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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Melinda Mills in Thor is Jesus, Avengers are Angels and Loki is Satan?   
    Librarian!
    You have something on your mind while post this in connection to JW Open Club.
    Would you be so kind to tell us ... what? 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    @BillyTheKid46 Quote " I criticize those that think they have the right to criticize the Watchtower. "
    What is the Watchtower to you ? What exactly does that word Watchtower mean ?
    Who runs that Watchtower, who is in charge ?   
    The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is a non-stock, not-for-profit organization[4] headquartered in Warwick, New York. It is the main legal entity used worldwide by Jehovah's Witnesses to direct, administer and disseminate doctrines for the group and is often referred to by members of the denomination simply as "the Society". It is the parent organization of a number of Watch Tower subsidiaries, including the Watchtower Society of New York and International Bible Students Association.[5][6] The number of voting shareholders of the corporation is limited to between 300 and 500 "mature, active and faithful" male Jehovah's Witnesses.[7] About 5800 Jehovah's Witnesses provide voluntary unpaid labour, as members of a religious order, in three large Watch Tower Society facilities in New York;[8] nearly 15,000 other members of the order work at the Watch Tower Society's other facilities worldwide. 
    Governing Body
    In 1976, direction of the Watch Tower Society and of the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide came under the control of the Governing Body, reducing the power of the society's president. The society has described the change as "one of the most significant organizational readjustments in the modern-day history of Jehovah's Witnesses."[53]
    Following the death of Knorr in 1977, subsequent presidents of the Watch Tower Society have been Frederick W. Franz (June 1977 – December 1992); Milton G. Henschel (December 1992 – October 2000), Don A. Adams (October 2000 – 2014) and Robert Ciranko (incumbent).[50] Adams and Ciranko are considered "helpers" to the Governing Body, which retains authority over the corporations.[54]
    If this info is correct then the Watchtower is run by the Governing Body. So as bosses of the W/t they are responsible for lies, mistakes, failures, etc of the W/t, and the GB are responsible for lives, and deaths of many people. 
    Your idea of using Watchtower as a cover up,  does not work. The Watchtower is known as two things.
    1. An Organisation / Society.
    2. A magazine.
    Which ever you see it as it still has to be run by humans, and have leaders. Those leaders are the Governing Body.  Therefore that GB are responsible for any good or bad that it produces. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Jehovah speeding up the work or increase. But increase or decrease ?   
    I found this: 9 Faith Groups That Reject the Trinity - https://www.learnreligions.com/faith-groups-that-reject-trinity-doctrine-700367
    I believe how same is with immortal soul. JW's are not only one who have this teachings. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Jehovah speeding up the work or increase. But increase or decrease ?   
    By the way, Billy, are you and Foreigner the same person ? 
    I notice he or she never makes any comments, and downvotes everything everybody else says, EXCEPT YOU,   You get an upvote!
    ....sort of like getting a Telly Award and not having to pay $85 for it.
    This will be a good test of your basic integrity, as there are several people here ( not me ) who can determine from your Internet Cyber trail exactly where both logins are coming from, and even your operating system and Browser. They ALREADY have all that information.
    You going to weasel out of this honest, straightforward, and pertinent question ....
    ..... or reply  with an honest YES or NO answer?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Let me know where in this forum i wasn't criticized? You doing that almost in every comment.  :))
    And why you had need to changing @JW Insider name, for example? Because of one letter. Do you think how letters J and W is holy if it is together (JW), and how people who have J and W in name have to believe in particular dogmas? Why, please, why you downsize level of discussion in personal animosity toward this or that person? If you consider some of us not worth to hear because of "stupidity" or because "lack of spirituality" or because of "someones secret agenda" then please, change the strategy. This what  you doing, Not Working.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    For who?
    This all conversation is about GB statement; We are not inspired, Our study on Bible is not inspired, Our articles are not inspired. We can err.
    Than ... How they could/will be leaded, guided, learned by God and/or by his Spirit if even little piece, little measure of spirit through Inspiration was not/are not "shadow" them?   If they not receiving Inspiration from God...All their hard spiritual work is of human source, and result of human inspiration. 
    Or we can go to use this logic.
