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Go to our jw.org  Broadcasting,  they're now already there.  Maybe you must scroll little down.  Enjoy !  Agape 

@Queen Esther Greetings from England Could you tell me where I can listen to those 4 talks from anointed bros about End times? You mentioned on Puerto Rica post 
Thanks Agape 

We shall see,  if that day will going compliant with Jehovah's plan of our worldwide peace and security,  @Julie Bayley  maybe its working perfect with our ENDTIME...  We shall see, okay?  Greetings from Germany 

But before,  we will see still some other  SIGNS....  example,  PEACE & SECURITY !

“Many people shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, To the house of the God of Jacob;
He will teach us HIS WAYS, And WE Shall walk in his paths.” For out of Zion shall go forth the LAW,
 
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.”  Isa 2:3
 
I TYPE IN UPPER TO SHOW MY COMMENTS EASILY..
THIS QUOTE OF ISA 2v3 SHOWS 2 THINGS IN ITS USE, THE VERSE IS SAYING THAT LAW GOES FORTH AND TEACHINGS OF TRUTH ABOUT THE WAYS OF GOD SO THOSE WHO ARE TRUE SERVANTS CAN WALK IN HIS (JEHOVAHS) WAYS...
THAT MEANS THAT CHRISTMAS, EASTER, BIRTHDAYS, TRINITY, HELLFIRE, END OF THE WORLD, RAPTURE, CROSS, UNIVERSAL SALVATION etc etc etc ARE ALL BARRIERS TO "HIS WAYS" AND "ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE" OF GOD AND HIS SON...CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?
ISA IS REFERING TO KNOWING TRUTH NOT FALSEHOOD, AND PRACTICING TRUTH.
 
ALL OF CHRISTENDOM PRACTICE THE FALSEHOOD AND THE WITNESSES PRACTICE THE TRUTH IN THAT THEY REJECT THOSE IDEAS ABOVE.
NOT KNOWING THE EXACT IDENTITY OF GOG OF MAGOG (AND THE JWs MAY BE CORRECT ON THIS ANYWAY) IS NOT REQUIRED TO WALK IN HIS LAWS, AS GOG IS NOT A LAW THAT AIDS SALVATION.

How can anyone truly know the identity before hand....we can guess...but that's all...no religion has the absolute truth on the identity until after the event...then you will know who was right or not...however salvation is not gained by knowing the identity...and being wrong is not poison...observing Christmas...birthdays..and other pagan religious based false ideas is poison..because you know they 're wrong and still do them...i bet you swallow that poison down all the time..but an educated guess with the data you have on the identity of gog is not life saving.
Now your trinity...thats poison.
Hellfire thats poison.Christmas...poison
Jesus is God...thats poison
 
Earth to be destroyed...thats poison.
 
They are things that detract from the worship of God .....in truth....Gog does not.
 
What's the point in Christendom knowing Gogs identity...when they dont know Gods.

So if you have more than the first century Christians congregation what are you complaining about maybe not believe in the Trinity, War, Hellfire... where everyone goes to heaven or the Rapture or the Holy Spirit is a person or believing in the real meaning of Armageddon or the understanding of the Resurrection maybe all of this is not enough for you.
The meaning of Gog of magog is irrelevant it doesn't matter if it changes it doesn't affect your faith it doesn't affect your ability to preach the good news of the kingdom a doctrine which is not taught by christendom and makes the Jehovah's Witnesses the only organisation on planet earth that teaches the accurate rendering of the kingdom of the heavens with all of these minor changes like gog  why are you so upset over it who cares they just details in a bigger picture so a few pieces of the puzzle are missing but the main picture is complete as I've said before if you don't like it leave but my guess is that you won't do that because you feel that you've invested so much you don't want to throw it all away you are limping on two opinions.... now where have I heard that before.. this kind of thinking or more accurately your kind of thinking is the same reason why people abandoned Christ and abandoned Israel and Moses and all the others back in history it's the same reason that cain murdered his brother I hope that you don't do the same to all of yours.

