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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Melinda Mills in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Who are these people?
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    From the Cartoon Network I understand that Caleb dropped out of High School and went to Bethel, and Sophia  is married to a Marine at Fort Bliss in ElPaso, Texas, and is expecting twins.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Why bother - if you hate them so much....  or is your hate-OC....... whatever,  uncontrollable.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    I think Wally is trying to tell us something about his racial persuasion …. I never gave it any thought before, but “methinks he doth protest too much”.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Yeah. Time to hit the repenting trail, methinks, and sin no more (or at least less).
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Nor is mine. It really isn’t. But then he dangles such a piece of low-hanging fruit…. Even so, I let most of them go.
    All things considered, that seems a very good choice. No wheels to drive a guy crazy there.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    …. and PwfT, It was NOT MY INTENT to insult you…. more of a lamentation that you are wasting two lives obsessed with things even you admit you can do nothing about.
    That is why God designed the human brain to forget past pain and circumstance.…. you go bat-crap crazy IF YOU DON’T.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Gimme a BREAK!
    I know everything that YOU know, PwfT, the only difference is that I put it in a proper perspective (… is this the hill you want to die on?). 
    If you have a wonderful wife, and it appears that you do, the “hill you want to die on” (in my opinion) would be to abandon all the completely useless crap that diverts your attention here, and enjoy your life to the fullest with her, in your pleasant surroundings and circumstances.
    ”Don’t let the sounds of your own wheels, make you crazy!”. - The Eagles.
    In all the years each of us have been here … not a single person has changed anyone else’s’ view one iota.
    Be happy …. If you want to.
    Get on with a REAL LIFE.
    Playing with words here with people that are not going to budge is a waste of what pitifully few hours you, and your wife have left.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Arauna in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    I read a lot of the rubbish on MSN online, but most of it has been about that strange old lady of 90 odd years old, here in the UK. Most boring. I try not to read about the Ukraine war as it's depressing and it's all part of this old system of things that is going down anyway. 
    I do of course do some Bible reading, from the BSB Bible, and i have spent some time reading the Watchtower Study articles from January to date, all online at JW org. 
    But if i am going to read, then I much prefer to sit in my rocking chair and re-read books by Derek Tangye. The life story of him and his wife giving up life in London to set up a small business in Cornwall. It was reading those books the first time that helped my wife and I decide to move our little family from the city of Bristol, to deepest Devon, in the countryside. 
    But of all things now,  the one thing I love to do is to sit in our garden and watch God's small creatures, the birds and bees, and to smell the flowers. I feel much closer to God and Yeshua when I'm amongst Their creations than i do sat in front of a computer reading things that i can do nothing about. And of course I give thanks in prayer to God for all his wonderful works. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    James you just show yourself as a lover of war and weapons. Just like dear old Billy the Kid. 
    Quite funny that you are allowed in the 'Closet' with the baptised JWs. All of them do not promote war , but you do. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    PwfT:
    The differences is that I am a reasonable, rational, reality-based heretic, and from all outward appearances you are a bat crap crazy apostate.
    Just a guess, but it appears to match the facts.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    This is why you don’t know anything. I dare say you don’t read much of anything else either.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Here is a somewhat similar analogy … your next door neighbor is mounting a fixed cannon into concrete, pointed directly at the middle of your house . Your neighbor has been mad at you for a very long time for real or imagined sins against him. It is crystal clear the only target is your house.
    if he fires the cannon, your family will be killed, and he will take your land.
    Do you have the moral right to preemptively  cross onto his property and destroy the cannon, and the operators?
    If a person threatens to kill me or mine, and a reasonable man would consider it a credible imminent threat, I would be wholly justified in killing him first, preemptively.
     
    What? …. You wait until he shoots you in the head to act? NO!
    If Ukraine REALLY WAS involved with developing biological and chemical warfare weapons, it is clear who the intended target would be … and in my opinion a Russian invasion of Ukraine would be justified ….. under these specific circumstances.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    “Any last words?” they asked the dodo at his hanging.
    ”Wow, how very political you guys are,” he said.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Your question in this form cannot be a counter-argument, but only an attempt to obstruct a reality that is ruthless towards WTJWorg. And that reality was created by GB and their scholars.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    JWs don't seem to get any persecution here in the UK. But then JWs are not God's people. People here in the UK have just learned to ignore the false predictions of the JWs. Therefore JWs have brought shame on YHWH and Yeshua. 
    If any religion gets trouble for hiding Child Sexual Abuse wthin their organsation, that is not persecution, it is well deserved conflict and questioning. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Ex-JWs are very different individuals. From activists to completely passive individuals. Some have become atheists or agnostics. They, all observed together, are not organized. Thus, as such, they could hardly be considered a united and organized "coalition" operating independently or under the auspices of an established religion or "Babylon the Great".