    If 20%, 10% or 5% of teachings in WTJWORG is indisputable truth, reason for that is because holy spirit revealed that truth to this human. Revelation comes through Inspiration, i guess.  Or, somebody can give other perspective?!
    If 80%, 90% or 95% of teachings in WTJWORG is harmful chatter, reason for that is .....:)))) we all know the answer, or at least can give a assumption. :))
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Jehovah speeding up the work or increase. But increase or decrease ?   
    You are showing God, you don't have confidence in him to make judgment calls on earth.
    Or am i just showing the GB / JW Org that i don't have confidence in them to make judgements on God's behalf. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Jehovah speeding up the work or increase. But increase or decrease ?   
    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    When His parents saw Him, they were astonished, and His mother said to Him, "Son, why have You treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for You." 
    So now, was Mary sinning to talk to Jesus like that ?  Or was Jesus wrong for not notifying his parents that he was staying behind ?  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    You made comparison of this kind: He didn’t need to (learn in schools), just like we don’t need to.
    Well, let put subject again: Because, according to your words, JW's in general and especially all elders with GB as Top Management not need formal education in religious matters, because as you made statement, this people is like Jesus already equipped with needed credentials, questions are: Does this way of getting knowledge, understanding and good fruits is because that all was been result of Inspiration by spirit OR is it result of 3 step model (empowered by spirit? assisted by angels? guided by God’s Word?) ?
    Because, WTJWORG explains that this two is not the same. And here you said how  Jesus and JW's archived all this spiritual quality and quantity in the same manner/same way.
    I found this view, if it is yours too, as wrong. Was Jesus "Empowered" or "Guided" or "Inspired" by holy spirit. In fact, because Jesus came to Earth from Above as Firstborn who already have ALL Power and Authority and All Spirit, in fact He can spread that Spirit as holy spirit onto, into, on others around Him.
    What is difference when WT magazine say: empowered by spirit and guided by Word? But  also using terminology "we are not Inspired by spirit but we are Guided by spirit?!  
    Who or What doing what  ??? influence on GB? Somehow, according to explanation they made, to Them, sometimes inspired and guided have different meaning, sometimes the same. And in this WT magazine they put new terminology - empowered.
    Very confusing, but perhaps they have such intention to confuse people.  :)))
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    For who?
    This all conversation is about GB statement; We are not inspired, Our study on Bible is not inspired, Our articles are not inspired. We can err.
    Than ... How they could/will be leaded, guided, learned by God and/or by his Spirit if even little piece, little measure of spirit through Inspiration was not/are not "shadow" them?   If they not receiving Inspiration from God...All their hard spiritual work is of human source, and result of human inspiration. 
    Or we can go to use this logic.
    If 20%, 10% or 5% of teachings in WTJWORG is indisputable truth, reason for that is because holy spirit revealed that truth to this human. Revelation comes through Inspiration, i guess.  Or, somebody can give other perspective?!
    If 80%, 90% or 95% of teachings in WTJWORG is harmful chatter, reason for that is .....:)))) we all know the answer, or at least can give a assumption. :))
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Ok, but in His case, it seems how He wasn't need to follow advice "He gave" 2000  years later to His FDS aka GB in WT magazine, the 3 step model: empowered by spirit - assisted by angels - guided by God’s Word?. You using gospel reports to show how He Received holy spirit. When someone Received is that same as to be Inspired?? Received=inspired??!! I don't mind and can join you in this idea. But, problem stays with GB and WTJWORG. Did they Receiving holy spirit in the same way as Jesus did? Again, you state how JW's and GB not need formal education because THEY also like Jesus are Received, are Guided, are Learned, are Empowered, are Lead by Spirit of God.
    If it is so and If we want to believe that it is so...., how then this same spirit who acts in the same way with the same effect on people of blood and flesh (Jesus and FDS) bringing so different results?? Why you or somebody else want to eliminate negative results "of god's spirit" that is visible after GB left the conference room at Wednesday, and releasing error teachings for Jesus sheep worldwide?? 
