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In Revelation, the Beast never came out of the abyss, only to descend again, then re-emerge as an “image” of itself. The Wild Beast comes out of the sea. (Rev 13:1) This sea, is symbolic, since even with your interpretation, we don’t see the UN literally coming out of the sea. “Sea” - akin to ἅλς (better, allied to ταράσσω etc., from its tossing; cf. Vanicek, p. 303 The sea represents darkness, spiritual blindness, and the people who are within it – the abyss. Isa 57:20 - "But the wicked are like the storm-tossed sea, for it cannot be still, and its water churns up mire and muck. Zech 10:11 - The LORD will pass through the sea of distress and strike the waves of the sea; all the depths of the Nile will dry up. The pride of Assyria will be brought down, and the scepter of Egypt will come to an end. Water/river can also signify people and teachings, either from Satan or from Jesus Christ. (Rev 12:15; 17:1; 22:1) Whatever we drink in, we become part if it. John 7:38 Of Satan, God says, “I will put hooks in your jaws and make the fish of your streams cling to your scales. I will haul you up from the middle of your Nile, and all the fish of your streams will cling to your scales.” Ezek 29:4 Satan is the King of the abyss . He is ruler over his “sea”. Rev 9:11 - They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer). (Isa 33:1) The Wild Beast emerges from the “sea”/abyss, and nowhere in Revelation does it say he rises up once again from the sea. Rev 11:7 – “Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.” Rev 17:8 – “The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.” Do you see anywhere in Revelation where the Beast descends into the abyss? We only see that Satan was chained into this spiritual darkness of “not perceiving” for a symbolic thousand years. Rev 20:3 He was prevented from DECEIVING the “nations”/God’s people. How do we know it was God's people that he was prevented from deceiving? Once he is let out, who does he attack? All people of the world? It is the “saints” that he and his Beasts surround for the war of Armageddon, using DECEIT – DEMONIC EXPRESSIONS, NOT LITERAL ARMIES. Rev 20:7-9; 16:13-16 John is receiving visions of the future. He knew of the trampling of God’s Temple by the Romans in the first century. He “saw” it - "the beast which you saw" . That was a figurative Beast that came against Israel. It was the “man of lawless”, that destroyed the physical Temple – defiling it with the uncircumcised. It “once was”. In the last days, the beast comes out of the abyss, the sea of wickedness, as the “man of lawlessness” again, warring against God’s spiritual Temple in the anointed ones – “Israel”. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 13:5-7) The temple is defiled by “uncircumcised” Gentiles who “represent the royal priesthood”. 2 Thess 2:3,4 “This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.” Rev 13:18 “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.” 2 Thess 2:7-10 A lie is a “demonic expression”…DECEIT. Matt 24:24,25 - For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to DECEIVE, if possible, even the elect. “elect” – chosen by God.

None, because the interpretation is wrong. The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 receives spirit from a false prophet. (Rev 13:11,12,15) What false prophet assisted in "giving breath" to the UN, creating its "image"?

I doubt anyone here will say that I have refused to be vocal on a variety of topics.

I'm just curious how he can teach doctrine that actually conflicts with what comes from the GB, and not be disfellowshipped. I suppose as long as you support them and the organization, you can teach anything you want and not be called out for it.

Nice, you cited the scriptures. Now,

w19 September pp. 10-11 par. 11 Armageddon Is Good News! *** Jehovah will destroy “the great prostitute” by means of “the ten horns” of “a scarlet-colored wild beast.” That figurative wild beast represents the United Nations. The ten horns represent the current political powers supporting that organization. ws12 6/15 p. 18 par. 15 Jehovah Reveals What “Must Shortly Take Place” *** The religions of Christendom are surely part of Babylon the Great. False religions have publicly supported the image of the beast, that is, the League of Nations and the United Nations, None of this is consistent. So, which is it? Is the Beast the UN or now a “worldwide political system”? And is this political system totally "worldwide", because Russia is not part of the UN..or is it? What about China, North Korea? Or, is at the Wt 19 says, only those "worldwide" political powers that support the UN? The waters appear to be very muddied. Ezek 34:18,19 The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 receives spirit from a false prophet. (Rev 13:11,12,15) What false prophet assisted in "giving breath" to the UN, creating its "image"?

