César Chávez

Anyways, another factor to this whole situation is the fact Jehovah's Witnesses do not own and or build hospitals, have clubs for children, let alone preschools, any form of educational and or religious based institution for children and a list of other things, they do not have sporting events youth clubs, etc.
I cited an article before, but did not add this part in yet, so paraphrasing from what I had read thus far.

@Anna One thing is for sure, Apostasy can be damaging, especially if there is a sprinkle of Unchristian Philosophies that are involved, which is indeed a faith killer for the one who is unaware and or ill-equipped to fight and or see it. Something of that nature would render who stripped of faith, and believing that God does not exist without even touching Atheistism.

@César Chávez Yeah this author is something else, there are claims within the book that she was told by God this and that, on a crusade against an enemy (Jehovah's Witnesses) who has a hold on everyone in the world - what? She defended Trinity based doctrines, and on occasion, even attacks JWs in this sense as if they are wrong, but in order to cover up the notion she keeps jumping back to the religious leader of JWs.
She defended the comma johanneum (The false version of 1 John 5:7) and asserted that John 10:30 means Jesus is God, likewise to John 8:58.
She used the long version of Mark 16, known not to be Bible canon.
Royal points out the following:
They do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as Deity (John 8:58, 10:30) They don't believe in the Trinity, three people in one (John 10:30 and 1 John 5: 7) She argues that The Holy Spirit is a person and believes this teaching of "The Holy Spirit not being a person, only originated with JWs, to quote her [Holy Spirit is an active force or "only the power of Jehovah."You don't know the Holy Spirit and you don't recognize him as a person, but I don't blame you. I blame the unbiblical false teachings of the so-called faithful and discreet slave (See Luke 3:16,John 1:33 and Acts 1:8 ) .] She goes on to speak on how the holy spirit is indeed a person, a 3rd God, whom she calls Jesus and not YHWH. She even went as far back to Bible Students and said this of Pastor CTR [How do I know that the Holy Spirit was no longer in him [Russell]? He denied the deity of Christ saying that Jesus Christ the received his divinity as a gift after dying on the cross. And this is still one of the main beliefs of the JW organization] For even before JWs existed, 1st century Christians believed Jesus to be the son of God, not God himself, but Royal does not see this, yet she claims this revelation is from God Almighty. She continues [By denying the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of the Lord, they are denying Jesus Christ as deity. Because of this, the governing body, the so-called faithful and discreet slave is the Antichrist] The irony of it all, both Srecko and 4Jah2me made a response on the thread concerning John 17:3.... She makes a remark that appears as if the JWs have a very high body count when it comes to suicide, adding that JWs are in favor of, desires blood, purposely pushing people to suicide. She attacks them for blood transfusions, but at the same time says they are right, and just brushed it off for a conversation for another day. She considers the later, no she said the Holy Spirit told her a revelation about the latter faith being bloodsucking demons, but remains convoluted in the subject of blood, contradicting herself several times, even attacking Doctors. An example below: [Almost a year after receiving this revelation about the devil bloodsucker, the Lord showed me in a vision an ugly little demon who was drinking blood. It was a time when I felt very tired, completely weak and I suffered many attacks on my health and my finances. I asked the Lord what this meant and why was he showing me this ugly image.The Lord said, "This is the demon that is sucking the energy out of you to make you surrender to Me and your faith. This is the demon that causes you pain and for which you are losing strength.Rebuke that demon, and see how you will regain your strength. "I rebuked that bloodsucking demon and spread the blood of Jesus against him. I started to feel better and regained my strength.Why am I sharing this personal vision with you? I want to assure you that demons are real. Everything you experience and suffer physically has been done in the spiritual.] She alluded to ARC and twisted information on child abuse, even stating that The Lord gave her a revelation in regarding this. She refered to Jesus as a "She" when it is known that Jesus is a born Jew who is male. She proclaims that Jesus is God and it is to him you have to render sacred religious service, as well as mocking and lowkey insulting YHWH. She deems Non-Trinitarian Christianity originated with Jehovah's Witnesses, despite the fact it is fact that Non-Trinitarianism aka Subordinationism was practiced among 1st century Christians, i.e. The Didache (60-120 A.D.). The list goes on... It is more of a rant. Also it is safe to say she was given revelations by The Lord, as is with a Spirit. As, I remember the Bible was very clear about
Galatians 1:8 reads -  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Granted fallen angels/demons were once angels, and since they are spirits, you can see where this is going.
Now no one is denying that Child Abuse happens in the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses, it is everywhere, but like I said, to over exaggerate is a disgusting thing, even when she goes about suicide in the wrong way.
What makes it even more distasteful is that she conjured up a prayer, speaking in prayer as if Jesus is God Almighty. She, as is with parts of the book she, again makes a notion of God [to her it is Jesus] is speaking to her to fight against JWs to be born again with what she deems as truth...
She cited and promoted the late Evangelist known as Reinhard Bonnke German Evangelist, mind you this guy is part of KAIROS MOVEMENT! of ALL things...This man was deemed by mainstream Christianity as one of God's Generals.
To quote Derek, he is in the right for saying what he said. 
I have a strong disdain for The Trinity, as is with mixing verses and misapplying them to fit an exegesis, mainly found in this book. I hate the absurdities of suicide mentioned in this.
This is a book that would even make the most disgruntled JWs out there feel ashamed of, it is that bizarre and rant ridden.
This is why Christians can see through the nonsense. Anyone can choose to agree or disagree with the faith in question, but to go through hoops to speak of absolute craziness???
Moreover, she is also using Jehovah's Witnesses as a cover to attack those who believe Jesus is God's Son, Non-Trinitarian Christians.
That being said, if someone really read the Bible and understood what discernment means and being vigilant, they would easily see that Ms. Royal is no different from the Praiser Evangelist of mainstream Christendom who believes they are inspired like Apostle John. That said, there is a reason as to the purchase count of this book is minuscule, and possible the onlooker would opt out for a Spiderman comic book instead of the same price.
Further analyzing this German Evangelist, it is not only she is of mainstream Christianity, but clearly, she has quite the spirit on her, not a good one either.

