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Many years ago I worked for the Post Office in a big sorting office, doing late and night shifts. The money just rolled in. However it ruined my marriage at that time, ( which unfortunately was too late to save ). When i told everyone there that I was leaving to find a better job, they all laughed at me and said there are no better jobs. They seemed to almost worship the Post office and the money they were earning and could not see outside of that 'box'. 
It seems that you also are inside a 'box'. The W/t and the CCJW are not essential for serving God. What / who is essential is Jesus Christ. However, if God so chooses, He may still use a selection of people from those organisations. At this time (Covid-19) many people are 'working from home'. And since the invention of the internet, communication earthwide is so much easier. It is not necessary to have the Anointed all in one place. With God's guidance and Holy Spirit all things are possible. Have more faith. 
I agree, many will be stumbled. But many have already been stumbled by the GB and the CCJW. The GB have made up rules and have exalted themselves to a position whereby many JWs say 'the GB cannot be disfellowshipped. 
Many congregants have been stumbled by the GB's rules, and hidden directions, concerning Child Sexual Abuse. Many more have been stumbled by the GB's false prophecies and constantly looking for signs. Many have been stumbled by the harsh rules and dishonest Elders in congregations.  Many have indeed lost faith, but only if they had put their faith in MEN. Many people have left the CCJW because they know in their hearts that the GB and the CCJW / W/t are not serving God properly. 
Yahweh, Almighty God, notices these ones that have left the CCJW or want to leave for the right reasons, and HE keeps them in mind. HE will only act when HE is ready of course. Then HE will guide honest hearted peoples to here :-
Zechariah 8 v 23
“This is what Yahweh of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’”
Remember Cornelius in Acts 10 v 30 and 31 :-
Then Cornelius said: “Four days ago counting from this hour, I was praying in my house at the ninth hour; just then a man in bright clothing stood in front of me 31  and said: ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been favorably heard, and your gifts of mercy have been remembered before God.
You asked me "So how will you be able to pick an anointed that will help you spiritually?
@Kosonen  I won't pick an Anointed, Almighty God through Jesus Christ, will guide me to them. 
 

Quote @JW Insider "No one should be able to say, oh look at this war, "See here!" it is the greatest war ever seen, or "Look at this great earthquake, or famine, or pestilence, "
But isn't that what the GB and CCJW do ?   Don't they misuse the sufferings of others to hype up their own agenda ? 
Didn't a GB member say he was not bothered by this virus and that  'we were expecting it to happen' as part of a sign of the end times ? 

The CCJW does not have truth. Nor can they have because they are not inspired of God's Holy spirit. 
Truth is from Almighty God through Jesus Christ, not through 8 men claiming to be the F&DS but who have failed in every way to provide true guidance. 
The foundation of truth from God's word has been known for a long long time. So what have the GB of CCJW offered ? False prophecy, lies, heavy burdens and traditions of men. They are indeed a stumbling block of great magnitude and they will suffer for it. Luke 17 v 1&2. 

Have you notised that JWs usually express it saying "be in the truth", but apostle Paul usually said instead to "be in Christ". Why this difference?
Here an example:
Romans 16:3 Give my greetings to Prisʹca and Aqʹui·la, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus,...7 Greet An·dronʹi·cus and Juʹni·as, my relatives and fellow prisoners, who are men well-known to the apostles and who have been in union with Christ longer than I have…..9 Greet Ur·baʹnus, our fellow worker in Christ, and my beloved Staʹchys. 10  Greet A·pelʹles, the approved one in Christ. Greet those from the household of A·ris·tobʹu·lus. …..16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the congregations of the Christ greet you.

Meanwhile, 1.2 million people a year are being killed by mosquitoes, and a hundred million infected with various levels of disease, many permanently crippled .... and there is no panic anywhere!
gimmee a break!

The basic core truths.  The first "good news" that my brother shared with me, who was studying with JWs, was the promise of a "new world", that of living on earth in peace.  No wars, no death, etc.  I believed it, because it was proven from the Bible.  But then, I was told this peaceful setting would only last 1000 literal years before death would again be at my door.  I thought, well, it must be true because they showed me Rev 20:7-10   What I'm saying is,  the basic core truth is offered at the door, with a twist that isn't true. 
This is truth:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea no longer existed. 2 I also saw the Holy City, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.
3 Then I heard a loud voice from the throne:
Look! God’s dwelling is with humanity,
and He will live with them.
They will be His people,
and God Himself will be with them
and be their God.
4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes.
Death will no longer exist;
grief, crying, and pain will exist no longer,
because the previous things have passed away.  Rev 21:1-4
 
JWs do not bring with them, good news, but twisted news.  
 

