Witness

How wonderfully loving and merciful those Elders were if this is true ????????? 
SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah Supreme Court heard arguments Monday in a case alleging male leaders of a Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation in Roy forced a 15-year-old girl to listen to a recording of a man raping her in 2008.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/11/9/21557200/utah-supreme-court-case-woman-says-church-made-her-listen-to-audio-of-her-rape-jehovahs-witnesses
“The allegation here is a mental and emotional equivalent of waterboarding,” Justice Deno Himonas said. “I’ve been a judge for a long time and a lawyer for a long time. I’ve never seen, in court, anything like this that’s alleged.”
The woman sued the four elders, the Roy church and the religion’s national organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, in Oden’s 2nd District Court in 2016. She alleges she cried, shook visibly and pleaded for them to stop as they played the recording intermittently over the course of at least four hours in 2008. Their goal was to extract a confession that she had voluntarily engaged in sex outside of marriage, her attorneys contend.
She alleges she was 14 years old when the man, a fellow Jehovah’s Witness, 18, bullied her increasingly and began sexually assaulting her in December 2007. She alleges he raped her several times and provided her congregation’s leaders a recording of one instance.
And they didn't immediately report him to the Police for rape or underage sex ????? 
This religion which is built on God's word and Christ's instructions, with high moral standards ??????? 
 
 

Absolutely! What JWs call “spiritual food” can be divided into two categories.
The first is: Simple and generally accepted moral values that are embedded in the consciousness and conscience of people.
The second is: Theological-administrative doctrinal nomenclature, of Previous and Present Teachings. The Previous Teachings actually, in simple, clear and normal wording means wrong, err, false teachings, apostasy. ....and The Present Teachings means ostensibly correct, something that will be swallowed by some new interpretation in the future.
One of the very obvious and very clear examples of theological misconceptions, is the teaching of the "Generation of 1914." To keep parts of that concept alive, they invented the “Overlapping Generation”.
Similar to 1975 calculations and interpretations that came from WT Administration, JW people do and will react to "Overlapping Generation" in similar way as they did and they do now to 1975.
As  @Emma Rose in "deep wisdom" say: We'd wait and see. Of course, we don't need to wait long. Apologists for WTJWorg already continuously and zealously defend every past and present failure. 

There are two results associated with JW and the year 1975.
The WT administration made great efforts in a spiritual and literal sense to “save” as many people as possible from Armageddon who were expecting at the time. The increase in the number of members (until 1975) was great because the effort invested in preaching was enormous. But the “inflated spiritual food” offered on the GB spiritual table caused a second result after 1975. A major departure from the organization. Yes, members leaving “Noah’s Ark” was a debacle for the New York Administration, for sure. 
In fact, I think that the spiritual condition of the JW members at that time was exactly the same as today's JW and vice versa. JW people are willing to believe in the hope and interpretations of their religious leaders. There was no change, people still want and have to believe in some sort/version of "the truth". As a consequence of such a general state of mind and spirit of the collective and of the majority of individuals in that collective, disappointment is inevitable. 
The WT administration is in a closed circle of constant doctrinal debacles. Bigger and smaller debacles, which in each new generation / version are called "knowledge that multiplies" and "light that shines more and more", "clarifications", "adjustments" etc, etc.
Like all other people, JW members want to believe in God and Justice and a better Future. And it’s a lure/bait that attracts. It is a soil on which many hopes can grow. And that is why it is a powerful means of attracting and keeping people in spiritual captivity, with a few phrases of truth and many misconceptions.
 
 

Did you know that the anointed "Israel" are compared to stars in the heavens?  (Dan 12:3; Phil 2:15; Eph 2:6; Rev 1:20)  An anointed one can be "led away by the error" of lawlessness...and fall from his "stable position".  2 Pet 3:17
They are also described as "wandering stars" -
"These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever."   Jude 1:12,13
The stars that remain in Jesus' "right hand" follow a set course, the path he took. (Rev 1:20) They follow his teachings and do not waver from them.  The proof that the governing leaders are not those stars in Jesus' hand, is their continual "changed course" in teachings.  Don't let their smooth talk convince you of bogus, "new light".  This is evidence that they are "wandering stars", groping in the dark, for new doctrine to replace the old.  
 

Thank you so much for such a great explanation.  What caught my attention was your use of “soil” as describing the “lure/bait” that attracts.  That bait is not enough for a solid faith in truth to thrive.  The soil is poor in nutrients – truth; other than providing the initial boost, received at the outset.  When I think of myself when first entering the organization, I felt that initial boost, but as the years went by, the joy dissipated, the attention to be given to the organization became drudgery.  The “soil” was not fortified over the years, just as it isn’t today.  It lacks the “bread of life” and the “living water” from Jesus Christ.  Men who rely on their own understanding – their own doctrine -  cannot provide such things.  John 6:35; 7:38
“Their worship of me is empty, because they teach human rules as doctrines.’”
Empty – “vain, fruitless, folly”, which results in “soil”, not fit to grow a genuine and nourished faith, in the Father. 
If JWs could only see that the organization runs solely on the doctrine of men.  As you say, “disappointment is inevitable”. 
 