    Any organized religion, WTJWorg is certainly an organized organization, has a higher chance of becoming an “Organized Apostate Society” than some individuals.
    This is proved both by the examples of the Old Israeli Assembly and by the example of the First Christian Assembly. Both became Apostate Religions.
    So you really have nothing to brag about, nor to assign such “titles” to others.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    According to WTJWorg interpretations "false religion": 
    The Bible’s answer
     Babylon the Great, described in the book of Revelation, is the world’s collective body of false religions, which God rejects. * (Revelation 14:8; 17:5; 18:21) Although those religions differ in many respects, in one way or another they all lead people away from the worship of the true God, Jehovah.—Deuteronomy 4:35. ............ Babylon the Great is a religious entity, not a political or commercial one. - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
    Also:
    False religion still continued to flourish and function, as it had done in ancient Babylon, but in relation to Jehovah’s Witnesses, Babylon the Great had fallen in 1919. They were free from Babylonish restraint! - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1989320
    Two things are obvious from your publications. Religion, the "world's collective body", has nothing to do with political forces. Religion is subordinate to the UN and the "coalition of nations". According to your interpretation, JWs are beyond any spiritual or even literal reach of the wrong religion.  If the “collective religious body” has no power over you, then how could these ex-JWs have any role in “attacking” the JW ??
    Maybe it would be good to ask the authors of your publications what is the meaning of the words they wrote? Your victories in the courts of freedom of action speak in favor of the fact that “wrong religion” could never stop you. "False religion", or "apostates", does not have an armed army that will "surround" you in some future, alleged, attack ... at least that's how your video dramas at congresses and pictures in magazines are shown.
    Wordplay? Perhaps that is coming from WTJWorg, don't you think?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Is that your personal conclusion? It is based on what?
    I don’t remember your official literature giving such a description as you used it.
    So far, WTJWorg has been talking about political forces that will attack JW. Exclusively about political forces that are within the UN organization.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Well the JW org / Watchtower teachings are not truth thats for sure and their teachings have changed many times since the 1960's. So if a person believed what they learnt from the Watchtower in the 1960's they would need to reject it now according to the Watchtower teachings now. 
    How many teachings from the Watchtower have you had to reject from your first being a JW until now ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What factors were behind the rapid growth of Christianity in its first few centuries?   
    …. You are soooo transparently predictable … trying to denegrate others to exalt yourself.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in What factors were behind the rapid growth of Christianity in its first few centuries?   
    An insulting question deserves no answer.
    An answer is a courtesy … and you deserve none.
    You also presume things based on your warped imagination so as to exalt yourself by trying to denegrate others.
    This is the theme that follows every post you make.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Strange conclusion. The WTJWorg literature announces that you will be attacked by a "coalition of the nations" and not by "apostates".  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in I am reading: "Rutherford's Coup" by Rud Persson -- 600+ pages, and much too expensive!   
    About a week ago, and then yesterday, too, two different persons asked me some "legitimate" questions about things that were already said on this topic. I had hoped to turn the topic away from the book itself and just discuss more general issues about early Bible Student history.
    I also realize that a lot of false claims have been made. By not even trying to respond, it might give the impression that I agree with the false claims. I probably shouldn't feel this way, but somehow it just seems dishonest to start a discussion and then allow so many false statements to go without any comment.
    But WalterPrescott is correct that the particular book I brought up here is really mostly going over material that has been hashed and rehashed before. Nothing terribly new here, even if it's a pretty comprehensive and detailed historical review which can now be found in one place instead of going off to dozens of separate resources.
    So, I think my best compromise would be to go ahead and answer the questions that have come up both here and through PM's. Also, since some people are offended by the book, or its author, I will forget the book and just give an overview based on the same historical resources and evidence that we can all find, many of which have already been brought here and elsewhere on the forum over the last few years.
    I'm not saying I'll do this right away, but I will probably get around to starting it in several days.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Forced meeting times....a ask for help.   
    Was it wisdom from God, or men?  Did God decide that His anointed priesthood and Temple members (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) be replaced by "Gentile" "uncircumcised" men? (Rom 2:28,29)  Perhaps you can provide scriptures that supports such wisdom.  
    "My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. 6 Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.…"  1 Cor 2:5,6
    "But no one is to enter the house of the LORD except the priests and the ministering Levites; they may enter, for they are holy. And all the people are to keep the command of the LORD."  2 Chron 23:6
    "So you shall appoint Aaron and his sons that they may *keep their priesthood, but the *layman who comes near shall be put to death."  Num 3:10
    Whenever men or idols found their way into the "holy place", it was called an abomination, a disgusting thing.   (Ezek 8:6; Dan 12:11; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)  God was never pleased when His Temple was defiled.  (Ezek 44:6-9)
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