Might I suggest then that if you don't care, instead of pretending to serve God and Christ and rather getting more and more bitter and upset and  despite the fact that without the Watchtower Society you wouldn't have a belief in God,  you wouldn't have had a faith, you wouldn't be aware of anything that is happening around you and the meaning to it (providing that's what you still believe) I think that the best bet for you is rather than continue bitter and angry and live out the remaining rest of your days in such a mind set.....that you do one of two things....
you come to terms with the fact that no human on Earth and no organisation on this planet knows exactly what God wants but the Witnesses are searching where as the others are christendom... and the fact that the others are christendom is enough to put anyone off who knows the Bible... and therefore with no other alternative you man up stop complaining and focus on the positive things that the Watchtower Society has done instead of the constant negative things that you can twist to give a poor view of, if you look closely and hard enough....or
You simply leave go join another religion to satisfy your spiritual needs while you sit in your arm chair and criticise the Jehovah's Witnesses online like a good keyboard warrior.
 
But I think this applies to People Like You and others who read this if this organisation is from God despite its faults and flaws then you will find yourself actually Fighters against God on the other hand if it's not from God then it will come to nothing along with christendom as It All eventually falls apart as it obviously will one day...look around at the world.. make it yours...or leave.... it's up to you.
 
 

Google translate:
The Christian Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses
April 1, 2017
TO ALL MEETINGS
Theme: Using the Synodal Translation of the Bible in New Conditions
Dear brothers!
From the bottom of our hearts, we want to thank you for your active participation in the campaign to write letters. Your participation in this campaign was a clear testimony of brotherly love in action (1 Peter 2:17). At the same time, we realize that the most important thing that we can do to support our brothers facing persecutions is to offer our prayers to Jehovah for them.(Read 1 Timothy 2: 1--4.)
As already reported, the Ministry of Justice wants to impose a ban on the activities of the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia. If the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation decides to ban, this will negatively affect more than 175,000 of our brothers and sisters, on their honorable duty to carry God's words from door to door.
Perhaps opponents think in this way to hinder the preaching work, but our main tool is the Bible, and we can participate even more diligently in the preaching work (1 Corinthians 15:58, Ephesians 6:17). Although the translation of the New World has helped us for many years to better understand the truth and carry the message of the Kingdom of God to other people, but in the new conditions that have arisen in Russia, we must start using the synodal translation of the Bible again.
This is necessary to avoid accusations of distortion of God's word from the world of Satan and discourage our opponents until the verdict of the Supreme Court.
Your brothers,
A copy of the district overseers
Note for coordinators of councils of elders.
Please ensure that this letter is read at the next meeting on weekdays, and also at a weekend meeting. Do not post this

If you watch the video by David splane it explains it very clearly I don't see the problem no need for hand puppets no supposedly complex calculations there is nothing complex about it... it's simple example of a generation from the bibles record makes it easier to understand I suggest you watch it again if you have a problem with the concept

"The armies in heaven were following him on white horses."—Rev. 19:14. - 
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This name is directly associated with “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” The term applies specifically to the condition, or situation, to which “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” are gathered in opposition to Jehovah and his Kingdom by Jesus Christ. In a number of versions it is rendered “Armageddon.” (Re 16:14, 16, AT; KJ; JB; RS; TEV) 
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The Revelation account depicts the combined forces of the kings of the earth as being gathered “to the place [Gr., form of to?pos] that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.” (Re 16:16) In the Bible to?pos may refer to a literal location (Mt 14:13,15, 35); to one’s opportunity, or “chance” (Ac 25:16); or to a figurative realm, condition, or situation (Re 12:6, 14). In view of the context, it is to a “place” in the last-mentioned sense that earth’s combined military powers are marching.
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“The war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon was not some past event but is depicted in Revelation as future from the time of John’s vision. The gathering of the kings to Har–Magedon is described as being a result of the pouring out of the sixth of the seven bowls containing the “last” plagues that will bring to a finish the anger of God. (Re 15:1; 16:1, 12) Also, indicating that the war at Har–Magedon is closely associated with Christ’s presence is the warning of his coming as a thief, which is placed between verses 14 and 16 of Revelation chapter 16.
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The global aspect of the war is emphasized in the context. There the opponents of Jehovah are identified as “the kings of the entire inhabited earth,” who are mobilized by “expressions inspired by demons.”—Re 16:14.
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Farther on, John says: “And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army.” (Re 19:19) This chapter identifies the leader of the heavenly armies, seated on a white horse, as one who is called “Faithful and True” and “The Word of God.” (Re 19:11-13) 
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Therefore, it is Jesus Christ, The Word, who acts as the commander of God’s heavenly armies. (Joh 1:1; Re 3:14) Further showing that Christ leads the heavenly forces is the statement that the earthly forces “battle with the Lamb [who is Jesus Christ (Joh 1:29)], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him will do so.”—Re 17:13, 14.
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Since the vision in Revelation chapter 19reveals only armies in heaven as participating in the warfare as supporters of Jesus Christ, The Word of God, it indicates that none of Jehovah’s Christian servants on earth will participate in the fighting. This is in harmony with the words of Jesus Christ at Matthew 26:52 that his disciples not resort to weapons of physical warfare. (Compare Ex 14:13, 14; 2Ch 20:15, 17,22, 23; Ps 2:4-9.) The birds that fly in midheaven will dispose of the bodies of those slaughtered.—Re 19:11-21.
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Har–Magedon  (Armageddon) is thus seen to be a fight, not merely among men, but one in which God’s invisible armies take part. Its coming is certain and it will take place at the time set by Jehovah God, who “is doing according to his own will among the army of the heavens and the inhabitants of the earth.”—Da 4:35; see also Mt 24:36.
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001884?q=rev+19%3A14&p=par#h=3