Did you know that the anointed "Israel" are compared to stars in the heavens?  (Dan 12:3; Phil 2:15; Eph 2:6; Rev 1:20)  An anointed one can be "led away by the error" of lawlessness...and fall from his "stable position".  2 Pet 3:17
They are also described as "wandering stars" -
"These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever."   Jude 1:12,13
The stars that remain in Jesus' "right hand" follow a set course, the path he took. (Rev 1:20) They follow his teachings and do not waver from them.  The proof that the governing leaders are not those stars in Jesus' hand, is their continual "changed course" in teachings.  Don't let their smooth talk convince you of bogus, "new light".  This is evidence that they are "wandering stars", groping in the dark, for new doctrine to replace the old.  
 

Thank you so much for such a great explanation.  What caught my attention was your use of “soil” as describing the “lure/bait” that attracts.  That bait is not enough for a solid faith in truth to thrive.  The soil is poor in nutrients – truth; other than providing the initial boost, received at the outset.  When I think of myself when first entering the organization, I felt that initial boost, but as the years went by, the joy dissipated, the attention to be given to the organization became drudgery.  The “soil” was not fortified over the years, just as it isn’t today.  It lacks the “bread of life” and the “living water” from Jesus Christ.  Men who rely on their own understanding – their own doctrine -  cannot provide such things.  John 6:35; 7:38
“Their worship of me is empty, because they teach human rules as doctrines.’”
Empty – “vain, fruitless, folly”, which results in “soil”, not fit to grow a genuine and nourished faith, in the Father. 
If JWs could only see that the organization runs solely on the doctrine of men.  As you say, “disappointment is inevitable”. 
 

You are told that God’s Spirit is with this organization. (Rev 13:15)  Yet, history proves that with each false prophesy and failed teaching by your leaders, God’s Spirit is not resting in the organization. (Prov 12:22) The God of Truth would not lie, and neither would Jesus Christ, who is Truth. (John 1:14,17;14:6)  If you say God is with you, all JWs are liars themselves. (Prov 13:5) In your mind and hearts, you have blurred the boundary line, between truth and lies.  It should be distinct within your heart.  You should be appalled when realizing your leaders have lied to you.  Instead, it’s like a dream that you awake from and forget about, as you continue through your day. If a poisonous snake crossed your path when hiking, wouldn’t you remember that day clearly, and how you made a rapid escape from its strike?  Why is it, that a lying tongue of your leaders, causes no recoil on the part of a JW?
If you continue to love a lie, or excuse the lies taught by your leaders – lies that comprise the foundation and progressive teachings of the organization, where does that get you in the end?  Do you realize there are specific spiritual references made to a people who turn a blind eye to falsehoods, as I see you are doing here?  (Hos 11:12; Jer 5:31)
Every falsely projected date, every teaching that has changed course several times over the years, is evidence of a lying spirit among you. Two contrasting spirits cannot reside side by side. (John 16:13; 1 Tim 4:1,2) Either this organization IS PURE TRUTH; or it is A COMPLETE LIE, masquerading as if it is truth; and since false teachings are your history, the father of the lie directs this organization – an entity that JWs have come to “love”.   (Matt 7:15-20; John 8:44; Rev 13:1,2,11,12) (2 Thess 2:9-12) (2 Cor 11:13-15)
The anointed have the responsibility to preserve the teachings/laws of Jesus Christ, who would never encourage his servants to tell a falsehood. (Ps 119:160;Mal 2:7; Heb 8:10)  In him, there is NO LIE. (1 John 2:21) He is the Spirit of Truth. (John 16:13)  Since the anointed inside are subservient to the elder body, they have failed in following God’s will to preserve TRUTH IN CHRIST. (1 John 2:27)   They have lost their “salt” – a spiritual preservative; and are trampled down by the “man of lawlessness”/elder body who “represents the royal priesthood”. They cannot “shine” their lamp of truth when elders rule over them, extinguishing any Spirit of Truth they have received upon their anointing. (Matt 5:13-16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) 
The speakers in the video may or may not have been anointed. But, because they promoted a lie, they have a judgment by Christ waiting for them. (Matt 7:23; 2 Tim 2:15) Their safe haven is not the organization, or their willingness to continue as a good “elder”.   If they leave the entire environment of falsehoods and repent before Christ, their judgment takes on a different outlook.  (Ps 145:18; John 8:32; Col 3:9)
 So, humility is realizing the difference between a lie and the truth.  Arrogance is ignoring that difference, believing that God does the same thing. (Prov 26:12)  An anointed one’s humility expressed before God, is by upholding Truth, and tearing down the lies. The apostles were humble men, but powerful in Spirit, to expose and destroy lies spoken against Jesus Christ and the Father. (John 17:17; Eph 6:10,11; 2 Cor 10:4,5;1 Pet 5:8,9) Jesus did the same thing before the Scribes and Pharisees.  To walk in the path of Jesus Christ, requires upholding TRUTH, at whatever it costs us – whether it is slander, persecution by our own people, or fleshly death. (Matt 5:10; John 15:18; 2 Cor 12:10; 2 Tim 3:2)
Those too cowardly to speak for Truth, do not have a pleasant spiritual outcome. 
 
