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  1. 56 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    I do not believe any of the above - therefore, you are trying to slander me.  Do you realize that?  This is unchristian behavior.  This is all slander without proof!

    I have no need to slander you.  But your weeping and gnashing of teeth give spiritual evidence of what is happening to up. You can cry and scream all you want, it won't change a single thing. 

    "Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." (Matthew 13:40-42)

    14 hours ago, Arauna said:

    The earthly time of Job was just before Moses came to Oz.... so we can place these literal events in a earthly time frame.  (There is no physical time in heaven).

    Not according to scripture. "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)

  2. 7 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    provide the scipture not your opinion

    She's not a sister but an impostor.   

    9 hours ago, Arauna said:

    The earthly time of Job was just before Moses came to Oz.... so we can place these literal events in a earthly time frame.  (There is no physical time in heaven).

    • She doesn't even know that Jesus was Crowned in 1914 to become King of God's Kingdom.
    • She also rejected that the Last Days are coming to their End. 
    • She refused to stand up to the apostates when JEHOVAH was being slandered.
  3. 10 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    By 1889, Jehovah’s anointed ones, as 19th-century light bearers, had already received correction on the matter of Christ’s return. In Volume 2 of Studies in the Scriptures, pages 158 to 161, Charles T. Russell, the first president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, wrote: “Parousia . . . signifies presence, and should never be translated coming, as in the common English Bible . . . The ‘Emphatic Diaglott,’ a very valuable translation of the New Testament, renders parousia properly, presence . . . , not that of coming, as being on the way, but presence, as after arrival [Jesus] says, ‘As the days of Noah, so shall also the parousia [presence] of the Son of man be.’ Notice, that the comparison is not between the coming of Noah and the coming of our Lord . . . The contrast, then, is between the time of the presence of Noah among the people ‘before the flood,’ and the time of the presence of Christ in the world, at his second advent, ‘before the fire’—the extreme trouble of the Day of the Lord [Jehovah] with which this age ends.”—Matthew 24:37.

    both noah and lot in differant times set up the pattern of the way things would develop ,both were present throughout the events that surrounded them ,so the same pattern of events are occuring with the INVISIBLE kingly presence of jesus today

    "As early as in the year 1876, in an article that he submitted for publishing in The Bible Examiner, the president had pointed forward to 1914 as the date for “the times of the Gentiles” to end, with serious consequences for the whole world of mankind."

    Back in 1876, only a few people were listening. A good number left his Bible study group.  However, has time was getting closer then more started to gain understanding.  In the Bible Students Monthly, on January, 1914, Brother Russell wrote: "'The Earth Abideth Forever' Christ will not return to Earth as a Man - Present Year Believed to Mark Great Change of Dispensation, but World May not discern Immediate Difference."

    "Our Lord, in describing His Second Presence, clearly indicated that it would be unnoticed by the world until the cataclysm of trouble should come. Thus He likened the earlier days of His presence to that period before the Flood, when the world, unconscious of the impending catastrophe, continued to build, eat and drink as usual, and knew not. So, says the Master, it will be in the end of this Age. Eating, drinking, building, planting and marrying will proceed as usual; and the world will not know that they are in the PRESENCE of the Son of Man."

    And we seen evidence of this even in 2022 on this very board.  They reject and deny that the Last Days have begun. When we preach and let people know we are now at the end of this period, people scoff and ridicule us, majority of those being religious hypocrites!  Denying the very Name of JEHOVAH or sat idly by while apostates were slandering. 

    Notice he didn't write Second Coming, but rather 'Second Presence'? Brother Russell was speaking of Christ's PAROUSIA--PRESENCE. He continues, "The Bible nowhere tells that Jesus took the human nature to keep it forever, and to return with it to Heaven, where it would be completely out of order and out of place. The Bible teaches, on the contrary, that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God" (1 Cor 15:50); and that Jesus was made flesh merely 'that He, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man' (Heb 2:9) and that after doing this work He would "ascend up where He was before." (John 6:62) The great Day of Trouble, noted throughout the Scriptures as the Time of Trouble such as never was since there was a nation, will come upon them suddenly."

