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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    You made here excellently important point. Claims in WT publications said how Jesus and JHVH made examination and had chosen Them in 1919. WT members in those time, and members today have only such claims in publications at which they can put their trust.
    If Jesus and JHVH were involved than holy spirit was also involved in this appointed of anointed in WT Society. By all what is visible in Bible records we can conclude how people who claiming their appointed was done by those 3 are in dangerous position if holy spirit was not involved and if it is involved in process of appointing then or any time later.
    If holy spirit had nothing with their appointing than GB and all FDS inside WT Society speaking lies or if they are self deceived that makes them false teachers.
    If holy spirit did had something with past appointing of people in 1919, that not automatically making all who came later (after 1919) in WT Society to be also "appointed" and "chosen" by holy spirit. Because, it is well known how looked past hierarchic and how looks today this hierarchy in management of Organization. 
    We see how elders are appointed, if they fulfilling some obligated recommendations according to some Bible verses. In such cases humans are those who making observation and recommendation and put individual on position. Holy spirit is not involved in that process, but elders in particular area/congregation.
    People who take symbols considers themselves as "anointed". Here we have another, different situation. People around this individuals are able to make conclusion about them primary on visible fact how they eat bread and drink red wine. But that also not making some individual to be really "anointed".     
    Well, if GB siting on "Moses chair", because they participate in symbols, that not automatically makes them to be appointed by holy spirit, but can make them guilty before holy spirit.
    My business is not to remove them from "chair", but to not believe in every spirit who speaking "amazing things". 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    @Arauna  I really get the feeling you are frightened of my words. The hate seems to come from you not me. 
    As I've said before though  I must be careful with my words, remembering that john Butler was disfellowshipped from this blog by the Elders here. 
    Moses was not of the Anointed so his resurrection will be here on this Earth. The Governing Body say that they are Anointed, and have only recently admitted to not being inspired by God. If they are of the Anointed then i would presume their sins are sins against the Spirit which may not be forgivable. They are saying that they are the 'faithful and discreet slave', but they act more like the evil slave that beats their fellow slaves. They misuse scripture and make up rules to put pressure on the congregation. 
    To quote you  That is why you can not be  a JW..... you have lost your humanity and mercy on other humans. 
    But I say to you that your GB have lost their humanity and mercy, because they allow the Victims of Child Sexual Abuse to continue to suffer and they continue to hide paedophiles in the CCJW.  The GB continue to degrade the Anointed whilst giving praise to the Elders. They continue to tell congregants to do personal Bible study but condemn those same congregants if they find truth from the scriptures which proves the GB wrong. 
    Concerning your GB :- 
    Matthew 7 v 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
    Matthew 7 v 21 through 23  “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22  Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works* in your name?’a 23  And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    If Moses made only that one famous mistake, i would expect from God to forgive him, and not in the future time, after/with Resurrection, but in the very moment in the past. Perhaps God thought how Moses need extra lesson. 
    It is interesting how You made conclusion, about GB, how they making similar mistakes as Moses, but not deserve immediate punishment as in his case. Does this mean how GB never was and never will make such sort of "mistake" and will enter into Promised Land despite those "mistakes"?
    What makes GB's and Moses's mistakes to be so different and not calls for same sort of treatment, not calls for using same Principles ?? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    If Moses made only that one famous mistake, i would expect from God to forgive him, and not in the future time, after/with Resurrection, but in the very moment in the past. Perhaps God thought how Moses need extra lesson. 
    It is interesting how You made conclusion, about GB, how they making similar mistakes as Moses, but not deserve immediate punishment as in his case. Does this mean how GB never was and never will make such sort of "mistake" and will enter into Promised Land despite those "mistakes"?
    What makes GB's and Moses's mistakes to be so different and not calls for same sort of treatment, not calls for using same Principles ?? 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    It's wise to define mistakes.  Moses clearly was an inspired prophet of God.  We have written evidence that God worked through him. Parting the Red Sea was not by his power, but by the power of God. 
    We have clear evidence that prophesy made by Watchtower leaders was never under inspiration from God.  We also have clear understanding from God through his prophet Moses, what to expect will happen to false prophets.
     But a prophet who presumes to speak in My name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
    21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.  Deut 18:20-22
    Being a false prophet is not dismissed by a slap of the hand from God.  If a leader expects obedience to his words that fail time and time again; and then makes the judgment call of spiritual death on someone for rejecting his leadership, would you call that an act of "humanity and mercy on other humans"?  Thousands who have accepted Christ's leadership over the leadership of a wicked slave, have been sanctioned as spiritually dead.  
     
    “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.  Matt 24:9-13
     
     
     
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/04/discerning-false-christs-and-false.html
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kosonen in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    Perhaps same treatment and attitude was used by Kremlin about JW letters ? 
     