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”  Rev 22:12-15
“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”  Rev 21:8
 
 
 
 
 
 

You are told that God’s Spirit is with this organization. (Rev 13:15)  Yet, history proves that with each false prophesy and failed teaching by your leaders, God’s Spirit is not resting in the organization. (Prov 12:22) The God of Truth would not lie, and neither would Jesus Christ, who is Truth. (John 1:14,17;14:6)  If you say God is with you, all JWs are liars themselves. (Prov 13:5) In your mind and hearts, you have blurred the boundary line, between truth and lies.  It should be distinct within your heart.  You should be appalled when realizing your leaders have lied to you.  Instead, it’s like a dream that you awake from and forget about, as you continue through your day. If a poisonous snake crossed your path when hiking, wouldn’t you remember that day clearly, and how you made a rapid escape from its strike?  Why is it, that a lying tongue of your leaders, causes no recoil on the part of a JW?
If you continue to love a lie, or excuse the lies taught by your leaders – lies that comprise the foundation and progressive teachings of the organization, where does that get you in the end?  Do you realize there are specific spiritual references made to a people who turn a blind eye to falsehoods, as I see you are doing here?  (Hos 11:12; Jer 5:31)
Every falsely projected date, every teaching that has changed course several times over the years, is evidence of a lying spirit among you. Two contrasting spirits cannot reside side by side. (John 16:13; 1 Tim 4:1,2) Either this organization IS PURE TRUTH; or it is A COMPLETE LIE, masquerading as if it is truth; and since false teachings are your history, the father of the lie directs this organization – an entity that JWs have come to “love”.   (Matt 7:15-20; John 8:44; Rev 13:1,2,11,12) (2 Thess 2:9-12) (2 Cor 11:13-15)
The anointed have the responsibility to preserve the teachings/laws of Jesus Christ, who would never encourage his servants to tell a falsehood. (Ps 119:160;Mal 2:7; Heb 8:10)  In him, there is NO LIE. (1 John 2:21) He is the Spirit of Truth. (John 16:13)  Since the anointed inside are subservient to the elder body, they have failed in following God’s will to preserve TRUTH IN CHRIST. (1 John 2:27)   They have lost their “salt” – a spiritual preservative; and are trampled down by the “man of lawlessness”/elder body who “represents the royal priesthood”. They cannot “shine” their lamp of truth when elders rule over them, extinguishing any Spirit of Truth they have received upon their anointing. (Matt 5:13-16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) 
The speakers in the video may or may not have been anointed. But, because they promoted a lie, they have a judgment by Christ waiting for them. (Matt 7:23; 2 Tim 2:15) Their safe haven is not the organization, or their willingness to continue as a good “elder”.   If they leave the entire environment of falsehoods and repent before Christ, their judgment takes on a different outlook.  (Ps 145:18; John 8:32; Col 3:9)
 So, humility is realizing the difference between a lie and the truth.  Arrogance is ignoring that difference, believing that God does the same thing. (Prov 26:12)  An anointed one’s humility expressed before God, is by upholding Truth, and tearing down the lies. The apostles were humble men, but powerful in Spirit, to expose and destroy lies spoken against Jesus Christ and the Father. (John 17:17; Eph 6:10,11; 2 Cor 10:4,5;1 Pet 5:8,9) Jesus did the same thing before the Scribes and Pharisees.  To walk in the path of Jesus Christ, requires upholding TRUTH, at whatever it costs us – whether it is slander, persecution by our own people, or fleshly death. (Matt 5:10; John 15:18; 2 Cor 12:10; 2 Tim 3:2)
Those too cowardly to speak for Truth, do not have a pleasant spiritual outcome. 
 
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”  Rev 22:12-15
“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”  Rev 21:8
 
 
 
 
 
 

"Self-professed", what an ignorant thing to say.  Do God's anointed servants need the approval of men before they profess that they are anointed?   Gal 1:10   I suppose in the organization, that is how it is.  I know of anointed ones who were discouraged by the elder body to partake of the emblems.  I know of one who quit partaking because of elder pressure against them.  (Rev 13:5-7)  I really don't care what anyone wants to believe about myself. It matters most, what Jesus Christ sees as my servitude toward him and God.   I do care that JWs put the Truth of Christ, before the counterfeit "truth" of a wicked slave/Harlot, and the organization it directs.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11-17; 16:13-16)

Tell me where in God's Word, it says setting dates for Armageddon is acceptable.  Tell me where in God's Word, men's doctrine trumps the doctrine of Jesus Christ.  Where do the scriptures say, it's okay to "lead my people astray" with delusions from the minds of men.  Jer 23:32
Tell me where it is acceptable by God and Christ to call a teaching, "truth" when time proves it to be a lie.
"False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction. 2 Even so, many will follow their immoral ways; and because of what they do, others will speak evil of the Way of truth. 3 In their greed these false teachers will make a profit out of telling you made-up stories. For a long time now their Judge has been ready, and their Destroyer has been wide awake!" 2 Pet 2:1-3
 

"Self-professed", what an ignorant thing to say.  Do God's anointed servants need the approval of men before they profess that they are anointed?   Gal 1:10   I suppose in the organization, that is how it is.  I know of anointed ones who were discouraged by the elder body to partake of the emblems.  I know of one who quit partaking because of elder pressure against them.  (Rev 13:5-7)  I really don't care what anyone wants to believe about myself. It matters most, what Jesus Christ sees as my servitude toward him and God.   I do care that JWs put the Truth of Christ, before the counterfeit "truth" of a wicked slave/Harlot, and the organization it directs.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11-17; 16:13-16)

