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    Witness got a reaction from Dooyaateehda Ajigaleidii in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    I keep seeing "Witness" pop up in your recent posts.  You missed me, didn't you!  Either that, or I am still an irritating burr in your saddle.  
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in ....and like Forest Gump said "... and that's all I am going to say about that."   
    I will truly miss you, James.  
    Psalm 26
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    Witness got a reaction from Dooyaateehda Ajigaleidii in ....and like Forest Gump said "... and that's all I am going to say about that."   
    I will truly miss you, James.  
    Psalm 26
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in WILLIAM MALENFANT, "BECOME ONE FLOCK"   
    Your comment reminds me of Satan’s ability to create counterfeits on all levels, the opposite side of truth.
    The Beast from the Sea (Rev 13:1) is a counterfeit of Mount Zion, a “mountainlike organization” with a counterfeit priesthood.  Its “seven” symbolic heads is the antithesis of the “seven stars” in Jesus’ right hand. (Rev 1:20; 5:6)  The Beast’s seven heads are a succession of  “kings” – false prophets that rule over the Wild Beast (Rev 17:9,10).  (The “ten horns/kings” of the Beast are part of the composite “eighth king” to arise, once the ‘guiding’ false prophet  (Rev 13:11) is removed.  Rev 17:12-18)
    Even the “head wound” of the Beast has a counterfeit display. (Rev 13:3) Rutherford, one of the heads of the organization, is said to suffer this death stroke fulfilling the prophesy of the “two witnesses” of Rev 11:3,7,11,12. Research shows up his cowardliness and the real reason he was temporarily was imprisoned. 
    A “body” of elders submit to the last symbolic “king”/head of the Beast, a composite false prophet/false christ (Matt 24:24)  that approves of this “body” judging and “killing” Christ’s anointed members of his body. (Rev 13:5-7,15) The silencing of the anointed has come on strong over the last years of the organization’s existence.  When I heard that S. Herd stated all JWs are part of the “temple”, this tells me that the Beast from the Earth/harlot/false prophet, and the last ruling symbolic “king” guiding the Wild Beast from the Sea, has well established its counterfeit “mountain” with “Gentile” “stones”.  God’s “living stones” of “Israel” must either conform and mold themselves to the Beast, or they are disfellowshipped.  (Rev 13:15)
    The Beast/mountain, comprised of primarily the elder body is “spirit-breathed”, spirit-directed, giving it an "image" that must be revered. (Rev 13:15,4)
     The authentic Temple/Zion is built with inspired “living stones”, the “stars”/kings belonging Christ. 
    Satan uses the world to create a counterfeit physical display of the events Jesus spoke of in Matt 24 concerning the last days. Counterfeits upon counterfeits, layers upon layers of deception.  His ability to deceive is not on human level, making it impossible to perceive without the help of Christ.  Matt 7:7
     
    Zech 4:1-14; Rev 11:3,4; Zech 4:7; Rev 8:9
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from JW Insider in ....and like Forest Gump said "... and that's all I am going to say about that."   
    I will truly miss you, James.  
    Psalm 26
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in WILLIAM MALENFANT, "BECOME ONE FLOCK"   
    It is interesting to notice how WTJWorg Managers took bible terminology for Holy Spirit, that is "Helper", and transfer it to Humans who replaced HS and became Helpers for one part of "anointed" aka GB. When GB claim how not even they and no one else in JW chuch is "inspired" by HS, it is understandable why they need another sort of helping from "Helpers" who also have nothing with HS.
    After he received HS, with gift or gifts that is/are unknown to us because Bible not spoke about that, we also have no report did Cornelius became elder, missioner, member of Jerusalem Body, or member of some Christian "Branch Office" in other part of the world, left service in Roman army ... etc, etc.
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Joseph the Dreamer   
    If you seek her as silver,
    And search for her as for hidden treasures;
    5 Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
    And find the knowledge of God.
    6 For the Lord gives wisdom;
    From His mouth come knowledge and understanding  Prov 2:4-6
    To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”  John 8:31
     If the record of teachings is reliably wrong for 100 years, as WT’s leaders have proven, it is not the case of accidental “not being honest”, but pure dishonesty with an ulterior motive. My opinion, of course. (Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Rev 16:13,14)
     