This needs to be clearer. Jesus began reigning in the first century, and this is when the symbolic “thousand years” began. (Ps 110:1,2; Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55,56; 1 Cor 15:25) Satan was “abyssed”, unable to perceive how to deceive and take “captive” through empty philosophy, (Col 2:8) the anointed ones. (Luke 10:18-20; Rev 20:1-4) During that time, the anointed never faced Daniel’s fourth Beast; thus they never accepted its mark/identity, and they never “worshipped” it. (Rev 13:4,8,16) But the last of the anointed are the subject of Satan’s deceitful test, because we’re at the end of his reign. When this all over, he’s toast, and God’s Kingdom begins. (Isa 33:1; 1 Cor 15:26; Rev 20:10-14) After thousands of years, do any of us believe he will turn over what he’s built without a fight? His target is the anointed ones, because the last of the faithful ones under Christ will complete the Temple “building”. (Gal 4:24,26; Rev 12:1,2,4,15; Zech 4:6,7; Eph 2:20-22; Dan 7:18) But, they must walk in his path; persecuted by their people, thrown out of the “congregation”, considered spiritually “dead”/”killed” by the Beast. (Phil 3:10-12; John 16:2; Rev 13:15) Is that what the Wt teaches? They teach that all need to remain secure within the organization, that they are already safe from Satan’s tactics, as long as they are obedient to the organization’s leaders; and it is the world outside that will bring them down. Well, that’s an age-old form of trapping someone in, to do their will. (Isa 29:20,21; Amos 3:5; Matt 24:24,25; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) Satan’s bulls eye right now, is on them, and it began when he was let loose from the abyss of “not perceiving” – when he was freed to DECEIVE the anointed remnant. (2 Tim 3:1-9; 2 Pet 3:17; Rev 8:10,11; Deut 29:18; Matt 7:20; Heb 12:15; Rev 9:1,2,11;13:11,12) This test against those in the “woman” New Covenant, began with the advent of the Watchtower. The test is based solely on DECEIT, NOT ON THE ACTIONS HAPPENING ON THE POLITICAL STAGE OF THE WORLD. What we see on the physical front is a diversion, a military tactic - a ruse by Satan - to deceive all in the organization; particularly, the anointed. It should be a question in one’s conscience, to ask how an organization touting it belongs to the God of truth, has allowed deceptive doctrine to continue stringing its members along, when in any other aspect of life, most people would reject any organization, any people, who kept convincing their listeners, to accept its promises, that repetitively turned out to be lies. Not just once, but hundreds of times over. This organization is not owned by a God of truth, or ruled over by His Son who is truth. (Jer 23:16;John 14:6) When Israel was told “do not listen to the prophets…They are deluding you. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the Lord’s mouth”, what happened to those who refused to accept the warning, and kept listening to the false prophets? Jer 23:23-33 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+23%3A23-33&version=CSB God’s decrees concerning today’s “prophets” have not changed. Jesus “heals” us with his word… of truth. He would never gouge us with a falsehood, or allows his faithful servants to do so, with false doctrines that are established for years. The gouge just gets deeper as time goes by; and THE,N with “new light”, the emotional, spiritual wound of a lie is supposedly healed over, in an instant? For from the least to the greatest of them, everyone is making profit dishonestly. From prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely. 14 They have treated my people’s brokenness superficially, claiming, “Peace, peace,” when there is no peace. 15 Were they ashamed when they acted so detestably? They weren’t at all ashamed. They can no longer feel humiliation. Therefore, they will fall among the fallen. When I punish them, they will collapse, says the Lord. Jer 6:13-15 This organization is Satan’s ploy, and it has worked out well for him, for the GB, for the organization. No longer though, the world is catching on to the obvious signs of the organization’s sins. The anointed and those with them who are fully awake, will continue to readily expose Satan’s deceitful end-time magnum opus – the rest of the iceberg that lays hidden under the sea. (Rev 18:4-8)

Your comment is total confusion. He quoted the Watchtower. That was basically the extent of it. If by doing so, a "bad report" was revealed, it was the fault of the Wt leaders who approved the quotes.

