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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Matthew9969 in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Why would Jehovah send the holy spirit to an organization that would reject him like the govern body has?
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from César Chávez in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Not really. Somewhere down the line watchtower got mixed up in thinking their organization can offer the same salvation as Jesus Christ. According to the Bible, it’s only Jesus Christ who can save. “Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone” Acts 4:12 [CEV]
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Not really. Somewhere down the line watchtower got mixed up in thinking their organization can offer the same salvation as Jesus Christ. According to the Bible, it’s only Jesus Christ who can save. “Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone” Acts 4:12 [CEV]
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from César Chávez in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    The Watchtower teaches:
    "Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
    According to Watchtower doctrine, this means all those disfellowshipped by the elder body and announced from the platform as “no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, would ultimately be sentenced to death stripping any future prospect of life for that person. In effect, the elder body actually believe they have the right to “save your soul”.
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Witness in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Not really. Somewhere down the line watchtower got mixed up in thinking their organization can offer the same salvation as Jesus Christ. According to the Bible, it’s only Jesus Christ who can save. “Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone” Acts 4:12 [CEV]
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Witness in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    The Watchtower teaches:
    "Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
    According to Watchtower doctrine, this means all those disfellowshipped by the elder body and announced from the platform as “no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, would ultimately be sentenced to death stripping any future prospect of life for that person. In effect, the elder body actually believe they have the right to “save your soul”.
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to TrueTomHarley in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Sure. Maybe God will prove to be a soft touch. He sure did with Nineveh. All you had to do is not know your left hand from your right and there are many here that meet those qualifications. Plus, there are some who are dumber than domestic animals, fulfilling the second portion of the verse. Still, I see no reason to take any chances and not hang out in the place of known safety.
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Not really. Somewhere down the line watchtower got mixed up in thinking their organization can offer the same salvation as Jesus Christ. According to the Bible, it’s only Jesus Christ who can save. “Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone” Acts 4:12 [CEV]
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to xero in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Not necessarily. The WTBTS understands the former point correctly, however they're not dogmatic about whom might be in each group.
    "...I could be arguing in my spare time"
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    The Watchtower teaches:
    "Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
    According to Watchtower doctrine, this means all those disfellowshipped by the elder body and announced from the platform as “no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, would ultimately be sentenced to death stripping any future prospect of life for that person. In effect, the elder body actually believe they have the right to “save your soul”.
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    I can feel the HATE coming from you through your words.  The whole of that comment is sick. 
    I did something better. I left the JW Org because of all the immorality and CSA they were trying to hide, and then I did, and still do, my own Bible studying and prayer to God through Christ. And I warn people about the dangers of the JW Org. However i also give people information about Almighty God and Christ, and about the coming judgement of every individual on Earth.  And I suggest to people that once they have the information that it would be good for them to read God's written word. I also make it known that once a person has the true knowledge, then it is their own responsibility to start to serve God as best they can.  
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Very good article and so is the following one.  It was nice to read simple truth without hype. 
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    🙂  I hated that sound when I was a kid.  But the sound of false prophesy and false teachings are even worse in my ears. It is either tolerated, or not heard – not recognized as scripture defines it; or, it is rejected and proclaimed verbally why it is rejected.  (Deut 18:20-22)  (Isa 58:1; Rev 8:13)
    What you say, reminds me of Isa 30:
    “What sorrow awaits my rebellious children,”
        says the Lord.
    “You make plans that are contrary to mine.
        You make alliances not directed by my Spirit,
        thus piling up your sins.
    Now go and write down these words.
        Write them in a book.
    They will stand until the end of time
        as a witness
    9 that these people are stubborn rebels
        who refuse to pay attention to the Lord’s instructions.
    10 They tell the seers,
        “Stop seeing visions!”
    They tell the prophets,
        “Don’t tell us what is right.
    Tell us nice things.
        Tell us lies.
    11 Forget all this gloom.
        Get off your narrow path.
    Stop telling us about your
        ‘Holy One of Israel.’”  Isa 30:1,8-11
     
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    So, this outwitting continues, it seems.
    Two quotes from Daniel have their context. Is Babylon a forerunner of WTJWorg?
    Should the quote from John mean that WTJWorg gets power from Satan?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    People leave the organization because of its sins.  Where do the scriptures validate their disfellowshipping? They certainly do not need to repent for leaving a sin-filled organization.  They should repent for their time spent there. ( James 4:4) Remember also , what has been said by the organization concerning disfellowshipping? 
    Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof. w52 11/15 p. 703
    Disfellowshipping is a spiritual killing.  The person who wrote this and the leadership who approved of this, condone the heartfelt act of killing, which is judgment made by men.  They believe they have the power given by God to judge another as deserving or not, of eternal life.  Rev 13:15
    The proof is how JWs treat disfellowshipped people, all those disfellowshipped whether they have committed a sin or not.  Yet, even if their heart is repentant for sinning, they may wait for months to be reinstated at the approval of men. 
    As Jesus said to the Pharisees who wanted the woman stoned for adultery, “Whoever hasn’t sinned should throw the first stone.”  John 8:7
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    1) Is God using this/or that organization, like I might use a stick to get some crap off my nikes after a trail run, after which I have no use for the stick?
    Weird idea? Shows that God is monster.
    2) Does this organization assent that it is being used by Jehovah?
    If God somehow created "the organization" aka WTJWorg, what do you mean with this question? "Clay" is not asked what it (clay) wants to be.
    3) Does this organization have Jehovah's approval?
    You ask wrong person. Ask God for that answer.
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to xero in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Last question answered 1st. Yes God uses secular organizations. He also uses religious organizations and families were designed by Jehovah as the base of organization. The questions YOU and we all need to answer are:
    Is God using this/or that organization, like I might use a stick to get some crap off my nikes after a trail run, after which I have no use for the stick?
    Does this organization assent that it is being used by Jehovah?
    Does this organization have Jehovah's approval?
    An organization or even a person can be USED by Jehovah AND that person may be approved by Jehovah or disapproved by him. Jehovah can use a person/organization like a Judo master might use the weight of his opponent against him.
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    So, the whole "world started spinning" in 1879 with the founding of WT? :)))
    ... internet source about game:
    Play starts when object is thrown into the air. Players may either snatch object out of the air or wait until it lands. If the object lands, the person closest to it MUST pick it up. (Group will use judgement, or someone who wants it can just pick it up.) Once a player is in posession of the object, they try not to get tackled. Once tackled, the object is thrown into the air (or at a particular person) and the game starts over. Play usually ends when everyone is tired or when someone gets hurt.
    Play usually ends when everyone is tired or when someone gets hurt.
    Good lesson! Good message! :))
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Give me a minute please. ..... In the past He had contacts with individuals, families, tribes, the people of the Jews. I don’t remember any biblical account that he used something that/like we call “organization” today. Of course, an individual can be organized. The family can be organized. The people can be organized.
    In conclusion, I can say that God can use anything he wants to do his will. Does God use "the organization" to which the JWs belong from 1879/1935?
    How about a counter-question? Does God use secular organizations?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    No, he presented doctrine of "light" that will shine more and more with every day, year and decade :))))
    ....and WTJWorg introduced that theory of "new light" years after, ....and advanced it to such an extent that it brought it to the status of a doctrine. The doctrines, according to which it is possible to declare previous false teachings as a "divinely guided" way of reaching the " increasing new light", without declaring the "old light"  to be a lie.
    By the way, Bible has not words such "New Light". So, words that are not in the Bible, not supports doctrine like this :))) 
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to xero in DF'ed for gluttony?   
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Isabella in Child abuse survivor slams government’s 8-year extension of national redress scheme deadline   
    The federal government has given institutions named and shamed in the royal commission into child sexual abuse an extra eight years to sign up to the national redress scheme.
    It is the second time the deadline has been extended, this time until 2028, a transcript of the parliamentary inquiry into the operation of the scheme shows.
    An independent review of the scheme is due to be finished by the end of February which should canvass issues that include further ways to ensure institutions join the scheme.
    Of the 158 institutions mentioned at the royal commission, three have not flagged their intention to join.
    A further 16 have said they are intending to join but have not yet signed up, and there are 11 institutions that have been assessed as “unable to meet the legislative requirements”.
    The Jehovah’s Witnesses is the only national organisation to declare they will not be joining.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses abuse survivor and advocate Lara Kaput said it felt like the government was “buying themselves time” while they decide how to handle institutions who have not signed up.
    “There is no clear government strategy to make the Jehovah’s Witness leaders accountable that has been shared with survivors,” she said.
    Full article: https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2021/02/07/national-redress-child-abuse-extension/
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