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Fine and agreed. I will leave to @Ann O'Maly to create new questions if wished as this line starts with the post at 17:00 on 30/04/2016.

Just your opinion, to which you are of course entitled. Definition: 2. A person or organization that gives automatic approval or authorization to the decisions of others, without proper consideration: Not a Jehovahs's Witness view of baptism Not a Jehovahs's Witness view of dedication We've moved on since 1979, e.g WT 1/15/2010 p.4 par.4: "Christian dedication is a serious matter. It is more than a mere commitment" As I said, Witnesses do not view: baptism as a "rubber-stamp"; dedication as a "commitment"

For these, apparently so: 2Pet.3:15-16. "our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction" Why not? It's of more interest than watching soap operas right? As for the necessity for human detritus to corroborate God's word of truth .....not required. Compare 2Thess. 2:13 "..when you received God’s word, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but, just as it truthfully is, as the word of God.." So, are you saying that without artifacts to corroborate, the Bible is not true?

Ecclesiastes 12:13 - The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man.

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Is this discussion saying that Jesus was convicted for breaking the Mosaic Law on blasphemy by telling the truth about himself?

I'm not playing Ann O'Maly. Your meaning is not clear and my response depends on which is true. The context includes "Any reasoning based on this view would not reflect matters as Jehovah's Witnesses see things. It may, however, reflect matters as non-Witnesses or ex-Witnesses would see things." e.g. Witnesses do not view: baptism as a "rubber-stamp"; dedication as a "commitment" Those who are not dedicated Jehovah's Witnesses often use these descriptions.

Wrong! Bible truth does not depend on the corroboration of decaying artifacts. Faith in Aesop's Fables will not lead to everlasting life. Not me! 2Pet.3:15-16. "our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction" So there's fallacy in them there arguments!

The life of the JW organisation or the life of the witness? Yes, I see it clearly. Its not right for a family to avoid their daughter because she doesn't shop in Walmart. Mind you, I don't shop in Walmart either, but that's by choice. Where do I stand with that family? I see you quoted me out of context on the subject of baptism. May I ask are you speaking as an ex-Witness or a non-Witness?

This is not an assessment that one of Jehovah's Witnesses would make. Any reasoning based on this view would not reflect matters as Jehovah's Witnesses see things. It may, however, reflect matters as non-Witnesses or ex-Witnesses would see things.

No. Of course they haven't. BUT the scenario you paint is too trivial to illustrate the point you are hoping to make.

Heb.11:1 "Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen." Heb.6:18 "two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie," What do you base yours on? More like the gallows.

Jonah did not make a false prophecy You are just making presumptuous and unfounded statements as you do not know what I choose to ignore or take note of. Why not stick to facts, such as the interesting list of WT quotes you provided? I gather it is not your own research, but nevertheless it is useful. Unfortunately (for me that is), the filtered and irrelevant jibes and accusations you also include in your posts make the extraction of useful information a rather tedious exercise. A forum such as this of course allows for freedom of expression, but why not take a leaf from @Jay Witness? The posts there, while challenging, are heavy on fact, economical on personal opinion. Better still, why not use more closely the methods of the one your name tag would seek to defend?

Wow!!!!! Where do you live????? Luke 21:1-4

https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbam_201410_1_VIDEO Its about 2 hours 8 mins in.

In the verse at John 5:23, in responding to the Jews at that time (v19), Jesus showed that the honor which the Jews were accustomed to give to Jehovah as their Judge, they would now have to give equally to Jesus as well. This was because Jehovah would be transferring the executive role of Judge to His Son, Jesus. (Acts 17:31). Of course, in delegating authority for judging to Jesus, Jehovah in no way relinquishes His position as Supreme Lawgiver and Judge. He is that eternally by His very nature as Creator and God. That is why those Jews would need to continue honoring the Father and would now additionally have to honor the Son as they had formerly honored the Father alone. As Jehovah has "set a day to judge the entire inhabited earth", this requirement for honor to be given to both Jehovah and Jesus is incumbent on all of mankind who wish to gain a favourable judgement in line with the principle stated at 1Sam 2:30: "those honoring me I will honor". Honoring Jehovah necessitates the honoring of His Son and vice versa. John 5:23. "so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him"

I included these words because recognizing Jehovah's work in creating His only-begotten son is included in the reasons for assigning Him honor.

@Shiwiii Apologies for this comment. For some reason, I was getting multiple copies of 3 of your comments every time I posted to this thread. I have traced this to a browser issue which I have corrected now. So I am not subject to what appeared to be an automated response.

Sorry about that (late night typos) Pihillipians 2:6; John 8:49

No...I think I'm dealing with an Internet bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks (scripts) over the Internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human alone.

I like Jonah too. Jonah 3:4. "Then Jonah entered the city, and walking a day's journey, he was proclaiming, "In just 40 days more , Nineveh will be overthrown." Sorry about "the satanic NWT", but I think the others say similar.

I like Jonah too. Jonah 3:4. "Then Jonah entered the city, and walking a day's journey, he was proclaiming, "In just 40 days more , Nineveh will be overthrown." Sorry about "the satanic NWT", but I think the others say similar.

Right away Sir! Matt 28:18 (Jesus) Job 34:13 (Jehovah) New International Version Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Who appointed him over the earth? Who put him in charge of the whole world? New Living Translation Jesus came and told his disciples, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Who put him in charge of the earth? Who appointed him to be over the whole world? English Standard Version And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Who gave him charge over the earth, and who laid on him the whole world? New American Standard Bible And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. "Who gave Him authority over the earth? And who has laid on Him the whole world? King James Bible And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Who hath given him a charge over the earth? or who hath disposed the whole world? Holman Christian Standard Bible Then Jesus came near and said to them, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Who gave Him authority over the earth? Who put Him in charge of the entire world? International Standard Version Then Jesus approached them and told them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Who entrusted the earth to him? Who made him responsible for the entire inhabited world? NET Bible Then Jesus came up and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Who entrusted to him the earth? And who put him over the whole world? New American Standard 1977 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. “Who gave Him authority over the earth? And who has laid on Him the whole world? King James 2000 Bible And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Who has given him charge over the earth? or who has laid on him the whole world? American King James Version And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. Who has given him a charge over the earth? or who has disposed the whole world? American Standard Version And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Who gave him a charge over the earth? Or who hath disposed the whole world? Douay-Rheims Bible And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. What other hath he appointed over the earth? or whom hath he set over the world which he made? Darby Bible Translation And Jesus coming up spoke to them, saying, All power has been given me in heaven and upon earth. Who hath entrusted to him the earth? and who hath disposed the whole world? English Revised Version And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Who gave him a charge over the earth? or who hath disposed the whole world? Webster's Bible Translation And Jesus came, and spoke to them, saying, All power is given to me in heaven and upon earth. Who hath given him a charge over the earth? or who hath disposed the whole world? World English Bible Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Who put him in charge of the earth? or who has appointed him over the whole world? Young's Literal Translation And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth; Who hath inspected for Himself the earth? And who hath placed all the habitable world?

Moses is credited with the writing of Genesis by both the Jews as well as Christians. What information do you have that I can review that credits others with this writing. This seems to be following the pattern of Acts 23:7. So, in the famous words of Peter Jones, "for that reason, I'm out!"

Gospel according to Shiwiii? Well, it seems it just comes down, once again, to opinion. I'm actually disappointed by this.