Couldn't the same be said of Mormons/Catholics/Lutherans etc.?

self admitted by their own mouths, they are not. 

hahaha WHAT? 
Do you really think this way? 
Don't you know you ARE suppose to question the teachings of men? 
These guys have already stated their position on being inspired by God, they're NOT. So it is important to question their teachings, unless of course you are a lemming. . 

self admitted by their own mouths, they are not. 

hahaha WHAT? 
Do you really think this way? 
Don't you know you ARE suppose to question the teachings of men? 
These guys have already stated their position on being inspired by God, they're NOT. So it is important to question their teachings, unless of course you are a lemming. . 

Matthew 23:10  Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.
How much worse is it then to call themself Governing body?
I think apostle Paul has something to say to those calling themself Governing body:
1 Corinthians 4:7  For who makes you different from another? Indeed, what do you have that you did not receive? If, in fact, you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not receive it? 8  Are you already satisfied? Are you already rich? Have you begun ruling as kings without us? I really wish that you had begun ruling as kings, so that we also might rule with you as kings. 9  For it seems to me that God has put us the apostles last on exhibition as men condemned to death, because we have become a theatrical spectacle to the world, and to angels and to men. 10  We are fools because of Christ, but you are discreet in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are held in honor, but we in dishonor.

You need to learn the difference between serving God through Christ, OR serving the CCJW through the GB. 
I don't think people question scripture, but they do question how your GB misuse scripture. 
 

Who can forgive sins but God alone?

Since this case has surfaced, I now understand the "fair use act" and what you say about the act is true.  But, the WT may assertively follow secular laws of men as well as aggressively reject them; depending on whether they are useful to protect their image, or if they threaten to expose their image as "unclean".  They seek to establish their own "righteousness"; which is ultimately, hypocrisy.  Rom 10:3
 

The same "due process" is afforded to all that enter into a legal challenge. Therefore, what's good for opposers is also good for the Watchtower. 
BUT JESUS SAID 
Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you..
What part of that do you not understand ? 

Everything we say, write, or do, should be completely transparent ... and further WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF EVERYTHING WE SAY, WRITE OR DO !
If not ... reparations and profound real heart felt apologies .... and public changes are in order.
I don't know about you .... but I have never heard the Society apologize about ANYTHING !!!
 EVER!!
 
 

But as the GB and JW Org are not inspired of God how will they ever know ?  

If a person needs to be told by an Organisation that they have 'Free Will' to do something then in truth they DO NOT have Free Will at all, but are just doing as they are told by MEN. 
 Questions From Readers
How do Jehovah’s Witnesses view voting?
If a person even has to ask that question they show that they have no free will.
It is becoming more clear to me each day what a domineering Org, JW Org is. 
Surely if a question is asked it should have been 
How does God view voting ? 

You are so polished at blame-shifting, not even addressing the topic.  It's okay that you are lied to, by men who are getting rich through their tried and true scheming methods that fleece the flock. I've known many a JW who became involved in "get rich quick" schemes, struggling to make ends meet and promised lucrative returns; but instead,  being taken by their own spiritual brothers.  I suppose they will pay also, just as you say Winston will?
But, lets sweep all of WT's lies under the carpet with their pedophile issues, their failed doctrines taught for years; and  new doctrine that JWs swallow down with no problem, because they are so use to being lied to.  Let's focus on Winston instead.   
  
 
 

Oh dear. I know you think I'm nuts, suffering from WDS, (should you trademark this?), but I think you've been ingesting too much of WT's twisted teachings. 🙂 Oh, that could also be a sign of WDS!  That's right, I remember you said the sword cuts both ways.  I do care for you, and I wonder just why you remain "in" there.  The Kingdom will not arrive on the wings of the WT, but maybe it doesn't matter to you one way or the other.  
 
