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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    I’m not familiar with this one. Should I throw it on the reading stack?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Miracle Pete in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    It is always possible—I’d rate it at least a 50/50 chance—that George is himself disfellowshipped—he knows Witness history very well—and is taking his revenge with a made-up, nasty almost beyond belief, persona that he would have everyone believe is that of a typical, faithful Witness.
    I mean, I know hundreds of JWs, and I have never met one anything like him. It is inconceivable that such a personality could be in huge social demand, unless he is living one fantastic double life, and even then it would be hard to keep it hidden.
    It’s inconceivable that someone who presents himself as so loyal can so utterly disregard repeated counsel not to argue with ‘apostates.’ Somewhere there is a sham. Something does not compute. That he himself is a disfellowshipped person taking revenge is a possible explanation.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    It is always possible—I’d rate it at least a 50/50 chance—that George is himself disfellowshipped—he knows Witness history very well—and is taking his revenge with a made-up, nasty almost beyond belief, persona that he would have everyone believe is that of a typical, faithful Witness.
    I mean, I know hundreds of JWs, and I have never met one anything like him. It is inconceivable that such a personality could be in huge social demand, unless he is living one fantastic double life, and even then it would be hard to keep it hidden.
    It’s inconceivable that someone who presents himself as so loyal can so utterly disregard repeated counsel not to argue with ‘apostates.’ Somewhere there is a sham. Something does not compute. That he himself is a disfellowshipped person taking revenge is a possible explanation.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    I’ve noticed that, too.
    Nonetheless, we have his application on file and at the next meeting of the closed club top brass we expect to admit him, at least on a trial basis.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from George88 in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    I’ve noticed that, too.
    Nonetheless, we have his application on file and at the next meeting of the closed club top brass we expect to admit him, at least on a trial basis.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    I’ve noticed that, too.
    Nonetheless, we have his application on file and at the next meeting of the closed club top brass we expect to admit him, at least on a trial basis.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in How to Understand Why Former Members of Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Recognize the Evidence.   
    It’s because he is in a snit that we let Pudg in the closed club whereas he wouldn’t be able to get in for all the tea in China.
    It is truly sad and indeed troubling, reflecting poor scholarship and intellectual deterioration, typical of those who frequent the closed club, that you did not possess this knowledge as your own possession and were thus reduced to enquiring as regards to this knowledge that you so sadly lack in the midst of the spiritual delinquency of the open club. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    I don’t excuse it. I am outraged by it. But . . . people are complicated. “You can’t always get what you want.”
    You don’t keep up with new light, do you? These days we can say hello to him. So, we here in the closed club acted almost like prophets, anticipating the change, saying hello in advance. We accepted his ‘repentance’ as genuine, which it is (especially if you are not too fussy). We accepted that unless we extended a hand of invitation, he would be stranded here in the open club, where men weep and gnash their teeth and froth at the mouth, unless he got offline altogether, and you know that is as unlikely as the Pope converting to Presbyterianism.
    We accepted his DFing as more or less a technicality, completely brought on at his own insistence, and had he not acted in such a ‘throw oneself on the pyre’ manner,, as most anyone else would not have, it wouldn’t have happened. We took his circumstances at face value: 
    I mean, for crying out loud, what kind of a character does this—insists on being DFed three times, is refused three times, and then when he seeks a 4th, he is DFed, whereupon he blames it on his refusal to meet with them? Sheesh. Plainly, they gave up on telling him they weren’t going to and granted him his wish.
    Oh, well. Blessed be the honor-bound, even if unnecessarily honor bound. It works for us, we said. We invited him on board. @JW Insider wanted to throw him off the forum, of course, but every time you turn around he wants to throw someone off the forum—even Admin and the Librarian are not safe—and no one pays any attention to him these days.
    My Lord, you know how to chew up a guy’s time!
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    Eureka! A breakthrough! One small step for Pudg. One gaint leap for Pudgkind. Mr Watson, come here. I need you. 
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Pudgy in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    i refused to attend a fourth meeting with the Elders, yet I have wasted years playing whack-a-mole here. 
    Yikes!
     