Clear ignorance. Yet it was Defender and Matthew that set you packing, did they not? To which they spin doctored your own words against, did they not? They claim you were a JW when you are former, did they not? This is why there are those out there that can't preach the gospel because they end up lukewarm.
In this situation, there are NO inspired prophets that came forth after Apostle John, yet this author says otherwise, I pointed this out, others have pointed this out, even former Jehovah's Witnesses, but apparently for a while now, if I bring up former JWs, you deem them as wrong because their facts do not sit well with you.
That being said, no, not for this one.
Suicide is a serious thing and I do not like people going beyond truth in this matter. The author made claims that the rate is ridiculously high in this faith alone, to which I, as stated in the past, even with facts, can see the error in this author. Prove me wrong because all it takes is a citation, in this regard, I will make an example out of you. For this is a tree you cannot cut down, and falsehood in this sense is a damnable one, I say this both with conviction and by means of my faith in God, that is how serious I see things, mainly when people exaggerate those who have fought against demons and lost.

That’s actually a very sobering thought.   It truly is a “war” between truth and lies.  
Jesus rides on the side of God’s Truth (Rev 19:11), not “truth” as defined by men who lean on a few valid and truthful doctrines, but spout off a plethora of false ones.  (Rev 19:19)
Yet, it is only God’s truth and righteousness, that will win out in the end.  (Rev 19:20,21)
“Look, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me to repay each person according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes,  so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood."  Rev 22:12-15
 
 

While they may have moved extra funds to a different location, I do not trust the spin or angle the media is putting on it......... if you trust the media after all the junk that is published -  you are pretty naive. 
 

In Australia not sure in the other parts of the world all congregations banks accounts were emptied and funds were redirected overseas now congregations only are allowed to keep $5000  in their accounts funny enough this information was not read to the JWs was only Elders knowledge.