 

It’s so hard for me to just give short sentences as answers.  The entire Bible prophesy is coming to a head. I realize now how little I knew of the anointed role while in the WT.  They are spoon fed lies about themselves, and only enough to not question what they should be doing.   
We see what happens in organizations, how they are influenced by the world of Satan, and men with their additional rules and regulations.   If we were meant to have an earthly visible organization, then Jesus would have begun establishing it when he was on earth.  ( Ps 127:1a) As the WT has done, each material building is taught as “God’s house”, which I believe is idolatry.   When I read the account Stephen gave before he was stoned to death (Acts 7:44-53), it’s clear to me that Stephen was trying to get across the acceptance of Christ as the new Temple built with living stones, and God’s dwelling/house.  (John 2:19-22; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)   In his speech, he mentioned the tabernacle in the wilderness where God’s Spirit dwelled, and the temple Solomon built. He then quoted Isa 66:1,2 saying to the Jews how “stiff-necked” they were, for rejecting the chief cornerstone of the new temple/foundation in Christ and the apostles.  This was the temple, house of God, that He meant would be built, when speaking to David so many years before.  (2 Sam 7:1-16)
  When Jesus said we will worship in the spirit and the truth, I believe he didn’t mean through any earthly organization/temple/solid entity. (John 4:21) True believers of Christ realized this.  True anointed “living stones” who carried truth in their heart by the Spirit, that Christ sent over the last 2,000 years, would have taught the same.  (John 13:20; 14:15-17)  The WT organization was formed when there was a remarkable surge of what some consider to be a spiritual enlightenment – a “second great awakening”.  Mormonism, Baptists, Methodism, Seventh Day Adventist, Bible Students/Watchtower, all had their beginning around the same time.  Do any of the them have complete truth?  And why was it at generally the same time period, that there was there such an influx of religions beliefs?  Who was behind the establishment of so many paths diverging from the “sincerity and the purity of devotion to Christ”? (Lexham 2 Cor 11:3)  I believe it is Satan’s doing. (2 Pet 2:1-3)
The only “organization” that God approves is the “administration” within the anointed Body. (1 Cor chapt 12; Eph 1:3-11)  You seem to be keenly aware of this Body and the circumstances they face in the organization.  In the last days, the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed”/anointed are deceived by Satan’s ruse . (Rev 12:17; 2 Thess 2:1-4,8-12;Rev 13:4; Amos 3:5)  “Deceived” is a primary word that the organization fails to tell the anointed ones, or that they even notice. As most JWs believe, how can anyone be deceived if they are safe in the WT? (1 Thess 5:1-5)  However, we see the lies in the organization where the remaining anointed reside. Lies are deception that lead one down the wrong road. Who can deny that?  Only faithful JWs do. (2 Cor 4:1-6)    We also see that there is basic truth that led them in. It would be teachings of truth, that an anointed would recognize through the Holy Spirit poured into their heart. (Rom 5:5; 1 John 2:27)   Once in, it is very difficult to get out without losing everything.  All of this was prophesied to occur in the last days.  (Matt 24:24; Col 2:8; Rev 2:20; 13:10) It is a spiritual captivity that “tramples” down the anointed. (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; Rev 11:1-3)   When rejecting lies, turning to Christ, we are persecuted by our own spiritual “brothers and sisters” and family for doing so.  (Luke 12:53; Matt 5:10,11)
Daniel called the fourth beast that God’s people under covenant must face, as “different”. (Dan 7:19) I said that one of the Beasts of Rev 13 is a false prophet, the GB, (Rev 13:11), and the “Wild Beast” is the organization. (Rev 13:1) (Watchtower calls it "Satan's organization")  I also used Rev 12:17 above, which states that the “dragon” “makes war” with the remaining ones.  Notice what all of them accomplish together:
 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
The “kings of the earth” are Jesus’ kings/priests.  Rev 1:5; 5:9,10   They are gathered in the WT….for the great day of God Almighty = Armageddon! (Luke 22:31; Rev 2:10)  Armageddon is based on DECEIT that comes out of the mouths of the “dragon” and the two Beasts - the GB, and the organization it directs. (Luke 21:8; Rev 13:12) The battle is being fought now, the exposure of truth against the teachings of lies; and it involves the anointed “kings of the earth”, and those with them.  
That is the summation of Armageddon, fought in the “valley of decision” (Joel 3:14); kings of the earth who transgressed their covenant in Christ, battle against faithful kings of the earth who return to Christ in repentance for their idolatry and believing lies. (Eph 5:11-14) The battle ensues by what comes out of each anointed one’s mouth – truth or lies.    All whose lives have been touched by the WT, make the decision -  the choice to go with, which results in each one’s judgment before Christ.  (Matt 7:21-23)  More than ever before, we see an exodus from the organization for various reasons, selfish ones, or the pursuit of truth.  Jesus does not disappoint those who are sincere about finding truth.  (Matt 22:1-14)  
The WT utilizes “signs and wonders” that are hard for the average JW to perceive as deception.  (2 Thess 2:9)  Yet, it is the deception – the ruse - against the anointed in the last days. (Rev 13:13,14, 5,7)   The Watchtower has twisted the timing of events to mislead the anointed and those with them.  The symbolic “thousand year” reign of Christ has ended. 
Rev 20:7-10 speaks again of the “gathering” of the saints for the “battle”, the same battle we see in Rev 16:13,14.  Gog/Magog ARE the Beasts. 
So, Satan has been let loose from the abyss to deceive the last of the anointed before the Kingdom arrives.  This deception or power is “different” – the gradual development of an organization that causes destruction.  It becomes more apparent with each passing day.  Even the world can see its destructive force; but its reason behind its purpose is only understood by those who discern the “trampling” down of the anointed – the “Gentile” elder body as the “disgusting thing standing in the temple of God.  (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3)
Judgment day began when Jesus came to earth. (Luke 12:51; John 3:18) Each person is judged during their lifetime, according to their choices, not during a thousand years after Armageddon.    Armageddon is the culmination of judgment against the remaining ones and those with them.  God judges the world, Jesus Christ and his foundation “stones” judge the anointed and those in the organization – his kings of the earth, and the nations with them.  (1 Cor 5:13; 1 Pet 4:17; Eph 2:19,20) Jesus’ words about the Great Tribulation experienced because of the two beasts, correlates with Daniel’s use of “different” – “For at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will happen.  And unless those days had been shortened, no human being would be saved.  But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened.”  (Matt 24:21,22)  You are feeling this “different” tribulation or sifting, and you are caught in the middle of this battle of truth against lies.  The Great Tribulation is a result of Armageddon. 
So, Satan doesn’t want to lose his kingdom.  His “different” plan during these last days is to deceive the anointed into idolatry to an organization, and the dual, powerful “trampling” rule of men over them.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 9:1-6; 8:10,11; 9)
 