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    I don’t excuse it. I am outraged by it. But . . . people are complicated. “You can’t always get what you want.”
    You don’t keep up with new light, do you? These days we can say hello to him. So, we here in the closed club acted almost like prophets, anticipating the change, saying hello in advance. We accepted his ‘repentance’ as genuine, which it is (especially if you are not too fussy). We accepted that unless we extended a hand of invitation, he would be stranded here in the open club, where men weep and gnash their teeth and froth at the mouth, unless he got offline altogether, and you know that is as unlikely as the Pope converting to Presbyterianism.
    We accepted his DFing as more or less a technicality, completely brought on at his own insistence, and had he not acted in such a ‘throw oneself on the pyre’ manner,, as most anyone else would not have, it wouldn’t have happened. We took his circumstances at face value: 
    I mean, for crying out loud, what kind of a character does this—insists on being DFed three times, is refused three times, and then when he seeks a 4th, he is DFed, whereupon he blames it on his refusal to meet with them? Sheesh. Plainly, they gave up on telling him they weren’t going to and granted him his wish.
    Oh, well. Blessed be the honor-bound, even if unnecessarily honor bound. It works for us, we said. We invited him on board. @JW Insider wanted to throw him off the forum, of course, but every time you turn around he wants to throw someone off the forum—even Admin and the Librarian are not safe—and no one pays any attention to him these days.
    My Lord, you know how to chew up a guy’s time!
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Miracle Pete in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    We are not ‘aware’ of anything online, where truthful speech is punished, where liars proliferate, and where, unless you know someone personally, you haven’t a clue. You can get a feel for someone over time, but nothing more. Frankly, the biggest mystery here (by far) is you, who dials up the judgment 10-fold and dials back the fellow-feeling by as much.
    ‘All men online are liars’ says the apostle Paul, adjusted for the present digital age.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    No. I removed it because the local elders were uncomfortable with it, judging from its cover an invitation to brawl with apostates—whereas the Witness organization encourages just the opposite—you know, along the lines of ‘a slave of the Lord does not need to fight.’

    It was only the local brothers, so far as I know, not anyone else. It was not even brought up specifically; removing it was just my response to a shepherding call.  I could have stuck to my guns without consequence other than to continue to be viewed by them as not exemplary. But I have voluntarily signed on to a program that involves submission to Christian headship, and to consider the interests of others, not just my own. Removing the book put to rest any notion that I favor seeking out apostates and fighting with them, which I do not.
    So I took it down. I explained it a little more in the next book, ‘In the Last of the Last Days: Faith in the Age of Dysfunction.’ Parts of it that I really like I have incorporated elsewhere.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Will the unrepentant inherit the earth   
    We are not ‘aware’ of anything online, where truthful speech is punished, where liars proliferate, and where, unless you know someone personally, you haven’t a clue. You can get a feel for someone over time, but nothing more. Frankly, the biggest mystery here (by far) is you, who dials up the judgment 10-fold and dials back the fellow-feeling by as much.
    ‘All men online are liars’ says the apostle Paul, adjusted for the present digital age.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in A Fish Story   
    Some pix I snapped earlier today although most of the small babies are hiding until feeding time. There are none in the first picture, but if you look closely at the second picture, you might be able to pick out about six of them.


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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    JWI was on the verge of doing so but couldn’t find your card in the card catalogue—none of which would have happened had he heeded my urging to modernize.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    …says the guy who will take anyone’s head off if he detects an interest in politics, thus revealing it is not so much an interest in politics he abhors but an interest in politics that is not his.
    Okay, got it. Transgender Visibility  Day already existed, even though no one had ever heard of it. But it is sort of like the country in mourning over September 11th, (9/11) or December 7th (Pearl Harbor) and some twerp says, ‘Don’t forget, it’s also National Tic Tac Toe Day! We made it that just a few years ago.”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    JWI was on the verge of doing so but couldn’t find your card in the card catalogue—none of which would have happened had he heeded my urging to modernize.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Pudgy in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    In “The DaVinci Code” novel, the Pope had an albino assassin, sort of a 00VII, as a part of Opus Dio, the Jesuits, which was quite believable ….. if you know Catholic History. 
    Little is known about the secret NY Triad Cabal known as “The Librarians”…..
    ……BROUHAHAHAHAA

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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from George88 in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    JWI was on the verge of doing so but couldn’t find your card in the card catalogue—none of which would have happened had he heeded my urging to modernize.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    “Bad dog, bad! No biscuit!”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from George88 in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    “Bad dog, bad! No biscuit!”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2024   
    …says the guy who will take anyone’s head off if he detects an interest in politics, thus revealing it is not so much an interest in politics he abhors but an interest in politics that is not his.
    Okay, got it. Transgender Visibility  Day already existed, even though no one had ever heard of it. But it is sort of like the country in mourning over September 11th, (9/11) or December 7th (Pearl Harbor) and some twerp says, ‘Don’t forget, it’s also National Tic Tac Toe Day! We made it that just a few years ago.”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in The Bible and Politics (and Israel and Russia and . . . )   
    They fired him:
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Matthew9969 in The Bible and Politics (and Israel and Russia and . . . )   
    Just once I’d like to see a Pharma ad in which the actors, rather than acting out the touted benefits of the drug, instead act out the side effects of the voiceover—gasping, clutching their throats, turning blue, hair falling out, doubling over, dropping dead, straining on the toilet to ‘go’, swiveling about in dizziness.
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