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  1. Watchtower is determined to get blood out of a turnip. http://dailypost.ng/2016/09/05/nigeria-one-poorest-countries-world-80m-living-poverty-line-un-report/
  2. In other words, the uninspired Governing Body who admits to erring in direction, who then in two-faced fashion goes on to blame Christ for not promising perfect food; is still your avenue of understanding scripture - and you believe it is from God, the Father of Jesus who didn't promise the GB perfect food. They can get away with what they do, because you choose to remain blind to it. I agree with them, they are uninspired, which means they have no Holy Spirit; and by scripture, show they are no longer part of Christ's vine. 1 John 4:13,6; 1 John 2:26,27; John 16:13; 15:4 You may want to see what God's word says, by reading the scriptures. Don’t be afraid of the “Controversial” post I made based on scripture.
  3. How can you have complete faith in Jesus, or God, when you center your faith in the "mountainlike organization"? Mark 11:22,23; Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8 The understanding of the threat of "'peace and security" is the same understanding as in Jeremiah's day. I have already commented on it.
  4. Firstly, where you "reside" in the organization is your false sense of spiritual "peace" and "security". I have said quite a bit already earlier, and in the post I directed you to. “So he answered me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by strength (of men) or by might (of men), but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord of Armies. Zech 4:7
  5. I understand Watchtower's teaching of the cry of "peace and security", I also understand what the Bible attributes it to. Looking at Satan's world for signs of "peace and security" and Armageddon, is just what he wants you to do. Not very deceptive is it? Matt 16:1-4 As I said earlier in response to Eoin, you can find my comment under "controversy".
  6. Yes, there can only be one correct argument. Are you including the Governing Body in this, since many here ascribe to the the GB's teaching that the cry of "peace and security" is found in the political world? “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves. You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So you’ll recognize them by their fruit." Matt 7:15-20 “Trees” represent the anointed ones; fruit is what they teach. Heb 13:15 If one teaches “bad fruit” it means that one is a false prophet. Any teachings that lead people in the wrong direction spiritually, is considered “bad fruit”; not “new light”. Eph 5:9; 1 Tim 6:20,21 “You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.” John 15:16 Losch said, “a lie is a falsehood that is deliberately presented as being true”. If this is the case, why are Watchtower’s changed doctrines called “new light” and “present truth”? If one chooses to reject the GB’s “bad fruit”, their high mindedness becomes quite apparent. As you say, “The Apostle Paul spoke about fruitless arguments that only are a result of ones showy display of what they think they know.” “The ax is already at the root of the trees. Therefore, every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. “ Matt 3:10
  7. I made a lengthy comment on this, and put it in Controversial - "Anointed and JW. org" - in case anyone is interested.
  8. Why do JWs believe the organization is sinless? Why do leaders and members alike, excuse failed prophesies as if they are nothing; and its failure at protecting the innocent victims as something to go to court over? Deut 18:20-22; 1 Cor 6:4-8 Why is it an unchallenged human decree to represent the “royal priesthood” by appointing men not anointed by God, who expect recognition of this presumed authority – over the authentic priesthood? Why do JWs believe God turns a blind eye to all of its sins; continuing to promote the organization as blessed by God? Jer 29:23; Ps 94:7 The answer is in Jeremiah. “The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?” Jer 5:31 “The coming of the lawless one is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders, and with every wicked deception among those who are perishing. They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe the lie, so that all will be condemned—those who did not believe the truth but delighted in unrighteousness. 2 Thess 2:2-12 “My people are fools; they do not know me. They are senseless children; they have no understanding. They are skilled in doing evil; they know not how to do good.” Jer 4:22 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the Lord, what kind of wisdom do they have? Jer 8:8,9 Those harsh words in Jeremiah’s time, apply today and something that JWs should take notice of, since we know the outcome of the lives of God’s people in Jeremiah’s day. While pointing the finger at Christendom as the recipients of God’s wrath, (which he will judge in righteousness) disaster stands at the doorstep where God’s anointed ones are gathered (Rev 16:12-16)….as well as scattered among the nations. (Joel 3:2; Jer 23:1,2; 30:11) Wt 16/01 “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study.” According to scripture they are to seek out others, working together under their Head; but the unity of the organization’s spirit-directed “image” takes precedence, as well as the wishes of a “wicked slave”. Col 1:18; Eph 5:23,26,27,30-32; 1 Pet 4:10; 1 Cor 12:24-26; Rev 13:15,16,7,8; Matt 24:48-51 “Instead, God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the less honorable, so that there would be no division in the body, but that the members would have the same concern for each other.” (all of 1 Cor Chapter 12) This Body is the anointed Temple “Bride”, built on Christ, not the entirety of believers. John 2:19-21; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 2 Cor 6:16; Rev 3;12 “They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.” Tell that to the foundation of the Temple; the anointed apostles who had prophets and teachers among them. The Body, the Temple members, have only grown since Christ with the individual roles still as Paul taught. No man can make the claim that there are no other prophets or teachers since the apostles. No anointed one who remains in Christ would say such spurious words. 1 John 2:20;1 Cor 10:17;12:28-31; Eph 4:11,12; Rev 11:1-3; 1 John 2:19 The Watchtower’s words are defiant, sarcastic, slanderous and hypocritical; sourced from the mouth of a “superior”, “elite” GB who expect obedience to them, and their elder “muscle”– and not the Head of the Body, Christ. 1 Cor 4:8; Rev 16:13,14 I wish you could see this, JWs. I wish you could comprehend what is happening to God’s anointed ones in the organization. I wish you cared enough to learn what the importance of the anointed Body of Christ means to those desiring the Kingdom. Matt 10:40-42; 25:34-36; Rev 21:9; 22:17 The irony in all of this; the organization would be no different from any other religion if the anointed were not part of it. Truly, they are held hostage as a unique treasure to be manipulated and dominated by men, a repeat of history. Isa 49:24-26; Luke 21:24; Col 2:8; Isa 42:22; Rev 13:10 Rev 16:4,5 “The third poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of water, and they became blood. 5 I heard the angel of the waters say, “You are just, the Holy One, who is and who was, because you have passed judgment on these things. 6 Because they poured out the blood of the saints and the prophets, you have given them blood to drink; they deserve it! Who is responsible for pouring out the blood of the saints and the prophets? In Jesus’ day: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous, 30 and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we wouldn’t have taken part with them in shedding the prophets’ blood.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors’ sins! Matt 23:29-32 To the Pharisees, Jesus said, "So all the righteous blood shed on the earth will be charged to you, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Matt 23:35 God’s people were responsible for this shedding of righteous blood. Rev 19:8 “Israel” today - the “descendants” - are described in 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Isa 43:21,10 They are the anointed ones, with the GB ruling over them, and who testify that they are God’s people. Are those held accountable for shedding blood no longer God’s people when Jesus left the earth? Is Christendom involved in shedding the blood of the “saints” and “prophets”, as the Watchtower teaches? "This is why I am sending you prophets, sages, and scribes. