Patiently waiting for Truth

It’s called “conducting yourself in the house of God, which is the congregation of the living God” deporting oneself with reasonable respect for those who have given their all in Jehovah’s service. Pudgy knows how to do it. That’s why the invitation is extended to him.
Oh, cool your jets, you crazy malignant woman who quotes scripture by the truckload but never finds the one that applies. Review the above verse again: 
“…that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in God’s household, which is the congregation of the living God…” 1 Timothy 3:15
Note that it is not just “me and Jesus, or even “me and Jehovah.” It will not do to spew hatred toward the congregation, at the same time wrapping yourself in the robe of your holier than thou love of God and Jesus. 
“If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.” 1 John 4:20

Thanks for the kind invitation TTH, but the reason I left before is I was offending some very fine people with a very different sense of humor.
I realize that because of the general nature of what I am accused of, I am assumed guilty until proven innocent, and it looks like that resolution may take several more years, until it goes before a jury. 

For that reason alone, I initiated and asked the Elders to disfellowship me, and reluctantly, they eventually did, so the Truth may not be spoken of abusively.
I have learned to live without support from anyone, and may survive this …. Because, after all … it’s “one to a box”.

What I found interesting about Tom's words, were "due to the constant fighting with those who truly do hate Jehovah’s organization and all it stands for"
Nothing said about the Father and the Son, but about an organization.  I don't think he can deny that there are those on here who have kept their faith in God and Jesus after leaving the Wt.   Is that not the important thing?  
Where does his faith lie?  Does he believe that God and an earthly organization are inseparable?  
“To whom will you compare me or make me equal? Who will you measure me with, so that we should be like each other?"  Isa 46:5
 

Huh! Here I write a long message for Pudgy only to find he does not accept messages! Very well, with one tiny change, I’ll put it here:
“Thinking suggested on the closed forum that we post there and not on the open one, due to the constant fighting with those who truly do hate Jehovah’s organization and all it stands for and haven’t moderated a whit over eons of time. There was widespread agreement that it was an idea whose time has come.
I’m sure it’s not the end of participation on that open forum, but at least for a time I would expect it to be much less. 
In your new persona, you have not joined the closed group as your old persona did. I’m sure you’d be welcome there, as your old persona was. You know how to behave and keep your darkest grumblings in check. 
It may be you prefer squabbling and raucous posts. If so, it’s a valid choice. But you will get much less support here from Witnesses, I’m afraid. For the time being at least (it could change) they have moved on.
Why don’t you show up on the closed as you previously did: “Surprise!”

Who accused him, but his own people?  Who accuse any anointed "kings" and JWs, who speak against the religious system of their own people?  Why are they disfellowshipped, if it isn't for sedition?
Luke 21:12-15 - "But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. On account of My name they will deliver you to the synagogues and prisons, and they will bring you before kings and governors. 13This will be your opportunity to serve as witnesses. 14 So make up your mind not to worry beforehand how to defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you speech and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict."
A judicial committee of "kings"/elders (who represent the anointed "kings of the earth") prompted by your governors, decides the spiritual fate of those who are determined to follow the truth in Jesus Christ, and not the false doctrine of the governors.  
And that fate is considered a spiritual death. (John 16:2-3; Rev 13:15)  They "die" for truth, not a half-truth, but Christ's truth - his words that are not adulterated by the words of false teachers; and follow in the footsteps of Jesus - NOT the footsteps of leaders who deceive all of you into believing a truth can be changed out, just as a light bulb may need changing.  How clever of Satan to twist the concept of a lie, as past or present "truth".   I can't imagine Jesus ever using the term "new light".  It is a form of excuse for failed doctrine. 
In Israel, people accepted false teachers among them - to lead them without questioning or "testing the spirits". (1 John 4:1; Jer 23:16) They accepted the idols that their leaders demanded to be worshipped. (Exod 32:8;1 Kings 12:28-30;Hos 8:5-6; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4)
God sent His prophets to warn them of their sins.  Usually, only a small number took heed of that warning.  It is promised that God sends a prophet in the last days to warn His people of their sins and to restore the priesthood, and truth,  in the Temple of God. (Mal 3:1-4; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3)   They have been deceived by the very men who have trained you to look into Satan's world for fulfillment of prophesy.
Do you really think Satan, in the last days, wants the anointed remnant to know the truth of the fulfillment of Revelation, especially since he has asked to sift them as wheat? He uses DECEIT to do this and what does he use to accomplish deceiving them?  He has the ability to perform "signs and wonders" in the world under his control.  He can make happen what he wants to make happen, just as in Job's day.  
What else does he use?
2 Cor 11:3,4,12-15 - "I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily.
But I will keep on doing what I am doing, in order to undercut those who want an opportunity to be regarded as our equals in the things of which they boast. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions."
I don't believe you would take sides.  I see how you are diverted down the wrong path, and applying Revelation's prophesies about the fulfillment of the last days, to Satan's world; just where he wants you to look.  And there is plenty to look at.
Luke 17:20-21 - The Pharisees asked Jesus when God’s kingdom would come. He answered them, “People can’t observe the coming of God’s kingdom. 21 They can’t say, ‘Here it is!’ or ‘There it is!’ You see, God’s kingdom is within  you.”  
What we treasure in our heart is what will determine whether we are in the Kingdom. (Matt 6:19-21)  If we treasure what we see developed by spiritual leaders - an organization that is said to lead one to salvation, an organization who's failed prediction are known world-wide, it's unsound doctrine, it's determination to silence people who can't accept its lies - then we have filled our hearts with corruptible treasures on this earth; and those particular treasures have their part in Satan's scheme to mislead the anointed. (1 John 5:19)
Col 3:1,2 -  "Since you were brought back to life with Christ, focus on the things that are above—where Christ holds the honored position—the one next to God the Father on the heavenly throne. Keep your mind on things above, not on worldly things."
That's impossible to do, when an organization and its leadership has trained your eye to look into the worldly things for the the end-time fulfillment.  
 