Thank you for the quotes. That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations. 18 The United Nations organization is described as a “disgusting thing” because it claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do—bring world peace. Matt 24:15 - “So when you see the “disgusting thing” - the abomination of desolation,spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place” (let the reader understand)… The scriptures provide the definition of the disgusting thing. It is the trampling of the Temple of God, not that the UN “claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do”. (Although that is what the Wt. organization claims, that spiritual peace and security are found within it. 1 Thess 5:3) Daniel defines the abomination/disgusting thing quite clearly as affecting the Temple of God and His holy people, not all religions. It is the fourth Beast of Dan 7:7. The footnote for “abomination” (Matt 24:15) refers to Dan 9 (Dan 9:24-27; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:1-3,15; 16:13-16). Jerusalem and the Temple (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) are affected by the abomination. (Dan 7:25; 8:11,12,24) We know the first fulfillment of this was in the first century, but there is another spoken of in Revelation which was written after Jerusalem’s destruction. (Isa 26:13; 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15; 2 Chron 23:6) So Wt concentrates on the scarlet-colored wild beast; and as you say, skips over Rev 13 that mentions the “image” of the Beast, how it became that way, and that describes both the Wild Beast and the Beast/false prophet that directs it. Why do they avoid these scriptures? The primary target of the Wild Beast are the “saints”, not Christendom or false religion. (Rev 13:5-7) And the saints are in the Watchtower, whose leaders avoid the truth. These are the same leaders who have given breath/life to the “image of the Beast”, promoted as “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”, which now, even that label they are trying to drop and tuck away...out of sight. Rev 14 – Three messengers/angels warn of the consequences of those worshiping the Beast and its image, and having its mark on the forehead; and it continues describing two harvests, of righteous “wheat” from the “earth” ,and the unrighteous ripened grapes from the vine of Sodom. (Deut 32:32; Rev 8:10,11; 17:1; (Matt 3:12; Joel 2:12,13; 3:13,14) If Wt is correct in their interpretation of the Beast, I would guess THEY would provide these three messengers to sound the warning throughout the earth? But, they have ignored this chapter that speaks of the spirit-directed image of the Beast, for ten years; and they wait with baited breath for Armageddon to break out any day now. Rev 15 speaks of those who have gained victory over the Beast, since Rev 13:5-7 describes its war against the saints. The victorious ones fell captive to the Beast, were “killed” by the Beast, but through their testimony of truth, gained eternal life. (Rev 11:7; 14:13) Rev 16 – God’s wrath in the form of spiritual plagues against those who killed the saints and the prophets. It describes the battle of Armageddon against…again, God’s saints, the “kings of the earth” (Rev 1:5) who are gathered by the Wild Beast, the false prophet, and Satan…to be flooded with lies – “demonic expressions”. Rev 16:13-16 Rev 19 - The false prophet/Harlot of Rev 13:11 who has broken her covenant with God, is judged. The Beast who warred with the saints, and the false prophet who approved of it, are both thrown into the lake of fire - the judgment by God's word. Jer 23:29 This entire war is based on deceit. It is not seen with the visible eye as the wars happening in the world. (Eph 6:12) The leaders don’t like touching Rev 20, because of Gog and Magog and when Satan was released from the abyss. Why upset the thought of a peaceful thousand years to come after Armageddon, with another visit by Gog! Plus, there are those mentioned who never worshipped the Beast. Who are they? Why are there some who are victorious at winning the war against the Beast in chapter 15, rejecting its mark and are killed by it, and others who never faced the Beast – who never fell captive to it and “worshipped” it? It is because of their flawed timetable of when Christ’s thousand years began and when it ended – with the advent of the Wt. “As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them; he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings.” Dan 7:24 The Beast “kills” three kings – the same three messengers of Revelation 14 that declares its sins and warn of the coming judgment against the Beast and the false prophet/Harlot. “He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.” Dan 7:25 Is the United Nations going to capture all the anointed saints, (Rev 13:10), kill those who stand up to it when giving “testimony of Jesus”, and refuse its mark/identity (Rev 13:15;12:17)? And then…will they be resurrected to declare its sins as the two witnesses/three messengers in Revelation 14? (Rev 11:1-3,7) The Watchtower is the Wild Beast, the present GB entity is a "head" that direct it. (Rev 13:12) The organization/"Gentile" elder body is the "disgusting thing standing in the holy place"; which is the spiritual Temple of God, just as the abomination/disgusting thing was the Gentile Roman army in the first century, desecrating the temple in Jerusalem. 2 Thess 2:3,4 There is unity throughout God's word to help us understand end time fulfillment. Watchtower makes up its fabrications, purposefully throwing all unity and definitions of scripture aside, to hide the truth.

Whatever you think the "image of the Beast is", I believe you missed out on some "new light". It has been about 10 years since the Wt. called the "image", the UN. Whether that meshes with your understanding, I don't know. But, I do know that the UN is not trashed lately as the bad guy, or the bad beast by the organization. How can they trash an entity that is empathetic to the JW plight in Russia? Focus is on a political "coalition of nations", whose origins seem a bit obscure. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they have pinpointed exactly what countries these armies will march from and seek out every JW across the world. Are you prophesying according to your personal understanding, or an out-of-date understanding of the organization, or the now in place, adjusted "new light" of your leadership? Who is telling the truth?