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.” Matt 23:34 "Truly I tell you, all these things will come on this generation. Matt 23:36 “This generation” continues down to this day. Once again, God’s people face a “Babylon”; and it is the wicked generation among God’s people under the “Babylonian” covenant, (Isa 28:14,15) who are responsible for pouring out the blood of the saints and the prophets today – not Christendom! In her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all those slaughtered on the earth”. Rev 18:24 “earth” – Greek for “inhabited home” and that home is God’s dwelling in the anointed hearts. John 14:23; Acts 7:48-50; Matt 23:37; Luke 13:33; Matt 5:34,35 Are there no prophets and saints today to “kill”? - Acts 2:17; Rev 11:1-4; 13:10,15 Who has authorized the disfellowshipping of those anointed who choose to follow Christ as scriptures indicate? ( John 8:12; 10:27; Luke 9:23) Of course, the false prophet/GB authorizes a false priesthood/elder body to do so. All JWs know, once disfellowshipped, the person is considered spiritually “dead”. Spiritual “Jerusalem” is where God’s dwelling/sanctuary exists, which is in the hearts of the anointed ones. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Ezek 11:19; Jer 31:33; Rev 17:14,15 In like manner as Jerusalem’s Pharisees killing Christ, the false prophets are condoning the “killing” of any anointed one who speaks TRUTH in Christ, and who reject their words and headship when acknowledging who their spiritual Head rightly is, Jesus Christ. Jer 50:33 “You who tremble at his word, hear the word of the LORD: "Your brothers who hate and exclude you for my name's sake have said, 'Let the LORD be glorified so that we can see your joy! ' But they will be put to shame." Isa 66:5 “Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you, insult you, and slander your name as evil because of the Son of Man.” – NOT for being a JW! Luke 6:22 "They will ban (“excommunicate”) you from the synagogues (from G4864, “congregation”. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering service to God. John 16:2 Throughout the ages, God’s anointed ones have suffered under religious and political rule; but in the time of the end, the fourth beast of Daniel and Revelation attacks God’s people in a very similar but symbolic way to Jeremiah’s time. Dan 7:7; Rev 13:1 In his day, idols were erected in the temple; today, a composite man of lawlessness stands over God’s chosen priesthood; thus, it sits in, God’s Temple/priesthood comprising an organizational regime – an “image” of an idol. Jer 2:5; 7:30; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Matt 24:15; Rev 11:1,2; 13:6,18 A “mountainlike” “high place” as “spirit-directed” replaces the true Heavenly Mount Zion/ “Jerusalem”; again, found within the anointed ones. Jer 7:9,31; 4:31; 6:23; Rev 8:8,9; Zech 4:7; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Gal 4:26; Heb 12:22 Jeremiah’s people believed, just as the organization does, that Jerusalem was safe from destruction. Jer 7:9-11 “And I replied, "Oh no, Lord GOD! The prophets are telling them, 'You won't see sword or suffer famine. I will certainly give you lasting peace in this place.' " But the LORD said to me, "These prophets are prophesying a lie in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a false vision, worthless divination, the deceit of their own minds. (“this generation”,”Beliefs Clarified”, should I list the dates? Ezek 13:10) Jer 14:13,14 Jeremiah spoke of a destroying northern army, to come upon Israel; believed to be not only from Babylon, but a “Scythian” invasion. Today, the “man of lawlessness” 2 Thess 2:1-4,8; Dan 8:11,12,24,25 “Beast from the Sea” Rev 13:1,2,4-7 the “northerner” Locust/scorpions released by “Wormwood” Rev 9:1-12; Joel chapter 1; Joel 2:25 the “Gentile” Elder Body IS the descriptive destroying force that is accomplishing Satan’s purpose, eliminating the power of the “holy ones” which is the desecration of God’s Temple spoken of in Dan 12:7; 11:31,33. The cry of “peace and security” was made by false prophets then: They have treated the brokenness of my dearpeople superficially, claiming, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they acted so detestably? They weren’t at all ashamed. They can no longer feel humiliation. Therefore, they will fall among the fallen. When I punish them, they will collapse,” says the Lord. Jer 8:11,12 And now. Spiritual safety is taught to be achieved only through the organization. "Still, as a people, “the chosen ones” and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate Christendom by taking refuge in Jehovah and his mountainlike organization." "We find refuge today in the spiritual security enjoyed by God’s people as a whole." "Through “the faithful and discreet slave” and elders in the congregation, we are alerted to trends in the world that could endanger that security." (w11 1/15 pp. 3-7) Wormwood, a “bitter root”, was promised to those in Jeremiah’s time, “for from the prophets of Jerusalem ungodliness has spread throughout the land.” Jer 23:15; Lam 3:15 Again, a false prophet/Wormwood – anointed who become the “bitter root” (Deut 29:18; Heb 12:15) -- poisons a symbolic “one third” of the waters (teachings/people) with lies. Rev 8:10,11; Rev 9:1-4,11;13:10-12; 17:5,15,18 God allows Satan to manipulate this deception, where the “wheat” and the “weeds” grow together until the harvest. Luke 22:31; Matt 13:30; 1 Pet 4:17; 2 Thess 2:1-12 The anointed and brethren are caught between two ‘tribulating’ decisions - to listen to Christ’s call through his final messengers who were “killed” by the Beast and symbolically revived, joining them in proclaiming the restoration of the Temple (Mal 2:1,2; 3:1-4; Mark 13:9-11; Rev 11:1-4,7,11) …or, to continue listening to the prophets who give false comfort and “speak visions of their own mind, not from the Lord’s mouth”. Jer 23:16; Rev 13:8,4,3 There were two prophets giving conflicting reports in Jeremiah’s day. “The prophet Hananiah then took the yoke bar from the neck of the prophet Jeremiah and broke it. In the presence of all the people Hananiah proclaimed, “This is what the Lord says: ‘In this way, within two years I will break the yoke of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon from the neck of all the nations.’” “I have broken the yoke of the king of Babylon. Within two years I will restore to this place all the articles of the LORD’s temple that King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon took from here and transported to Babylon.” Sound a little familiar? “In 1919, God’s people became free from false religion, that is, Babylon the Great”. ws13 2/15 pp. 15-19 “The facts show, however, that in the decades leading up to World War I, God’s anointed servants were actually breaking free from Babylon the Great, not becoming enslaved to it.” w16 November pp. 21-25 “The prophet Jeremiah said, “Amen! May the LORD do that. May the LORD make the words you have prophesied come true and may he restore the articles of the LORD’s temple and all the exiles from Babylon to this place! “Only listen to this message I am speaking in your hearing and in the hearing of all the people. “Go say to Hananiah, ‘This is what the Lord says: You broke a wooden yoke bar, but in its place you will make an iron yoke bar. For this is what the Lord of Armies, the God of Israel, says: I have put an iron yoke on the neck of all these nations that they might serve King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, and they will serve him. I have even put the wild animals under him.’” (Rev 13:11,15-18; 1-8) “Listen, Hananiah! The Lord did not send you, but you have led these people to trust in a lie. Therefore, this is what the Lord says: ‘I am about to send you off the face of the earth. You will die this year because you have preached rebellion against the Lord.’” And the prophet Hananiah died that year in the seventh month. Jer chapter 28 Of the two prophets, the message of “peace and security” was the favored one. Rev 18:4-8 is addressing God’s people who are presently within “Babylon the Great”, the “Mother of Harlots” who is “drunk with the blood of the saints”; and where her harlot daughters/false prophet/Beast from the earth/GB, speaks delusion of a “spiritual paradise” - “peace and security”. Rev 16:13; 17:5-7 Will JWs listen and discern from scripture what is coming? The “locust/scorpion army” will soon bring down the Harlot’s present daughters; the false prophets of the Watchtower. Rev 17:15-18; Jer 50:9,44 The organization will follow. Rev 19:20 Jer 29:19,18; 50:28; Mal 3:1;Matt 17:3,11; Rev 16:12;11:3,4