 
 

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I do believe he understands more than you do.  You are an extrem aely intelligent person with one-track mind focused solely on the politics of the world and its sins, and not on the sins of God’s people.  
JWs sloppily apply Revelation to themselves only as innocent victims, never as irresponsible in following the commands of Christ. (Rev 2:14-16; 3:18) In light of the sins committed by the rulership of the Watchtower, WHY would God turn a blind eye to the actions of His anointed people under covenant?  He never has before. Only if you are blind to God's justice, would you believe He has.  
The “kings of the inhabited earth”…”kings of the earth”…are CHRIST’S KINGS. 
Rev 1:5 - and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.
They are the anointed kings who have been gathered over the years, by the False prophet, the Beast and the Dragon for the battle of Armageddon.  The "inhabited earth" is God's inhabited "land" in Spirit.  This is what Revelation is addressing - God's own people.  His spirit-inhabited "land" - "oikumen".  
Luke 8:5-8,15; Matt 13:38; Mark 4:20; 1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:20-22; James 1:21
Why are these demonic expressions related to frogs?  Looking at God's word, we see that frogs  plagued Egypt.  So the "kings of the earth"/anointed are plagued by symbolic frogs - and how do frogs develop?  Slowly, through stages.  The end result of a demonic expression developing in stages, is a full-fledged LIE, pouring (Rev 12:15) from the mouth of Satan, his ministers, and those whom they exercise authority over.  (2 Cor 11:13-15; Rev 13:11,12,1,2).   
We've witnessed any truth once taught in the organization, turn into a full-fledged lie. Take for instance the meaning of the Temple of God and who comprise it.  Since the exposure of the man of lawlessness being the Watchtower organization, it was necessary for your leaders to fine-tune their more recent doctrine, that ALL JWS are the Temple of God.  No! They comprise the Beast from the Sea - an idol.  (Rev 13:1)
God's anointed kings have been flooded with Wt's lies.  They are captivated by Wt's "empty philosophy" - and slaves to an idol. (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) They and all of you, must make the decision between truth in Jesus Christ and lies of false prophets.  Rev 3:18; Joel 3:14
Prov 12:17 - "Whoever speaks the truth declares what is right, but a false witness speaks deceit"
2 Chron 18:20-22 - "Then a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD, and said, 'I will entice him.' "The LORD asked him, 'How? '"So he said, 'I will go and become a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' "Then he said, 'You will entice him and also prevail. Go and do that.' "Now, you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit into the mouth of these prophets of yours, and the LORD has pronounced disaster against you."
Why does God allow this?  Why did He allow Job to be tested?
Luke 22:31 - And the Lord said, “Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat.
Satan is the accuser.  His target are the anointed MEMBERS OF CHRIST.  Just as Christ was tested, so also are the members of his Body.  
The harvest of the wheat and the weeds are of the "sons of the kingdom" - of the anointed.  (Matt 8:12; 13:38)  The "weeds" become the "sons of the wicked one".  One cannot serve God and be approved by Him when an anointed priest has convinced his hearers to follow falsehoods.  Can a JW distinguish a lie from truth?  Do they care to?  If they prefer the lie, God will give it to them.
Ezek 14:9,10 - "'But if the prophet is deceived and speaks a message, it was I, the LORD, who deceived that prophet. I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.  "They will bear their punishment -- the punishment of the one who inquires will be the same as that of the prophet."
2 Thess 2:9-11 - "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie"
Rev 18:4,5 “‘Come out of her, my people,’
    so that you will not share in her sins,
    so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
 for her sins are piled up to heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.
1 Tim 4:1 - The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Matt 24:24,25 -  For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect ("chosen").  See, I have told you ahead of time.
 