Yeah and New Zealand has started their own investigation on the JWs too.

"A News Corp investigation into the global Christian sect Jehovah's Witnesses has revealed they have allegedly pushed cash offshore to avoid paying compensation to Australian child sex abuse victims."
 
https://www.news.com.au/national/special-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses/video/a334969a3052132c8cab3c94ccc4925e

Pardon, I do not understand what you are conveying in this regard. My only issue is I do not like misconception and falsehood of any subject, this includes faith communities. You can agree/disagree with someone of that community, but to speak of something that is misleading and or off the rails, that demands a refute. Outside of that my biggest focus and concern is mainstream Christendom, and the ill use of their own exegesis when it comes to Scripture. Also I am a truther, so I take misinformation very seriously too.
That being said, the fact you mentioned Bill The Kid and referring to him as a parrot.... Relation to John Butler? He refereed to me as a parrot several times when I corrected him on history, race, child abuse statistics by race/sex to which he deemed me racist when I simply use facts straight from the F.B.I. (Federal Bureau of Investigation) itself, and Strong's and Tradition vs. Bible Teachings.
Mr. Butler's engine runs on emotion to the point he evades facts, and the last time I responded to him was concerning an issue, to which he has never updated anyone of of us on regarding a CoCA, something, as I mentioned in my solutions, which is quite difficult to combat even by means of the Law of the Land in the UK (even in the US).
 

Billy the Kid = CC goes on and on like a parrot saying the same things over and over, trying to convince himself that he is right.  And he drags it back a hundred years into the Bible Student era, which @Arauna is opposed to.  But then @Arauna  drags it back even further to the Sanhedrin.......... To prove what ?
With all your burblings and pretence of a governing body in the first century, the truth is that it was the Apostle Paul that took the 'word' to the nations, AND it was the Apostle Paul that wrote the Letters to the Congregations. And he didn't go up to Jerusalem for the first THREE years of his ministry. So he was not influenced by any human 'governing body' at all. Paul received his direction directly from the resurrected Jesus Christ. 
True servants of God do not want independence from God, they want to serve God through Christ. 
So this stupid idea of 'you have to be a JW to serve God' is hogwash at the moment. Maybe in the future when that organisation is cleaned out then God through Christ may use it, but not right now. Maybe the GB are being examined by Christ, as Christ has the authority to judge them. Maybe Christ will replace the GB and clean the org' to make it clean and usable. 
Arauna and others seems to think that the CCJW / GB / Watchtower 'created' the core scriptures and beliefs. Please don't be so puffed up, those scriptures were written long before the Org ever existed AND others believed those scriptures before. And even now others outside of the CCJW believe such things. I think @Space Merchant is proof of this point. So please don't pretend that only JWs have these beliefs.
 
 

I believe how this "guys stuck on the past" are wary, because they are not sure if they can trust an organization that has made false beliefs, doctrines in the past, and never show regret and apologize  to members, become reliable today ?!. 
How you can believe they are reliable today, when they changing doctrines and interpretations, instructions on an annual basis ?!

How silly to reason this way. No other Christian religion understands the ransom sacrifice which is the CRUX for everlasting life.  If you believe in an immortal soul - then Jesus dit not really die and did not really pay for our sins.
Jesus only received immortality as a 'reward' for his faithfulness........... so it is silly to reject the importance of this CORE teaching of JWs........ just to name one teaching.
So to judge GB on some historical old and little  thing you  personally take issue with, is not wise ......when the CORE teachings are absolutely correct and  are crucial to get absolutely right for everlasting life.... Apparently you think you can cherry pick core teachings? And reject gods organization on something which you perceive/judge to be a minor misdemeanour?  