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  4. 42 minutes ago, Peter Carroll said:

    Have we seen an increase in “pestilences” and “food shortages” since 1914, as Jesus Christ foretold as part of the visible “sign” of his second presence? (Luke 21:11)

    Yes, interesting. Let's view this scripture. Many claim this is LITERAL.  If that was true, then why did Jesus state, "“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it.  For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.  Look! I have forewarned you.   Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.  For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the Presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:23-27)

    The Second Presence of Christ is SPIRITUAL.  That's why Jesus stated, "the sign of his Presence".  The sign given in Matthew is also given in the Book of Revelation with the Four Horsemen.  It's SPIRITUAL. Why?  THERE ARE NO HORSES IN HEAVEN...

    However, if a person really wants to dive into the Deeper things of JEHOVAH, the Second Presence of Christ comes in 3 Phases. The third and final phase is upon us as the Last Days come to their end. It's all about timing. We are quickly approaching the Revelation Phase when the wicked perceive the death they are dying is a permanent one. 

  5. 2 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    this makes sense, birth pains are also a timed event,with no choice at that TIME to escape such birth pains ,and it is reasonable to say that because you cannot get away from having such a thing [the birth pains illustration]that there would be not need to hold out repentance to mankind at that Time because escape from the events already planned is impossible ,all choices mankind has made decide where we stand then.its a bit like when an execution is planned and the guilty is on the gallows awaiting the rope ,no one is going to offer that one the chance to repent and just walk away from the planned event ,i.e their own neck snapping to the joy of the watching crowd [angels and repentant ones]

    as for the wicked dying off as a gradual event ,and as the wicked far out number the rightous then you just have to look at the numbers

    https://www.un.org/en/un-chronicle/global-population-will-soon-reach-8-billion-then-what

    Since the Last Days of 1914 are in reference to Satan's System of things... then the Birth Pains represent a New System of things being ushered in.  Those on the outside will not be able to escape the destruction.  

    The period of time leading up to the end of the system of things, or state of affairs, dominated by Satan. It runs concurrently with Christ’s presence. Under the direction of Jesus, angels will “separate the wicked from among the righteous” and destroy them. (Mt 13:40-42, 49) Jesus’ disciples were interested in the timing of that “conclusion.” (Mt 24:3) Before his return to heaven, he promised his followers that he would be with them until that time.—Mt 28:20.

    Armageddon is spiritual and commences when Jesus and angels will “separate the wicked from among the righteous” and destroy them. (Mt 13:40-4249)

    It took Jesus a period of 40 years to remove unfaithful Israel from the living and lay them in the dust and during this time, they were well fed and their clothes did not even wear out. Yet, they did not know that they were being destroyed. "Neither be murmurers, as some of them murmured, only to perish by the destroyer." (1 Cor 10:10)

    Now after the 1,000 years, the scriptures state, "Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea.  And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them." (Rev 20:7-9)

    Now that's LITERAL. The same ones that think Armageddon is Literal and flesh will fall off the bone and the wicked will simply melt away in a literal fire will be claiming Jehovah's Day is delaying. But such ones are in danger of being destroyed also. For them, they have "No Faith".

    ‘But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,’ and, ‘if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.’” (Hebrews 10:36-38) If Armageddon is literal from the start, then faith would not be needed to be exercised.  

  6. 1 hour ago, Arauna said:

    This was the first step which gradually leads to Armageddon. There are several steps to Armageddon. The turning against Babylon the Great is also one of the steps. 

    Not what you stated until you were corrected.  You stated: "when Satan was thrown out of heaven." 

    On 8/22/2022 at 2:56 PM, Arauna said:

    Armageddon.... it does not comprise spiritual events - except the literal war in the "spiritual realm" when Satan was thrown out of heaven. 

    Your previous quote "Armageddon.... it does not comprise spiritual events - except the literal war in the "spiritual realm" when Satan was thrown out of heaven"  is obviously untrue and in error. 

    Armageddon is still a future event, even though Satan has already been hurled out of heaven way back in 1914.

     

  7. 4 hours ago, Arauna said:

    Armageddon is not a condition.... It is a literal world situation..... a physical, not a spiritual event. Yes it has spiritual as well as physical consequences. 

    I know you lack understanding because you have already been mislead and held captive. 

    Jehovah’s Witnesses long ago stated in their publication Studies in the Scriptures, Volume IV: “We are not to expect any gathering of the people literally to the Hill of Megiddo.