 
 
 
 
 

From what you said above, I see you did not understand at all what I was saying.  You have a one-track mind and that is OCD-hate.  I was talking about government propaganda.  Can you explain your understanding of the bible verses I quoted?  I am certain you have NO clue of its meaning. 
Well the "propaganda" that you hate is here.  Soon the flour and oil will be so expensive you will not be able to afford it.  Then you will think of the words of "propaganda" from the GB that you hate to much.  I do feel sorry for you because I do not wish what is coming even on the worst of the enemies of Jehovah.  But his has been predicted and now it is here!
"I heard what sounded like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart* of wheat for a de·narʹi·us*k and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.”
Russia and Ukraine have not planted sunflowers for oil in April this year.  Not only are they major exporters of wheat but also of oil..... 
 

Is Peter Carroll (PC) some pseudonym for “Politically Correct”?
Just because YOU have not seen some events happen does not mean that the rest of the people in that vast Arena of Life have not.
Truely, infinite variety.
For those who have been paying attention, and whose thinking doesn’t have “agenda blindness”, what PwfT said is general knowledge.
I have read in the publications how 8 year olds have been baptized, but memory is all I have to offer.
About 9 years or so ago this was discussed at great length here on the Archive.  
 
Here is an example: This is a security cam picture of my front yard taken in the dark, with infrared light. If you were standing next to the camera with your eyes wide open, you would not see this.
 
 

This is not a slight to you but I use it to raise a new thought:
Has anyone noticed how the media disparages anyone who does good research and brings the truth to others?  Wikipedia just writes the most liable things about people wherein the celebrity himself has no right to change anything..... even personal histories are changed.  Far lefties are suddenly called far-righters or conspiracy theorists.  The HIT-media is part of the world-wide retaliation-machine which has been put in place by the powers that rule the media at present; and any professor which displays  a little common sense, is a statistical guru, or prized virologist/geneticist, is no longer worthy of being an academic. Their stellar careers get marked by very nasty black spots - especially if they lost their tenure at a university due to gender politics or by speaking out.  Their successful career is maligned and the worth of the Nobel prizes etc. suddenly cancelled.
Although this so-called truth-faction, coming from a wide political spectrum, are not all religious -  they do try to dismantle the deceit and gaslighting going on throughout the world.  Some of them are older (they do not have families in the home and can speak out), and know that they may be targeted and have also accepted this inevitability..... due to the totalitarian way of thinking which is tightening its stranglehold on the world.
The orchestration of the false prophet and the wild beast seems to be world-wide and very efficient.   Revelation 16:  And I saw three unclean inspired expressions* that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14  They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty."
This propaganda was prophesied. Propaganda definition: propaganda is the dissemination of information—facts, arguments, rumors, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion. I may add that people may soon end up hurting themselves or even their loved ones when they are zealously following instructions via the propaganda.  (Germany's government propaganda during ww2 is a good example of creating good zealots).
While the reliable signs given by Jehovah are now going into fulfillment in the world (such as pestilences, untimely deaths, hunger soon to appear in great scope, King of the North, and the UN trying to get world-controlling documents drawn up and ratified); these signs are giving us an indication where we are in the stream of time (if we watch for them).
The false prophet is also busy with his signs. The false prophet is leading us all mesmerized along with their lab-manufactured problems, massive fear-inducing propaganda, together with an unending list of solutions which have already been deliberated on by those who will soon become the 10 new kings together with the UN; constantly creating new diversions so that the populous cannot get time to think straight; and the atheist prophets of scientism can get their transhuman agenda into play.
What I find fascinating, is the propaganda...... they are managing it extremely well through the appointed  counter media or managed opposition - (algorithms watching every new trend or truth being discovered) - and writing new hit-news  pieces with half-truths which debunk the lies with more half-lies. They use written and visual aids to great effect.  Soon they will be able to cancel-kill all dissenting voices by cancelling all documents which expose the truth. The world will truly be in darkness then- Satan's darkness where no light of any truth will shine through. 
The implication of this is that people could be rounded up for prison or any other nefarious reason and media will be managed by the "state". No news of this will leak out or will be downplayed as "conspiracy"-theory.
What the above definition does not say is that governments usually do the propaganda.  In USA an amendment was passed in 2012 which allows propaganda by the federal government..... and since the end of last year, the government and the UN has appointed various media organizations to remove anything they deem mis-information.  At present they are managing it, but here is the scary part: citizens which go against the LGBTQ agenda now taught in schools to very young children, their names are put on a 'terrorist' list.   
In fact, Governments have done propaganda just about forever because they have had the money and the cooperating educated class to do it. Jesus's death was instigated by a small group of ruling class people (Sanhedrin) who managed, by collusion or conspiracy, to arrest Jesus and sway public opinion ... they could even have planted a few agitators in the crowd as modern propagandists do. 
The "dragon's" propaganda has been excellent in its dividing of humans.  The BLM movement, post-modern philosophy and the rewriting of history has filled many unsuspecting people with hate for others with a different color or worldview;  the publicity about the fakeness of the bible and its historicity is everywhere; the book of Enoch and the anunnaki now has a large following which is basically a form of demon worship.  The belief in aliens is skyrocketing .....due to the belief that the anunnaki were aliens;  as is, the new religion of scientism and the idea that one can live forever in a computer algorithm. 

