BroRando

9 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Actually, for me, it's nice to be out of 'Babylon the Great' before the 'end comes'. 

Notice, I did not call you a goat but rather a weed.  

42 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Back on topic. I received my letter (by hand) today, concerning my resignation from the JW Org. 

It confirms that I left the Org of my own free will, Quote 

"Your email of resignation of 28 December 2017"

"John Butler disassociated by resignation, Date of announcement 4 January 2018."

There it is. It's nice to have it in writing. 

 

 

It's nice to have the weeds removed and BEFORE 2034. 😃

51 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Oh dear, the same old record. Maybe it will be 2034, maybe it won't.

But what about the cutting the time short for the sake of the Elect / Chosen ones ? 

Do you know how much will be cut short ?  I don't think you do. 

On 12/14/2021 at 1:31 AM, BroRando said:

• The Body of Christ began to be collected on Pentecost 33 CE.
• Pentecost happened on 33 CE + 2000 yrs = 2033 CE the third day begins 2034. Not all anointed will be heavenly at this point but you can apply other scriptures during the Last Days of this Age as they come to their End:

In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly.

International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

Better times lay ahead of us, but not for everyone. “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” (Rev 7:3)

Notice that harm to the earth, sea, or trees are being withheld until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads. This is in reference to sealing of the 144,000 which are representatives of God’s temple, the Body of Christ, New Jerusalem, Christ’s Brothers, and even the Bride of Christ. All are one in the same. 

Once the total number of the 144,000 are sealed, then a colossal of other prophecies begin to become fulfilled. “I will make my holy name known among my people Israel, and I will not allow my holy name to be profaned any longer; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah, the Holy One in Israel.” (Ezekiel 39:7) 

Time left is reduced and turning back will no longer be a recourse once the 144,000 are sealed.

The sealing of the 144,000 is at hand...

"Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the undeserved kindness meant for you made a diligent inquiry and a careful search.  They kept on investigating what particular time or what season the spirit within them was indicating concerning Christ as it testified beforehand about the sufferings meant for Christ and about the glory that would follow.  It was revealed to them that they were ministering, not to themselves, but to you, regarding what has now been announced to you by those who declared the good news to you with holy spirit sent from heaven. Into these very things, angels are desiring to peer." (1 Peter 1:10-12)

The 144,000 are the living stones that Jesus was speaking about when he stated, “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) The term "this temple" was not the Temple of Stone that existed then. Jesus already inspected that Temple and upon his inspection of it, he found it as a cave of robbers. Did you never read this scripture: ‘The stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone.' (Mark 12:10)

"But he was talking about the temple of his body." (John 2:21) Notice the scripture doesn't state his fleshly body for his fleshly body was to be sacrificed once and for all time, but rather 'the temple of his body.' “Just as the body is one but has many members, and all the members of that body, although many, are one body, so too is the Christ.” (1 Cor 12:12)

Allow scripture to interpret scripture. If Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone of God's temple, then there must be other stones. The other living stones are in fact the 144,000. (Rev 7:4) "Just as the Christ is head of the congregation, he being a savior of this body." (Ephesians 5:23b)

These living stones are Christ's Body.

• "Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you individually is a member." (1 Cor 12:27)
• "Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? (1 Corinthians 3:16)
• WTS Quote: Paul calls the congregation “God’s temple.” At Eph 2:21, 22, the congregation is called “a holy temple” that God inhabits “by spirit.” This means that God uses his holy spirit, or invisible active force, to motivate those in the congregation, to sustain them, and to help them cultivate its fruitage. (Ga 5:22, 23) The apostle Peter uses a similar comparison, calling the disciples “living stones.” (1Pe 2:5)

The Apostle Peter also referred to the temple by stating, "As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God, you yourselves as living stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, in order to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 2:4-5)

The 144,000 are Christ's body in which mankind can approach the One True God, Jehovah through Jesus Christ. They are also known has Christ's Brothers in how the world of mankind will be Judged in the Last Days that are now coming to their end. Notice the following scriptures:

• Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17) Jesus own statement exposes the lie that he and the evildoer went to heaven the same day they were to die. Notice he stated to Mary Magdalene, "Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father" after his resurrection.
• "For just as we have in one body many members, but the members do not all have the same function, so we, although many, are one body in union with Christ, but individually we are members belonging to one another." (Romans 12:4)
• Then he will answer them, saying: ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ (Matthew 25:45) Jesus will condemn those who mistreat the least ones of his brothers.