  9. The Bible tells us that Jesus began his rule in the midst of his enemies in the first Century (Ps.110:1,2; 1Pet.3:22; Matt.28:18;1Cor.15:25,24; Eph.1:20,21,22,23). Jesus already became king for a "thousand years", back then...(John18:33,36,37; Matt.21:1,2,3,4,5; Luke17:21). Revelation is symbolic [Rev.1:1 (see Greek); Matt.13:34,35], and this "thousand years" is symbolic (Rev.20:6; Eph.2:6,10; 1:3). It represents 10X10X10, and means a complete witness regarding the truth (3X -2Cor.13:1)… to the existing world (10) of Satan (1John5:19). This "thousand year" kingdom (John18:37; 2Cor.5:20; 1Cor.4:1) is not the same as God's eternal Kingdom; which arrives when all of its administration of 144000 have been completely gathered and sealed (Eph.1:10,20,21,22). Christ's headship and kingdom is of a limited time, during which his "body" (bride) is being assembled (Rev.1:5,6; 19:16; Col.1:18;Ps.89:27; Heb.1:9,5,6; 2:16,5; Gen.28:14,12,13; Eph.1:22). In contrast, God's Kingdom is eternal. (Dan.2:44,34,35; 7:17,27; Luke1:33; 1Cor.15:24; Rev.11:15; Gen.28:14; Rom.4:13; Gal.3:29;Eze.37:25) Two basic facts derived from these scriptures, are that Christ's time-limited kingdom of a symbolic "thousand years", began in the first century. It ends when he hands it over to God, after all enemies of truth and life are conquered and judged... (Matt.25:45,46;John3:18,19; 1Thess.5:5; John12:48,36; Rev.20:12,4; 2Pet.3:7; Rev.11:5,3; Luke10:16; Deut.18:18; Eze.2:5; Rev.12:11;Luke10:19; 2Cor.10:4,5; Rev.19:11,14,8; 17:14) … and Christ's bride is completely collected together (Eph.1:10; 3:2; Rev.7:4; 14:1;Isa.2:3; Rev.21:2; Ps.110:2). In contrast to Christ's time-limited kingdom of servant kings and priests (symbolic "thousand years") (Rev.1:6,5; Rev.20:4,6;John5:24)... ...God's eternal kingdom does not begin until the entire administration of 144000 is sealed and installed. Neither began in 1914... obviously. Pearl Doxsey 4 woman in the wilderness
  10. What sort of face does deception wear? One that you will easily recognized? Perhaps you should go over the Watchtower stock portfolio to get a clearer picture of where the donations are going. Right. That is the determining factor of truth, what we visibly see sitting in Satan's world. You do realize that the GB flies business class? I wonder how Jesus would have traveled today, who had nowhere to lay his head.
  11. Hmmm, in my area, three large congregations share one building even though many years ago land was bought to build a hall which would accommodate those coming from the far end of the territory. The C. O. approved its purchase, even using a trailer to stay in on the property when visiting. But, thus far, what was thought to be a new kingdom hall in the process, was squelched. The existing hall was built by obtaining a loan locally many years ago (I believe in the 70's) ; yet, as we know, is no longer owned by the congregation. Easy to say - how far do you commute? A small hall in a very small town allowed for congregants to drive either from the south or from the east about 40 minutes to a meeting. That small hall was eliminated by an "elders'" decision and all are to now drive to a town to the NORTH another 45 miles from the old hall; which means, those coming from the south or east now drive almost an 1 1/2 hours to attend a meeting, if the weather is good enough to travel the rather desolate road. Isn't it the responsibility of a good shepherd to LOVE the sheep, accommodating to THEIR needs? Or, is it all money driven? A "collection plate" can come in all forms. “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God to the shepherds: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you slaughter the fatlings, but you do not feed the flock. The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them." Ezek 34:2-4
  12. Each name has a meaning behind it; my father’s surname reflects the type of work his ancestors did long ago. God changed the name of Abram (“Exalted Father”) – to Abraham (“Father of Many”) signifying his new appointed, divine role. Michael – “Who is Like God”. This is declaring a role Jesus reflects in Armageddon, as he battles the “Beast” of Rev 13 which believers in it proclaim, “Who is Like the Beast?” It is a battle over who takes authority over God’s people/anointed ones. 1 Thess 4:16 - For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout] with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. (Rev 1:10,12,13) The Beasts of Rev 13, who work in tandem, comes against “Michael” - “ At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress such as never has occurred since nations came into being until that time. But at that time all your people who are found written in the book will escape.” Dan 12:1 Escape what? The two Beasts, during the Great Tribulation/Armageddon. "Look, it will be like a lion coming from the thickets of the Jordan to the watered grazing land. I will chase Babylon away from her land in a flash. I will appoint whoever is chosen for her. (Rev 17:16,17) For who is like me? Who will issue me a summons? Who is the shepherd who can stand against me? " Jer 50:44 Rev 6:17 “He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.” Dan 8:24,25 (Rev 16:19,20) These Beasts are not found in Satan’s political world that Michael comes against. They are false shepherds who rule over God’s anointed and brethren. Rev 13: 5-7,11,12,14 “The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize (really?) that by following the lead of the Governing Body, they are in fact following their leader, Christ. Wt 9/15/2010” The anointed apostle Paul said, “Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.” Gal 1:10 Peter and the apostles replied, “We must obey God rather than people.” Acts 5:29 There are two connotations I can see in the meaning of “Who is Like God”. Nothing built within this world can compare itself to, or with, the Father; yet the Watchtower continually does by saying “Jehovah and/with the organization”. Isa 40:25 Jesus, the Head of the anointed Body of Christ and God’s Temple, (1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) and is the only comparison to God, that he will allow. Both of these are the basis for Armageddon; the restoration of God’s sovereignty; the restoration of God’s Temple/priesthood. 2 Cor 10:3-5
  13. For clarification's sake, I am not saying Christ did not die for all men. The Kingdom of God is open to anyone who choose to follow Christ and heed his teachings; but the establishment/administration of this Kingdom involves the anointed priesthood, who must be found with "no deceit", pure and blameless, in order to join their brethren who are God's Temple. Rev 14:5; Phil 1:2; 1 Cor 3:16,17 "For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men, and by their prayer for you, who long for you because of the exceeding grace of God in you. Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift! 2 Cor 9:12-15