You are told that God’s Spirit is with this organization. (Rev 13:15)  Yet, history proves that with each false prophesy and failed teaching by your leaders, God’s Spirit is not resting in the organization. (Prov 12:22) The God of Truth would not lie, and neither would Jesus Christ, who is Truth. (John 1:14,17;14:6)  If you say God is with you, all JWs are liars themselves. (Prov 13:5) In your mind and hearts, you have blurred the boundary line, between truth and lies.  It should be distinct within your heart.  You should be appalled when realizing your leaders have lied to you.  Instead, it’s like a dream that you awake from and forget about, as you continue through your day. If a poisonous snake crossed your path when hiking, wouldn’t you remember that day clearly, and how you made a rapid escape from its strike?  Why is it, that a lying tongue of your leaders, causes no recoil on the part of a JW?
If you continue to love a lie, or excuse the lies taught by your leaders – lies that comprise the foundation and progressive teachings of the organization, where does that get you in the end?  Do you realize there are specific spiritual references made to a people who turn a blind eye to falsehoods, as I see you are doing here?  (Hos 11:12; Jer 5:31)
Every falsely projected date, every teaching that has changed course several times over the years, is evidence of a lying spirit among you. Two contrasting spirits cannot reside side by side. (John 16:13; 1 Tim 4:1,2) Either this organization IS PURE TRUTH; or it is A COMPLETE LIE, masquerading as if it is truth; and since false teachings are your history, the father of the lie directs this organization – an entity that JWs have come to “love”.   (Matt 7:15-20; John 8:44; Rev 13:1,2,11,12) (2 Thess 2:9-12) (2 Cor 11:13-15)
The anointed have the responsibility to preserve the teachings/laws of Jesus Christ, who would never encourage his servants to tell a falsehood. (Ps 119:160;Mal 2:7; Heb 8:10)  In him, there is NO LIE. (1 John 2:21) He is the Spirit of Truth. (John 16:13)  Since the anointed inside are subservient to the elder body, they have failed in following God’s will to preserve TRUTH IN CHRIST. (1 John 2:27)   They have lost their “salt” – a spiritual preservative; and are trampled down by the “man of lawlessness”/elder body who “represents the royal priesthood”. They cannot “shine” their lamp of truth when elders rule over them, extinguishing any Spirit of Truth they have received upon their anointing. (Matt 5:13-16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) 
The speakers in the video may or may not have been anointed. But, because they promoted a lie, they have a judgment by Christ waiting for them. (Matt 7:23; 2 Tim 2:15) Their safe haven is not the organization, or their willingness to continue as a good “elder”.   If they leave the entire environment of falsehoods and repent before Christ, their judgment takes on a different outlook.  (Ps 145:18; John 8:32; Col 3:9)
 So, humility is realizing the difference between a lie and the truth.  Arrogance is ignoring that difference, believing that God does the same thing. (Prov 26:12)  An anointed one’s humility expressed before God, is by upholding Truth, and tearing down the lies. The apostles were humble men, but powerful in Spirit, to expose and destroy lies spoken against Jesus Christ and the Father. (John 17:17; Eph 6:10,11; 2 Cor 10:4,5;1 Pet 5:8,9) Jesus did the same thing before the Scribes and Pharisees.  To walk in the path of Jesus Christ, requires upholding TRUTH, at whatever it costs us – whether it is slander, persecution by our own people, or fleshly death. (Matt 5:10; John 15:18; 2 Cor 12:10; 2 Tim 3:2)
Those too cowardly to speak for Truth, do not have a pleasant spiritual outcome. 
 
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”  Rev 22:12-15
“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”  Rev 21:8
 
 
 
 
 
 

So, he was disappointed, because his impetuous assumptions made in the name of God, failed.  Never mind those who suffered because of his lying doctrine.  (Matt 15:9)  And he is termed a "faithful brother", because he didn't leave the organization?  While those who saw the folly of his teachings when they failed, and left the organization perhaps without a house to live in and a job, are the unfaithful ones?  
The meaning of "truth" and "faithful" according to JWs, are not in line with God's Word.  They are not in line with Jesus Christ's teachings.  
 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies. Prov 14:5
 
 
 
 
 

Your leaders who made predictions that were false?

Someone on the exjw reddit forum put this video together and offered to share. With the help of the present GB, the debacle of 1975 has modern JWs left in the dark, about the truth surrounding its announcement as the date for Armageddon. This includes those JWs who have conveniently forgotten what that time period of teaching involved. 
Jer 23:16 (MSG) - A Message from God-of-the-Angel-Armies: “Don’t listen to the sermons of the prophets. It’s all hot air. Lies, lies, and more lies. They make it all up. Not a word they speak comes from me. They preach their ‘Everything Will Turn Out Fine’ sermon to congregations with no taste for God, Their ‘Nothing Bad Will Ever Happen to You’ sermon to people who are set in their own ways."    