Um racist. I'll leave it at that. 

Why confused @Pudgy ?    Membership is counted on Report slips put in, and parents put in Report slips for children of 5 years old upward, or possibly younger.  Some families have 5 children, so including two adults that is 7 report slips per family.  That is how the numbers are made up. Adults leave the Org so they now have to count all the children to pretend that numbers haven't decreased. 
And Children of 5 or 6 are being baptised into the JW org now. Even though they say they 'don't do child baptism'. 

I hope you can believe when I say that Acts 2:17,18 is already happening.  The promises you have given us, are reliable and true.  It will be “organized” according to God’s will. But I feel that for anyone passing through here, I need to explain the severity of the times we are in; which is contrary in content to what the Wt. believes. 
The Wt. must be taken down, because as you know, the anointed priesthood – those “living stones” of the Temple of God - have been trampled down and replaced. (Dan 8:13; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)   This is what the “man of lawlessness” predicted to appear in the last days, fully accomplishes.  (2 Thess 2:3,4 ) Elders “sit” in the Temple of God. They have symbolically “entered” God’s sanctuary as an “abomination standing in the holy place”. Matt 24:15,16.  They are “standing where they ought not”.  (Mark 13:14)  They are a massive army of spiritual “Gentiles”. When we perceive this, we are to flee the organization before its destruction. (Rev 18:4-8)  Revelation 11:1,2 says that the temple has been given over to these Gentiles, the “holy city” has been trampled.  This was written after the destruction of Jerusalem - it applies to our day – those who comprise “New Jerusalem”  (Gal 4:26)
2 Thess. 2 calls the abomination standing in the holy place of Matt 24:15,16,  the “man of lawlessness”.  (2 Thess 2:3)  Revelation 13:18 tells us its number – 666 – the number of a man.  It is describing the Beast from the Sea (Isa 57:20), the Beast that blasphemes the sanctuary of God, and makes war with the saints. (Rev 13: 5-7; 20:7-9)  By putting the pieces together, we see that the Wt. was formulated by Satan to make war with the remaining ones of the “woman’s seed”.  How?  Through a flood of lies.  (Rev 12:15,17)  The anointed are gathered together by Satan and the Beasts of Rev 13, for the war of the Great Day of God the Almighty. (Rev 16:13-16) No outside political entity can “gather” the saints/”kings of the earth” together for Armageddon, as Rev 16:14 tells us. They have already been gathered into the organization.   We have to remember that Satan takes us down through deceit, which is what the two Beast together, have accomplished.  (Dan 8:24; Rev 13:14; 19:20; 20:10)
The GB acts as ruling priests, yet all other anointed must not act in that capacity; the leadership has given that job to “Gentile” elders, who “represent the royal priesthood”. (Matt 24:48-51)  They have made Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul – all the apostles, out to be liars.   (Matt 28:16-20)
Paul said, “Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren?”  1 Cor 6:4,5
The Wt. tells the anointed that they will not be active priests until the Kingdom, so they use this excuse to replace them. "Gentile" elders become the active priests.  This is so twisted.   But these scriptures show us that in this life, they are to be the active priests and judges in the congregations, not “Gentile” elders who “represent” them.  (Mal 2:7)
Always, when God’s priesthood was replaced, or Gentiles entered the Temple, it was considered an abomination. (Ezek 44:6-9)  People who did so, died for their brazen actions. Korah’s rebellion and the loss of life that ensued, is a primary example.  (Exod 40:15; Num 3:10; 2 Chron 13:9; Num chapter 16)