  14. The significance of the Hebrew word “shalom” – “The relation between man and God is made complete; the disparity is removed: this is "shalom" = "peace." Jewish Encyclopedia “The webbing together of God, humans, and all creation in justice, fulfillment, and delight is what the Hebrew prophets call shalom. We call it peace but it means far more than mere peace of mind or a cease-fire between enemies. In the Bible, shalom means universal flourishing, wholeness and delight – a rich state of affairs in which natural needs are satisfied and natural gifts fruitfully employed, a state of affairs that inspires joyful wonder as its Creator and Savior opens doors and welcomes the creatures in whom he delights. Shalom, in other words, is the way things ought to be.” From “Shalom, The Real Utopia” Paul, a Hebrew, spoke in Hebrew on occasions, as well as Jesus speaking to him in Hebrew. Acts 21:40; 22:1,2; 2 Cor 11:2; 26:14 When he wrote 1 Thess 5:1-3, he was most likely referring to “shalom” in the Hebrew sense of the word. Strong’s G1515 for the Greek word, “peace” in 1 Thess 5 – “apparently from a primary verb eiro (to join)” “But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.” 1 Thess 5:1-3 Would Paul be concerned with Satan’s worldly interests abroad and its definition of peace and security? He is talking to his anointed (“elect”) brethren in Christ under the New Covenant promise. 1 Thess 2:1,2 This prophesy concerns the anointed today who represent the New “woman” covenant that Satan attacks in Revelation 12:1, a “woman” who is about to “give birth”. Rev 12:2-4 Once the New Covenant has given birth, God’s Kingdom arrives. JWs apply 1 Thess 5:1-3 to the world of politics, forgetting that the remnant of God’s anointed ones already reside under a (false) sense of “shalom” with God, through the organization. "Still, as a people, “the chosen ones” and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate Christendom by taking refuge in Jehovah and his mountainlike organization." "We find refuge today in the spiritual security enjoyed by God’s people as a whole." "Through “the faithful and discreet slave” and elders in the congregation, we are alerted to trends in the world that could endanger that security." (w11 1/15 pp. 3-7) These words are spoken confidently, as if salvation is guaranteed by staying with the organization – a “spiritual paradise”. The “labor pains” resound through each anointed “remaining ones of the woman’s seed” (Rev 12:17), when they awake to this fake aura of “peace and security” they live under. They “give birth” when they are sealed into the “heavens” and become evidence of the heavenly promise New Covenant. One’s name can be written “in heaven” while still on the earth, and once the required number of “144,000” is sealed, God’s Kingdom is born. Gal 4:19; Luke 10:20; Isa 4:3; Heb 12:23; Rev 12:10,11; 7:4 The cry of peace and security is the threatening climate Satan has fabricated to stop the birth of the Kingdom which is described in the book of Revelation of Jesus Christ, "which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place.” Rev 1:1 It affects them, not those in the world who don't have a part they play in the coming Kingdom; this is why Jesus said “For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.” All JWs appear to be “awake” by looking for the Kingdom to arrive from signs in Satan’s world; when in fact it “arrives” through the those who submit to suffering as Christ’s did, and accept refinement from Satan’s falsehoods. Matt 16:21-27; Mal 3:1-3; Rev 3:18,19;2:2-5;3:3; 2 Cor 11:2 To believe that Satan doesn’t infiltrate a system/government (with a “Governing” Body) within the systems of his world, is folly. He will use his own devices to create the cry of peace and security, all for the purpose of killing off those in Christ who are to be his Bride - the "priests and kings" with him, as well as any who also believe his deception. As JWs keep searching the horizon for fulfillment of 1 Thess 5, they will not see the well disguised trap called “peace and security” they presently reside in and where the rest of the “woman’s seed” have been gathered. Rev 20:8 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’ “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it?” Ezek 38:11,14 Amos 5:8
  15. Jesus replaced the early temple arrangement with his Body, built on the anointed apostles and prophets and “living stones” of the anointed ones who are spiritual “Israel”. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22 If there is a spiritual “Israel” (Rom 9:6; 2:28,29; Gal 6:15,16) there is also a Jerusalem – “New Jerusalem” and the first target of the Great Tribulation. "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.” Rev 7:1-4 The land, sea, tree, represent those with them, under the Wild Beast. (Isa 57:20) Matt 24:15 - “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand” The “holy place” is none other than God’s Temple. Check Strong’s concordance for G40; Bible use is “most holy thing, a saint”. Today’s Temple is the Body of Christ, comprised of the anointed ones/holy priesthood/ New Jerusalem under the New Covenant. 1 Cor 6:19,20; Gal 4:26,28 The “abomination” standing over, sitting in, the “holy place” is the elder body/ false priesthood. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Dan 8:13 “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” “Christendom” cannot be interpreted as being affected by this spiritual Great Tribulation, although Satan makes a good counterfeit fulfillment. It is the “city” of “Jerusalem” and the location of God’s Temple where the spiritual “tribulation” breaks out. The world has been judged during their lifetime (John 12:31); it is those in covenant with God who are severely disciplined for their actions, as they are allowed to be sifted by a “powerful delusion”. Ezek 14:21; Jer 34:17; Heb 12:7; 2 Sam 7:14; 1 Cor 11:32; Heb 12:11,5; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Luke 22:31; Rev 13:11,14-17 Rev 18:4-8 is speaking of those in covenant with God – “my people”, the anointed who are “gathered” already under the Wild Beast. “Every tribe, tongue and nation” listed in Rev 13:6-8 are those who also suffer under the Great Tribulation, once the anointed who have proven worthy and faithful, are sealed by refusing the “mark”/dedication, and accept only the mark of God. Rev 9:4; 14:1 The Great Tribulation is here on the “city that is called by my name”, “New Jerusalem” Jer 25:27-38 “Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes." Matt 10:21-23 The Wild Beast "kills" those who refuse its mark. The organization spiritually "kills" those who refuse to be dedicated to an organization; and who suffer as Christ did, at the hands of their own people. Rev 13:15; 11:7; 12:17,11; Matt 5:11,12
  16. Lies, deceit and excuses all in one Watchtower article? Yes. Satan’s fascinating deceptions can be discerned clearly, if we truly yearn to know truth. Korah, Moses and Aaron were all Levites; they were cousins, whose fathers were brothers. The Levitical lineage were people designated to serve God in various roles, separated into three divisions according to the three sons of Levi: Gershon, Kohath and Merari. Gen 46:11. Moses, Aaron, Miriam and Korah were all grandchildren of Kohath. To the Kohathites”, stemming from Kohath, God said, “Bring the tribe of Levi and present them to Aaron the priest to assist him. They are to perform duties for him and for the whole community at the tent of meeting by doing the work of the tabernacle. They are to take care of all the furnishings of the tent of meeting, fulfilling the obligations of the Israelites by doing the work of the tabernacle. Give the Levites to Aaron and his sons; they are the Israelites who are to be given wholly to him. Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death.” Num 3:5-10 The Lord also said to Moses, “I have taken the Levites from among the Israelites in place of the first male offspring of every Israelite woman. The Levites are mine, 13 for all the firstborn are mine. When I struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, I set apart for myself every firstborn in Israel, whether human or animal. They are to be mine. I am the Lord.” Num 3:12,13 The tribe of Levi was God’s ‘special possession’ (1 Pet 2:9); knowing this, why did Korah rebel against Aaron’s appointment as high priest and Moses as God’s spokesperson? Why would Korah desire a position other than what God had already given him? The Watchtower 02/8/1 states under its subheading, “MUST YOU MEN ALSO TRY TO SECURE THE PRIESTHOOD?”: “Whatever Korah’s reasoning might have been, it is clear that he began to view the priesthood from a HUMAN STANDPOINT. That led to his rebellion against Moses and Aaron and, ultimately, against Jehovah.” He viewed their position as an entitlement with special privileges, power and dominance; yes, from a human standpoint, but Moses reminded him and all the 250 in his company: “Hear now, you sons of Levi: Is it a small thing to you that the God of Israel has separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to Himself, to do the work of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to serve them; 10 and that He has brought you near to Himself, you and all your brethren, the sons of Levi, with you? And are you seeking the priesthood also? 11 Therefore you and all your company are gathered together against the Lord. And what is Aaron that you complain against him?” Num 16:8-11 (Exod 28:3; Heb 5:1-4) The title of the 02/8/1 Watchtower article is, “LOYALLY SUBMIT TO GODLY AUTHORITY”, and in this article we find Watchtower’s lies, deceit and REBELLION, upheld by the organization’s leaders. Today’s High Priest of his appointed “royal priesthood” is Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Heb 4:14,15 Could it be that the GB has deceitfully stepped in as “High Priest” over God’s anointed ones? “The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the Governing Body, they are in fact following their leader, Christ. Wt 9/15/2010” The anointed servants of God are to listen and follow one Master, Jesus Christ; just as the early priesthood under Aaron, followed Aaron’s direction. There is no place, no member in the Body of Christ that is superior over another; except the Head, Jesus Christ. Col 1:18; Eph 5:23,26,27,30-32; 1 Pet 4:10; 1 Cor 12:24-26 Has the Governing Body compared themselves to Moses? Indirectly, yes. “Of course, those taking the lead in the earthly part of God’s organization are not perfect—but neither was Moses.” Watchtower 11/4/15 pp. 3-5 How self-assuming of an uninspired GB, to even hint at equality with a man who, as scripture says, spoke “face to face” with God. Only Christ, who sits at his right hand, could be compared to Moses. Num 12:6-8; Heb 3:1-6 In the rebellion against Moses and Aaron, Korah’s company, “men of renown”, also included Dathan, Abiram, and On from the tribe of Reuben. Altogether, these men rallied against God’s appointed servants by making the claim, “You take too much upon yourselves, for all the congregation is holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord?” Num 16:3 This accusation clearly reveals the men’s hearts in ignoring God’s authority, and viewing the positions of Moses and Aaron as man-appointed, and not sanctioned by God. I find it incredible that although Korah and those with him had literally seen God’s great power in action, they still questioned his guidance through those he personally appointed. How quickly one’s mind can be clouded over with darkness, the result of self-absorption. Jesus, our High Priest, resides over his priesthood in the anointed ones. They are the only ones who can fulfill their spiritual duties in God’s Temple/sanctuary. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 2 Cor 6:16; Rev 1:6 The rituals of preparatory cleansing and sacrifices in Aaron’s time were based on the “heavenly things”; which is reaching its completeness during this time period of today. Heb 8:5; Col 2:17; Mal 3:2,3 Keeping in mind the accusation made by Korah and those with him, examine the Watchtower’s words that show vivid evidence of an elder body “securing the priesthood”: “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, WHETHER THEY ARE OF THE ANOINTED OR NOT. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. (Hebrews 13:7, 17) How can that be?” Did God appoint a “Gentile” elder body to represent his own priesthood of spiritual “Israel” that reside among them, expecting their obedience also? (Rom 2:28,29; Rev 7:4) It is not written anywhere in the Bible that substitutes for God’s priesthood could be made, but there are plenty of references where its enactment brought about the wrath of God. Ezek 28:18; 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Num 3:10, 8:19 The Watchtower continues: “These older men meet the requirements that are set out in God’s Word, which is a product of God’s spirit. (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9) Hence, their appointment CAN BE SAID to be by holy spirit. (Acts 20:28) This is an opinion, just as Korah and his men expressed their opinion. The Governing Body is using the claim that God’s spirit, which generated the scriptures, is enough evidence to appoint one to stand in as a “priest” in God’s Temple; thereby, it is ASSUMED, SUPPOSED, SEEMINGLY POSSIBLE, TAKEN FOR GRANTED… In other words… “CAN BE SAID”, that God chose them. Men are determining whether men meet the requirements; God has nothing to do with it, since his priesthood was already appointed by him through the anointing they received; yet the organization’s leaders have gone out on a limb by surmising that “the Supreme Judge” (par. 19) appointed the elder body by using scriptures that rightly refer to the anointed ones. HAVE THEY LOYALLY SUBMITTED TO GODLY AUTHORITY? NO. THEY HAVE INSTALLED THEIR OWN OPPRESSIVE AND CONDEMNING AUTHORITARIAN STRUCTURE BASED ON A HUMAN STANDPOINT. How far these men have presumptuously gone, in unrighteous acts against Godly Authority, and who boldly compare themselves to both Moses and Aaron. They say of the false priesthood/elder body, “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!” JWs, Please! DO challenge their false assumptions and twisted reasoning! There is no scriptural basis for this manmade rule or “law”; instead, it is “lawlessness”. 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:5-7,18; 11:1,2 Jesus said we would see the “disgusting thing standing in the holy place”, which is the false priesthood “representing” God’s Temple priests; whose lead, the anointed must follow, according to the Watchtower. As time exposes it for what it is, “sudden destruction” is not far behind. Luke 17:26-30; 1 Thess 5:3; 2 Thess 2:4,9-12 Thousands died during Korah’s rebellion, starting with Korah and the households of Dathan, and Abiram. It then spread by plague killing 14,700 who complained against Moses. It was a conspiracy never enacted – never put into practice, while today’s opposition against God’s chosen priesthood, is an abomination in the height of its activity – a dark plague of deceit already upon God’s anointed ones and companions. Matt 24:24,25,48-51; Rev 8:10,11; 9:1-6 Having faith in Jesus’ prophetic words describing this situation, can urge us to FLEE such an abomination standing defiantly before God; one well cloaked under the guise of divine inspiration. Matt 24:15,16; Rev 13:15 Pearl Doxsey – 4 woman in the wilderness: "First, let's briefly unravel and define the "disgusting thing". In history... Deut.29:17,18; 1Kings11:4,5,6; Eze.8:10; Jer.44:4 (In the original language, these verses contain "disgusting thing", although not in all versions of translation...sometimes rendered, "other gods", "detestable images", "abominations".) Ezekiel chapter 8 merits a closer scriptural look, so that we can get a fuller meaning... Eze.8:5 shows that there is an "image of jealousy" North of the altar gate...blocking entrance to the altar of sacrifice (perfect symbolism).Eze.8:6,9 describes...not a tangible image, but rather, activities being done in God's Temple. So the Image and the activities are two separate abominations. Now for verse 11... "And there stood before them seventy men of the elders of the house of Israel,..Each man had a censer in his hand, and a thick cloud of incense went up." What is the problem here? The answer is within the account at Numbers, chapter 16. Do you remember what was going on there? It is worth reading the whole chapter to get the point of what Ezekiel was being shown. To highlight the point, please read... Num.16:3,4,5,6,7,10,11,18,20,21,35,40. Can you see that those who perform the tasks which God designates for priests only, must not be performed by "the elders of Israel"? Even the king of Israel had to obey this law, which was punishable by death (1Sam.13:9,10,11,13,14; 2Chron.23:6,7; Num.18:7). The abomination Ezekiel describes, is the elders of Israel performing priestly duties within the Temple (offering incense)...the same offense as the rebellion against Aaron, who was chosen by God as