    And please, don't say; Jesus was perfect, GB is not. Because if you think so, you would claim, in fact, how holy spirit is not strong enough to help imperfect people. :))
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Let me know where in this forum i wasn't criticized? You doing that almost in every comment.  :))
    And why you had need to changing @JW Insider name, for example? Because of one letter. Do you think how letters J and W is holy if it is together (JW), and how people who have J and W in name have to believe in particular dogmas? Why, please, why you downsize level of discussion in personal animosity toward this or that person? If you consider some of us not worth to hear because of "stupidity" or because "lack of spirituality" or because of "someones secret agenda" then please, change the strategy. This what  you doing, Not Working.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    ... there is NO weasel words that will get around THAT self-evident statement.


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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    ....and anytime there is NEW LIGHT, it shows the GB DID NOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE.
    .....  except in Billy-Think ... where you can have it BOTH ways at the same time.
    ... and a MILLION weasel words will not change that.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    According to Billy-Think, you can change the definitions of words to mean whatever the Society's Writing Department WISHES them to mean.
    Or in the words of Bugs Bunny ... "ERRRRRR .... What's up Doc?"
    Or, in the photocopied words of that desperado, bandito wanna-be of the Old West ....

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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    For who?
    This all conversation is about GB statement; We are not inspired, Our study on Bible is not inspired, Our articles are not inspired. We can err.
    Than ... How they could/will be leaded, guided, learned by God and/or by his Spirit if even little piece, little measure of spirit through Inspiration was not/are not "shadow" them?   If they not receiving Inspiration from God...All their hard spiritual work is of human source, and result of human inspiration. 
    Or we can go to use this logic.
    If 20%, 10% or 5% of teachings in WTJWORG is indisputable truth, reason for that is because holy spirit revealed that truth to this human. Revelation comes through Inspiration, i guess.  Or, somebody can give other perspective?!
    If 80%, 90% or 95% of teachings in WTJWORG is harmful chatter, reason for that is .....:)))) we all know the answer, or at least can give a assumption. :))
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from PebblesRodz77 in Isn't this an idol?   
    It seems how i will lose very quickly my  Total Reputation with BTK down votes :)))))) What if exactly that is his Secret Mission .... to DFD me from this place ? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Ok, but in His case, it seems how He wasn't need to follow advice "He gave" 2000  years later to His FDS aka GB in WT magazine, the 3 step model: empowered by spirit - assisted by angels - guided by God’s Word?. You using gospel reports to show how He Received holy spirit. When someone Received is that same as to be Inspired?? Received=inspired??!! I don't mind and can join you in this idea. But, problem stays with GB and WTJWORG. Did they Receiving holy spirit in the same way as Jesus did? Again, you state how JW's and GB not need formal education because THEY also like Jesus are Received, are Guided, are Learned, are Empowered, are Lead by Spirit of God.
    If it is so and If we want to believe that it is so...., how then this same spirit who acts in the same way with the same effect on people of blood and flesh (Jesus and FDS) bringing so different results?? Why you or somebody else want to eliminate negative results "of god's spirit" that is visible after GB left the conference room at Wednesday, and releasing error teachings for Jesus sheep worldwide?? 
    And please, don't say; Jesus was perfect, GB is not. Because if you think so, you would claim, in fact, how holy spirit is not strong enough to help imperfect people. :))
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Like the old saying goes "What is good for the Goose, is good for the Gander".
    You cannot have SELECTIVE application of that bloviating statement, Billy.
    It's either universally true, or it is not true.
    You cannot apply it to people you disagree with ... yet excuse the Governing Body.
    Having double standards is NOT the same as having twice as many standards.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    It's quite clear from your words that they are INTENDED to apply only to your agenda.
    If all four legged animals are horses ... then a cow must, by your logic, be a vegetable.
    Your Billy-think is fully evidenced by calling JW Insider "?winsider",  and thinking his screen name is an affront against God.
    Using that same logic, Jehovah's last name is .ORG.
     
     


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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    justice, mercy, love, humility, etc.
    This beautiful things you mentioned ... for sure are something that is effect, output (or in Bible terminology Fruit of Spirit) of Inspiration made by Spirit on Human. And also it  is something that can Inspire people around you or around somebody who shine with this beautiful wealth/richness.
    And as i mentioned before, we can look, I am looking, on this in two way.
    One is: Divine Inspiration in Direct way and in Real time moment made by Power Above.
    Another is: Divine Inspiration that already Existing in us, in our blood in our cells, from long time ago and waiting for our permission, our will,  the right moment of our readiness in our deep soul, to be expressed and to be seen on day light. 
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