    Historical Megiddo suggests a cornered condition, or situation, with no escape for the enemies of God. Thus, at Armageddon, God will make certain that all corruption and wickedness, no matter where it may be found on this globe, is crushed out of existence.—Revelation 21:8.

  8. 21 hours ago, Arauna said:

    Armageddon.... it does not comprise spiritual events - except the literal war in the "spiritual realm" when Satan was thrown out of heaven. 

    You're wrong... again. By your own admission since I wrote: 

    19 hours ago, BroRando said:

    Everything with Jehovah is a process. Satan was hurled out of Heaven back in 1914 so this is not Armageddon as you claim. "And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven." (Rev 12:7-8)

    This was brought about by the timing of the End of the Gentile times "So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." (Rev 12:9)

    Your admission of your own flip flop: 

    4 hours ago, Arauna said:

    The slave told us that the war in heaven after Jesus was crowned was the first event leading up to Armageddon. It put satan on earth where he could war against the anointed.  This was one of the first of the progressive events leading up to Armageddon. 

    So the hurling down of Satan leads to Armageddon but is NOT ARMAGEDDON itself as you falsely claimed. Jehovah's Prophecy in Genesis 3:15 caused everything in motion that will lead to Armageddon. 

     

  9. 40 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    Watch the convention programme of this year again and you will see the progression of Armageddon.... it does not comprise spiritual events - except the literal war in the "spiritual realm" when Satan was thrown out of heaven. 

    Everything with Jehovah is a process. Satan was hurled out of Heaven back in 1914 so this is not Armageddon as you claim. "And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven." (Rev 12:7-8)

    This was brought about by the timing of the End of the Gentile times.  "So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." (Rev 12:9)

    These things caused a time of trouble.  “During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time." (Daniel 12:1)

    "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." (Rev 12:12)

    Armageddon and the Abyss are not literal places but rather a situation that points to a certain condition. 

    7 hours ago, BroRando said:

    Once Jesus and the 144,000 bring mankind including those resurrected to perfection as Adam and Eve had in the Garden of Eden prior to sinning. Perfect Mankind will have the Opportunity to prove their Loyalty to Jehovah in a Perfect State. It is at this time, Jesus hands the Kingdom back to his God and Father before the Final Test.

     

    7 hours ago, BroRando said:

    The second Phase of Armageddon will be literal for all to see and witness. But who is the one that will be destroying Satan, his demons and his supporters? JEHOVAH.

    • And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them. (Rev 20:9)
    • And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Rev 20:10)

     

  10. Armageddon comes in two phases...

     

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    Most have not yet gained the understanding that Armageddon begins as a Spiritual Event and then Ends as a Literal One. The Last Days are cut short in the sense that Gog of Magog's Attack on God's Named People are stifled and held in check, and 'they will not cause any harm or any ruin in all my holy mountain'. (Isaiah 11:9) This EVENT could very well last 1,000 years while Satan and his demons are put in a deathlike state of inactivity. ARMAGEDDON is the beginning of Christ’s Millennial Reign. The Great Crowd enters“ the times of restoration of all things” that expands to include physical blessings for faithful humans on earth. These one's keep on living as they come out of the Last Days as Survivors. The wicked continue getting sick, growing old, and continue dying off. Their death is no longer a temporary death, but rather a permanent one called the second death of an everlasting destruction. Like Sodom and Gomorrah which was destroyed... those dying are destroyed forever never to return to Life.

    One should note, that before the cry of "Peace and Security!" can happen, Jesus has already judged the living. Therefore, this demonic cry is a 'timed event'. The time of REPENTANCE for the living has ended. "Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape." (1 Thess 5:3) Satan will witness the destruction of Babylon the Great with Frantic Rage as the Great Tribulation begins. It's at that very moment Jesus will act. "And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years."

    Then comes the removal of Satan's system of things which is symbolized by crushing, smashing, and fire meaning that it is being destroyed by everlasting destruction, never to be rebuilt. Even though many have claimed in the past that (Daniel 2:44) began in 1914. It has not. This scripture actually points to the destruction of Satan's Earthly Kingdoms, the beginning of the first phase of Armageddon.

    "And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.” (Genesis 3:15) The crushing of Satan's head that the Glorified Jesus Christ does, is a deathlike blow of inactivity for the 1,000 years for Satan and his demons of being abyssed.