     “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
    “‘a man against his father,
        a daughter against her mother,
    a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
    36     a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
    37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.  Matt 10:34-39
    ~~~
    "Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.  Col 2:20-22   (Isa 28:7-15)
    ~~~
    "You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! 20 In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or puts on airs or slaps you in the face."  2 Cor 11:19,20
    ~~~
    "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ." Col 2:8
    ~~~
    "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved."  2 Thess 2:9,10
    Truth and understanding, especially during the last days, is not withheld from any of us, if we truly desire it.
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Joseph the Dreamer   
    This view is based on "organization", not on scripture.  If perhaps we, as an individual disagree with a teaching, knowing God's Word proves that it is inaccurate, it is our duty to speak up for what is true.  But, perhaps you are thinking it is something to be brought up in the back room, out of ear shot of the congregation.  I am not saying we should be disrespectful as some ex JWs have proven themselves to be, in a "congregational" setting, but Jesus brought lies to the fore in front of everyone.  He wasn't selective ,or afraid to speak truth.   
    We defend God's Word in Christ, even if it means we are labeled apostate.  Isn't that what JWs teach their members to do in the "world"?  Why would it stop once stepping into a "worldly" organization?
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in WILLIAM MALENFANT, "BECOME ONE FLOCK"   
    One of the GB “helpers” presented a video about curbing one’s curiosity concerning the anointed in the organization.   He is a confident speaker, delivering his information in a powerful, convincing manner.   Resulting from it, was a comment made by @Srecko Sostar, a member on this forum:
    “It seems how WT Society have only one group of "anointed generation", and that is present GB. In his morning worship talk Mr. Malenfant explained this:
    ‘we don't need to know all names of the anointed on earth today, ....
    ... in our congregations we see the emblems being passed and we can see individuals partaking in ...
    ...it would be pointless to try and ascertain who among God's servants will eventually be part of 144000. The final judgement and sealing of the anointed is a very private matter between JHVH and individual anointed ones......
    .. and i might also add at this point. Even though we don't know about that personal relationship that comes about, we don't experience it ourselves, but we are convinced, for example, that the members of the GB have the heavenly calling." 
    Mr Malenfant is person who can control his curiosity about things no one knows, not even he, but it seems how he knows all about that personal relationship and very private matter  that supposedly exist between GB members and JHVH.
    and he try to manipulate audience with this ‘confidential information’.”
     
