Patiently waiting for Truth

Now that depends what you mean by the congregation.  In truth the Congregation is only the 144,000 but the term congregation has been misused to represent everyone serving God in one particular way. 

Quite obvious really. YHWH existed a long time before 'worldly time' was invented. There were no planets so no measurements of time in that way. 
Humans think too much of themselves and want things done according to their timeline. YHWH will not be rushed into anything like that. 
But 'Rambo' and others, including the GB, will keep on pretending they know more than eveyone else.
Of course, one day, Yeshua will give information to the spiritual 'JEW' and then the 'Ten men' will have some direction to follow. But that spiritual JEW will not be the present GB of JW org. 

Now that depends what you mean by the congregation.  In truth the Congregation is only the 144,000 but the term congregation has been misused to represent everyone serving God in one particular way. 

Ah, we are back to that thing when the two of you were bragging about your houseful of weapons. I have that all on record somewhere or i did. I remember using it on one of my facebook pages  

Please explain the difference between the first part of that scripture and the second part. After all there is an "AND" between the two parts so we should be able to understand both the first portion AND the second portion.
The first part says that one day with Jehovah is as a thousand years. That should be pretty easy. It would mean that one 24-hour day to a man is like 1000-years with Jehovah. Obviously it doesn't mean that Jehovah is 365,000 times slower than humans (as some people consider slowness). Perhaps it could imply that Jehovah can easily manage 1,000 years worth of heavenly accomplishments in a human's 24-hour period of earthly doings.
Then the second part seems to say the opposite: that 1,000 years of human, earthly doings is like only one day to Jehovah. It's mostly the second part of the verse that Peter is apparently using to show why that final judgment parousia had not begun yet, and why people were already, in those last days, ridiculing the parousia expectations during that first century.
But when we take both those ideas together, we see that it is really saying that Jehovah is outside of human time restrictions. It's not about giving us a formula that only relies on the second part of the verse. We can't just select only the part that seems useful to our theories. We have to take the whole Bible, where both these statements are true:
24 hours seems like 1,000 years to Jehovah   (1:365,000) 1,000 years seems like 24 hours to Jehovah   (365,000:1)

I have. Anyways after the Great Tribulation begins, the seperation of the sheep begins in secret. The Great Crowd simply keeps living on into Jehovah's New World. While the wicked SEE and lament over their dying condition. They wll relaize that they are dying the second death and become AFRAID of Jehovah's People. 
"All the peoples of the earth will have to SEE that Jehovah’s name has been called upon you, and they will be afraid of you." (Deut 28:10)
 

This was the sign of Jonah they will get.  In the scripture below it indicates that the disciples remembered his words and remembered what Jesus used to say.
 
 19  Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”l 20  The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21  But he was talking about the temple of his body. 22  When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this,n and they believed the scripture and what Jesus had spoken.
 
The point here - it is referring not to periods of literal time or the physical temple - but the body of Christ!  I quoted the scripture so you can read it with your own eyes!

Here’s a fine gem from this 3-day-old report about the ECHR decision—declaring the 2017 ban on God’s people in Russia illegal, and its underlying premise of “extremism” absurd  (The decision was not unanimous. One judge voted against. Which one? Of course—the Russian one.):
“Even accepting that the texts [used to prove that they were “extremists”] promoted the idea that the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses was superior to others or that it was better to be a Jehovah’s Witness than a member of another Christian denomination, it is significant that the texts did not insult, hold up to ridicule or slander non-Witnesses; nor did they use abusive terms in respect of them or of matters regarded as sacred by them.”
https://bitterwinter.org/russia-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses-unlawful/
A fine example of imitation. Sigh…for me as well. I have had to add a few to the block list. I’m too easily drawn in when certain ones say outrageous, misrepresented, and sometimes just plain stupid, things. It’s my bad. I should have better self-control.

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Do you know what the difference is between a crazy person and one that is merely eccentric?
 
How about $250,000 a year?
 
 

There are regular reminders in the news - and those are of child traffickers such as Epstein, the British royal house and many others who "openly" got away with a lifestyle of abuse (not just one under aged - but many, many many...). so I find it strange that you just focus one ONE group. 