This is from Ezekiel, chapter 9 What city is God referring to? What is God upset about? He said to me, “Son of man, do you see what they are doing here—more detestable acts that the house of Israel is committing—so that I must depart from my sanctuary? You will see even more detestable acts.” Ezek 8:6 An "abomination" has entered God's Temple. Today, the same has occurred on a spiritual level in the "holy city"/"Jerusalem" of "Israel", within the Watchtower. Matt 24:14-16 "So he brought me to the inner court of the Lord’s house, and there were about twenty-five men at the entrance of the Lord’s temple, between the portico and the altar, with their backs to the Lord’s temple and their faces turned to the east. They were bowing to the east in worship of the sun. 17 And he said to me, “Do you see this, son of man? Is it not enough for the house of Judah to commit the detestable acts they are doing here, that they must also fill the land with violence and repeatedly anger me, even putting the branch to their nose? 18 Therefore I will respond with wrath. I will not show pity or spare them. Though they call loudly in my hearing, I will not listen to them.” Ezek 8:16-18 Revelation 11:1,2 - Then I was given a measuring reed like a rod, with these words: “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count those who worship there. 2 But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Don’t measure it, because it is given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for forty-two months. "Israel's" leadership, the GB, are responsible for the "abomination standing in the holy place". They have given "Gentiles" the authority to replace the anointed priests, and "enter" the Temple of God. Through these "Gentiles", an idol stands in the spiritual Temple of God. (1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22) That idol is "Jehovah's organization" represented by the elder body. And what organization is predicted by "Israel's" leaders to be the only one to survive Wt.'s Armageddon? You guessed it. Armageddon focuses on "Israel" and the Gentile nations with them - they face the "day of the Lord". "They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against it?” Rev 13:4 Is it not taught that no other organization, political entity, or a "coalition of nations" can wage war against the Watchtower, and win?

Continue down in Dan 12 - The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed.” Dan 12:7 The “holy people” are the same people mentioned in your scripture of Dan 12:1. "Your people" are Daniel's people of Israel. Today's "Israel" are God's chosen "holy people". Why is their power broken? How does that occur? “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Dan 12:11 Who are to offer daily sacrifices? It would be the chosen priests of God. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:9) In the ancient Temple setting: “Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.” Heb 10:11 What about today’s anointed priests of God’s spiritual Temple? (1 Cor 3:16) Are they to offer spiritual sacrifices? “you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 1 Pet 2:5 They are an active priesthood, aren't they! “Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.” Heb 13:15 However, Dan 12:11 is calling the abolishment, the removal of daily sacrifices, as the “abomination that causes desolation”. “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.” Dan 11:31 The power of the holy people/priesthood, as the “living stones” of the Temple of God, has been broken. The daily sacrifices are no more. The holy people/priests are no longer sought out as God’s spiritual messengers. (Mal 2:7) Although they carry God’s laws on their heart, they have been silenced and cannot teach them. (Heb 8:10) Where is this happening? “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.” “And give these rebels, the people of Israel, this message from the Sovereign Lord: O people of Israel, enough of your detestable sins! 7 You have brought uncircumcised foreigners into my sanctuary—people who have no heart for God. In this way, you *defiled my Temple even as you offered me my food, the fat and blood of sacrifices. In addition to all your other detestable sins, you have broken my covenant. 8 Instead of safeguarding my sacred rituals, you have hired foreigners to take charge of my sanctuary.” Ezek 44:6-8 The “Gentile”/foreigners/elders offer “sacrifices of praise” as representatives of the priesthood. They offer the majority of their praises to “Jehovah’s organization” – an idol. (Rev 13:1,2,4) The power of the holy people – of the holy priesthood and “living stones” of God’s Temple – has been broken. As a people they have been trampled, and as they are trampled down by the word of men, truth is also “thrown to the ground”. Dan 8:12,13 2 Thess 2:3,4 - Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessnessis revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God. What is that great rebellion against God? “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust.” The apostle Paul declared to the anointed priests – “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone *defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” 1 Cor 3:16,17 If any anointed are reading this, consider who it is that says they are representing you as a priest, and by doing so they have "entered" the Temple of God. Consider that these elders rule over you, that they have been given false power to judge you as worthy or unworthy of God’s Holy Spirit. (Rom 14:4; Gal 1:10; Rev 13:15) Is this a decree that has come down from God? Would God condone the removal of His priests, the silencing of His decrees? Has He ever agreed to this? "But you and your sons will carry out your priestly responsibilities for everything concerning the altar and for what is inside the curtain, and you will do that work. I am giving you the work of the priesthood as a gift, but an unauthorized person who comes near the sanctuary will be put to death." Num 18:7 Elders, many of you are leaving the Wt, many more had better take note and do the same. (1 Cor 3:17; 2 Thess 2:3,4,8) Please don’t treat God’s word on the matter of His royal priesthood, as not applying to you. It is an “abomination” for anyone not anointed to rule over, silence, or order God’s priests not to bond together under Jesus Christ their Head, as your magazine has told them. “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” Mar 13:14 Abomination of Desolation toward the Constant Feature