    Included is my response with additional comments -
    It appears to be “pointless” to find out just who are Christ’s “ambassadors”, (2 Cor 5:20; 1 Cor 4:1) since the only names one needs to know (according to this elder) are those of the GB.  And, since it is a “very private matter”, what JW would dare talk to one of these other ambassadors? Rejecting the ambassadors/members of Christ’s body, is a rejection of Christ, since the very idea of an ambassador is someone who represents another. Yet, only a selective few of these ambassadors are apparently needed. (Luke 16:2,10-12)
    But, it’s been this way for a long while, since a “wicked slave” and its spiritually “drunk” elder body have worked together to beat down the anointed Body of Christ, while exalting themselves. On the other hand, everyone in every congregation, knows exactly who the elders are and what their role is, who work closely with those “elite” anointed.  (Matt 24:48-51; Luke 22:24-27; 2 Cor 11:4-6) 
    The elder specifically states that Jesus is our leader and we must follow only him, by citing Matt 23:10. This scripture was spoken by Jesus to those new members of his body, meaning that his “body” has one “Master”/teacher over its members; but these individual members are given various gifts, which includes teaching.  As priestly “stewards” of truth, teaching would be woven within each selective gift an anointed would receive.  (1 Cor 12:7-14; Eph 4:11,12)
    “But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.” Matt 23:8
     However, following only Christ results in disfellowshipping, since the pseudo headship of the GB is rejected. (Mark 13:21,22; Acts 20:29-31; Matt 10:16-20; John 16:2; Rev 11:3,7; 13:11,12,15)
    The anointed have allowed the GB/elders to cut them off from their Head and Master, Jesus Christ. (Rom 6:16)
    “They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.”  Col 2:19
     “For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.”  Rom 12:4,5
     “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good… so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. “  1 Cor 12:7,25
    The elder stated that no one needs to “know all names of the anointed on earth today.”
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.”  Matt 7:15-20
    The Greek word here interpreted as “know” means,
    recognize; by implication, to become fully acquainted with, to acknowledge, perceive.
    It is imperative for each of us to “know”, who the anointed are during our lifetime, and what these “trees” teach.  We are to recognize their fruits as either good or bad – good from Jesus Christ; bad from the Father of the lie.  (John 8:44; Luke 6:45)
     “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 41 Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.”   Matt 10:40-42
    We cannot “welcome” any anointed disciple of Christ, if we are told to avoid these priests who are to teach Christ’s truth. (Mal 2:7) This includes the ability to markedly distinguish them from others, by the fruit they produce.  
    When I was a JW, I thought that by providing, as an example from my personal experience, a place for an anointed one and his family to live, I was giving them a “cup of cold water”.  Jesus is the source of “living water”. (John 7:37,38; John 4:10) Those who remain “in Christ” will have that same “living water” flowing from their heart. In turn, anyone who “receives” these teachers producing “good fruit”, give back that living water that flows from their own heart as well; resulting from their recognition of teachings produced in harmony with Christ’s truths. (John 13:20)
    The fruit they produce, signifies their “daily, regular sacrifices”/”constant feature” offered before God.  (1 Pet 2:5; Heb 13:15; Rom 12:1; Rev 7:15)
    Mouthing allegedly “righteous” words, this is another “helper” in the cause to eradicate a spiritual nation, by “trampling” the anointed priests/Temple “stones” in the organization. His words support the termination of each anointed one's sacrifices to be made before God.  (Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Dan 12:11; 2 Thess 2:4) 
    He has chosen to join forces with a demonic dual power in eradicating Truth and the works of Christ’s ambassadors. (Rev 12:7; Eph 6:12; 5:11; 2 Cor 10:3-5; Rev 9:1-4;16:13-16; 20) 
    "His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the regular sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.”  Dan 11:31
    To support the doctrine that “one flock” referred to in the organization includes everyone – anointed and those not anointed -  he states that no one would attempt to “make a name for themselves to seek personal glory”.  Thus, JWs would not seek out the names of God’s priests to “follow them”.
    “That’s not what we do”, he says.
    And, he’s right.  Although we do not follow the individual, God’s faithful priests are sought out as the source of living water of God’s word.  (Lev 10:11; Matt 18:10;5:14-16; 1 Pet 2:9; Heb 8:10)
    Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth.
    In the traditional contradictory fashion by the organization's leaders, this man has personally “made a name” for himself as a vital helper of the GB.  He is one of many, whose names can be rattled off the tongue of any JW faithful to the organizational arrangement; and it is imperative that a JW ‘follows the direction’ – ‘seeks instruction’-  from not only  the GB, but the body of elders also.   ( Luke 22:25,26) Yet the remaining messengers or ambassadors of Christ are cut off from everyone, including each other. (Isa 51:7,8; 2 Thess 2:4)
    He stressed the “one flock” teaching which supports the organization’s unity among all.  On the surface, this seems acceptable as the meaning of John 10:16, but further evidence refutes this doctrine.
    John 10:16 - “I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.”
    Jesus was establishing the spiritual Temple of God that was to replace the physical Temple, and its way of worship. (2 Chron 6:9; Acts 7:47-50; John 2:19-21; 4:21-24; Acts 17:24; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22)   
    While on earth, the “little flock” of his sheep pen, were the members of his body and foundation of the Temple, chosen from the Jewish nation. (Matt 15:24) They were the first to receive salvation from God, and to serve under their High Priest, Jesus Christ. (Rom 1:16)
    Because of the rejection of Jesus by the majority of Israel, God has been selecting people from all physical nations for the last 2,000 years, called to be His chosen and faithful priests. (Rev 1:5;5:9,10;17:14)
    It had its beginnings through Paul and Peter. (Acts 13:46)  Peter experienced the vision of the sheet coming from heaven, containing all sorts of creatures considered unclean to eat.  God told him, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” (Acts 11:9)  Shortly afterward, Cornelius, the “uncircumcised“  Roman Centurion, and those with him, received the anointing of Holy Spirit. (Acts 10:44,45) Consequently, these “other sheep” and more who followed, were brought into Christ’s sheep pen which already held those chosen from the nation of Israel …”I must bring them in also”.  The boundary demarcation of fleshly circumcision no longer mattered, as the spiritually “circumcised” came to cross all national borders.  (Gal 3:28,29; Eph 3:6)
    “So, then, remember that at one time you were Gentiles in the flesh—called “the uncircumcised” by those called “the circumcised,” which is done in the flesh by human hands. 12 At that time you were without Christ, excluded from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who made both groups ONE and tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In his flesh, 15 he made of no effect the law consisting of commands and expressed in regulations, so that he might create in himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace.  
    For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So, then, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with the saints, and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit. Eph 2:11-15, 18-22
    As God’s messengers, the “living stones”, “trees” of His Temple will further fulfill Mal 2:7 and “teach” His children life-giving spiritual direction and sustenance from Jesus Christ.  (Rev 22:1-3)
    “I also saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband. 3 Then I heard a loud voice from the throne: Look, God’s dwelling is with humanity, and he will live with them. They will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them and will be their God.” Rev 21:2,3
     