    ... I gather that they receive a steady stream of these from ones who indicate from their very first words that they are unhinged.
     For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 1 Cor 1 21
    What if Jan Kosonen's "foolishness" is wisdom of God?
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    What if a frog had wings, and could fly?
    Some of his points were very good, and very important.
    Some were strong personal opinions with no basis in fact.
    Of course, I may be wrong, but it is not probable.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    In that second photo, is that rabbit ears sticking up out of that Easter Basket?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    Matthew 5 v 38 through 42
     “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.
    The GB and their Lawyers do not understand the spiritual things from God. 
    It also seems they are ashamed of their own videos. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    ..I could not tell is you were being sarcastic or earnest in your comment.
    I have to give it my "best shot", guessing to the best of my ability, using my experience and common sense ... often using the "smell test", and have to actually bet my life on the conclusions I reach.
    If I guess, or decide wrongly, I of course have to pay the price ... and that can be anything from years of misery, to instant death, or worse.
    If I rely on "Sky Pilots" for their wisdom, and THEY are wrong, I STILL have to pay the price, still anything from years of misery, to instant death, or worse.
    .... AND THEY PAY NO PRICE WHATSOEVER !
    ..... while sitting under a waterfall of free money that never stops.
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    I have been told that in some Middle-Eastern countries that all someone has to do to divorce their wife is say three times "I divorce thee ! ... I divorce thee ! ... I divorce thee ! ", and put Camel poop on her shoes.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” - Mat 19:9
    "But I tell you, everyone who looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." - Mat 5:28
     
    Now, we have a little problem. WTJWorg forget to put meaning of what adultery is from Mat 5.28 definition, "looks at woman with lust" .... is already adultery. Or we can expand application on each and every, on woman who looks on man, or on one homosexual/lesbian who looks on other heterosexual person or on another homosexual/lesbian person with lust. 
    Well, WTJworg definition of "por.nei'a" is not perfect, it is with a significant disadvantage. "Unlawful sexual intercourse" or por.nei'a, according to Jesus, is "looks with lust". Taken from this, husband and wife just need to see, to prove to self, how some of them has/had that "looks with lust" and is free to divorce and to remarry. :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    The key to understanding that scripture, Arauna is to understand WHO Jesus was speaking to .... specifically .... and what was the then common practice of divorce.... among that specific group.
    Or do you believe that a man or woman is doomed to live the rest of their life alone, because their mate abandoned them to die, moves away, and never returns?
    Remember, IT WAS THE DEATH PENALTY TO WORK ON THE SABBATH ..... but Jesus brought common sense to that argument, with the example of saving a lost sheep.
    During the Las Vegas massacre several years ago, a man stole  a Utility Company truck in a parking lot to go into the line of fire, and take the wounded and dying to hospitals.
    If he had been one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I suspect he would have been disfellowshipped as an un-repentent vehicle thief, as he admitted to doing it, was not sorry he did it, and the crime was public and notorious.
    I read about it here in North Carolina ... it was world news.
    Plus... he put his life in danger with total abandon.
    Which REAL men do, from time to time, for all sorts of "un-approved" reasons.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE CHOSEN   
    https://studios.vidangel.com/the-chosen
    I don't watch television and I'm quite choosy as to films that I will watch, but when it comes to the 'Life of Christ Jesus' I am quite keen to watch films and programmes of interest. 
    I have just finished watching Series One of ' The Chosen'. It is about the Life of Jesus from before He made Himself know to the 'public at large'. 
    Of course it uses a lot of 'artistic licence' and lots of things in it are not facts, but I find it helpful to see the type of lifestyle the Jews lived and to see Jesus and His followers as real people. 
    I don't know if your 'Leaders' will tell you not to watch it, but i found it relaxing and a pleasure to watch. I particularly liked Nicodemus and his meeting with Jesus, the questions asked and answered. 
    I don't think any of you would find it offensive but of course you will note many faults in it, as i did. However, in my opinion it is far better to watch this than watch most other films of our time. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    This is just one of few questions, and not rightly addressed to/for me, but for You too. Issue of "acceptance" and "beliefs" in/about religious matters, here, is in focus, of course. Individual inner sense, feeling about past events and records about such events is question or decision for individual to make. Something about issues we put in focus, is not reasonable to put as black and white format, and to say how not accepting your's beliefs is wrong. 
    If i would say how i am fully accept Jesus and Gospel, that doesn't mean how in the same time i have to accept WTJWorg and GB doctrines, because of their claim how only they "have the truth" about Jesus and Gospel. :))   
    ..... and exactly that is the question you have to deal with. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    I agree with @Srecko Sostar about acceptance of God, Jesus and Gospels. 
    Most JWs cannot separate their religion, from God, Christ and the bible.
    Most JWs think that if a person leaves the CCJW then that person has also left God and Christ and no longer believes the Bible. Mr Harley seems to be one of those that cannot get his head around the difference between God / Christ and the CCJW. 
    But even sensible JWs admit to the wrongful interpretation of scriptures by the GB. And honest JWs admit to the horrible CSA problems within the CCJW. And many JWs say how wrong the shunning and disfellowshipping of innocent congregants is.  And I would think it came as a shock to some when the GB admitted to NOT being inspired of God. So the GB now admit they do as many others do. They study God's word through prayer, and then make their own interpretations. Many of those interpretations are turned into rules of men and have no real scriptural basis. 
    The hypocrisy seems to appear when the GB 'change the meaning' of scriptures to suit their own needs. But JWs just accept the change as normal. Whereas people outside the CCJW may have known the true meaning many years before. Or in my case I realise that I am not supposed to guess or to know many things. It keeps me humble to know that it is a continuous learning curve. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    Old Testament (Jew Law) promote few sorts of slavery, males (men) as owners of females (women) wars for land, superiority of one nation (ethnic and religious belonging, common among all nations until today). As any other nation old Jew nation have had good and bad things to show us.   
    Their patriarchal system was customary for those time. Even Jesus, as i used Bible verse before, said - Jesus said: “Whoever divorces his wife...". Here is notable to see how man is in position to decide about divorce of his wife. Wife is not in position to divorce her husband. Law established this order. Wife is in possession of her husband, and not conversely.
    Well yes, we have old and new philosophy. :)) Perhaps all people are equal before God. But women are not equal before/with men :)))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    This is just one of few questions, and not rightly addressed to/for me, but for You too. Issue of "acceptance" and "beliefs" in/about religious matters, here, is in focus, of course. Individual inner sense, feeling about past events and records about such events is question or decision for individual to make. Something about issues we put in focus, is not reasonable to put as black and white format, and to say how not accepting your's beliefs is wrong. 
    If i would say how i am fully accept Jesus and Gospel, that doesn't mean how in the same time i have to accept WTJWorg and GB doctrines, because of their claim how only they "have the truth" about Jesus and Gospel. :))   
    ..... and exactly that is the question you have to deal with. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    Meanwhile, in the hallowed corridors of World Headquarters ......