My first definition was on the same lines as this one: http://www.mother-god.com/greek_goddess_demeter.html What we actually have is de-meter often anciently abbreviated simply to deo. The most obvious and likely etymology is "God-Mother" or "Divine-Mother", often abbreviated simply to "God". Secondly, the Greek Goddess Demeter represents a particular aspect of Deity with an important agricultural ritual and symbolism. She is the Mother God within Her own, very widespread cultus, just as Allah is the Father God in the cultus of Islam. Nonetheless, the particular religious emphasis of her cultus was upon the mystery of death and resurrection: the Mother God and Her Sacrificial Daughter. In fact, this is exactly the same religious stream that, in patriarchalised form, became the cultus known as Christianity. Aah, another dichotomy. Watchtower is full of them. It is very curious Allen, why you would choose such a name for someone who professes to be a Christian, or do you profess to be a Christian? Now, if your were born with this name, it's different story. But, to voluntarily choose the name of a pagan deity...well, it explains your aversion to truth. God's true witnesses are the anointed priesthood. Isa 43:10-13 These scriptures should explain that both Pearl and I are only witnesses for YHVH and His Son. This is what the Lord, the King of Israel and its Redeemer, the Lord of Armies, says: I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me. 7 Who, like me, can announce the future? Let him say so and make a case before me, since I have established an ancient people. Let these gods declare the coming things, and what will take place. 8 Do not be startled or afraid. Have I not told you and declared it long ago? You are my witnesses! Is there any God but me? There is no other Rock; I do not know any. 9 All who make idols are nothing, and what they treasure benefits no one. Their witnesses do not see or know anything, so they will be put to shame. 10 Who makes a god or casts a metal image that benefits no one? 11 Look, all its worshipers will be put to shame, and the craftsmen are humans. They all will assemble and stand; they all will be startled and put to shame. Isa 44:6-11

These comments are tools used by the GB to instill fear, where fear should not exist. It is absolutely a pervasive fallacy to - #1 – compare an uninspired GB to Moses, personally chosen by God as a prophet. #2 – claim that God’s representatives are the GB, when false prophets (which means they have predicted false dates and doctrine revealed as a lie…“old light”/”new light”) were prophesied to come against the “elect” in the last days. (Matt 24:24) There were many false prophets in the nation of Israel, and if the governing leaders want to make the comparison of that ancient nation to themselves, why would the Wt., that holds anointed “Israel”, concentrate on the world’s religions and its false prophets, and not on the nation of “Israel”? The comparison to yesterday’s Israel and today’s spiritual “Israel”, should hold in all cases; but it doesn’t, because, Wt.’s leaders are the false prophets. (Matt 24:24,25; 7:15-20; Acts 20:28-31; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:11,12,15) #3 – to use the example of Korah against “apostates” What was Korah rebelling against? Moses also told Korah, “Now listen, Levites! 9 Isn’t it enough for you that the God of Israel has separated you from the Israelite community to bring you near to himself, to perform the work at the Lord’s tabernacle, and to stand before the community to minister to them? 10 He has brought you near, and all your fellow Levites who are with you, but you are pursuing the priesthood as well. 11 Therefore, it is you and all your followers who have conspired against the Lord! As for Aaron, who is he that you should complain about him?” Num 16 Most apostates are rebelling against false teachings, separation of families, child abuse, elder abuse by the Wt. securing inheritance that should rightly go to the children and many other valid reasons. Korah was challenging who God chose as priests. As the Watchtower states, he wanted to “secure the priesthood”. Here’s the story as told in your magazine. “Loyally Submitting to Godly Authority” https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563 It states: “Who make up this royal priesthood today? The apostle Peter answers that question in his first inspired letter. To anointed members of the body of Christ, Peter wrote: “You are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies’ of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.” (1 Peter 2:9) Ever so smoothly, it presents the hidden challenge against God’s choice of priests – “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.” But notice in paragraph 20, that the challenge, the battle against God’s choice of priests, continues covertly by your organization. “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust.” Yes, it is stating that those who cannot “challenge” this man-made ruling that the elders are to act as priests, are the anointed priests and “living stones” of God’s Temple in Spirit! (1 Cor 3:16,17) Didn’t Moses challenge – confront, dispute - Korah’s blasphemous “challenge” against the priesthood? And in the end, was Korah’s desire to secure the priesthood upheld by God, or was the Aaronic priesthood upheld by God? “…just as the Lord commanded him through Moses. It was to be a reminder for the Israelites that no unauthorized person outside the lineage of Aaron should approach to offer incense before the Lord and become like Korah and his followers.” Num 16:14 Few would dare challenge an established elder body for such a reason, except the chosen priests of God. Any who do challenge it, are tossed out and deemed spiritually dead as an apostate. (John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7; 13:15) Those few others who do see that the “man of lawlessness”/elder body “sits”/rules in the Temple dwelling of the Father, have left the organization. They perceive the “abomination standing in the holy place”. Matt 24:14,15; Rev 13:1,5-7,18 The leadership has apostatized against God’s decrees concerning His priesthood, and are ruling as “wicked slaves” over JWs and the anointed priesthood. (Matt 24:48-51) It is JWs who are the blind ones, and who have rejected God’s laws which are written on the anointed heart, for the laws of men. (1 John 2:27;Heb 8:10) How, can anyone read that Watchtower and not see that the elder body has "secured the priesthood"? They have to be spiritually blinded by evil. (1 Tim 4:1) 2 Thess 2:1-4 – “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him: We ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be easily upset or troubled, either by a prophecy or by a message or by a letter supposedly from us, alleging that the day of the Lord has come. (1914) 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s temple, proclaiming that he himself is God.” The coming of the lawless one is based on Satan’s working, with every kind of miracle, both signs and wonders serving the lie, 10 and with every wicked deception among those who are perishing. They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12 so that all will be condemned—those who did not believe the truth but delighted in unrighteousness. Is the organization preaching that JWs are “Loyally Submitting to Godly Authority”? Or, to the godly authority of an idol where the “man of lawlessness” resides? The Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place