    Please do not confuse spiritual Gentiles, with physical Gentiles.
    The "one flock", made up of the little flock of physical Jews; and the "other sheep" not of that "little" fold, who are physical Gentiles who become spiritual Jews, (Rom 2:28,29; Gal 3:28,29; Gal 3:28,29,26) are all anointed. That one flock of anointed, do not include those not anointed... just as the Bride, is not her children.
    Becoming anointed (and joining Christ's anointed flock/"Bride") is not the same event as becoming sons of God. 
    Anointed do become "firstborn" sons of God (James 1:18; Rom 8:23; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Pet 1:23; Rev 14:4,5; Eph 1:4; 2 Cor 11:2) 
    and non-anointed can become sons of God, through anointed spiritual parents... 
    Christ, the original one anointed by God's spirit, and the chosen priests/Christs to follow him, also anointed by God's spirit.
    That spirit gives life (John 6:63), not only to Christ and the anointed, but to all God's sons, through Christ and his bride.
    Non anointed prove their son-ship to God, by obeying and imitating their own spiritual parents, who already belong to God's spiritual family.  
    Pearl Doxsey, “One flock / ‘ Sheep’ and ‘Goats’ /  ‘firstborn’
    The “one flock” doctrine is manipulated by the complex matrix of decision making, which sustains not the Temple of God, but the temple idol; the Beast of Rev 13:1,2  Within it, are both the “circumcised” and “uncircumcised”, with spiritually “uncircumcised Gentiles” ruling over and replacing God’s priesthood of “circumcised Israel”. There is no distinction made “between the holy and unholy” – the holy Temple of God, and the idol/organization that blasphemes God’s dwelling.  (Ezek 22:26; 44:23; Rev 13:5-8) Just as I think the Beast’s “trampling” of God’s Temple has reached its high point, another lying pretense about the role of God’s priests, has emerged…from the mouth of the Beast.  (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)
     
    Each and every living stone inducted into the anointed Temple of God, must undergo grievous tribulation and refinement to be cleansed, previous to their seal (Mal 3:3; 1 Pet 5:10; Heb 12:5-11; Prov 3:11,12; 1 Cor 11:32; Rev 3:19)

    Not so the spiritual Gentile Elders comprising the Wild Beast. These counterfeit priests only need comply with Organizational arrangements, expectations, standards, and suggestions. The claim that these are only chosen based upon 1Tim.3 is just not the whole truth.
    The greatest requirement for priestly service is "spiritual qualifications" (Gal 6:1), which is not referring to the list at 1 Tim 3 as the WT professes. The original words for "spirit qualifications" is "those who are led by spirit/walk by spirit/live by spirit", and these are defined at Rom 8:14 (Rom 8:16,17) as those who will reign with Christ.

    "Elders" have been empowered to trample and expel God's genuine chosen priests with impunity...for now.
    In the meantime, to erect and empower a counterfeit Temple priesthood, claim it is filled with Holy Spirit and appointed by God, and then demand that all worship its Image, is a third sin against Holy Spirit. (Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Num 3:10; Rev 11:2; Mark 13:14)
    Pearl Doxsey – “What is the Worst Sin the WT Has Done?”
     