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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Whatever happened to Watchtower Farms?   
    At what appears to be the same address - 900 Red Mills Rd, Wallkill, NY 12589...
    ...is another type of "farm"/corporation, for "religion, spiritual development"
    VALLEY FARMS CORPORATION
    Mission
    Valley Farms Corporation is a religious organization formed to purchase, sell, or lease real property to support the needs of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States. The organization remits any income generated from the real property it owns to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.     
     https://www.guidestar.org/profile/11-2925405
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Valley Farms Corporation is a real estate association based in Wallkill, NY that was founded in 1987. As of 2018 they had $284,426 in revenue and $2.0 million in assets.
      The IRS revoked this organization's federal tax exemption on 2013-05-15, for not filing a Form 990-series annual return or notice for three consecutive tax years. Program areas at Valley Farms Corporation
    Acquiring real property and holding title to, and collecting income from such property
    https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/valley-farms-corporation,112925405/#section_form990s
     
     
     
    (information provided by Kim Mikey youtube)
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    According to Jesus' words, we are being judged by the inclinations of our heart. 
    I am happy that both God and Christ are merciful and that whomever is judging me knows more about me than i know about myself. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    What ever would be object/subject of our looking .... we are able to make that particular look to be sin of various gradation and intensity . Well, as imperfect or perfect human we shall be involved in particular situation and be in deep .....
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    If we were judged by our thoughts, and not our actions ... who among us would not become murderers?

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    @Srecko Sostar  I like your words. They are deep and have meaning. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    Jesus said: “Whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication [porneia, gross sexual immorality], and marries another commits adultery.” (Matt. 19:9) - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1980570
    One of problem here in verse is patriarchal look on world. Men are first and above women and above anything else. I don't know did Jesus really told this or not. If He is, i don't know why He said it this way and what sort of implications and complications would be if two married people make agreement and each go own way to form new family or new marriage with or without children. Because if two stay in problematic marriage there is also implications and complications.... for the rest of their life. 
    Jesus entering completely new view on life and religion. I would expect from Him to understand all sort of problems and deviations and Bethel's PilowGate Instructions and examples in which human directives adding to world's injustice and tragedy ....inside "His" church. I guess, male people masturbated, was homosexuals and practice sodomy, in His time too, so how come to that, that He didn't mentioned nothing about such situations, that GB Helpers needed to add appendix and upgrade Master's teaching?
    Jesus was aware, i guess, how women in His time was dependable on men's world, in many aspects including financial dependence. But, whether He would heal on Saturday or not? Would Jesus give advice and recommendation to sister in congregation how she should stay in marriage with sodomite husband or just separate and be alone and miserable for rest of her life?? Or would He encourage her to pray more and preach more and be regular on every meeting and all problem will gone?? Would Solomon say; bring me a sword and i will cut it into two peaces, a piece for each one of you? 
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