Billy the Kid, what rubbish you talk. A Governing Body GOVERNS. RULES OVER. 
The GB of the CCJW rules over 8.5 million people, or there abouts. 
Jesus did not rule over, and He told the disciples not to rule over. He said that was how the 'world' works. 
Do not be lording it over the congregation. 
But you still miss the point of the 1st century 'body in Jerusalem' being inspired by God's Holy Spirit, and they GAVE PROOF OF IT BY THEIR WORKS. 
The GB of CCJW are not inspired and the lies written in the March 2020 Watchtower are laughable. 
For the GB to pretend that they were appointed by Jesus, and that Jesus refers to them as the F&DS.. It's lies or at very least deceitful.  

Billy the Kid it becomes impossible to talk to you as you seem to deliberately twist everything I write.
Quote :-
 Keep in mind, Paul was a prosecutor of Christians. When do you believe, Apostle Paul never received God’s Holy Spirit since the majority of the NT was written by Paul to the congregations. Are you now suggesting the Bible is just a fabrication and a story for children? Is Paul evil in your mind?
It was I that wrote that the Apostle Paul was inspired by Holy Spirit and guided personally by Jesus Christ.
It was I that wrote that Paul was not one of the twelve and that HE wrote all those letter to the congregations. 
But you now twist it all to pretend that i said the opposite. 
 

I studied worldly history myself to see where pagan traditions come from.  However, I need not go and read how Russel felt about it or even what Rutherford said about it.  It is a historical fact - it was then and it is now. And our current books explain it quite well.
You are trying to compare slippers with pumpkins.
 

Furuli's Introduction and Chapter 1 are important as a foundation to the topic, but we can skip them for the purpose of a discussion. We'll go straight to Chapter 2 which starts out with a summary "review" that I have copied below.
Furuli opens up the discussion with the words I put on the left, and I'll add some comments on the right. They are color-coded to match up which paragraphs are being commented upon.
THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE -REVIEW
In Matthew, chapters 24 and 25, the presence (parousia) of Jesus from 1914 to the great tribulation is mentioned four times, and his coming (erkhomai) as the judge in the great tribulation, at the end of his presence, is mentioned eight times.
 
