Arauna

Apologies dear - no prob. I just butted in that we are not pacifist..... lol. Did not mean to mess up thread. To understand the randsom sacrifice is crucial - that jesus gave his soul in death for 3 days. Not love but self-sacrificing love as set in the example of jesus. If I love you more than myself (prepared to give my life) and you live me more than yourself (prepared to give your life) the world will be a different place. Alas ! We will all show this kind of love completely under futurekingdom of Christ.

Don't agree. We are ambassadors or emissaries for the kingdom of Jehovah under Jesus. What does an emissary do? He is 'Actively' promoting his own government and loyal to his own government while remaining neutral in the affairs of the foreign government. We are active, very active doing ambassadorial work - not passive.

Good point. I also read an article written after Hawkins' death wherein he also "debunked" string theory by indicating mathematically that 23 universes are not possible. Let me make it clear to all visitors here: my "faith" that God exists is not a blind faith but a faith based on evidence. Evidence in the magnificence of creation in the infinite number of small wonders and the cosmos out there. As I said before: I have studied the intrinsic logic of the main theme of the bible for its cohesion and continuity. I believe the bible is the only reality which is still ongoing. I studied it in the light of project management principles and even did a risk assessment of the entire globe. This is when I started to look at certain political developments in the world in certain sectors to determine where we are in the stream of time........and where we are heading. As truetom Harley indicated earlier - even non-Christians admit to irreconcileable problems/hate in the secular political system.... it is not just in USA. It is everywhere! The less than one persent of people in the West who own the money of the world (they own all the major corporations, press and surveillance capabilities) see one world system as the only solution to create "peace and security" for its inhabitants. We are already in the transformation stage of the process....... these people see China as the model to follow..... Stick to Jehovah through the difficult times. Atheists, who are humanist, will believe the UN when they bring in one set of laws /values for everyone and persecute those who do not conform. Atheists will conform to save their necks but will not have the favour of jehovah when it all falls apart. And fall apart it will because humans were not made to rule themselves. The propaganda is doing its job - leading to Armageddon...... it is discrediting all witnesses in every possible way and promoting atheism.

I get a summary from all the newest papers in research in my inbox every day...... regarding evolution, cosmology, medical, textile, material discoveries, paleontology etc. I do not read all off them but pick what I want to read. Same old OCD when you do not have an answer. Unfortunately for you - it comes from a book called "devils delusion" written by a prominent philosopher and mathematician. He is agnostic. When asked why he wrote against evolution he said: Because I can...... He also got sick and tired of evolutionists pretending to have all the answers....... when evolution is more of a religion than science - hiding true evidence and extrapolating on issues which can possibly improve their stance. The real truth is: the math does not add up in evolution "theory". And I already know your OCD answer us going to kick in..... about now.....

Bingo! You latch onto one idea and ignore the point of learnt behaviour....... you suddenly become clairvoyant about the future ...... You are making it a rule - what if there is a possibility that exeptions can become the rule. What if humans provided animals with what they needed and they did not learn from their mothers to hunt? Could behaviour change? And since you are such a proponent of micro evolution, could the animals not adapt (macro evolution) to survive? It seems that every word on this forum is labelled "rediculous" when your ideas (which have no thought behind them) are not adopted as absolute truth.

Now this is really a true case of OCD. Always a repetition of insults. You do not know what I have read and studied. .... I did answer your previous question. As usual you chose to ignore it. I indicated a flaw in your reasoning - that you only considered 2 hypothesis ...... when there actually could be three....... but you ignored it then.... and now bring it up as deflection from my question above...... which is the question about the hitting of the jackpot billions of times every second. And it poses a question....which needs to be answered.

Do you not see that is what evolution is : hypothesis...... more and more hypothesis to run away from the thought of intelligent design......... until its arguments become ridiculous? Do you not see that if aliens evolved in some other universe hypothetically they would have to travel here to seed here? This is the reason why string theory with its 23 universes came to be.....cosmologists are trying to run away from intelligent design. They want to create more universes where diversity could possibly create more opportunity for spontaneous life....... because they realize the math is not realistic for spontaneous life when one has only one universe.