1975 Convention Talks.mp4

“Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” Rev 21:2
It is interesting how our past nagging questions we may have had as JWs over the years, resurface once we learn of the true understanding of God’s Word. I once asked an elder before a meeting, if he could explain Rev 21:2. How would the holy city, a “heavenly” organization of God, Jesus, the angels and the 144,000, come down to earth from heaven? It is taught that not even Jesus will return to the earth after Armageddon, and certainly not the “144,000” anointed, sealed in heaven. (Rev 14:1)
(Gen 28:12; John 1:51; Heb 1:6; 9:28)
The elder could only tell me that the earth and its inhabitants would be a recipient of its heavenly blessings, but not that “New Jerusalem”, the “heavenly organization”, would exist on the earth. I understand now that this discrepancy was an early subconscious crack developing in in my spiritual cache of Wt. teachings, that I had once come to trust. (Ezek 13:3,5,7) The truth about this scripture was purposefully stifled, to make room for the lie. That lie is the organization; a counterfeit “great mountain”, that would survive Armageddon and be the new “land” in the Kingdom.
Down to today, the organization is said to be the nucleus, the “new earth” that had its beginning in 1919. It is important to remember, that 1919 carried with it, a large bag of rejected and forgotten doctrine that would surprise JWs today…if, they researched their history. They may even realize that the promotion of their “house of pure worship” as beginning in that year, is an outrageous lie.
(Isa 65:17-19; 2 Pet 3:7,13; Ps 37:10,29; 2 Cor 5:17; Rev 21:1,2; 19:7,8)
This inhabited “land”, together with its buildings and congregations, is taught to be God’s house where JWs reside in a spiritual paradise. (2 Kings 17:9-12; Isa 46:5) (Ezek 13:10; 1 Thess 5:3)
Micah 4:1,2 is used to support the organization’s lie:
“Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
That the mountain of the Lord’s house ( The Greek word means “dwelling habitation, temple”)
Shall be established on the top of the mountains,
And shall be exalted above the hills;
And peoples shall flow to it.
2 Many nations shall come and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
To the house of the God of Jacob;
He will teach us His ways,
And we shall walk in His paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.”
In John 14:4,23 Jesus said,
“In My Father’s house are many dwellings; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.”
The dwellings that Jesus had in mind were not in the form of an earthly organization 2,000 years into the future. If God questioned David’s desire to build Him a house, why would He desire earthly habitations today? (2 Sam 7:6,7)
“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make our dwelling place with him.”
Throughout the history of God’s people under covenant, the “dwelling”/house of God had always been the tabernacle/tent and the temple. That dwelling place of Spirit changed with the coming of Jesus, from the earthly, physical temple, to a temple built with “living stones”. (Acts 7:48,49; John 2:19-21; 1 Pet 2:5,6; Eph 2:19-22)
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and the Spirit of God dwells in you?” 1 Cor 3:16
At the rejection of His Son, God made it vividly clear of His rejection, of a house that had become filled with blasphemy. The curtain enclosing the Most Holy, the sacred abode of God, was torn apart at the time of Jesus’ death. (John 8:40; Matt 21:37-45; 27:50,51) Jesus predicted the end of God’s promise made with Israel as a nation, stating that what the Jewish leaders had self-righteously ‘created’, would no longer have any connection with the Father. (Ezek 8:6; Jer 22:5; Matt 24:2; Mar 7:6,7; Matt 21:43,42; 23:37,38)
“Listen carefully: your house is being left to you desolate [completely abandoned by God and destitute of His protection]!” Matt 23:38 AMP
Mount Zion was a reference to the city and temple of Jerusalem. The nation of Israel, God’s “land” was referred to as “Daughter Zion”. (Isaiah 8:18; Psalm 74:2; Jer 3:14) (Zech 9:9)
Under the New Covenant, a spiritual mountain called “New Jerusalem” - the Temple and House of God - was established on the Body of Christ. (John 4:21-24; Gal 4:22-26,28, 31; Heb 8:6; 1 Cor 12:27; 3:16)
This did not require buildings or any organizational efforts by men, since as Jesus told his foundation stones of God’s House, it was he and his Spirit, who would prepare THEM as “dwelling places”, in his Father’s House. (John 14:7; 1 Cor 6:19; Eph 2:10; Phil 1:6; Heb 3:6; 13:20,21; Col 1:19)
“Daughter Zion” became a new promise, a “new creation”, and God’s dwelling place in Spirit. The selection of a new spiritual priesthood to serve God under Jesus their High Priest, had begun. (1 Pet 2:5; Rev 5:9,10)
Over the following 2,000 years, God would specifically choose individuals to become His spiritual dwelling - His inhabited “land’ and “holy city”. (Rev 14:1) These individuals are a household of priests/kings, prepared as the Bride of Christ. ( 1 John 2:27; 1 Cor 3:9; 2 Cor 11:2; Eph 2:20; Eph 5:23-27,30,32)
It was not until this Temple was reaching completion that a counterfeit “Zion” appeared, kindled by the desire of false prophets, who had left their covenant in Christ. (Zech 5:5-11; Isa 28:15; Prov 5:3,4; 1 Cor 6:15,16; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 8:10,11;13:11; 17:1-3,5)  
To clarify, the organization has split the definition of Zion into two parts. One is strictly a “heavenly organization”, where the 144,000 are said to reside. The other, is the earthly organization that sails through Armageddon and keeps building its “house”/houses, while apparently receiving direction through Holy Spirit. One priesthood will reign in heaven, while a counterfeit “priesthood” in the elder body, will reign as princes on the earth; unless this doctrine changes with “new light”, once the Harlot/governing leaders are removed. (Rev 17:12,13,15-18)
Always, what we visually see with our eyes, can hold more instant gratification than what we must “see” spiritually. (1 Cor 2:14) The concept of God’s House as the organization, has developed using visual appeal, and seems to be the mountain of Micah 4:1,2 to be established in the last days. However, within this blasphemous house, God’s authentic “house” of “living stones” has accepted the seemingly indestructible, mighty, yet counterfeit mountain…as belonging to God, and vital for their salvation. (Isa 46:3-5; 57:13) They have forgotten that they are specifically, the dwelling, “land”, home, of God’s Spirit. (2 Cor 6:14-18; 1 Cor 3:9) As a result, they have no idea of how their role would fulfill Rev 21:2.
All this confusion of what and who comprise the House of God, is accomplished at the determined hand of Satan. (Luke 22:31; Matt 24:3-5.21-25; 1 Pet 5:8; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,6,7,10; 12:3,4)
Without being fully cognizant of their role as God’s House, they have easily slipped into idolatry by putting their hope in what men have created. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13: 4,11,12) The promise of salvation through the earthly organization, is chosen over their sole salvation in Christ; and chosen over his promised Bride/Holy City coming down out of heaven to be with mankind. (Isa 62:5; Rev 3:12; 21:9,10)
Yes, the dwelling/House of God will be on the earth, as well as in heaven. The anointed angel messengers will serve Jesus as the “new creation” – both human and spirit. (Ps 37:11,29; 2 Cor 5:17; 1 Cor 15:44; 1 Pet 1:23; Heb 12:22,23)
“And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.” Rev 21:3
The early tabernacle was a mobile dwelling of God’s Spirit. (1 Chron 17:5) How fitting that God returns to His first plan to be with His people, before men desired to build Him a temple. (Acts 7:48-50) In Christ, His tabernacle/temple has become a mobile, spiritual dwelling, through the presence of His anointed, sealed priesthood on earth and in heaven, serving with Jesus Christ. As priests, they are to teach the people God’s laws. (Ezek 44:23; Mal 2:7)
Could they fulfill this requirement of teaching, if they never stepped foot on the earth to be among God’s children? (Isa 66:7-11; Rev 22:17)
Micah specifies this:
“For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.”
The counterfeit priesthood/elder body teach by the corrupt doctrine and laws of men, and who judge in unrighteousness, blasphemy, and in partiality. (Jer 8:8; Ps 35:19,20; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:5,6)
There will be no room in the Kingdom of God for falsehoods spoken by men, for their idolatry and rejection of God’s Temple. (Zech 8:3; Rev 14:1,4,5;22:14,15) There will be no more counterfeit pursuits created by Satan to destroy the New Covenant in Jesus Christ, and the faithful members of his Body. (Rev 19:20; 20:9,10; 1 Cor 15:24-26)
In 1952, the organization stated that if a religion is not teaching God’s will accurately, then its members are “missing the mark”, regardless of how sincerely they may conform to the organization’s will. It used Matt 7:23 to explain that the contrary desires of persons or organizations are lawlessness in God’s sight.
The “man of lawlessness” raises itself up in the Temple of God by “sitting”/ruling over the anointed priesthood. It is the composite “Gentile” elder body that willingly “acts” as priests. (Dan 11:31; Matt 24:15; Rev 13:1)( 2 Chron 13:9;23:6,7)
What would the early writers of this 68 year-old article think, if they could perceive that their words would eventually point to their own organization as the source of “lawlessness” in the last days? Would they realize that this organization is a “rebellious house”, soon to be left desolate? (2 Thess 2:3,4; Matt 5:13; Rev 11:1,2;Matt 7:24-27; Rev 8:8)
Ezek 12:1,2 - The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, you are living among a rebellious house. They have eyes to see but do not see, and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious house.”
Ezekiel 13 describes the false divinations uttered by the prophets of Israel, as a “flimsy wall” of failed predictions, repeatedly “whitewashed” amid promises of peace. (Ezek 13:10,15,16; 1 Thess 5:3) As a sign to the people, Ezekiel was told to dig through a wall, and take his belongings with him. (Ezek 12:1-6)
 