The faithful and discreet slave is mentioned in Matthew 24:45-47. The previous view of the GB was that the coming of the master (v. 46) occurred in 1918, and the slave was appointed over all his belongings in 1919. These belongings included the branch offices, the Kingdom Halls, and the preaching work.
The present view is that the coming (v. 46) is future and will happen in the great tribulation. Then the slave will be appointed over all the belongings by receiving a heavenly resurrection. This new view excludes any connection between the coming (v.46) and the presence of Jesus.
Nevertheless, The Watchtower of 2017 says that the slave was appointed in 1919 to give God's servants spiritual food at the proper time during the presence of Jesus. But no evidence has been given for this claim.
Luke 12:35-44 discusses the faithful steward, the discreet one, which, according to the context, is the same as the faithful and discreet slave in Matt 24:45. One slave was put in charge of a master's household to give the other slaves literal food at the appointed time. Such a slave is mentioned in Luke chapter 12, and when he faithfully is giving the other slaves food when the master returns, thus doing his job, he will be appointed over all the belongings of the master.
The situation is the same in Matthew 24:45-47. That the slave gives literal food to the other slaves is his job. When he is doing this job faithfully when the Lord arrives in the great tribulation, he will be appointed over all the master's belongings. The focus is on literal food and not on spiritual food. Thus, "the slave" refers to individual Christians who are faithful when the master arrives and not to a class of persons.
In Matthew 24:48-51, the wicked slave is mentioned. The GB says that Jesus is not saying that a wicked slave will come, but points to the possibility; this is correct. However, neither in Luke 12:42 nor in Matthew 24:45 is Jesus saying that the faithful and discreet slave will come. But Jesus asks who the faithful and discreet slave will be. In other words: "Who will fill the role of the faithful and discreet  slave in the illustration of Jesus when Jesus comes as the judge in the great tribulation?" The whole setting in Luke 12 and Matthew 24 is:"Who will be on the watch when Jesus comes as the judge"?
Furuli still supports the idea that the "parousia" began in 1914 and goes on  until the "erchomai" (Judgment Day). Most Bible scholars believe that the "parousia/ synteleia/ telos/ erchomai" are all nearly synonymous, which coincidentally results in the same outcome as Furuli sees here. That's because the FDS illustration is specifically tied to the erchomai and there is no specific to to the beginning of the parousia.
Furuli is setting up to show how the doctrine got "confused" over time, and pieces of the interpretation are still based on older versions of the doctrine which are no longer consistent with parts of the new version. That's because the doctrine began when the erchomai was not "Judgment Day" but a judgment based on Jesus "coming in 1918 to inspect the temple." After the FDS passed the test in 1918, they were then appointed over all his belongings in 1919. Those belongings were said to be the properties and purview of the WTS. (I think that Kingdom Halls weren't added to this list until around 2006.)
It's not like the GB hadn't thought if this, because (as Anna pointed out in the other thread) they are now only supposed to be appointed as FDS prior to the "full reward" which allows for an appointment in 1919, it's just that there is no specific scriptural reason any more to place this appointment anywhere between 1914 and the future erchomai (Judgment).
Furuli's logic has started to weaken. He's right, of course, that there are no longer any scriptural reasons here to point to 1919, except to fit the GB's own view of themselves. There is no more reason to pick 1919 than 1915, 1935, 1972, or maybe even 33 CE. But nothing excludes a 1919 date either, even if one doesn't believe an invisible presence and kingship started in 1914. However, if Furuli really still believes in 1914 as he says he does, and he expects a single generation in which a preaching work occurs in the midst of trials and tribulations, then why not provide an FDS specifically or that special generation? If 1914 works for Furuli, then there is some logic to appoint an FDS shortly after that generation begins.
Nothing to see here. This is fairly obvious that Luke 12 gives the same illustration with exact same idea and only a few words added or changed.
I personally agree with this. Jesus was talking about persons who have a responsibility to do a job, that of giving literal food to the rest of the slaves in a household when the master is gone. A slave who is handles such a responsibility faithfully can expect a reward. Especially because it would be so easy to slack off and take advantage while the master is away. It doesn't have to be a prophecy about "spiritual" food  It's not a prophecy. It's an illustration just like others Jesus made about readiness.
Furuli is not giving credence to the WT idea that this must be a prophecy because it's found in Matthew 24 and Luke 12. Also, it starts out with a "who is" which has been taken to be a command of sorts to go out and identify who is meant here. Furuli seems to treat it like any other illustration, as if reminding us that we don't automatically create a type/antitype out of the carcass and the eagles in verse 28. We don't automatically look for a pregnant woman class and the nursing baby class from verse 18.  Who really is a householder that will know in advance when a thief is coming to break into his house? (v44)
At first it appeared that Furuli was agreeing with a linguistic reason from Greek that the WT uses to downplay the possibility of an evil slave coming. But this is really just agreeing that there is nothing definite here about a wicked slave coming. And this is paralleled with his view that this illustration is also not saying anything definite about a faithful slave coming, either. That's a surprising turn, but I suppose it's really like Luke 11:11 saying "Who really is the father who will hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish?" It makes a teaching lesson, not a prophecy about when such a situation will prove true. Furuli treats it as if Jesus is saying what he said in Luke 18: 
(Luke 18:8) Nevertheless, when the Son of man arrives, will he really find this faith on the earth?”
 

That was the point. He followed in the steps of Russell who made no use at all of the board of directors who were only there for legal reasons and possible continuity of the Society if something were to happen to Russell. When people in Rutherford's day compared him to Russell, they said that Rutherford was even more autocratic/dictatorial/monarchial. So I included Russell as a means of comparison.