priest. To have counterfeit priests in God's Temple is a gross offense against Him. It is an abomination for unsanctified Gentiles to offer incense for the forgiveness of the people's sins (Num.16:47). How is this occurring today? The NWT of Gal.6:1 reads: "Brethren, if a man commits a sin, you who have spiritual qualifications should try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness". "have spiritual qualifications"... How does the WT apply this phrase? Is it not to the non-anointed/non-priest Elders? This is due to 1Tim.3:1-13. Should these two scriptures really be linked as referring to the same group? Let's take a closer look at these modern day "incense" burners and this scriptural interpretation. If you look at what Gal.6:1 actually reads (it helps to check the original Greek), it says in essence... "Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who walk/live by spirit/ who are spirit ones... should restore him gently." This "walking/living by/being spirit", is not one of the "qualifications" for elders. It is not in the list of qualifications for elders, at 1Tim.. chapter 3. That is because Gal.6:1 is not referring to elders. It is referring to those who "walk/live by/are, spirit". THESE are the ones given authority to do the "readjusting". The Bible defines who it is, that "walks/lives by spirit"... Gal.5:25,24 reads: "Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires." Compare this to Gal. 3:29: "If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise." See Romans8:14,16,17... "because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory." Clearly, it is the chosen priests who are to "re-adjust" sinners in a spirit of gentleness. This is their job as symbolic incense burners within God's Temple of anointed (1Cor.3:16). So we see that the symbolic prophecies in Ezekiel regarding the "elders of Israel" burning incense within the temple, is certainly considered by God as an abomination, as well as the rebellion of the governing priests who dare to place them there (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 2Chron.13:9). This offense is alive and well today, as the GB of the WT has arranged for non-anointed elders to usurp God's chosen priests, perform their exclusive duties, and throw out any of them that protest this abominable disrespect toward God and His Holy Temple. (Heb.12:22,23,24,25,21,28,29)"
  17. God has formulated his anointed “royal priesthood” in Christ, using both male and female members; yet in this “operation of error”, men not appointed by God have replaced God’s ‘wisdom’ with those using human wisdom. No wonder the Wt. continues to stumble and fall backwards in guiding the sheep. Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 John 2:27; Gal 3:26-29; Heb 10:15,16; Isa 28:9-15; 2 Thess 2:9-12
  18. Let me explain my picture, @Queen Esther and @Eaton It is easy to quote scripture, "I am Jehovah and there is no one else"; but it is difficult to believe as a JW. Why? We cannot serve two masters. Matt 6:24 The organization/jw .org IS another entity JWs hold in high esteem. God is continually connected to the organization. "Jehovah AND his organization" "Jehovah WITH his organization" "Jehovah's organization" is a refuge, a safe haven, a "spiritual paradise", and salvation! Can anything take the place of God and Christ? He is specifically saying above, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE. He is our only rock; yet the picture I placed above shows a rock of high value with a logo that is touted as truth...and holding great power. Does it replace our only God in the hearts and minds of JWs? Does it replace Christ? "Truly my soul silently waits for God; From Him comes my salvation. 2 He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defense; I shall not be greatly moved. 3 How long will you attack a man? You shall be slain, all of you, Like a leaning wall and a tottering fence. 4 They only consult to cast him down from his high position; They delight in lies; They bless with their mouth, But they curse inwardly. Selah 5 My soul, wait silently for God alone, For my expectation is from Him. 6 He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defense; I shall not be moved. 7 In God is my salvation and my glory; The rock of my strength, And my refuge, is in God. 8 Trust in Him at all times, you people; Pour out your heart before Him; God is a refuge for us. Selah 9 Surely men of low degree are a vapor, Men of high degree are a lie; If they are weighed on the scales, They are altogether lighter than vapor. 10 Do not trust in oppression, Nor vainly hope in robbery; If riches increase, Do not set your heart on them. 11 God has spoken once, Twice I have heard this: That power belongs to God. 12 Also to You, O Lord, belongs mercy; For You render to each one according to his work." Ps 62
  19. The Bible is true. It is God's Word. But we cannot obey it, unless we understand it. Understanding is the only way to truly obey God's Word. Our being "no part of the world" must be in the way that Jesus himself was no part of the world (John17:16). That meant, that he was no part of the corruption of the religious leaders of God's people. HE WAS SPEAKING TO THEM, when he said; "You are of this world, I am not of this world" (John8:23). Were those Jews a part of the secular world? No. They kept separate from that world. They were a part of the oppressive religious system polluted by man-made doctrines and traditions. John1:9-11 reads; "9 The true light that gives light to everyone was COMING INTO THE WORLD. 10 He was IN THE WORLD, and though the world was made through him, THE WORLD DID NOT RECOGNIZE HIM. 11 HE CAME TO THAT WHICH WAS HIS OWN BUT HIS OWN DID NOT RECEIVE HIM." Can you see that the "world" into which Jesus came, was his own people??? He was not recognized as the Logos, by the Jews. How could the rest of our literal world (China, Russia, Africa, America) "not recognize" who Jesus was, when they never saw him, and he never went to them? Jesus confirms the identity of the "world" into which he was sent (John17:18; Matt.10:16-17)... "Jesus answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' " (Matt.15:24). When Jesus tells the faithful, that like him, they are no part of the world; if we wish to imitate him, we must properly understand, which "world" that really is. It is the "lost"... the wayward among God's own people! Pearl Doxsey, 4 woman in the wilderness
  20. At least in that case, everyone could recognize it for what it is, a puppet show. And who is pulling the strings? I am sure you will take my words with a grain of salt, but I offer them to any who care to read. Two ‘generations’ have been in existence since the beginning; two “seeds” becoming apparent since Adam; a righteous as well as a wicked generation. Gen 3:15 There are two fathers generating “seeds”. Satan – Deut 32:5; Acts 2:40; Matt 12:39, with his spirit within them - Eph 2:2; 1 John 3:12; Rev 16:13; 1 Tim 4:1 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44 God, the Father to the righteous – Ps 112:2, with God’s spirit within their heart. 1 Pet 1:23; John 1:13; 1 John 5:18; Matt 10:20; Gal 3:29 “so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky.” Phil 2:15 Both are present until Christ returns. Prophesy concerns both seeds that have generated/regenerated over the centuries, and will not “pass away” until prophesy (God’s word through Jesus and all the prophets) concerning them, is fulfilled. Matt 24:35; 5:18 “Righteousness” dwells in one’s heart – the ‘new heavens and new earth’ where righteousness dwells concerns the anointed who have been sealed ‘in the heavens’. 2 Pet 3:10-13; Eph 2:6; Heb 12:22,23; Phil 3:20 Since the GB disregards the true spiritual meaning of “this generation”; the day will come upon them “as a thief”. They teach physical manifestations as the “sign of the Son of Man”, led along by the father of the lie. “What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.” 1 Cor 2:12-14 Their record of consistent failure and readjustments shows what dwells in their heart; it certainly is not any understanding from Christ. They are a part of the prophesy warning of such ones, that Jesus said would be fulfilled. Luke 21:8; 2 Thess 2:1,2; Rev 3:3; 16:15; Matt 24:43; Luke 12:42,45,46; 2 Thess 2:9,10; Rev 13:13,14