I am convinced that whatever you use to validate your claim; whether it’s scripture or whether you use Wt’s quotes to validate their own belief system, you’ll get a downvote.  You could tell some people here that the sky is blue and the grass is green, but simply because it comes out of the “wrong” mouth, you get a downvote.  They are like three-year-olds that say “no” everything.
But it’s far worse than that.  They slander with words of emptiness, indicating that they would rather not hear authentic truth. They would rather cover their ears and believe in their confusion, and call you, the condemned one.  (Zech 7:8-12; 2 Thess 2:10)
Take for instance, the quote below. Will they read it and comprehend it?  Maybe, and then reject it.  Why?  Because it is I who posted it?  Because, they don’t believe that their organization made false predictions...ever?  Because, according to historical facts, it makes them uncomfortable to entertain the thought that their people are not really God’s faithful people, according to the quote?  Because they put the blame on others like their leaders, so they are not responsible for following them?  (Ezek 13:9; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
They won’t “go there”; they can’t process incoming truth, which is called spiritual drunkenness. (Isa 24:20; Job 12:25; John 12:40; Rev 18:3-8) And Satan who provides just enough “truth” to convince them that they are in God's organization, makes sure that they choose the lie, over any small morsels of truth that may be left in Wt’s teachings.  (Rev 16:13-16)
  “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an “end to the world,” even announcing a specific date.  Some have gathered groups of people with them and fled to the hills or withdrawn into their houses waiting for the end.  Yet, nothing happened.  The “end” did not come.  There were guilty of false prophesying.  Why?  What was missing?
Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophesy.  Missing from such people were God’s truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them.”  Awake, 10/8/1968
What is this entire magazine’s forecast? 
“What Will the 70’s Bring?” 
JWs will not access God's word to help them analyze what it true and what is false.  They listen instead, to the very leaders who have led them astray with doctrine of men, time after time after time.  
And they love it that way.  It's comfortable. (1 Thess 5:3)  They see the results of their obedience to men, by progression in status with the organization, or by their remaining in "good standing" with fellow believers. Those are immediate blessings of this life; far more important than the life to come.  (2 Cor 11:13-15,19,20)
"The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?"  Jer 5:31
 
 
How to Identify True Prophets
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thank you for this. Yes it just shows the stupidity of it all.  We all know the end of this old system is coming
BUT NONE OF US KNOWS WHEN.  Keep on the watch, YES. Make up false predictions NO. 

I appreciate that you finally fixed part of your mistake.
In the past few years you kept insisting that this quote about 1914 +120 years came from Russell himself. Later, you reworded slightly to make it look like it came from the beliefs of Russell himself. Now you finally admit above that it comes from the "International Bible Students Association." It doesn't of course. As I documented for you already, it's just a recent quote from a modern-day Russellite-styled "Bible Student" (not the IBSA) who still hopes to protect Russell's reputation against the  the failure of those old 1914 predictions.
The man you are quoting from is just another Internet forum contributor and writer, probably much like yourself, who would love to see that 1914 still has some specific significance to the "generation that will not pass away." I suspect that, like a lot of us, you see the folly of the word-game that some of the brothers (like Brother Splane) have begun playing with the multiple overlapping lifespans that make the length of that generation "fuzzy." You want to see 1914 become a clearer demarcation point that still plays a direct role in Bible prophecy.
Our publications admit that all the various teachings we had about the "generation" from 1879 to about 2009 were incorrect teachings. A lot of Witnesses I have talked to, still want those old statements to be correct, even if it means stretching things a bit. I still hear a Witness now and then say that there have been persons in Siberia that lived to be 120.
At least you are not emphasizing the possibility of a 120-year lifespan. I think a lot of Witnesses don't understand that by trying to hold to 1914 this way, they are really just making a mockery out of Jesus words. This idea that at least one person might have been born in 1914 and live to the year 2034 implies that Jesus was really saying something like this:
When you start to see all these things occurring, lift up your heads and rejoice, because all of you will be dead, except for maybe one of you. And if that one 120-year old person endures to the end, he will be saved. He will also be very thankful that the days of tribulation were cut short on account of the chosen one, him.

I took a look again at the yellow signs posted above just to make sure, and I did not see anything about any dates whatsoever.
I believe it is you who are missing the point, conflating at least two or more completely different ideas.
I would say but let’s say that the number is 120, OK well you can use the formula “a year for a day“ and multiply the 120 x 365 days in a year. Then you take that number and multiply by 1000 because  “ A day with the Lord is as 1000 years and a 1000 years is a day“, and what do you get?
You get 43,800,000 YEARS!
AND HERE IS THE PROOF, PRODUCED ON THE FINEST CALCULATOR THE EARTH HAS EVER PRODUCED!!!!!!!!!


 
so, looking at the above absolute proof verified by the finest calculator ever made, what does it all mean?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !

… and why not add 220, 320, or 420 years? Why not say the year 2525, and work backwards?

I read your article, and I did not see anything about 2034. What’s with that?
Why not add 220 years to 1914, and be just as ambiguous about 2134?

Yeah, I’m just kidding Peter, playing around with the silly software here that ranks people solely by how long they’ve been around. Had Walter kept the same moniker he would by now be ranked ubergenius.
Of course you are right in what you point out.

My best guess is that the Scripture in Genesis was talking ONLY about events of that time, and see nothing to indicate otherwise.
My best guess is that the Scripture in Matthew was talking ONLY about events of that time, and see nothing to indicate otherwise.
My best guess is that EBP is conflating two entirely different things, like trying to force a relationship between a hippopotamus, and a brick.
 

And THAT, Wally, is what a civil discussion looks like!

Being an American in America, you probably know a lot more about the GB, Watchtower, JW Org than i do.  Many news articles from America seem to be banned from reaching the UK. Some law or other, means that i am not allowed to read some articles. And some news just seems to fizzle out with no end results.
For example. Going back maybe three years now, in Canada victims of CSA seemed to have gathered lawyers together with the intention of bringing a 66 million dollar law suit against the GB / JW Org. the last i read about it was that the law suit was rejected / not allowed, buy some high court in Canada. Then nothing. No further news about it.
Example 2. Before Covid-19 there was information from an ex JW of internet fame (whom I totally dislike but others seem to love him) saying that the GB had been 'served notice' to appear in court in connection with CSA. Of course i have no idea how American law works, (I don't have much idea how UK law works either). However this man seemed quite confident that the GB had all been named individually to appear in court on charges of involvement with CSA. This man said he had himself been called as a witness to appear in court in this matter... Then the virus hit, and nothing more has appeared about the GB being 'brought to trial'. I've searched but found nothing. 
So yes James, you will know more of what is going on right now, than i do. 
My wife is a lovely lady. Well she puts up with me and that's not easy. We spend many happy hours together as we did this lunchtime on a picnic.  But we don't 'live in each others pockets'.  Right now she is 'working' in the garden and i am spending an hour on this desk top computer in the room i call my 'office'. 
It is not all completely useless crap. Some of it does give me food for thought. Some of it helps me to reconsider my own values. Some of it I actually take as reproof.  And some of it may help me to understand how Americans 'tick'. The 'collateral damage' thing which shocks me right through as i cannot see Yeshua allowing it, yet American JWs seem to think it's all ok.  So it's not all a waste of time. 
My life is very real, and this forum is only a tiny part of it. My wife and i do not watch any basic television. We sometimes watch a film of our choice on Netflix, but we never switch the television on and just sit in front of it. Other people that we know put the television on from 5pm until midnight, and they just sit and watch all the rubbish. Now that is what i call 'completely useless crap', just sitting watching one programme after another. So if I spend an hour or two on here, at least it involves a bit of thinking and sometimes two way conversation. 
Different viewpoints I suppose. When I'm on here I'm giving my wife a rest from constantly talking to her when she is trying to do other things. We both have our own hobbies and interests. Be real, we are together 24/7 almost. I'd drive her insane if i were to try to be by her side all the time.  Spending time doing our own things is good. 
Willy wonka / billy the kid, sometime mentions 'visitors to this site', and if that is so then some of my comments may give them warnings or at least give them some imformation that they di not have. And if people say that i play the same old record, well so does the GB in their Watchtower magazines. 
I disagree with your comment here. I have never forgotton past pain and happenings. God has however promised to remove all those things in that 'New World'.  But it is my past pain that makes me so keen to warn others and in some small way to see some justice done in this old world.
So yes, you and others can continue to think that I'm 'bat-crap crazy'  I'll let Yeshua be my judge. 

Oh dear again. It's now gone from politics to racism.   Oh and of course the continuing of name calling. 

Oh dear again. It's now gone from politics to racism.   Oh and of course the continuing of name calling. 

(Satire Alert!)
… I would bet you would be a lot of fun at parties, Wally, IF you ever got invited to one ….

On the other hand, I do note that software here labels her, in all its wisdom, a ‘mentor.’ I too am a mentor, as is Pudgy. You, on the other hand, are merely a ‘community regular.’
That means you should let @Araunado her job and mentor you.