Pearl Doxsey explains:
When we ourselves "bore a hole" in the "wall" we once trusted in, this is the exact "hole" we leave through, just as Ezekiel did. Our minds and hearts abandon the wicked "city" which exists within the confines of those teachings. The very "hole" we have dug away, is the one our mind and heart "leaves" through. The "hole" in the "wall" is the lie we have discovered, and the very hole which frees us, and provides our route of escape.
Ezekiel leaves in "darkness", because this is how spirit reveals these things to us, and where our private decisions and conviction are conceived (Matt 10:26-28).
The more we dig (as Ezekiel did), the flimsier that wall becomes. If we never dig, we stay imprisoned inside falsehood. Remember too, the first things Ezekiel saw, were the "elders" inside the Temple (only the priests belong in there --'disgusting thing in holy place' –(Mark 13:14; 2 Chron 23:6; 13:9; Num 3:10) and their disgusting images/idols (Ezek 8:3,5,6,9-11).
These events are prophesied for the end as well (Rev 13:14,8; 2 Thess 2:4; Dan 5:23; Rev 11:2; Matt 24:15; Dan 9:26,27).
The "holy place/holy ones/holy city" in the time of the end, are the anointed priests (1 Cor 3:16; 1 Pet 2:9,5; Rev 5:10; Eph 2:21,22).
These are being trampled and displaced by the trespassing Gentiles, whose image is being worshiped by all God's people (Dan 10:14; 11:31-39,45; 12:7-13; Rev 13:7,8)
Pearl Doxsey 
However, in the last days…
“the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established
as the highest of the mountains;
it will be exalted above the hills,
and all nations will stream to it.
3 Many peoples will come and say,
‘Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
to the temple of the God of Jacob.
He will teach us his ways,
so that we may walk in his paths.’
The law will go out from Zion,
the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.”
He will judge between the nations
and will settle disputes for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore.
5 Come, descendants of Jacob,
let us walk in the light of the Lord.” Isa 2:2-5
 