  21. “An evil and adulterous generation demands a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” Then He left them and went away.” Matt 16:4 “Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elemental forces of the world, and not based on Christ.” Col 2:8 "...wisdom is proved righteous by her children" Matt 11:19
  22. Just some further thought: Rev 21:17 – “Then he measured its wall, 144 cubits according to human measurement, which the angel used.” This is the measurement of the Holy City, comprised of the anointed ones, the new creation of both human and angel/spirit. Rev 21:2,3; 1 Cor 3:16; 6:17,19; John 14:23; Rom 8:9,11; Gal 4:6; Eph 3:17 “144,000” is based on the number 12. Symbolically, it represents the full number of the living stones of the Temple, just as the 12 foundations represent the apostles. So, its meaning could take on both a human/literal number as well as a spiritual/symbolic number. Still, it is God’s choice. YES! life in Christ or death. Thank you for bringing this out. It is more appropriate to say the anointed are “called” to an appointed work, and Chosen when refined and sealed. 1 Cor 1:2;7:20-22; Rom 9:23,24; 8:29,30; Rev 7:4 I think we need to realize that this appointment made by God, is on the heart condition at the time (2 Chron 16:9 ); which tells me that those who are selected, agree to the “vow”, at least initially. Matt 20:20-23 From there on, Satan puts them through a similar test that Christ faced. Luke 22:31; 1 Pet 5:8; Rev 12:17 For the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed”, the test is more grueling; more deceitful and more ‘tribulating’. Mark 13:19,20; Rev 12:17 If there are “firstfruits” of a crop, that isn’t the whole crop – others follow. Under the New Covenant, the “firstfruits” are the first…to receive life in Christ. Rev 20:6; James 1:18; Rev 14:4,5 Since Christ, both have existed. “He himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours, but also for those of the whole world.” 1 John 2:2 (John 4:42) Christ dies first for the members of his Body, his Bride (Heb 9:28); yet he also died for the “sins of the whole world”. 1 John 2:2; 4:14; John 4:42 Once fully united as the Bride of Christ to her “husband” she is the “woman”, the fulfilled New Covenant promise. Gal 4:24-26 She is one in Spirit with Christ. Rev 22:17; John 7:38; John 6:63, Matt 10:40,41; 1 Cor 6:19,17 The Bride is composed of “ministering spirits” to the ‘second fruits’ Heb 1:14 Rev 22:17 is addressing the ‘secondfruits’, the rest of God’s children. (John 7:38) The Bride/anointed ones “come down out of heaven” as “New Jerusalem/Holy City/Temple” to bring healing and restoration to mankind, and all of God’s creation. Rev 21:2; 22:3,2,17 This time period since Christ has been a preparatory process placed upon those appointed to serve God, Christ and all mankind. In its finished state, “New Jerusalem” will be seen on earth. Rev 21:2 If all are of God’s Temple, and part of Christ’s Body, what people are they administering to? Mal 2:7 We can all receive Holy Spirit, we can all believe in Christ, but this doesn’t mean we are all “priestly kings” working with Jesus. That requires an anointing, becoming the “new creation”, which is not questionable or presumed in the mind of the receiver, it is without a doubt an experience never forgotten. When reading Matt 5:14-16, it is clear that the apostles fit its description; they let their light shine before all men in the same manner as Christ – because they became part of him, to teach as he taught. “I assure you: Whoever receives anyone I send receives Me, and the one who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.” John 13:20 “Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, certain that God is appealing through us. We plead on Christ’s behalf, “Be reconciled to God.” 2 Cor 5:20 On the day of Pentecost, Peter gave a speech to all those drawn by the commotion they heard. For those who became believers after Peter spoke to them, were they then anointed? No, but they were baptized in water, showing their dedication to Christ, and became disciples of Christ. Acts 2:41,42 Many of the early disciples were commended for their care of the “saints”. Heb 6:10; 1 Cor 1:2; Matt 25:37-40 No religious organization is mentioned in the Bible, but it tells us that when Christ’s “thousand year reign” is over, Gog and Magog/two Beasts/ deceive the anointed ones – gather them, and surround them with deceit – a “delusion” 2 Thess 2:1-12 This leads back to my initial posts here. Revelation ties in completely with the signs Christ gave us of his coming.
  23. “Goodbye God, I’m going to Bodie.” As the story goes, these words were apparently written by a ten-year-old girl, when her family made the decision to join in on the gold rush in Bodie, California, leaving San Francisco behind. In 1879, Bodie was reaching a population peak of 7,000 people with 2,000 buildings. Now as a “ghost town” with only 110 buildings remaining, it’s location at 8,379 feet on a windswept plain overlooking the Sierra Mountains, is now a National Landmark and a State Historical Park. What an interesting perspective this little girl had regarding Bodie. The common trademarks of a booming mining town were its saloons, shootings and “red light district”; and Bodie, with its 65 saloons, was no exception. I have walked its main streets trying to picture what life was like then. Evidence of shoot outs can be seen by the bullet holes left behind. The lust for earthly riches produced all sorts of evil, greed and sin. Bodie’s heyday was short-lived. By 1917, the major mine had closed and the railway abandoned; and by 1920, the population had dropped to 120 stalwart survivors. In 1962 when Bodie became a State Historical Park, it was established that preservation of the town would commence at that point. Any buildings that were collapsed would remain so; with their artifacts removed and stored in various intact buildings. This process the state adopted, is known as “arrested decay”, where any structures left standing must be kept from disintegrating. It is a tedious endeavor; artifacts inside are removed including any dust, to be stored temporarily. The roof and walls are reinforced, and effort is made to save as much of the existing “fabric” as possible. Once the building is secured, the artifacts are returned, as well as the dust to cover them. In a sense, the building becomes a facade, stuck in the moment of 1962 and not allowed to decay any further. Quite a few years ago during a special tour of the town, I was given entry into the general store, where many of the artifacts from collapsed buildings find a home. On one of the shelves were a handful of the first books published by the Watchtower Society. As a “JW” at the time, I was deeply impressed, and held one gingerly in my hand believing it was a special part of my spiritual heritage, EVEN THOUGH I HADN’T READ ANY OF THEM. I was “in the truth”, so undoubtedly I felt that the book I held contained the truth. Obviously, someone brought the books with them from their previous home; and left them to decay in the building the books were rescued from. I can’t remember the titles of these books, but as Bodie was waning, one of the early published books printed by the Society was “The Finished Mystery”, and the last in the series of the “Studies in the Scriptures”. Watchtower’s comment on the series are as follows: “After C. T. Russell’s death, a publication designated as the seventh volume of Studies in the Scriptures was prepared in an attempt to provide an explanation of the books of Ezekiel and Revelation. The volume was based, in part, on comments that Russell had made on those Bible books. However, the time to reveal the meaning of those prophecies had not yet come, and in general, the explanation offered in that volume of Studies in the Scriptures was hazy. In the ensuing years, Jehovah’s undeserved kindness and developments on the world scene have allowed Christians to discern the meaning of those prophetic books more accurately.” Wt 2000 The term, “hazy” is an understatement in reference to any of the Studies in the Scriptures. “Like a madman who throws flaming darts and deadly