He does deal with that objection, claiming that the world's influence can be found just as easily anywhere and everywhere (school, work, vocational training, etc), and that pinning so much blame on higher education is unfounded. To him, higher education is a serious endeavor, and there are mostly serious schools where one can mostly focus on those endeavors. He also believes that the Society, and Witness families would have generally done a better job caring for one another if more had completed their studies to become nurses, IT professionals, etc. The idea that the time is too short to get this kind of education through college degrees has not proven correct, as it has now been 12 years since Losch told an audience that they should quit college even if they are nearing the end of their degree program, and that they will be accountable to Jehovah if they don't. 
His primary problem, he indicates, is that the negative information about higher education is skewed. It's a caricature of higher education, and Furuli thinks this shows that the GB, especially Splane and Losch, have no idea even what higher education really is. Also, he compares the balanced information of 1992 with the new, unbalanced "radical" information against higher education in 2005. He shows how all the sources were misused in that article, and criticizes the misuse of that information in talks since 2005. He compares his own experience against the counsel from the GB.

I hate to say it, but you are quite right on this one. I knew that these time periods were always subject to change any time something better comes along. And I was actually very surprised we held onto this 1944 date when the 1999 Daniel's Prophecy book came out. But I was more surprised that it took me this long to notice the significance of the 1971 date for this change. The footnotes of the 1971 Watchtower spell out very clearly that this is the first adjustment since 1959 (which was about the same as the 1933 WT before that).

The understanding of the Elder arrangement had already been spelled out in the November 1, 1944 Watchtower (evidently written by Fred Franz). But the idea was not brought up again seriously until around 1969 when the Aid Book article on "Elder" needed to be approved. The understanding of problems with 1914 were known since well before COJ. And yes, by members of the Bethel family, including several persons on the GB, and several in Writing. Also at least one in the Service Dept, who was later transferred to Writing after 1982. I can guess that there were (and are) many more that I didn't know about at the time
You might be right here. It's also another point where Furuli and R.Franz intersect in their thinking. Both of them have written that they recognize that the Watchtower never had a real Governing Body in any spiritual sense like the supposed Jerusalem Council. Or even like a Sanhedrin. Not back in 1919 or before, and not really until 1975. There never was a body of "governing" elders involved in real decision-making until after the GB vote in December 1975. And it was Ray Franz' proposal that spear-headed a GB that acted like a council. Like a kind of Sanhedrin. In his book he tries to minimize his involvement in pushing for that decision, but at the time I think he knew his 64-page proposal, if approved, would likely result in a real GB like the one today. And it did, even with the same committee structure he had proposed.
I think these are all good points. I think it's almost inevitable that a Governing Body of some sort will develop. And if it is scriptural to have a presbytery, or body of elders, in the congregations, then why not some similar kind of leadership over multiple congregations. (Timothy and Titus were previous examples)
And as the work becomes more international, the most efficient version of the body of elders, is a body of elders who can make decisions appropriate to the logistics and efforts and distribution requirements of a worldwide congregation.
I think what made both R.Franz and R.Furuli uncomfortable is when they realized it didn't work out to their own expectations.

Some time around 1971, that prophecy changed from 1932 to 1944. This changed in --you guessed it-- 1971! I'm assuming that Fred Franz had caught the contradiction himself. This is definitely his writing, below (and likely above, too) as he was the only one allowed to define the 2300 evenings and mornings, the 1290, 1335, etc. I never caught this before that the timing was so close to the timing of the elder arrangement being brought back, so that the 2300 days no longer made sense as the time when the elder arrangement was abolished.
*** w71 12/1 pp. 724-725 pars. 27-29 What Its “Right Condition” Means for Us Today ***
When did those 2,300 evenings and mornings begin? By knowing this we can find out when they end and thus when Jehovah’s “holy place” is “brought into its right condition,” or, “shall be restored to its rightful state” . . . At the earliest this was on June 1, 1938, when the official magazine of Jehovah’s anointed remnant of underpriests at His sanctuary, namely, The Watchtower, published Part One of the article entitled “Organization,” so as to state more fully the theocratic requirements for it. When we calculate according to the Jewish lunar calendar that was used at the time of Daniel’s vision centuries before the Julian calendar and Gregorian calendar were introduced, June 1, 1938. . .
28 If we thus count from the critical period when theocratic organization was being more fully installed in the congregations of Jehovah’s witnesses, when did the 2,300 days end?
29 Remember, this is a prophetic period. So a prophetic year of 360 days is involved. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14) So 2,300 days would amount to six lunar years, four lunar months and twenty days. That amount of time counted from Sivan 2 (June 1), 1938, would end on Tishri 21 (October 8), 1944, or, counted from Sivan 16 (June 15), 1938, it would end on Heshvan 5 (October 22), 1944. At that particular time world events were moving closer to the bringing of the beastlike Eighth World Power out of the abyss shortly after World War II, this time in the form of the United Nations organization, for world peace and security.