    "Go now, write it on a tablet for them,
        inscribe it on a scroll,
    that for the days to come
        it may be an everlasting witness.
    9 For these are rebellious people, deceitful children,
        children unwilling to listen to the Lord’s instruction.
    10 They say to the seers,
        “See no more visions!”
    and to the prophets,
        “Give us no more visions of what is right!
    Tell us pleasant things,
        prophesy illusions.
    11 Leave this way,
        get off this path,
    and stop confronting us
        with the Holy One of Israel!”
    12 Therefore this is what the Holy One of Israel says:
    “Because you have rejected this message,
        relied on oppression
        and depended on deceit,
    13 this sin will become for you
        like a high wall, cracked and bulging,
        that collapses suddenly, in an instant.
    15 This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel, says:
    “In repentance and rest is your salvation,
        in quietness and trust is your strength,
        but you would have none of it.
    18 Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you;
        therefore he will rise up to show you compassion.
    For the Lord is a God of justice.
        Blessed are all who wait for him!
    19 People of Zion, who live in Jerusalem, you will weep no more. How gracious he will be when you cry for help! As soon as he hears, he will answer you. 20 Although the Lord gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them. 21 Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.” 22 Then you will desecrate your idols overlaid with silver and your images covered with gold; you will throw them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, “Away with you!”  (Isa 30:8-22)
     
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
    The Steward’s Sacred Trust
    See, “Christ’s Return, When?” -
    Also, “Anointed Flock – The Truth” -
    See “Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place”
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Dooyaateehda Ajigaleidii in "SITTING IN THE BACK YARD ON THE TRASH PILE"   
    "If you look in the backyard of the Watchtower Society you will see a trashpile of teachings that were presented to every man woman and child on this earth as a teaching of God, the Almighty.  Those churches that were not teaching it, were not teaching the “truth”. 
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Joseph the Dreamer   
    You Americans are strange folks. I can almost understand why you so willingly accept the GB as being ok. Because you are all so off the rail you think it is natural. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Joseph the Dreamer   
    Yes, it is.  It's ingrained in a priest of God, by Holy Spirit.
    Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth."
    Isa 43:21 -  "The people I formed for myself will declare my praise.
    1 Pet 2:9 - "But you are a chosen race,* a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light."
    Heb 13:15 - "Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name."
    They "praise" God by speaking truth.  Yet truth, is recognized by the "fruit of the lips".  (Matt 7:15-20)
    Jer 23:21,22 - "I did not send these prophets,
        yet they have run with their message;
    I did not speak to them,
        yet they have prophesied.
    22 But if they had stood in my council,
        they would have proclaimed My words to My people
    and would have turned them from their evil ways
        and from their evil deeds."
    For those priests who do not act upon this assignment, who don't "make a fuss over it", they are not giving God due praise.  And, I don't mean as the GB expect them too, but as scripture dictates. 
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in I have barely seen a more stupid chart in my life   
    Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.  Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.  Matt 23:3,4
    Jesus is speaking of the law given to Moses, which was was to be observed.   He wasn't referring to the additions made by men - by the Pharisees. The "cumbersome loads" were these additional laws tacked on to the laws given to Moses by God.    
    Today, we follow the "law" in Christ - his teachings; not made up laws that the GB are so good at contriving, for the sake of "organization".   The GB do not sit in Moses' seat, although they try so hard to. Christ has fulfilled the law, with his reign superior to that of Moses.  
    Reading the entire 23rd chapter of Matthew gives a better view than concentrating on those two scriptures.  
    Mark 7:6-9  He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
    ‘This people honors Me with their lips,
    But their heart is far from Me.
    7 And in vain they worship Me,
    Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
    8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
     