I believe Satan is the Destroyer.  What he does now or who he destroys before “death” is destroyed waits to be seen.  Yes, the earth will be cleansed of evil.  When he is gone, so is wickedness. (Isa 33:1; 1 Cor 15:24-26; Rev 21:1-4)
 
I believe in a family of the children of God - the seed of Abraham.   There are the “firstfruits” “born” to spirit life now, with a job to do. (Rom 8:16,17; James 1:18) For the faithful refined anointed ones, they will be Christ’s Bride, fulfilling the “New Covenant” as a new creation – both spirit and human. (Matt 25:1-13; 2 Cor 5:17; Gal 4:26)  Children will be “born” from this union, this fulfilled promise of life. (John 13:20; Rev 22:17;  Those children make up the rest of the children of God, “born” in spirit. (John 6:63)  At that time, the “144,000” priesthood will serve God, Jesus and the future children on the earth. (Rom 8:14; Rev 22:2)  The early priesthood assigned by God was to teach the people of Israel God’s laws.  (Mal 2:7) The heavenly priesthood will do the same, and whatever else they are assigned to do as they serve Christ on the earth, and in heaven. Who knows what God will ask of His future children in the Kingdom.  But for now, he is refining his priests to serve in the spiritual Temple built with the faithful “144,000” (1 Pet 2:5,9)    It will be accomplished by the time the organization goes down. (Zech 4:7; Rev 18:21; 8:8; Dan 2:34; 7:26,27)
Jesus was the first of Abraham’s promised seed to inherit the earth:
 Now Jacob went out from Beersheba and went toward Haran. 11 So he came to a certain place and stayed there all night, because the sun had set. And he took one of the stones of that place and put it at his head, and he lay down in that place to sleep. 12 Then he dreamed, and behold, a ladder was set up on the earth, and its top reached to heaven; and there the angels of God were ascending and descending on it.
13 And behold, the Lord stood above it and said: “I am the Lord God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants.
4 Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth; you shall spread abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the south; and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. 15 Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have spoken to you.”
16 Then Jacob awoke from his sleep and said, “Surely the Lord is in this place, and I did not know it.” 17 And he was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven!”  Gen 28:10-17
John 1:51 - He then added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on’ the Son of Man.”
Angels are messengers, (see the Greek meaning for “angel”), priests are messengers. Mal 2:7  Jesus shares his inheritance of the earth with the “144,000”/anointed/angel messengers.  They won’t be stuck in heaven as the WT portrays it,  but will be both on earth and in heaven.  As “children of a promise” they will inherit the earth.  Rom 9:8; Gal 4:28
The  vision in Genesis was to Jacob – generally, to Israel.  During the last days, an “Elijah” comes to restore “Jacob” OUTSIDE of the organization.  It is happening now. (Nah 2:2; Isa 49:6; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5; Mark 9:12; Rev 11:3)
We are at another point where a “voice” is calling, “Prepare the way of the Lord in the wilderness; make a straight highway for our God in the desert.”  Isa 40:3
Isa 44:24-28; Isa 2:1-5
I work with other anointed and those not anointed, spreading truth to "Israel", those "nations" residing with them, as well as those "leaving the (apostate) city".  Matt 22:8-10
"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes."  Matt 10:23
Rev 18:4-8
Thus says the Lord,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker:
“Ask Me of things to come concerning My sons;
And concerning the work of My hands, you command Me.
 I have made the earth,
And created man on it.
I—My hands—stretched out the heavens,
And all their host I have commanded.
I have raised him up in righteousness,
And I will direct all his ways;("make all his ways straight")
He shall build My city
And let My exiles go free,
Not for price nor reward,”
Says the Lord of hosts.  Isa 45:11-13
"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.  Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God."  Rev 21:1-3
That is, the only true "organization" that God approves. 
 