Again you make assumptions - not very logical reasoning from you. I get my information from science magazines.

We ignore your dogmatic comment and go on to your idea that predators need to eat other creatures such as squid or plankton. This is true. But diet has nothing to do with the level of tameness of an animal or its co-existence with others. I have seen footage of animals which co-habit in the same home which were natural predators before. In Africa we have many examples of this. Not all animals are natural predators. Necessity and generations of "memory" is shared. Young leopards learn from their mothers how to hunt. Some learned behaviours can be unlearned. While I have seen a tiger kill a lion, I have also seen footage when a whole lot of different animals including tiger, lions etc. shared the same barn at night. Well I ignore insults and look for substance, which I am sad to say I have not yet had evidence of. Yes I do demand proof..... If you claim to be so logical and scientific then you must provide evidence...... You throw down the gauntlet and then make side-isues the main point ..... I already know what your next rejoinder is going to be - ------ so don't bother.

Too quick to call people names when you have no answer. ..... Please prove the flaw in the bottom statement I made..... I never saw the movie 'expelled' but saw the actual debate wherein Dawkins said that aliens seeded life on earth. This just proves that atheism is a religious cult because this is covered up by apologists

Arguments about capital letters - claiming it was calculated to mislead? Again an accusation about motives....

I can read two languages that have no capital letters at all! Arabic and Georgian (Sakartvelo).

I can take you a bet you are not really good at math - and do not really understand the mechanisms within the cell and mutation. If you really understood you would not make such a statement. You are forgiven. ... I suggest you investigate BOTH sides of the argument. You seem to be so cock-sure like your buddy Mr Dawkins.....you only have " faith" in what you believe because most evolutionists who are honest declare they are not sure either. I always watch Dawkins' debates with Christian philosophers and he has looked really silly on most of them- he is not really a deep thinker. This is why he now only goes on shows where he talks only with other atheists. The best he said was : life was seeded by aliens. I don't waste my time on people who already think they have all the answers. If you hit the jackpot more than 10 times in a row to have a BIg positive outcome (to win a million to get on top of the pile) - you will start to wonder if the system was rigged in your favour...... Now imagine - you hit the jackpot with every small mutation (millions every second) for 500 billion years...... You have my respect. A man should know when to do the right thing. Of course you would be of greater assistance if you did take on the responsibilities again.

Why I enjoyed your piece : it cclearly identifies the cantankerous way all darwinists act...... the religion seems to affect them this way. Mr Dawkins has embarrassed himself quite a lot since he became a celebrity for the cause...... I think the best video I saw of him is when he said that aliens seeded the earth. ..... in a discussion on the origins of life. ..

Loved your contribution above. The propaganda regarding the "religion of peace" hides its extreme and barbaric violence. True, JWs are the true religion of peace for refusing any political division in our ranks (not taking sides) or going to war to fight any of this system's battles. It is encouraging to be able to identify this nation on earth. I studied the "religion of peace" ...... most people in UK call it by this name now because one can get 2 years in prison for islamaphobia. One can mock a Christian, burn the bible, call jesus an adulterer and make funny pictures of him but do NOT hint at anything against the "religion of peace". Oh- I am comparing the injustice of the world in its bias treatment of JWs again in OCD way...... that will trigger Mr. JAH2......

This is Africa. Real UN soldiers rape African girls. The UN covers it up. Ever read about UN bad practices as an employer? Whistleblowers on UN are fired...... do not think they have human rights because it is UN.. The countries with worst human rights abuses chair the Human Rights commission.