Can you explain why you use the name "Dmitar"? This name derives from the Ancient Greek name “Dēmḗtrios (Δημήτριος)”, from “Dēmḗtēr (Δημήτηρ)”, composed of two elements: “gê (γῆ)” (Proto-Albanian / Illyrian “*dže / dhe”) (land, earth, country, soil) plus “mā́tēr ‎(μᾱ́τηρ) mḗtēr (μήτηρ) (mother, source or origin). In turn the name means “mother-earth, of Demeter, dedicated to Demeter, son of Demeter”. Demeter is the goddess of corn, grain, and the harvest. She is the daughter of Cronus and Rhea. It is Demeter that makes the crops grow each year. The first loaf of bread from the harvest is sacrificed to her. Demeter is the goddess of the earth, of agriculture, and of fertility in general. Sacred to her are livestock and agricultural products, the poppy, the narcissus and the crane. Demeter is intimately associated with the seasons. Her daughter Persephone was abducted by Hades to be his wife in the underworld. https://www.name-doctor.com/name-dmitar-meaning-of-dmitar-9419.html

Among Israel, there were many more bad kings than there were good ones. When the bad kings ruled, idolatry and the sins of the people prevented God from protecting them. There were false prophets who misled the people, and God would say, "don't listen to them". (Jer 23:16) The organization's leadership, expect each JW to listen to them, even if their have taught a lie for years. Their word wields more power over JWs, than the advice, the warning, the words of God and His Son. The people suffered when the rulership became domineering, abusive, breaking their covenant with God which required obedience to His laws. Only remnants of repentant ones, who realized their sins and called out to God for help, were taken back with open arms. That cannot be translated into "apostates" returning to an organization that has told lies from the beginning. The Wt's "kings" who rule over 8 million people, are domineering, abusive, and have broken their covenant with God by instituting man-made rules necessary for the operation of an organization. That is the same pattern that has occurred in the scriptures. God's full laws in Christ have been broken by the insertion of just one of the Wt's many doctrines of men. Doctrines that are forever changing and are never to be found correct. They have added and taken away from the word of God and JWs tolerate it. No, God does not allow His Spirit to bless a people who reject the teachings of Jesus Christ, and condone the teachings of men. Although they may speak of them, the leadership has rejected God and His Son. When the nation of Israel was sinning and committing idolatry, out of one side of their mouth, they would also praise God. That didn't go well in Elijah's day. (1 Kings 18:21) 1 Sam 8 - So all the elders of Israel gathered together and went to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Therefore, appoint a king to judge us the same as all the other nations have.” 6 When they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” Samuel considered their demand wrong, so he prayed to the Lord. 7 But the Lord told him, “Listen to the people and everything they say to you. They have not rejected you; they have rejected Me as their King. 8 They are doing the same thing to you that they have done to me, since the day I brought them out of Egypt until this day, abandoning Me and worshiping other gods. 9 Listen to them, but solemnly warn them and tell them about the customary rights of the king who will reign over them.” 10 Samuel told all the Lord’s words to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “These are the rights of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and put them to his use in his chariots, on his horses, or running in front of his chariots. 12 He can appoint them for his use as commanders of thousands or commanders of fifties, to plow his ground and reap his harvest, or to make his weapons of war and the equipment for his chariots. 13 He can take your daughters to become perfumers, cooks, and bakers. 14 He can take your best fields, vineyards, and olive orchards and give them to his servants. 15 He can take a tenth of your grain and your vineyards and give them to his officials and servants. 16 He can take your male servants, your female servants, your best cattle,[b] and your donkeys and use them for his work. 17 He can take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves can become his servants. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out because of the king you’ve chosen for yourselves, but the Lord won’t answer you on that day.” 19 The people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We must have a king over us. 20 Then we’ll be like all the other nations: our king will judge us, go out before us, and fight our battles.” 21 Samuel listened to all the people’s words and then repeated them to the Lord. 22 “Listen to them,” the Lord told Samuel. “Appoint a king for them.”