    As for the second phase of Armageddon, it too is a 'timed event'. Once Jesus and the 144,000 bring mankind including those resurrected to perfection as Adam and Eve had in the Garden of Eden prior to sinning. Perfect Mankind will have the Opportunity to prove their Loyalty to Jehovah in a Perfect State. It is at this time, Jesus hands the Kingdom back to his God and Father before the Final Test.

    • Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. (1 Cor 15:24)
    • Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, (Rev 20:7)
    • and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. (Rev 20:8)

     

    The second Phase of Armageddon will be literal for all to see and witness. But who is the one that will be destroying Satan, his demons and his supporters? JEHOVAH.

    • And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them. (Rev 20:9)
    • And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Rev 20:10)
  11. 47 minutes ago, Witness said:

    Rev 18:4 - Come out of her, My people,
    so that you will not share in her sins
    or receive any of her plagues.
    For her sins are piled upto heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.

    Rev 18:4 - Come out of @Witness, My people,
    so that you will not share in her sins
    or receive any of her plagues.
    For her sins are piled upto heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.

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    "During that time {Jesus Christ} will stand up, the Great Prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt." (Daniel 12:1-2)

    So Michael is the angel that would be given a new name. That new name would have a significant meaning since prophecy states, "I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you on the way and to bring you into the place that I have prepared.  Pay attention to him, and obey his voice. Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgressions, because my name is in him." (Exodus 23:20-21)

    Since Michael was created in the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation, his name reflects that meaning. Michael when translated means 'Who is Godlike?' or 'Who Is Like God?' The scripture points this meaning out quite nicely, "You made him a little lower than godlike ones, And you crowned him with glory and splendor." (Psalm 8:5) Immanuel when translated means "With us is God?'

    The Scriptures also point out that Michael was sent and given the name to the glory of God the Father. "Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human." (Philippians 2:5-7) Yes, this very angel would be given the name to the glory of God the Father and have his Father's Name in him. “I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one."(John 17:11)

    "More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake.  For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground—  and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:8-11) The Name (Jesus) when translated means “Jehovah Is Salvation.

    "And war broke out in heaven: {Jesus Christ and his angels} battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven." (Rev 12:7-8)

    That War began in 1914 and has been affecting the earth and its inhabitants ever since. Michael gives encouragement to his followers: "I am coming quickly. Keep holding fast to what you have, so that no one may take your crown. The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name." (Rev 3:11-12) "So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." (Hebrews 1:4)

    'I, {Michael} sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’ (Rev 22:16)

  13. 1 hour ago, Peter Carroll said:

    you seem to be doing the opposite c lin ,,,you lie by saying they  are very diifferant and in that sense try to deny the truth the peter did indeed lie,this  has been presented to you try to use your eyes a little better

     you cannot handle the truth ,

    that old snake hissing again ,i remember the exact some conversation between satan and JEHOVAH ,when the old snake launched accusations at his creator ,both are futile

    Seems like @C-D67  has been here before down voting everytime JEHOVAH is used. The demons do scream and make a fuss as they are being tormented day and night in the lake of Gehenna,

  14. 34 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    True - he is extremely sweet and his face is so elastic that he would have done excellently as a comedian.  But we often judge people by appearance - something serious which the bible warns us all about.  

    If people knew that Brother Lett's Parents were deaf, they could see why he speaks the way he does.  Have you seen how a deaf person communicates? They over exaggerate to get their point across. When the wicked make fun of Brother Lett, they (the demons) are poking fun at the deaf. 

  15. 43 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

    I think Brother Lett’s expressions about babies being enemies of God were meant for a educated sane, savvi  theocratic audience who actually thinks about things and doesn’t have a knee-jerk reactions to something that may in another context be creepy but in the context it was intended perhaps with a little thought would be OK.

    Psalm 37:28

    For Jehovah loves justice, And he will not abandon his loyal ones. ע [Ayin] They will always be guarded; But the descendants of the wicked will be done away with.

    When a wicked generation abort their decendants in their wombs, maybe one should not be so opposed to it.  Did not Jehovah destroy the Firstborn of the wicked? Don't cry or feel sorry for the wicked destroying their own offspring. Small vipers grow up to be Big Vipers. 

    I love our Wonderful Governing Body!