    Traditions, necessary to run an organization.  
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    I keep seeing "Witness" pop up in your recent posts.  You missed me, didn't you!  Either that, or I am still an irritating burr in your saddle.  
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in I have barely seen a more stupid chart in my life   
    Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.  Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.  Matt 23:3,4
    Jesus is speaking of the law given to Moses, which was was to be observed.   He wasn't referring to the additions made by men - by the Pharisees. The "cumbersome loads" were these additional laws tacked on to the laws given to Moses by God.    
    Today, we follow the "law" in Christ - his teachings; not made up laws that the GB are so good at contriving, for the sake of "organization".   The GB do not sit in Moses' seat, although they try so hard to. Christ has fulfilled the law, with his reign superior to that of Moses.  
    Reading the entire 23rd chapter of Matthew gives a better view than concentrating on those two scriptures.  
    Mark 7:6-9  He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
    ‘This people honors Me with their lips,
    But their heart is far from Me.
    7 And in vain they worship Me,
    Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
    8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
     
    Traditions, necessary to run an organization.  
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I have barely seen a more stupid chart in my life   
    Well one of the things the GB through their 'management' told 'you' as a congregant, was to not report Child Sexual Abuse to the police or outside authorities. 
    And another thing it told congregation elders was not to name paedophiles in the congregations and not to tell the whole congregation that there was a paedophile amongst them. 
    And you agree with that in principle ?  Doesn't that makes you part of the problem ?
    I think to use that scripture as a generalisation is not so good.  
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    Witness got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in I have barely seen a more stupid chart in my life   
    From a "human standpoint", which is what I imagine you are referring to, would you say that the GB member, David Splane had a "sound mind" when concocting the latest chart of "this generation"? 
    Does it appear that A. Morris had a "sound mind" when visiting the liquor store? Or, when he spoke of people like charred hot dogs, in reference to the upcoming carnage at Armageddon?
    Did Stephen Lett have a sound mind when he stated that it was all apostate lies that the organization had a child abuse problem?  Or, that there was "more money going out than coming in" which was followed with great plans to build media centers?
    Did S. Herd have a sound mind when comparing the size of a woman's brain to that of a man as so much smaller, and how that limits her abilities?  
    Just some reminders.   
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Shiwiii in Aleksandr Ivshin   
    You might want to do a headcount of all who were 'let go' at Bethel, at a moment's notice.  Had they all "stopped serving jehovah"?  
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    Witness got a reaction from Shiwiii in Aleksandr Ivshin   
    It is a sad situation, and can be interprested as a very "extreme" move, which could remind one of Hitler camps.  
    But so does this situation: (translated from German).  It makes one wonder what party is more Hitler-like.  
    Dear Brothers.
    This is my [response] to the way you dismissed me of the Special pioneer service [effective the first of] January 2016. The [fitting] “loving words” cannot reduce my disappointment.
    As you mentioned, I experienced a lot of joy and went through a lot of challenges. I was willing to set the kingdom interests first and to [make] sacrifices to serve Jehovah, wherever you thought it is necessary.
    In the belief that the end is near and that the organization is [led] by Jehovah’s spirit, I started pioneering in my youth. I [turned down getting] a good education in the hope that the organization needs me. Jehovah is the best employer, as I was told.
    And now you decided that my special pioneer service will end [on the first of] January 2016. I ask myself what changed that you do not need my service anymore after nearly 30 years?
    I am astonished that you advise me to serve as an normal pioneer in the future. If the end is near, why is my service as [a special pioneer] not necessary anymore? Is it the money? Am I too expensive for the organization?
    Do you need the money, which is donated to support the preaching work for other activities? For example for building projects, like Warwick or temple farms? I really feel betrayed and exploited.
    It seems to be the case that some buildings projects are more important for the “slave” than humans, who try to help others. Your offer to release me from my duty to reach the monthly hours goal, that I can do necessary things like looking for a job or for living, is really generous. Until January you want to pay my allowance as usual.
    Really generous of you! To be honest it feels like a hit in my face or a kick in my ass.
    I have no financial back up in my age and no education. I can probably not expect any support from my family, as they warned me [about getting into special pioneering].
    As you mentioned, I did not expect this decision and I do not believe anymore that the Governing Body or the Branch Office are really valuing the work I did.
    Your encouragement to trust at Jehovah sounds like derision. As I thought Jehovah provides for his servants through his organization. You do not want to lose my service and my experience, but you do not want to spend a single dollar for it anymore.
    How else could I interpret this sentence? Quote: “In view of the valuable experience you have gained in your ministry, we hope your circumstances will allow you to engage in the regular pioneering”… “In that way, your full time service will not be interrupted. As a regular pioneer, you may choose the congregation in which you want to serve; however, we hope that, if possible, you can stay in your current assignment. If you move to another location, please talk to the circuit overseer or write to the Service Department to know where you might be more useful.”
    I truly understood now, what is important for Jehovah`s organization: the only things that are counting, are efficiency and the gain for the organization, not the people.
    Disappointed greetings.
    Your Brother
    (I do not want to tell you my name until I am not longer depending on you).
     