THAT  IS  SO  HEART - TOUCHING ?   SLEEPING  NEAR  JEHOVAH  AND  DREAMING  OF  A  BETTER  WORLD...

It makes more sense when explained with hand puppets!

Thats very interesting, dear  Brother @James Thomas Rook Jr.  thank you very much for your story of the past. The most of us making too much thoughts about all....   The Bible is not so complicated. Jehovah let it write for all humans with a good heart and a deep understanding, I think so.  Of course we must study alot time to understand all  Greetings from Camping in Germany....

Looking at those charts, graphs and formulas ... they made no sense to me WHATSOEVER, and I made my living doing math for about 40 years, but not this complicated. ( I could have done better if wearing open-toed sandals..).
While we were out in Service, I asked the smartest brother (seriously) at the Kingdom Hall I go to,  if he could explain the new and improved "this generation..." to me.
He was thoughtful for  several moments, and said: "I think they are trying to do the best they can...".
I thought about showing this post to my wife, Susan, who is a high school math teacher, to see if she could decipher them ... but I suspect her reply would be similar to Albert Einstein's reply when asked if he understood the U.S. Internal Revenue Service Tax Code ... " I am a mathematician .. NOT a philosopher".
By the way .... I have included a Feynman Diagram  that stumped Sheldon Cooper on the Season 1, episode 13 of the TV comedy "The Big Bang Theory", which is a LOT EASIER TO FIGURE OUT.  The answer is reported to be " minus 8 pi alpha" .
You can see almost instantly see they they misinterpreted some of the variables.
( For those in Rio Linda, That was a JOKE! )
UPDATE:  Susan just walked in and saw the "equation" and got upset and said it was all "Mush".
That reminded me of the famous "Drake Equation" ( go ahead.. look it up.. it's worth the effort )  that will accurately predict how many intelligent civilizations currently exist in the Milky Way Galaxy, or the Universe.
IF ( if! ) you plug into the equation the correct set of values.
That is the same problem that exists with EVERYTHING previous to this post.
Since there is no evidence ANYONE has the correct values ... to either philosophy .. and that is what they are ... philosophy ... it's all a wild-assed guess (WAG). 
No more.
MUSH

Ceci m' a été envoyé dans un email par un frère d'Allemagne. Quelqu'un a-t-il essayé de saisir des dates différentes pour voir les résultats? Est-ce une représentation juste de ce que David Splane a expliqué? 
Il est maintenant littéralement possible d'expliquer la longueur potentielle de la "génération qui se chevauche" avec une formule comme la suivante où X' et X" représentent deux groupes différents (chevauchement) de personnes ointes.
Génération(X′+X″) <= 1914+λ[A′]-α[A′]+λ[A″]-α[A″]-x