But how long would the sealing of the 144,000 take? This sealing process is a timed event. It did not take place in a literal 72 hour period. "And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000" (Rev 7:4) And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrise, having a seal of the living God; and he called with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” (Rev 7:2-3)

Did you notice what is to happen before the four angels are allowed to harm the earth? It was after a certain event. Once the 144,000 are sealed, then it paves the way for Jesus to bring judgement upon those who mistreated his chosen ones of the 144,000. The scriptures are pointed. "If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple." (1 Corinthians 3:17)

So let's review Jesus' Prophecy that has been unfolding since Pentecost 33 CE. “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) This temple is Christ's Brothers of the 144,000 which are in turn Christ's Body. Jesus stated "in three days I will raise it up."

Jesus could of stated this in several ways.

• in three days
• on the third day
• after two days

Again, allow scripture to interpret scripture. "He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him." (Hosea 6:2)

Look and see with eyes of faith. Apply the scriptures. "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)

• The Body of Christ began to be collected on Pentecost 33 CE.
• Pentecost happened on 33 CE + 2000 yrs = 2033 CE the third day begins 2034. Not all anointed will be heavenly at this point but you can apply other scriptures during the Last Days of this Age as they come to their End:

"Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed." (1 Corinthians 15:51-52)

You won't find 2034 in the Bible, but you won't find 33 CE either. Yet, 33 CE was a 'timed event' that comes from the Messiah being cut off in the middle of that 70th week and Pentecost followed 50 days later. They looked with their eyes but they could not see.

We also get 1914 from another 'timed event' that occurred. But when you add the Last Days of Noah, what do you get for the Last Days of this Age? 1914 + 120 yrs = 2034

Knowing these things doesn't give you divine protection or extraordinary insight but it may make you more accountable to Jehovah. "For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late!" (Habakkuk 2:3)

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

You sound so frightened. Calling me names will not save you, and your GB cannot save you.

I use the name Jesus yes but we all know that is not God's Son's real name. 

What Is Jesus' Real Name? Indeed, Yeshua is the Hebrew name for Jesus. It means "Yahweh is Salvation."

YHWH = Almighty God.  Yeshua = Jesus 

I believe in both, but I don't expect to be saved.

We need to remember that Yeshua was talking to the disciples at the time of that scripture you've quoted. 

It is so easy to misuse scripture by applying it to all people. 

 

Slandering Jehovah by claiming there is no "J" in the Hewbrew is a mute point. Transliteraion into English whic ALWAYS had the "J". Stop speaking English since you don't like English. 

Ιεχώβα and Ιησούς   Ο Ιησούς σημαίνει ότι ο Ιεχωβά είναι η σωτηρία.

The spelling is different in almost every language you Jesus Denier. Adolf Hilter took that demonmic teaching from the Cult of the catholic trinity church to wipe out 6 million Jews you holocaust denier.  

Just now, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

You actually sound FRIGHTENED Billy. Be prepared as I am. Almighty God has given Jesus Christ 'all authority' in Heaven and here on this Earth. We are both being judged. I'm willing to die. Are you ?  

You're nothing more than a mere hypocrite trying to cling to the Name of Jesus when you denounce the very meaning of his Name.  "Jehovah is Salvation"  

"Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life." John 5:24

Just now, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Never mind Billy. Keep dreaming that you know the 'truth'. Keep serving the GB.

I wonder how much 'protection' the GB will give you when your Judgement takes place ? 

At least I'm ready to die for my faith in God through Jesus Christ. Are you ready to die for your GB ? 

I'm pointing to your blatant hypocrisy of your witches brew when you denounced the Name JEHOVAH.  Claiming there is no Jevovah which proves you a liar.  No "J" would mean No Jesus, No Jews. Being a bigot suits you so well. Witches are cunning but not very smart, sorta dumb actually. 

27 minutes ago, Witness said:

I don't assume that.  Do you?

Are you saying there are no Jews?

Honestly, you come up with the strangest strawman arguments that aren't strawman arguments.  

I'm pointing to your blatant hypocrisy of your witches brew when you denounced the Name JEHOVAH.  Claiming there is no Jevovah which proves you a liar.  No "J" would mean No Jesus, No Jews. Being a bigot suits you so well. Witches are cunning but not very smart, sorta dumb actually. 

2 minutes ago, Witness said:

 

We all have an agenda and God does also.  The GB have the agenda to mislead.  To counter that, God "sends" his messengers, who tell the truth about their deceit.  It was always that way with Israel, and now with spiritual "Israel".  Jer 5:14; Rev 1:1; 11:1-3; Jer 23:29

 

Well, you certainly were not sent by the true God Jehovah by all your deceit. And you certainly are not spiritual "Israel" stirring up a witches brew claiming God's Name is not Jehovah. Can we assume the Christ is not Jesus?  Are there no Jews? You're FULL of deceit.