 The anointed are the dwelling of God’s Holy Spirit.  That is not a small thing, yet the Wt makes sarcastic light of it by saying,
“Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope. They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.”  Es 2017, pg 58
1 Cor chapter 12, Rom 12:3-8 and Eph 4:11-16, say otherwise. How bold of them, to pull the humility card, yet honor “Gentiles” standing in the holy place.  God’s chosen people receive their praise from Him, and their guidance and instruction from their Master, Jesus Christ – not from mere, uninspired men.  (Rom 2:28,29)  Can you see how they have not only used deceptive, suggestive wording, but slandered  the Temple of God and God Himself, who is Spirit? (John 4:24)  They have committed a sin against the Holy Spirit, over and over again through their blasphemy against each “living stone”, the spiritual dwelling of God.
So although JWs here think that I am exalting myself somehow, by explaining the Temple of God and the transgressions against it by the Wt., it is their own blasphemy being committed against the Father and His Temple dwelling built on His Son, and blaspheming the chosen ones who reside right with them.  They refuse to consider the truth in God’s Word. They prefer the words of spiritual harlots. (Rev 18:7) They love their organization built on the elder body. (Rev 13:8)  
1 Cor 3:16,17 – “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone [a]defiles (destroys) the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”
How can the anointed hearts be destroyed, if not through the whole concept of the “abomination standing in the holy place”?  This is why the organization, and its leadership will be eliminated.  This abomination has become their idol, replacing God’s Temple.  (Rev 2:20; 13:15-17)
“Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. (Satan) 7 For the [d]mystery (“hidden truth”) of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”
JWs are blind; they refuse to see what the organization has accomplished in destroying God’s Temple. (Rev 3:18; 16:15) The truth about this abomination will open up and they will have to face what they are presently supporting, the true identity of the man of lawlessness.  (Rev 17:8)
Isa 63:18 – “Your holy people possessed Your sanctuary for a little while, Our adversaries have trampled it down.”
Dan 11:31 - "Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.”
Joel 1:13,15 - Put on [sackcloth] And mourn, you priests; Wail, you ministers of the altar! Come, spend the night in sackcloth, You ministers of my God, For the grain offering and the drink offering Have been withheld from the house of your God.
Woe for the day! For the day of the LORD is near, And it will come as destruction from the Almighty.
Rev 11:1-3  - Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city (“New Jerusalem”/Temple) underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
This is the prophesy being given today, to "Israel" and all with them.  Matt 10:23
Thus, Armageddon is not about the world of politics and religions primarily.  It involves the transgressions committed by God’s chosen people and against them, just as what has happened in the past.  But this transgression will be the last to ever occur.  Dan 7:11-14
The “signs” of the Temple being restored, and the priesthood submitting to refinement and repentance, is already happening, but will become clearer in these last days. 
Mal 3:1-5; Matt 17:11; Isa 14:1; Jer 30:18-22; Zech 8:23; 9:16; Zech 4:6,7; Rom 8:19-22; Isa 2:1-4
 

You have your dark glasses on. Your black attitude give you away.