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The Destroyer and his Family
Jezebel
Wall/Christ’s Side
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"Self-professed", what an ignorant thing to say.  Do God's anointed servants need the approval of men before they profess that they are anointed?   Gal 1:10   I suppose in the organization, that is how it is.  I know of anointed ones who were discouraged by the elder body to partake of the emblems.  I know of one who quit partaking because of elder pressure against them.  (Rev 13:5-7)  I really don't care what anyone wants to believe about myself. It matters most, what Jesus Christ sees as my servitude toward him and God.   I do care that JWs put the Truth of Christ, before the counterfeit "truth" of a wicked slave/Harlot, and the organization it directs.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11-17; 16:13-16)

Tell me where in God's Word, it says setting dates for Armageddon is acceptable.  Tell me where in God's Word, men's doctrine trumps the doctrine of Jesus Christ.  Where do the scriptures say, it's okay to "lead my people astray" with delusions from the minds of men.  Jer 23:32
Tell me where it is acceptable by God and Christ to call a teaching, "truth" when time proves it to be a lie.
"False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction. 2 Even so, many will follow their immoral ways; and because of what they do, others will speak evil of the Way of truth. 3 In their greed these false teachers will make a profit out of telling you made-up stories. For a long time now their Judge has been ready, and their Destroyer has been wide awake!" 2 Pet 2:1-3
 

Will the "world to come" preach the doctrine of men?  Will the "world to come" have room for falsehoods as evident in the video?  Did you even listen to the video?
Only the blameless and upright will be found in the Kingdom of God - those who do not lead men, to believe their false prophesy.   If you think otherwise, what god do you worship?  Ps 119:1

I'm not alone at all, Derek.  The true preaching work in the last days, before the Son of Man comes,  is to "Israel", not the nation, but spiritual "Israel" who are the anointed ones. (Rom 9:6-8; Gal 4:26-28; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Isa 43:10) 
This is the scripture:  Matt 10:23   "Jacob"/"Israel" will be restored outside of the organization of falsehoods. (Isa 10:20,21; Matt 17:11)
You and all the anointed with JWs, are tolerating falsehoods.  You are locked into the "empty philosophy", of a Harlot, believing that the organization belongs to God. (Col 2:8)  You believe that without this organization, salvation is not possible.  (Rev 13:4)  This is the only organization that has the ability to "wage war against the saints", since only the WT knows what and who the genuine anointed are.  (Rev 13:7)   This is what I "preach" about, along with many others who see the truth.  Rev 11:1-3

I agree. But where did they get the date from? Those who were serving with a date in mind didn't just pull the date out of thin air did they?

Let’s see, in this video clip, seven Wt leaders, including Fred Franz and his crafty speech about it, promoted 1975 as the coming year for Armageddon.  I wonder if these leaders were all purged from the organization.  Certainly Franz wasn’t.
If we look before that that time to the past prediction dates of Russel and Rutherford, I don’t see that they were "cleansed" from your organization either.
But, you are speaking of those who followed their teachings, aren’t you.  The leadership is exempt, but the people who must obey the leadership’s teachings are considered the culls if they realize that after all the failed dates of Armageddon, (and teachings needing “new light”) this organization is built on false promises.  That seems rather unfair, don’t you think?  
Does God see the wisdom in those who reject falsehoods and the teachers who speak them, or those who continue to tolerate false promises and those who teach them, as you are doing?
The Harlot in the last days is spiritually immoral, which means she pours into her cup, “wine” or teachings that are deceiving.  To those whom she shares this cup of spiritual falsehoods, the target of blame falls on them when her lies don’t come true.  She softens the sins she herself has committed with more false promises of “peace”. (Ezek 13:10-12; 1 Thess 5:3)  This is how she deceives you, into drinking more of her wine.  She instills fear and guilt and abuse, if you were to reject her wine – her teachings.   Rev 17:1-5
 I suggest you put down the Harlot’s cup, and sober up. Instead of looking at those who have left the organization as the culls, begin looking at your own leaders and their faults.  God has NEVER condoned lies from the mouth of teachers that He would send. (John 8:44; Matt 24:4; 1 Tim 4:1)  God has NEVER expected people to tolerate them.  It is the wise ones, who know when to cleanse themselves of the organization’s lies.  Why are you excusing your leaders for creating lies and then expecting you to accept them?  Have you forgotten how many people can adversely be affected by one lie that they built their life around?  Have you forgotten, that those who sold all of their goods to prepare for 1975, were commended by your leaders for doing so? 
 