In the name of fairness - (I know you said you do not care..).... but what this indicates is that the problem is everywhere where there are children. While JWs managed the problem better than most other institutions we nevertheless did fail some victims. People just judge too quickly and do not understand the complexities if dealing with this problem. In some families the mother does not believe her own children because the horror of it is too great! It is easy to only judge JWs and expect them to be absolutely perfect. Now, I do not really care if GB is inspired or not. Over the past few years my understanding of the scriptures has refined very much because I do the research and prepare for all my meetings. Their study program helps me.... We WILL face persecution during Armageddon..... so why will I not cooperate with GB? Whatever we do - if we belong to christ - we will face tribulation. Better to be with friends in jail (who can support me) than alone somewhere of my own choice. Experience has taught me that numbers work better for protection and cooperation always brings benefits.....

No, not all. Many sports organizations and institutions etc have closed down. But JWs will be accountable for every one.... because we will not close down and operate under a new name.....and it is fair for the victims. But as usual - the press will only single us out even though the injustice was not "planned" or tolerated. It is just an extremely sensitive issue and most people - even today - do not completely know how to cope with it because it can destroy families. Elders who deal with it are under severe strain.... but this is why an elder must excuse himself if he does not feel able to handle it. Luckily the new laws are in place which stipulate that this crime must be reported to the authorities - in most first world countries. So this takes pressure off them. There is nothing wrong with not having the full picture or making a mistake - GB and JWs are imperfect people after all. But I am absolutely sure that JWs understand the teachings of the bible, they do have a slave that is working hard on the preaching work and giving encouragement at the proper time. I am sure the bible is absolute reality and Jehovah has a nation on earth which comes from all nations and they do not learn war any more. They have unity because they do apply the bible principles that promote unity as a nation on earth. Are they perfect people? By no means.... ordinary people who try to stay faithful to Jehovah and the good and bad he set for us. We are NOT better than anyone else ...... just extremely blessed to be drawn by Jehovah and receive his spirit to remain in the truth. We cannot remain in the truth without his spirit. For a while they can but eventually the develop a bad attitude. Of course, a KGB agent can infiltrate JWs and become an alder........ but his motivation is similar to Judas Iscariot. He is paid by the government and supported by them. Jehova will judge him. Most of us are just simple people who honestly and unhypocritically try to serve Jehovah.... So we remain because Jehovah gives his spirit to us....... and where else can we go where there is one nation under Jehovah?.

Different situations were present in ancient times. i.e. Israelites were allowed to have a concubine for instance..... BUT Job was a good man because he was generous with his possessions and he was faithful to only one wife - even though se was a nagger - lol. Does this mean that Jehovah will judge these people by the standards set by Jesus of one wife only? Yes, the laws of justice, mercy, being honest are universal laws and will be in effect - no matter what the era or time period..... but some other considerations will also be taken into account. After all - Jehovah is perfect and he will judge perfectly. Unfortunately we do not judge perfectly. Some persons did things as a young stupid person and society still hold them accountable for their entire life and treats them like outcasts....Jehovah can read the heart and he knows. There are many situations where we cannot judge perfectly....

I do the same.. You will notice that I do have my own opinions on some things.... which comes from meditation...... . I will of course not go and teach this to others. I teach the basic core teachings to my studies and help them to appreciate that they must do self study for maturity... I also prepare them for their time as a witness when they will see that everyone is not perfect....... they may even bump their toe on a rock below the surface of the love-feasts.. Most new witnesses face a test with fellow witnesses after baptism - or a new congregations - it is inevitable..... just depends on how big the test is. I also help them to get life-skills as a witness. Some did not learn this while at home or had too many bumps in life. The qualities to survive and the attitudes that assist in cooperating with others and being kind and fitting in. The realit y is: we are social animals and want to fit in , be successful in the group and it is hard on some people- especially if one has some weird personality quirks..... Navigating life - no matter where you go - is hard. For us the workplace can be a specially hard because people expect us to be "better" than others...... when we are just ordinary people like everyone else..... The only difference is that we try to be faithful to god........ to the best of our very imperfect ability. Sometimes we must face ridicule for that...so as ordinary people we have to build up courage and work on our social skills to navigate out of difficult situations. I have a very friendly personality and stand out easily..... as a woman this is not always a good thing. So I have learnt to be smart and gauge the right time to say what I think. Last year I went to see two Arabic brothers and spoke to them about their attitudes towards women..... because Arabs have an inbred attitude which the truth does not completely correct.... years and years of training in a certain way is not just going to disappear. I waited for the right time and managed to do it successfully.... did they take my concerns to heart? I do not know.... but I seemed to do OK afterward. As I grew older I learnt to not keep quiet about my concerns....... but wait for a long time until the time is right and then talk. Every time I was successful, I grew in maturity. Now I help the young sisters to also grow strong and become pillars in the congregation.