 
 
 
 

ok, I'm not @Witness, but I'll answer you from my perspective. 
NO, not an organization like we know it today. Not a man made organization, but rather a group of like minded people who fear God and follow what He instructs, not just based on the parts of the Bible they want, but all of it.
One doesn't need to be formed, its already in place. It isn't labeled by anyone but Him. He knows who is chosen and who still need to come in.
yup
not like the wt teaches. Those who have died before us are with Him. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The earthly part is the part where in Revelation (ch 21) it talks about the throne of God coming down out of heaven and His dwelling will be with men here on Earth. Remember the part about the new Jerusalem coming down? 
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. ...
 
yup, see above
by fellowship and observation. 
no, God will................... through them. You will know if God is behind it, because it will not waver nor will you have doubts about their actions or interpretations. 
 
Yes. 
Yes, we will be judged as individuals and it is only by the faith in Jesus and acceptance of His sacrifice for each and every one of us, will we be allowed into the Kingdom. 
United, yes but not in a man defined structure of an organization. We will serve God as individuals within the group. 
 
I can see what you are saying, but that isn't what the Bible tells us as to why. Doesn't the Bible tell us that the Gospel needs to be spread and then....
Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
 
There isn't a religion nor a "true" religion, it's a way of life.......God's way of life. 
 
 
 
These are all just my point of view based on what I know. If its wrong, well thank goodness that I try and keep my faith in Jesus and what He has done for me. He is the only way to the New Jerusalem. 
 
 

ok, I'm not @Witness, but I'll answer you from my perspective. 
NO, not an organization like we know it today. Not a man made organization, but rather a group of like minded people who fear God and follow what He instructs, not just based on the parts of the Bible they want, but all of it.
One doesn't need to be formed, its already in place. It isn't labeled by anyone but Him. He knows who is chosen and who still need to come in.
yup
not like the wt teaches. Those who have died before us are with Him. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The earthly part is the part where in Revelation (ch 21) it talks about the throne of God coming down out of heaven and His dwelling will be with men here on Earth. Remember the part about the new Jerusalem coming down? 
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. ...
 
yup, see above
by fellowship and observation. 
no, God will................... through them. You will know if God is behind it, because it will not waver nor will you have doubts about their actions or interpretations. 
 
Yes. 
Yes, we will be judged as individuals and it is only by the faith in Jesus and acceptance of His sacrifice for each and every one of us, will we be allowed into the Kingdom. 
United, yes but not in a man defined structure of an organization. We will serve God as individuals within the group. 
 
I can see what you are saying, but that isn't what the Bible tells us as to why. Doesn't the Bible tell us that the Gospel needs to be spread and then....
Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
 
There isn't a religion nor a "true" religion, it's a way of life.......God's way of life. 
 
 
 
These are all just my point of view based on what I know. If its wrong, well thank goodness that I try and keep my faith in Jesus and what He has done for me. He is the only way to the New Jerusalem. 
 
 

agreed that is how it should work, right? So why then is it not this way? 
 
Classic definition of insanity.......just saying. 
 
 
These statements of yours have a taste of disdain, but yet in the same breath almost an acceptance as that's just how it is. 
If that is just how it is, who is going to " ... is vote with their wallets ........ and their feet." ?