if you provide me with your email, I'll pass it on to Joe, and he can give you his understanding. It does for the Watchtower. 1,424 results for "house-to-house" in regard to the door-to-door ministry, is found on JW website. Maybe you should contact the GB and tell them your feelings about this. This is true. "blueletter bible" is not a Bible, it is a reference point for many translations. In the Wt. are people from every nation, tribe and tongue – those who are not anointed as well as those who are anointed. The "Marriage Feast" is not only open to all exiting the apostate "city" (Wt), but open to nations and tribes of people found all over the world. Matt 22:1-14

I appreciate how the connection is made to Deut 4:6-8, with the failed obedience to the word of God in Christ, by the anointed “Israel” – today's “living stones” of God’s Temple/dwelling in spirit. (Rom 9:6-8,25,26; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16) It is said in the post, “Israel is to be the example for the world to follow”. This is a scripture included in the post: “Indeed, he says, “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel. I will also give you as a light to the nations, that you may be my salvation to the ends of the earth." Isa 49:6 “In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s TEMPLE will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, AND ALL NATIONS WILL STREAM TO IT. 3 Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” THE LAW WILL GO OUT FROM ZION, THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM. Isa 2:2,3 As a JW, I remember well that these scriptures were to mean that nations would stream to the organization, but the organization is not God's Temple. I believed that the membership would continue to grow by leaps and bounds. But it isn't happening. All that they teach are empty lies...stories that have captured the anointed priests of God, who now are silenced under the dominion of men. (Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Rev 13:1,2,5-7,10; 16:13-16) Mal 2:7 says, “For the lips of a priest should maintain knowledge, and people should seek the law from his mouth; for he is the messenger of the Lord of armies.” Yet, in the lofty mountain home of Wt., where the anointed are under the dominance of a wicked slave and a nation of elder “Gentiles”, (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) “Israel” has succumbed to the rules and regulations of these men and their idol “High Place”. They have become like the nations, “serving wood and stone”. Ezek 20:29-38

Written by "Joe", a faithful disciple of Christ. JW’s claim they are fulfilling prophecy of Matthew 24:14 in preaching the good news of the Kingdom, and claim they’re doing this to the whole population of earth. There is one major discrepancy in this scenario, Jesus said the final witness before his return is not to the whole population of earth, but rather it is to be directed to the towns of Israel: “When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”- Matthew 10:23 God always sent prophets to warn of His people’s sins (2 Chronicles 24:19) and has always worked with Israel to repent. Israel knew His laws, as God made them to be an example for others to follow. Deut 4:1-8 “Now, Israel, listen to the statutes and ordinances I am teaching you to follow, so that you may live, enter, and take possession of the land the Lord, the God of your ancestors, is giving you. 2 You must not add anything to what I command you or take anything away from it, so that you may keep the commands of the Lord your God I am giving you. 3 Your eyes have seen what the Lord did at Baal-peor, for the Lord your God destroyed every one of you who followed Baal of Peor. 4 But you who have remained faithful to the Lord your God are all alive today. 5 Look, I have taught you statutes and ordinances as the Lord my God has commanded me, so that you may follow them in the land you are entering to possess. 6 Carefully follow them, for this will show your wisdom and understanding in the eyes of the peoples. When they hear about all these statutes, they will say, ‘This great nation is indeed a wise and understanding people.’ 7 For what great nation is there that has a god near to it as the Lord our God is to us whenever we call to him? 8 And what great nation has righteous statutes and ordinances like this entire law I set before you today?” However, Israel always became rebellious, and relying on their own understandin,g forgot about God, violated His laws, and followed other idolatrous organizations (Deuteronomy 29:26). Israel’s following The Watchtower organization today is no different than early Israel following Baal. God does not have an equal, the Watchtower is not God, and there is no wavering (Isaiah 40:25; 1 Kings 18:21). Since God does not violate his covenant (Psalms 89:34), and certainly does not work with the Watchtower or any other organization, God sent a prophet to warn His people, and unless they change their ways they will suffer the consequences. God’s prophet is to shout out loud like a trumpet blast: "Shout with the voice of a trumpet blast. Shout aloud! Don’t be timid. TELL MY PEOPLE Israel of their sins!" (Isaiah 58:1). God said “tell my people Israel” of their sins, not outsiders; after all, Israel is to be the example for the world to follow (Isaiah 49:1-6), and if all of Israel is flooded in idolatry and fail to follow Jesus’ commands, what example are they setting for others? So, why is the Watchtower calling out everyone else’s sins, but those of the idol itself? Because idols don’t call out idols, and Satan doesn’t oppose himself (Mark 3:26). The same pattern of idolatry is happening today. Again, the rebellious house of Israel has forgotten about God and His laws and have surrendered themselves to the laws of the Watchtower, only following what an apostate governing body and their army of elders say, instead of God’s word. Just one example proves this; they believe being submissive to the organization will save them. The organization can’t save anyone (1 Samuel 12:21; 2 Kings 17:15), it’s God who saves (Isaiah 43:11). They must have forgot that part. There is a trumpet blast today, but it’s not for the whole population of earth, God will judge those outside (1 Corinthians 5:12-13). This trumpet blast is directed right at the towns of Israel (Revelation 18:4; Matthew 24:15), and is a chance for Israel to flee their idolatry of the Watchtower and out of covenant with death, (Isaiah 28:15), and return to their covenant with God (Isaiah 14:1; Jeremiah 32:38). The good news is being preached to spiritual Israel right now, and it won’t be finished before Jesus Christ returns. https://inthenightaflyingscroll.blogspot.com/ https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-good-news-part-one.html http://www.christsdisciple.com/