Thank you for your good research. I admit - since I last looked at these things I have been looking at other subjects.... You are welcome to correct me where I err. My friend, this is only a wish these days - justice is becoming a thing for the rich only who can afford good lawyers and get off. An arabic word describes it perfectly THULM....... it means injustice but the consonants also stand for darkness. As moral darkness descends on this world I am afraid that suffering is going to escalate because injustice will prevail. I met an African woman in field service here who was trafficked to different countries because she did not keep quiet about the children taken by the United nations. She was working at a school when the UN came and said they will look after the children...... and took the teachers with them. A few days later she found the teachers in jail and the children missing. She kicked up a fuss and to quiet her down they took her into custody. They sent her to an Islamic country and told them she was a criminal, hoping she would be killed..... but instead, they listened to her story..... High-up organizations are involved even some of the American Charity foundations.

I can see by this statement that you have no clue about developments in the world. In next three years - China will become a threat......to patrol the seas with all the ports it has already acquired and still expanding..... and economic pushing going on as we speak. Their purpose? To control the wealth of the world. They are taking over all mining minerals and gold in Africa and the Asian Seas close to Australia. Also building the new silk road. Russia doing the same - expanding influence. Daniel 11:40 onward.... America has been sleeping while their all their intellectual property was stolen when they moved IT factories to China. China installing G5 technology in Europe for surveillance..... and the list goes on. The racial acrimony in USA is growing as is the political strife ( between clay and iron) daniel 2: 43,44. Some commentators call it the "new cold civil war" . The new anti-white sentiment is growing as is the anti-Christian, anti-patriarcal sentiment. The new aggressive feminism inspired by Frankfort School together with anti-western hate inspired by all the funding coming into USA by front organizations by countries like Qatar, China, and other Islamic extreme organizations which openly do business in USA...... because money is the God of USA. UN is already giving orders behind the scenes with agreements that were signed by 176 nations.......Agenda 21, Agenda 2030 and UN Migration Compact 2018. Another prophecy going into fulfillment which by the way, mommy WT identified as - UN or a coalition of nations - years ago. Things are moving ...... not exactly in timing as mommy WT organization predicted BUT as the bible predicted........ and you are the scoffer in this picture! So please go do some more delving into stuff written by mommy WT organization in 1879 - 1970...... and judge her by the inadequate laws and info she had then..... Please do waste your time on the past while the present is going by and you remain so busy delving into the rubbish mommy WT has long ago discarded and moved on....... Feed your hate ....and superiority....... it will get you a feeling of 'temporary' satisfaction (an adrenal buzz) for sure

Ha-ha. ....... Will they regret it? Time will tell. Tune in tomorrow for the next episode of "When truth died."

That is a caption for the photo!

It has- ( only the comment about the festival of Akito) but the other is about developments in our timeline. I think AlanF should do some deeper thinking... but I think he is incapable of that. He sees but does not see because he summarily dismisses it - if it does not fit his personal narrative.... too smart for his own good. Are you for real? Because you did nothing to expose him it has created such a hate and resentment in yourself which you have to live with... Now you are blaming those who did not know about it!