Cette formule est applicable lorsque A' et A" sont des symboles se référant à des personnes ointes qualifiées pour être dans le groupe un et deux, respectivement. λ[A′] (lambda de A′) se réfère à la durée de vie de la personne dans le premier groupe, et  α[A′] (alpha of A′) se réfère à l'âge auquel A' aurait été oint. Une personne qui se qualifie pour l'inclusion dans le deuxième groupe (A"), doit non seulement naître, mais doit déjà être ointe, dans l'année ou avant la mort d' A'. Il faut aussi tenir compte des deux facteurs limitatifs suivants: premièrement, la durée maximale d'une durée de vie (λ) est habituellement comprise entre 99 et 119 ans. Deuxièmement, l'âge minimum auquel on peut être considéré comme oint (α), se situe dans une fourchette de 10 à 20 ans. Et, enfin, nous devons soustraire x, le nombre d'années complètes que la durée de vie d' A' a chevauché avec celle d' A". Si A" est né la même année que A', ce x = 0.
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David Splane explains the overlapping generation again via JW Broadcasting September 2015 
The cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that Fred Franz died. Therefore now is not the time to become weary - the end is right around the corner.
sources below:
We understand that in mentioning “this generation,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians. The first group was on hand in 1914, and they readily discerned the sign of Christ’s presence in that year. Those who made up this group were not merely alive in 1914, but they were spirit-anointed as sons of God in or before that year.
w14 1/15 p. 31 par. 15
16 The second group included in “this generation” are anointed contemporaries of the first group. They were not simply alive during the lifetime of those in the first group, but they were anointed with holy spirit during the time that those of the first group were still on earth. Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. Today, those in this second group are themselves advancing in years.
w14 1/15 p. 31 par. 16
See previous explanations on the page for Matthew 24.  ( @JW Insider)
Here is a more detailed chart

Overlapping Generation Mathematical Formula
This was sent to me in an email by a brother from Germany. Has anyone tried plugging in different dates to see the results? Is it a fair representation of what David Splane explained? 
It is now literally possible to explain the potential length of the “overlapping generation” with a formula like the following one where X? and X? represent two different (overlapping) groups of anointed persons.
Generation (X?+X?) <= 1914+?[A?]-?[A?]+?[A?]-?[A?]-x
This formula is applicable where A? and A? are symbols referring to anointed persons qualified to be in group one and two, respectively. ?[A?] (lambda of A?) refers to the lifespan of the person in the first group, and ?[A?] (alpha of A?) refers to the age at which A? is said to have been anointed. A person qualifying for inclusion in the second group (A?), must not only be born, but must already be anointed, in or before the year A? dies. We must also consider the following two limiting factors: First, the maximum length of a lifespan (?) usually put in a range from 99 to 119 years. Second, the minimum age at which one may be considered to be anointed (?), put in a range from 10 to 20 years. And, finally, we must subtract x, the number of full years that the lifespan of A? overlapped with A?. If A? happened to be born in the same year that A? died, then this x=0.
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According to news sources in Luanda, Angola (read it here, although it's in Portuguese language), a regional convention of the JW's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital Luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.

More than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place. Reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of UNITA, the main political party that opposed MPLA, the dominant regime party in Angola since its independence in 1975. 43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance. No deaths were reported.
The attack seems to be a retaliation for the fact that JW's do not vote - and Angola just underwent presidential elections during last week. 3 perpetrators were seized by the police while trying to change clothes at the convention hall, and 2 more are being hunted down.

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Posted samedi at 22:07

According to news sources in Luanda, Angola (read it here, although it's in Portuguese language), a regional convention of the JW's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital Luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.

More than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place. Reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of UNITA, the main political party that opposed MPLA, the dominant regime party in Angola since its independence in 1975. 43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance. No deaths were reported.
The attack seems to be a retaliation for the fact that JW's do not vote - and Angola just underwent presidential elections during last week. 3 perpetrators were seized by the police while trying to change clothes at the convention hall, and 2 more are being hunted down.

If I see anything at all related to the attack I will post it here:
 

Si il titolo e sbagliato in quanto sono state i testimoni di Geova a essere vittime ,di questa tragedia,

Ce numéro contient les articles d’étude pour la période du 29 janvier au 25 février 2018.
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Étudiants et enseignants ont été impressionnés par les bibles, les publications bibliques et les vidéos exposées au Salon du livre Gaudeamus en Roumanie.
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