Your story is exceptionally sad. I am so sorry that you had to go through what you did, but your story is one of hundreds, even thousands in a similar vein, and has happened over the extent of probably most of Wt's history. It cannot be verified with scripture that the Wt. is God's organization. The only "organization" that God sanctifies is His Temple built on Jesus Christ, the apostles and prophets, and all the faithful anointed priests over the centuries, who were sealed into God's dwelling place and heavenly Temple. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10) It is "organized" spiritually, as each anointed one has received a spiritual gift which they are to use in promoting Truth. (1 Cor 12:1-31; Rom 12:3-8; Eph 4:4-13; Rom 15:15,16 It is a spiritual "organization", having nothing to do with money, investments, politics, building - all of which take place in the realm of Satan. Why would Jesus promote any physical, fleshly desire of men in Satan's realm? Jesus is the head of the Temple of God - His organization and dwelling place in Spirit. (John 2:19-21; Matt 16:18; 2 Cor 6:14-18) Watchtower 1990 11/1 p. 26 Our Relative Subjection to the Superior Authorities "As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." The "modern version of idolatry" is looking to "Jehovah's organization" as the way/source of salvation.

I will not use the lettering "Yehovah" OR "Jehovah" to indicate the name of the Father. This is a name formulated by men, not by God.

Well that is an arrogant statement, by thinking that the Wt, which cannot show justice and mercy to victims of child abuse, is acceptable to God. He didn't hesitate to mince words about His people in the past, who did the same thing. I hate, I despise your feasts, and I can’t stand your solemn assemblies. 22 Yes, though you offer me your burnt offerings and meal offerings, I will not accept them; neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat animals. 23 Take away from me the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. 24 But let justice roll on like rivers, and righteousness like a mighty stream. Amos 5 The simple hearts, those who try to live their life by the teachings of Jesus even if they have a few ideas off base, will be judged with righteousness. It is the Wt, which holds God's anointed priesthood who must "teach the people" but don't, (Mal 2:7) - it is they who will face greater judgment and condemnation. Mal 2:8,9,17; Rev 18:4-8

I had to go back through the comment to understand why you said, I can only guess it's because I told @BroRando... I am sure he knew that I was referring to a recent post of his on John 1:1, as well my providing a link to a Bible on the JW website using "Yahweh" and not the word, "Jehovah". But anyway, what you provided will help him understand why I stated: Within your post, it says, "Incidentally, the name "Jehovah" is a modern invention, an English hybrid based on the four Hebrew letters as transliterated into German, JHVH, with the individually transliterated Hebrew vowel-points of "Adonai", e-o-a.) I've been saying that this name, "Jehovah", is a hybrid and not the true accurate name of God. That is why I posted the video, which explains it also. So, I should thank you for the additional information. Thank you.

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But...in 1919, the "Brothers" were refined from false religion and its practices. David Splane said 1919 was when the “testing and refinement of God’s people foretold at Mal 3:1-4, was complete, and that Babylon the Great "fell" that year. But, not completely, apparently. How did Jesus let this practice of a "pagan celebration" that "focuses on pleasures", and "idol worship", slip by for 28 more years?