So because you are lukewarm and neither hote nor cold,f I am going to vomit you out of my mouth. (Rev 3:16)

4 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

How thoughtful of you, your trying to save me money on my car insurance:p

Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. (Matthew 24:40)  See study note on Lu 17:34.  

To be abandoned would then mean to be judged worthy of destruction.

1 hour ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Indeed, and that just shows you where the Governing Body of the Watchtower/JW org are. 

The GB and many JWs, especially Elders are Sexually Immoral, they 'murder' people spiritually, they idolize the JW Org, and they love and practice lying.  

You seem to fit in there very nicely Rambo. 

 

Maybe you should apply those things to yourself? 

It proves that less and less deserving ones are refusing to come into our inner rooms from the outside. 

• “Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave." Matthew 10:11
• Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.’ Revelation 22:15
• These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 2 Thessalonians 1:9
• Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, And shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment Until the wrath has passed by. Isaiah 26:20

Just now, JW Insider said:

Not babies, per se. Only when they are becoming "publishers." But it is true that this is where most of the newly baptized ones come from.

It will be in the near future as our preaching work comes to its end.  Jehovah's Witnesses will not always be witnessing to those in (2 Timothy 3:1-5).  We will soon turn away from those...who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus as they die the second death. (2 Thess 1:8)

21 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

Aren't babies born in with jw parents counted as jw's as well?

You're not saved.

4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

This might often be true. But more often it brings a polite "no thank you" from those who don't want to listen. The proportion of countries where there is outright persecution and banning of our work has actually improved. In most countries of the world the reaction to our message is non-violent, even peaceful. And sometimes, it is obviously still quite enthusiastically positive. The 8.6 million plus publishers in 2019 conducted 9.6 million Bible Studies, and 300,000 new ones were baptized. That's nearly a third of a million new persons. And shows that on average there was more than one Bible Study conducted per publisher.

 

Think about it. Everything I stated got what type of reaction from those who don't want to hear the Good News about God's Kingdom.  The earth is being pummeled by pestilences and plagues, yet people are more blind and deaf to the Good News, now more then ever. 

Fast Facts—Worldwide

The Good News of God's Kingdom...

Preaching the Good News of God's Kingdom in Satan's World often brings a hostile and violent reaction from the unfaithful and lawless one. If this is how they react when the Good News of God's Kingdom is declared, how do you think they will react to the final message of divine destruction is delivered? Soon, those who reject the Good News will have no recourse.

What to look for to help gain discernment for the coming events:

• Brothers and Sisters who are 70 and 80 now, becoming 90 and 100
• 144,000 Congregations
• No Response in the preaching work
• An outbreak of peace and security proclaimed by the political kings
• Treat those coming for you with hospitality and kindness

Gog of Magog...

Gog of Magog in the Book of Ezekiel represents Satan's Entire Political system of things. It is Pre- Millennial. Once the Great Tribulation starts, Jesus separates the sheep and goats and then he turns his attention towards Satan's Entire Political system of things. Christ Millennial Reign actually begins at Armageddon, the Revelation Phase of his Presence. You can study the three phases of Christ Return to help with Spiritual Insight.

Satan's Earthly Organization has many facets and allies that work in its behalf to starve, maim, and kill anyone who refuses to receive its mark. "It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead,  and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name." (Rev 13:16)

Soon, Gog of Magog will be no more.... and Satan and his hordes abyssed. After the 'time limit' of the thousand years comes to its end, Satan is released from the abyss and influences mankind once again to take on a rebellion. Those who reject Jehovah's Sovereignty as expressed by Christ and the 144,000 will gather Worldwide.

Gog and Magog comes about, as It is Post- Millennial. The conquest of Jesus Christ isn't over just yet, the War of Almighty God continues: "Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea." (Rev 20:7-8)

"And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them." (Rev 20:9) "And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." (Rev 20:10)

'Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.' (1 Corinthians 15:24) It's at this point that, Jesus Christ can once again make the claim, "It has been accomplished!" He will have finished his conquest to the full, bringing mankind back to perfection as to the time of Adam and Eve's perfect condition prior to their willful sinning.... Please act today and be sure to visit Jehovah's Witnesses Official Website.

4 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

I don't know about where you live, but the tap water in my neck of the woods taste horrible. I gotta have my triple filtered water.

One should note, you have already rejected the living water that gives everlasting life. From now on, you are in a parched desert with no water at all. For dust you are and to dust you will return. This is the second death. Walking by with jugs of living water. 😁

Water is essential for all living things. From the tiniest molecules to the vast oceans, see how water is masterfully interwoven into the fabric of life.