Interesting.  Which is truly scriptural, the elder arrangement today, or the elimination of the elder arrangement in Rutherford's day?  Is God so fickle that He would approve of both the elimination AND the re-installment of the elder body in the 70's?  Of course, Rutherford wanted total power.  Yet, he refers to scripture to prove his point, just as scripture was used to verify the elder arrangement in 1970-71.  
"Therefore be it resolved that there is no Scriptural authority for the existence of the elective office of elders in the church and that henceforth we will not elect any person to the office of elder; that all of the anointed of God are elders, as that term is defined by the Scriptures, and all are servants of the Most High. . . . A service director who shall be nominated by us and confirmed by the Society’s executive or manager, and which service director shall be a member of the service committee of this company.
"This Resolution was adopted by congregations of Jehovah’s witnesses throughout the earth. The announcement in the Watchtower magazine of October 15, 1932, at the end of 2,300 evenings and mornings was the official notification made by Jehovah through his visible channel of communication that his sanctuary of anointed “living stones” had been cleansed, vindicated and justified. It had been restored to its rightful state as regards the elimination of democratically elected “elders” and as regards the theocratic appointing of the congregational overseer. Certainly the twenty-four elderly persons whom the apostle John saw in his heavenly vision crowned and seated on thrones around the throne of the Most High God were not “elders” democratically elected by the congregations on earth below. They were “elders” chosen by the Sovereign of the universe because of their full Christian growth and proved integrity. Certainly, too, the “seven stars” whom John saw upon the right hand of the glorified Jesus Christ and who pictured the “angels” or overseers of the congregations of Jehovah’s anointed sanctuary class were full-grown “elders” chosen and controlled, not by the congregations after the democratic procedure of the seventh world power, but by the Supreme Head of the theocratic organization through Jesus Christ. (Rev. 1:16, 20; 2:1; 4:4, 10, 11) Rightly the remnant of the sanctuary class on earth was brought into accord with this theocratic rule in Jehovah’s due time."
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1959723#h=17
 
 
 

Okay, JWI has posted a new topic. I don’t want to catch any of you saying irrelevant things. I don’t want 4Jah talking about CSA. I don’t want Allen talking about Zondervan. I can post some of my vacation pictures, of course, but everyone else had better behave. You want me to blow you in to the Old Hen?

The first thread started on this topic, and the topic has already garnered hundreds of responses. But it hasn't dealt much with Rolf Furuli's own theme. His real topic is about how the JW religion is "right," but the current Governing Body is "wrong." That's an unsolvable contradiction to many.
Furuli tries to solve this conundrum by claiming that the GB shouldn't even exist, and that they should not try to find justification for their existence in the parable of the faithful and unfaithful slave/steward of Matthew 24 and Luke 12. There is also the idea in the book that it's only a previous version of the JW religion that is "right." The current version has lost doctrines that should have been kept and this is the fault of a GB that should not exist in the first place. 
There will also be inevitable comparisons between Rolf Furuli and Ray Franz. And there will be associations made between Furuli and Fred Franz, too.
I'll leave this topic up here for a while to see if anyone is interested in discussing any of these points. I'll hold off any additional discussion from my end for a while.