  16. 14 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    Denial is lying plain and simple, either because the person doesn’t want to get caught, expose himself or is ashamed, angry, guilt-ridden or distrustful. but

    A lie, by definition, is an intentionally false statement. In entails the person knowing that something is false and still saying that it is true anyway. Which is a little different from denial of the truth. Because the person who is denying the truth may not be aware that what they’re doing is false.

    it was a deliberate conscious decision ,after being tested 3 times ,to confirm it was a conscious choice

    but you can deny once ,you can deny twice to deny 3 times is a confirmation of it definatly being a lie‼️

    Yes.. you are very much correct!  A denial of the truth is lying. For one to claim something that is not true...(a denial) is in fact lying.  Peter was not truthful. 

    Satan, the master of lying seduced Eve with of question lacking truth, “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?”

    While Jehovah actually stated, “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”

  17. 12 minutes ago, C-D67 said:

    In fact, the Bible has much to say about the  right foundation, which starts with Christ Jesus as the cornerstone. Here are some great KJV Bible verses about the right foundation. Buildings & Foundations 1 Kings 5:17 And the king commanded, and they brought great stones, costly stones, and hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.

    *** w13 3/1 p. 14 Peter and Ananias Lied—What Lesson Can We Learn? ***

    TEACH YOUR CHILDREN

    Peter and Ananias Lied—What Lesson Can We Learn? √

    As you know, a lie is something you say that you know is not true. Have you ever told a lie?— Even some grown-ups who love God have lied. You probably know about a person in the Bible who did. His name is Peter, one of Jesus’ 12 apostles. Let’s listen to the story about why he told some lies.

    After Jesus is arrested, he is taken to the home of the high priest. It is well past the middle of the night. Peter gets into the courtyard of the priest’s home without being recognized. In the light of a fire, the high priest’s servant girl who let Peter in recognizes him. “You, too, were with Jesus,” she says. Peter, in fear, says he was not.

    The Bible says that later “another girl noticed him.” She said: “This man was with Jesus.” Again, Peter denies it. After a little while, others go up to Peter and say: “Certainly you also are one of them.”

    Peter is scared. So for the third time, he lies, saying: “I do not know the man!” A rooster crows. Jesus looks at Peter, and Peter remembers that a few hours earlier, Jesus told him: “Before a cock crows, you will disown me three times.” Peter breaks down and cries. He is so sorry!

    Yes. The Kingdom of God is not far off from you... 😀

  18. 1 hour ago, C-D67 said:

    Peter denied Jesus three times because he feared for his safety, knowing that execution was the probable outcome if the authorities seized him. When Peter uttered his three denials, Jesus’ trial was underway, and it was clear that the authorities were treating him unjustly and that death was imminent. Why do the Gospels record Peter’s denials?

    Denial is not the same as stubbornly refusing to admit the obvious. It’s also not the same as kidding yourself about the truth of things. In short, denial is not conscious lying, but rather unconscious protection against unbearable pain.

    Peter lied to save his own skin because of the fear of men.  Followers of Jesus Christ are imperfect and can mistakes. To claim that the Governing Body is perfect and infallable is someone who is very weak or disillusioned in the faith.

    Didn't Paul attest to those whom eat only vegetables are weak in the faith? (Romans 14:2)

    Peter was weak in the faith.  There is a DIFFERENCE between weakness and wickedness.  The wicked one whom judges other servants of Jehovah will also be judged by their own measure. (Matthew 7:1-2)

  19. 12 minutes ago, xero said:

    @C-D67

    Did the apostles EVER tell a lie?

    Did they EVER teach the doctrine of men?

    Did they EVER appoint a date for Armageddon?

    Did the EVER add to God's word?

    Yes to all of these, and Jehovah had to clean up after them.

    Wasn't Simon Peter an Apostle who lied several times of not knowing Jesus Christ?  Guess @Witness is proving to all that (she) doesn't know any scripture at all. Plus she has a very big forehead...

    Revelation 17:5

    On her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the prostitutes and of the disgusting things of the earth.”

  20. 23 minutes ago, Witness said:

    That decision, becomes your active part in the war of Armageddon.  Joel 3:14

    Glad to see that you are starting to use the letter "J" again. 

    JOEL (Joʹel) [Jehovah Is God].

    Christians believe that Jesus died for the sins of humankind. (1 Peter 3:18) However, salvation requires more than believing in Jesus as Savior. The demons know that Jesus is “the Son of God,” but they face destruction, not salvation.—Luke 4:41; Jude 6.

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