The scriptures plainly point out that the earth existed prior to the Six Creative Days on the earth. WE read, "Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters." (Genesis 1:2)

The Earth wasn't the first thing created in our Solar System, but rather, the Last thing created in our Solar System. Scientific carbon dating, dates our Earth to be about 4.5 Billion Years Old, which is relatively young to the rocks found on the earth from terrestrial sources that have been dated to be about 15 Billion Years Old.

After Jesus Christ summoned his 12 disciples and giving them authority to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity, he revealed to them, "Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)

As distressing as pestilences are, they are part of the Composite Sign of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory. (Luke 21:10-11) So the pummeling of pestilences we SEE today, affect everyone living on the earth "Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen." (Rev 1:7)

Pestilences were often used in the past to execute divine judgment. However, as the Last Days conclude to their end, the Pestilences and Plagues will no longer be directed against all the tribes of the earth. Soon, the pestilences will only affect those who refuse to know Jehovah God and are disobedient to the good news of Jesus Christ. "This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you." (2 Thessalonians 1:6)

This is Really Good News for the obedient and the faithful in rejoicing, for Jesus adds the words: “But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.” (Luke 21:28)

As new pestilence and plagues become a common place in this last hour of this system of things, Jehovah Witnesses look forward to the end of Satan's System of things. These viruses are severely contagious which affect how we conduct our Bible Studies, the preaching work, and even Baptizing New Christian Believers. Such adjustments are welcomed and we look forward to a Bright Future as this gloomy system of things come to its end. For those on the outside of our inner rooms, the wicked will soon be swallwwed up by the second death as they start dying off. (Rev 22:15)

The removal of the wicked will be a day of relief for those who have the work of bearing witness of Jehovah and his Anointed One Jesus Christ. Therefore, as the last Days come to their end, there will be no need to witness to those dying off. Those who have God's Name on them will keep on living into Christ's Millinieal Reign where they will find exquisite delight. (Pslams 37:10-11)

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6 hours ago, Pudgy said:

 

7 hours ago, BroRando said:

But the "J' you can't use a "J' what sounds it make.  No Jews, No Eijah, No Jesus, No Jehovah,.

Remember it's all about how they pronounce of the "J"... is it Jah or Jee, or Jay? 

Pure Demonic Deception.  Then STOP using the "J"  altogether.

 

7 hours ago, Pudgy said:

You know, I am just a cartoon dog, two dimensional, but your comment BroRando, is a clear example of a one dimensional comment that has absolutely ZERO relevance to what Witness mentioned in the "Divine Name" brochure.

You may as well have stated "Entrails in the middle of the highway can't speak!".

I notice how you Pudgy, Witness and Patiently waiting for Truth all to have the same tendancy.  I don't buy the lie that they are Christian, they reject Jesus claiming there is no "J" in Hebrew. Get the demonic teaching? 

No Jehovah. No Jesus. No Jerusalem, No Jews. Hitler thought the same way that was propagated by the Catholic Church.

The white supremacist Adolf Hilter bought into the Catholic teaching about the letter "J" and all three of you denounce Jehovah because his name starts with a "J" so you then you twist and turn like snakes and now claim it's about the prouncation? That's a cowawds way out. So you reject the "J" and use decption pushing the satanic lie that there is No Jehovah. No Jesus. No Jerusalem, No Jews. 

Hitler thought the same way that was propagated by the Catholic Church. Except taking special note of No Jews.  White Supremacy started to spawn it's Catholic Roots in killing off the Jews simply because of the agruement you three agree with.  Yet, you have no problem being a Hyprocite and using the Name JESUS, all the while denounce that it means 'Jehovah is Salvation.'

I would bet if all three of youe were investigated, we would find the common denominator of whites supremacy.  No Jheovah, No Jesus, No Jews. You deserve what you get at Armegeddon.

2 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

ZERO relevance!

Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation'  It's no relevance to you.  Isaiah means "Salvation of Jehovah"

Matthew 15:7

You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said:

25 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

You know, I am just a cartoon dog, two dimensional, but your comment BroRando, is a clear example of a one dimensional comment that has absolutely ZERO relevance to what Witness mentioned in the "Divine Name" brochure.

You may as well have stated "Entrails in the middle of the highway can't speak!".

But the "J' you can't use a "J' what sounds it make.  No Jews, No Eijah, No Jesus, No Jehovah,.

Remember it's all about how they pronounce of the "J"... is it Jah or Jee, or Jay? 

Pure Demonic Deception.  Then STOP using the "J"  altogether.