I do not sit with the deceitful,
    nor do I associate with hypocrites.
5 I abhor the assembly of evildoers
    and refuse to sit with the wicked.  Ps 26:4,5
 
 
 

I quote @Arauna 
One cannot compare this to JWs. We allow people to choose their religion - but we cannot condone those who are traitors to Jehovah.  We do not mix with those... but we do not stop them from practicing their new choices. 
Reading this actually made me feel sick.
How dare you think you have the right to condemn people. You are so full of hate from the teachings of your GB. It is your GB that instills this type of belief into JWs. 
The CCJW does not own Almighty God or Jesus Christ. Will you never understand until it is too late for you ? Your GB are the ones that have turned their backs on God and Christ. But you just love having your ears tickled by your GB and the Org. 
It is sad. Your GB are stumbling blocks to so many people. Your GB continue to tell lies and to 'err', but JWs continue to serve them. Your GB continue to cover up the Child Sexual Abuse and continue to hide the pedophiles in the CCJW. Your GB will not appologise to victims of CSA and refuse to pay compensation to them. And you have the stupidity to say it is others that are 'traitors to Jehovah'. 

@Lifeswaterfree, I like your avatar, if that is the proper terminology.  
 
He came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. As usual, he entered the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up to read. 17 The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him, and unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written:
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent meto heal the broken-hearted
to proclaim release to the captives
and recovery of sight to the blind,
to set free the oppressed,
19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
“These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.”  Matt 10:5-8
“It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.”  Gal 5:1
Just this morning I was thinking how Satan could devise a spiritual “yoke of slavery” that appears not as captivity, but as one of freedom, to worship as a person chooses. (Ezek 13:10; 1 Thess 5:3; 2 Pet 2:17-19) The two words, captivity and freedom contradict each other; but, Satan uses both when they serve to advance his own "kingdom interests".  (Luke 4:5-7; Dan 9;26,27;Dan 11:32; Matt 24:24; Rev 12:15; 13:5,11,12)  He would use his resources at hand – putting his “head” ministers at the helm to fight for this apparent right, via the world’s court systems. (2 Cor 11:13,-15; Rev 13:1,11;17:7,9)
Yet, when we look at the example of Jesus, this course of action in no way is in imitation of his path, or that of his followers. (John 18:36)  But, Satan’s ministers have been successful in seducing the anointed with the unsuspecting bait of lies.  (Amos 3:4,5; Mark 13:22; Rev 2:20-23)  We all know this takes money, that those within his trap, would provide.  The organization would need more individuals to come on board, supporting the “fight” to keep up the appearance of spiritual freedom.  So, a preaching work was developed, with tantalizing offers of truth. This would be spearheaded by a succession of leadership; who progressively pollute the pure waters of Christ’s truth, until barely a morsel of pure truth is left. (Ezek 34:17-19; Rev 8:10-11; 16:13-16)  These poisoned waters would no longer be “free” to receive, or pure as holding the promise of eternal life; but would come with requirements formulated by the doctrine of men. (Jer 2:13; John 4:10; 1 John 3:3; Rev 22:1)  These are debased rules of an organization that even many of their “neighbors” would not practice. (Ezek 22:4,5,23-29) Yet, this religion can brag triumphantly of its wicked accomplishments - causing spiritual bloodshed through disfellowshipping, hiding child abuse, dividing families, and trampling the “saints” with blasphemy. (Mar 13:5-8,14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3)
“How you hate honest judges!
    How you despise people who tell the truth!
11 You trample the poor,
    stealing their grain through taxes and unfair rent.
Therefore, though you build beautiful stone houses,
    you will never live in them.
Though you plant lush vineyards,
    you will never drink wine from them.
12 For I know the vast number of your sins
    and the depth of your rebellions.
You oppress good people by taking bribes
    and deprive the poor of justice in the courts.”  Amos 5:10-12
The message that the kingdom of God has come near, is again being pronounced to the lost sheep of  “Israel” today, God’s people under covenant.  (Jer 51:6; Matt 10:23; Rev 18:4-8)  They have accepted the yoke of slavery through dedication to an organization; but this time, joining them are “Gentiles” who also carry that yoke, the “dedication” to an earthly entity – bearing the dedication mark of an idol. (Rev 13:2,8,16-18) 
I am amazed at the efficiency of Satan’s diabolical trap, to woo God’s people with the promised “freedom” of truth, while at the same time, able to slide a yoke of blindness upon their shoulders that they didn’t “see” coming.  I am astounded that a JW can believe he or she lives the “best life ever”, while rejecting the only source of freedom we have, which is in Jesus Christ.  (Matt 11:28; John 10:4,5,9,10)
You and I both know that receiving life’s water free, as your avatar states, is not possible in the organization. Only those of us who have rejected the yoke of slavery devised by the wicked intentions of Satan, understand what taking in Christ’s living water freely, truly means.  Just the thought that voluntary donations are needed to support “Jehovah’s (already rich) organization”, should be a warning flag easy to see.  But, to those who are enamored by what the riches of this world can accomplish in religion, they cannot perceive the truth behind Jesus’ teaching -  that one cannot serve both God and money.  (Mat 6:24)  They don’t hear the trumpet call to leave Wt. sins behind. (Amos 3:6,9,10)  They will continue to serve the needs of men, while the “banner” of truth raised by God, will draw the righteous hearted, of whom many are already “leaving” the apostate city.  (Ps 60:4; Isa 11:10-12;  Joel 3:18-21; Matt 22:8-10; Rev 18:4-8)
“Do what is good and run from evil
    so that you may live!
Then the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies will be your helper,
    just as you have claimed.
15 Hate evil and love what is good;
    turn your courts into true halls of justice.
Perhaps even yet the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies
    will have mercy on the remnant of his people.”  Amos 5:14,15
 
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