I'm so far behind the times i'd never even heard of this.  And no i am not a member. 
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‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community.
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‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community.
Accountability and change has been achieved by the Say Sorry Team through a range of activities including: awareness, education, campaigns, public speaking, conferences, submissions to parliamentary inquiries, assisting with the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission, working with governmental and statutory authorities, advising law enforcement agencies, lobbying, legal action, and prosecutions.
For the past 12 years the team behind ‘Say Sorry’ have provided up-to-date factual and unique content to international law enforcement agencies, government departments, politicians, inquiries, royal commissions, law firms, and the media. We also provide non-legal advice for investigations, civil lawsuits, and prosecutions involving the Watch Tower Society and the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The ‘Say Sorry’ website was re-launched on 26 July 2018 to highlight our current work and to provide an information and news platform for those concerned about the activities of the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. The sole owner and administrator of the website is Steven Unthank.
The Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Final Report, published in December 2017, that the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia had a reported 1,800 child sexual abuse victim files[1] within a membership of 68,000. By contrast, the Catholic Church in Australia had a reported 4,444 child sexual abuse victim files[2] within a membership of 5.3 million.
The British Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Truth Project Thematic report (May 2019) on page 25 that “out of the sample of 1,697 participants, 133 reported that sexual abuse took place within a religious institution. In these cases, Church of England (28%) and Catholic institutions (25%) were most commonly cited, with Jehovah’s Witnesses (11%) the third most frequent.”[3]
It is also our hope that one day the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses will “say sorry” by acknowledge their errors and by adopting a culture of acting lawfully, ethically and in a socially responsible manner.
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Say Sorry wins long running courtroom battle against a ‘prolific’ and ‘unrelenting’ stalker
This was the heading of an email i received from Watchtower Documents ths morning. 
I have not reaserched this organisation and as such I am not promoting it, just putting it up here as information. 

I'm so far behind the times i'd never even heard of this.  And no i am not a member. 
https://saysorry.org/about/
SAYSORRY.ORG
About
‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community.
Accountability and change has been achieved by the Say Sorry Team through a range of activities including: awareness, education, campaigns, public speaking, conferences, submissions to parliamentary inquiries, assisting with the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission, working with governmental and statutory authorities, advising law enforcement agencies, lobbying, legal action, and prosecutions.
For the past 12 years the team behind ‘Say Sorry’ have provided up-to-date factual and unique content to international law enforcement agencies, government departments, politicians, inquiries, royal commissions, law firms, and the media. We also provide non-legal advice for investigations, civil lawsuits, and prosecutions involving the Watch Tower Society and the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The ‘Say Sorry’ website was re-launched on 26 July 2018 to highlight our current work and to provide an information and news platform for those concerned about the activities of the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. The sole owner and administrator of the website is Steven Unthank.
About
‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community.
Accountability and change has been achieved by the Say Sorry Team through a range of activities including: awareness, education, campaigns, public speaking, conferences, submissions to parliamentary inquiries, assisting with the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission, working with governmental and statutory authorities, advising law enforcement agencies, lobbying, legal action, and prosecutions.
For the past 12 years the team behind ‘Say Sorry’ have provided up-to-date factual and unique content to international law enforcement agencies, government departments, politicians, inquiries, royal commissions, law firms, and the media. We also provide non-legal advice for investigations, civil lawsuits, and prosecutions involving the Watch Tower Society and the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The ‘Say Sorry’ website was re-launched on 26 July 2018 to highlight our current work and to provide an information and news platform for those concerned about the activities of the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. The sole owner and administrator of the website is Steven Unthank.
The Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Final Report, published in December 2017, that the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia had a reported 1,800 child sexual abuse victim files[1] within a membership of 68,000. By contrast, the Catholic Church in Australia had a reported 4,444 child sexual abuse victim files[2] within a membership of 5.3 million.
The British Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Truth Project Thematic report (May 2019) on page 25 that “out of the sample of 1,697 participants, 133 reported that sexual abuse took place within a religious institution. In these cases, Church of England (28%) and Catholic institutions (25%) were most commonly cited, with Jehovah’s Witnesses (11%) the third most frequent.”[3]
It is also our hope that one day the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses will “say sorry” by acknowledge their errors and by adopting a culture of acting lawfully, ethically and in a socially responsible manner.
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Say Sorry wins long running courtroom battle against a ‘prolific’ and ‘unrelenting’ stalker
This was the heading of an email i received from Watchtower Documents ths morning. 
I have not reaserched this organisation and as such I am not promoting it, just putting it up here as information. 

Strange. i just an email this morning about this from Watchtower Documents. 

And probably one thind of them are UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE. 

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It is not at all ‘obvious.’ It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
okay, make that the 2nd stupidest. No one is shunned for lack of participation in the ministry.

I used to know a JW who saw bad motives in everything others did. She was hyper-critical.  It messed up her life.

Perhaps @Witness needs to go careful ? She may find herself at the end of Billy the Kids rope as i did. 
We have to be careful what we say about the GB don't we ? 

Perhaps @Witness needs to go careful ? She may find herself at the end of Billy the Kids rope as i did. 
We have to be careful what we say about the GB don't we ? 

Even more encouragement!!