arrows, so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, ‘I was only joking!’” Prov 26:18,19 J.F. Rutherford authorized the publication of “The Finished Mystery”, a writing that began with C.T. Russel and finished with Clayton J. Woodworth. The book highlighted Ezekiel, the Song of Solomon and Revelation. It is prefaced by stating: “Some will murmur and find fault with this book; some will grow angry, and some will join the persecutors. But; we believe, every saint whose heart is filled with love for God and for His people will rejoice and give praise to the Lord for this FURTHER EVIDENCE OF HIS BLESSED FAVOR.” I present you with the pdf form of this book, if you don’t already own a copy. Please, check a few of the pages for solid proof that God had no hand in supporting this publication. Pages 84, 85,93, 139, 171,178, 191,226, etc., and this one: “The Lord assumes an Interest in AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR the complete series of STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, the last one of which especially represents the winepress feature (Rev. 14:18- 20)” Pg 295 http://jehovah.net.au/…/The_Finished_Mystery_1918ed_19MB.pdf Should any JW be enamored as I was in the town of Bodie, over the history of the organization’s publications, of which it has literally removed from your access? Yet despite their spiritual decay, these books are still preserved, regardless of the vivid lies they contain. w12 2/15 pp. 8-9 “Regarding our preaching work during the first world war, one brother wrote: “God’s servants were energetically distributing the seventh volume of Studies in the Scriptures, entitled The Finished Mystery. It was reaching an unprecedented distribution. Kingdom News No. 1 was released in 1918. Next came Kingdom News No. 2, explaining why The Finished Mystery was suppressed by the authorities. This was followed by Kingdom News No. 3. These publications were widely distributed by the faithful anointed class. It took faith and courage to put out Kingdom News.” “July 17, 1917, saw the release of a new book, The Finished Mystery. By the end of the year, supplies of the book were exhausted and 850,000 more copies were ordered from the firm that printed our literature.” 2017 Yearbook Should any of us be applauded for our faith and courage in spreading obvious lies? This is exactly what the Watchtower has done and still does today – in 2017. JWs are applauded for preaching fallacy then, and now; believing it draws one closer to God. “The Lord said: ‘Because these people approach Me with their mouths to honor Me with lip-service— yet their hearts are far from Me, and their worship consists of man-made rules learned by rote— therefore I will again confound these people with wonder after wonder. The wisdom of their wise men will vanish, and the understanding of the perceptive will be hidden.’” Isa 29:13,14 Another term for the process of “arrested decay” is “preserved ruin”. The Watchtower struggles to maintain its foundation as solid, despite its ever-changing false teachings reflecting the absence of the wisdom of God and Christ. Just as Bodie attempts to save the old “fabric” by strengthening it with new additions in its structures, the Watchtower has done likewise. It is attempting to preserve a ruin. Without a solid foundation with God and his Son, nothing can stand – no human, and certainly no organization. “Through wisdom a house is built, And by understanding it is established; By knowledge the rooms are filled With all precious and pleasant riches.” Prov 24:3,4 Is the “house”, the organization, filled with pleasant riches and God’s wisdom, or is it like town of Bodie where its preserved items and books identify itself with its drunkenness, wicked, greedy, immoral, even violent past? The Watchtower’s “harlot”/GB/“wicked slave” shares her intoxicating power and dominance with the “Gentile” Beast/elder body. This is a spiritual drunkenness that leads to the ‘beating’ of fellow slaves. Matt 24:48,49; Luke 12:36; Isa 28:7,8,14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/… Yes, all the aspects of violence, sin and wickedness reside in the organization which is soon to become a complete ruin. God’s “house”, his dwelling in the hearts of the anointed ones can only be preserved through Holy Spirit, the “wine” of truth; yet, they too are drunk on the Harlot’s “wine” made with “rotten fruit”. John 15:5,16; Matt.7:15,16; 12:33,34; John7:18https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/… If these slaves, and all JWs, continue in their own drunkenness, they will also become a complete ruin. Jer.2:21; Deut.32:33,32; Psalm140:3; Rom.3:13 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/… Will God preserve or arrest the state of decay in the organization? “The eyes of the Lord preserve knowledge, but he overthrows the words of the treacherous man.” Prov 22:17 “Therefore you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Drink, be drunk, and vomit! Fall and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you.”’ And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup from your hand to drink, then you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts: “You shall certainly drink! For behold, I BEGIN TO BRING CALAMITY ON THE CITY WHICH IS CALLED BY MY NAME, and should you be utterly unpunished? You shall not be unpunished, for I will call for a sword on all the inhabitants of the earth,” says the Lord of hosts.’ Jer 25:27-29 It is evident that the exodus from Bodie took little time when the gold and the liquor ran dry; with probably many of its inhabitants moving on to the next gold rush town. Jesus, who offers us “refined gold”, expects us to make haste when leaving the “apostate city”; although in this case, what is preserved as pleasing to the eye still holds power over the majority. Please, JWs, heed his words – words that bring eternal life. Rev 3:17,18; 1 John 2:25; 5:11; 2 Cor 4:18 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/… “For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.” And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.” Rev 18:3,4
  24. Yes, I was harsh, and I apologize; I should have verbally softened what my gut feels. Yet, in a rather crude way, you’ve just described Armageddon. It has nothing to do with being “mad”, but everything to do with taking our stand for God’s Word in Christ – or for man’s word. The “kings of the earth” are the anointed ones (Rev 1:5) who battle, according to the spirit they submit themselves to. 2 Cor 11:4 The thousand years are over, Satan has been let loose and deceives, (2 Thess 2:1-12 – “deceives, “delusion”; Rev 13:14 –“deceives; 20:8 – “deceive”)… the anointed who have been “gathered” and face “deceitful spirits”. Rev 16:13,14,16 Those that reject his delusion and turn totally to Christ,(Eph 5:14) ‘feud’ with those who continue to feed all, the lie. Christ’s truthful messengers expose the lie, Satan’s messengers fuel the lie. If this battle was to take place in Satan’s world using Satan’s ruling “kings”, what sort of ‘deceit’ would he use against the anointed ones? Looking at 2 Thess 2 and its focus on a “delusion”, how can any earthly ruler coerce a people who are already politically neutral? And who would be his puppets, Trump? Kim Jong Un? Putin? It’s pretty obvious what page they are on, one with no written knowledge of who the anointed ones are. The battle is fought in the “spirit”realm,(Eph 6:12), not physically, and you are witnessing it now. Rev 12:7; 17:14; 19:11,14; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20 2 Thess 2:9-12 tells us that this “angel of light” and his “ministers” convince God’s people to love the lie – counterfeit “truth”. Jesus, who rides the “white horse” and is called “Faithful and True”, exposes the “man of lawlessness with the “breath” of his mouth through his faithful anointed “army”. The “man of lawlessness”/elder body/organization/Wild Beast, that has rule over the anointed ones, is Satan’s delusion/operation of error/Gog and Magog. And it is being exposed. Yes, you are free to make whatever choice you want, but the message still must be received, because it concerns the lives of every JW. Rev 1:1;11:3; 18:4-8; 14:6-16; Isa 10:19-23
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