    https://jwsurvey.org/downsizing/betrayed-and-exploited-dismissed-special-pioneer-lashes-out-against-downsizing/comment-page-1
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Shiwiii in "Barking dogs" and JW's preaching service about The End   
    Stephen Lett:
    “Let’s discuss how the faithful and discreet slave has worked tirelessly to keep on the watch and really try to help us do the same. Let’s just talk about some of this documented evidence that this is certainly the case. Now it’s true the faithful slave at times have had wrong expectations THROUGHOUT THE DECADES.
    But then again we talked about earlier that was true of the apostles. In Acts chapter 1:8, “Lord are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time”?
    “See, that was the wrong expectation, wasn’t it.”
     
    There is no comparison of the apostles’ question to Jesus and how WT leaders have taught their followers.  The apostles were not preaching various dates throughout the decades; but as students under their Head Master, they listened, learned and were obedient to his direction. Lett is using deceit to smooth over decades of false prophesy.  He purposefully left out the next verse.
     He said to them: ‘It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.”
     Clear "documented evidence" shows pervasive lack of obedience to Christ's words, practiced throughout the lineage of WT's leaders.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "Barking dogs" and JW's preaching service about The End   
    Stephen Lett:
    “Let’s discuss how the faithful and discreet slave has worked tirelessly to keep on the watch and really try to help us do the same. Let’s just talk about some of this documented evidence that this is certainly the case. Now it’s true the faithful slave at times have had wrong expectations THROUGHOUT THE DECADES.
    But then again we talked about earlier that was true of the apostles. In Acts chapter 1:8, “Lord are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time”?
    “See, that was the wrong expectation, wasn’t it.”
     
    There is no comparison of the apostles’ question to Jesus and how WT leaders have taught their followers.  The apostles were not preaching various dates throughout the decades; but as students under their Head Master, they listened, learned and were obedient to his direction. Lett is using deceit to smooth over decades of false prophesy.  He purposefully left out the next verse.
     He said to them: ‘It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.”
     Clear "documented evidence" shows pervasive lack of obedience to Christ's words, practiced throughout the lineage of WT's leaders.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "Barking dogs" and JW's preaching service about The End   
    Stephen Lett:
    “Let’s discuss how the faithful and discreet slave has worked tirelessly to keep on the watch and really try to help us do the same. Let’s just talk about some of this documented evidence that this is certainly the case. Now it’s true the faithful slave at times have had wrong expectations THROUGHOUT THE DECADES.
    But then again we talked about earlier that was true of the apostles. In Acts chapter 1:8, “Lord are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time”?
    “See, that was the wrong expectation, wasn’t it.”
     
    There is no comparison of the apostles’ question to Jesus and how WT leaders have taught their followers.  The apostles were not preaching various dates throughout the decades; but as students under their Head Master, they listened, learned and were obedient to his direction. Lett is using deceit to smooth over decades of false prophesy.  He purposefully left out the next verse.
     He said to them: ‘It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.”
     Clear "documented evidence" shows pervasive lack of obedience to Christ's words, practiced throughout the lineage of WT's leaders.  
  23. Like
    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in "Barking dogs" and JW's preaching service about The End   
    Even the voice of S. Lett made me to visual his facial expressions ... it is impossible to erase picture of him giving the talk, ... must be some sort of OCD in my head :))))) 
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "SITTING IN THE BACK YARD ON THE TRASH PILE"   
    "If you look in the backyard of the Watchtower Society you will see a trashpile of teachings that were presented to every man woman and child on this earth as a teaching of God, the Almighty.  Those churches that were not teaching it, were not teaching the “truth”. 
     
     
  25. Haha
    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "Barking dogs" and JW's preaching service about The End   
    Like...a smoke alarm?
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