Emma Rose

Psalm 83:18 "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth"

The online King James Bible has retained the name Jehovah in this verse.  

The name Jehovah is represented by four Hebrew consonants known as the Tetragrammaton.

Jehovah means "He causes to become"

40 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

I suspect that she knows what she is doing, even if I don’t.

You'll get there Tom  

46 minutes ago, Anna said:

Excellent topic. But can I suggest, if you want to start another discussion, for example on the above subject, then go to the top of the page, and depending on what device you are using, click on "new topic" (on the computer) or the "plus sign" (on Android phones) and start a new topic that way. If people follow you (I do) they will see it. Or, you can search relevant words, and see if there is a topic already on this subject and then add your comment to it. This will resurrect the thread again and people will respond to what you post. And, if you want to direct those who have been commenting on this topic here, you can insert the link here to the topic there. 👍

Excellent advice, thank you.  Complete newbie here 👍

Thought for the day:

Jehovah is God's name.  It was originally in the Bible in over 7,000 places but has been removed by various bodies due to superstition etc.  Micah 4:5 For all the people will walk, each in the name of it's god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever.

2 hours ago, Anna said:

Emma, there aren't many people on this forum that actually comment or even read anything. It's just a handful. There are two sides, the ex-JWs, and the JWs like Tom, JWI, me and a few others. This is not a forum where interested ones (people who want Bible studies) hang out. The JWs who are here have their various reasons for being here.

For me, it's good training ground. I get to learn about various controversial topics that are not really discussed anywhere else except maybe on apostate sites. This is not an apostate site, but some with controversial ideas are allowed to comment here, and this makes for interesting discussions....sometimes. In any case, it helps me to sharpen my faith. That's just how I feel about it. Tom and the others have their own reasons too, and may be different from mine.

So if you are looking to find someone who has genuine questions, well, as far as I know, there are non here at the moment. But, whoever ventures here can follow the conversations and comments, and see how we, the JWs respond to them. And they can make their mind up about what makes sense. So in a way you are giving a "witness" of some sort by commenting....

 

Well it's open for business now 😉

 A hat trick no less 😄

That narrows it down to 'Witness', are you considered an apostate by JW's?

25 minutes ago, Witness said:

"Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”

²³ But detecting their craftiness, He said to them, ²⁴ “Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?”

“Caesar’s,” they said.

²⁵ “Well then,” He told them, “give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”   Luke 20:22-25

 

Did Jesus say, take half of that coin and give it to God? No. It had Caesar’s name on it, not God’s.   Shouldn’t this tell us that money is not needed to worship God “in spirit and truth”? (John 4:23,24)  Any money that Jesus and the disciples had, was given to those in need – the poor.  Can your organization let go of all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21; Luke 12:33)  After Jesus left the earth, the congregations shared everything, they supported one another.  This is our template to go by.  If you had read the post link, you may have understood.  

 We convince ourselves that we need money for religious purposes, when we are told and believe leaders of a religious organization cannot feed us spiritual food without it. They cannot spread their version of “truth”.  (Matt 23:15)  “There is more money going out, than coming in”, GB Stephen Lett stated. This is manipulation, and we know it worked. People were changing their meager budgets to give to men who were already money-rich. All involved at the top, have this insatiable drive to build and expand on, their fleshly desires. (Matt 19:21-24)   They are now selling kingdom halls to free up money for larger projects.  The development of the organization is the same development as all other religious organizations. So, what sets your religions apart?  Nothing, really; expect the anointed trapped within. (Rev 20:7-9)  It tell lies also, just as other religious do.  Money is required to keep religious leadership’s power and authority stable over the “flock”; no matter if it is the Catholic church, or the Mormon church, or the Wt. organization.  The end result, is power to manipulate another person’s spiritual well-being.  The organization has always thrown up the example of the Catholic church in the faces of its members, expounding on its riches.  Well, when it comes to its own riches, they are dead quiet about it.  There is no transparency at the top.

What is the distinction between pure worship and false worship?  Pure worship does not require money. The Temple of God, the dwelling of His Spirit, does not need riches to promote “spirit and truth”.  (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  It does not need a physical, literal mountain to worship at.  That was Jesus’ point when talking to woman at the well.  A literal mountain is seen from a distance.  Wt has built many of them, for the world to see, with riches procured from those who have fallen for their deception. (Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 1:16; 2:2) And the organization glorifies its works that they have ‘collected’ in these endeavors. (Luke 4:5-7)  Wouldn’t you agree that other religions have been successful at that also?   Jesus was saying that building organized mountains, are not the way to worship God. 

 Truth in Christ is light, that radiates outwardly from within. (Luke 6:45)  He told those whom HE would send, that they would be a lamp shining in a dark place, just as he was the light of the world. (Matt 5:14-16; John 1:4,5; 13:20) As the source of living water, his words were enough for us to recognize truth and he did not charge money to receive it.  He didn’t ask for donations. If your leaders were truly part of the vine of Christ, they would not expect you to give money for it either.   (John 15:1-6; 7:38)  Riches are not necessary to produce his truth.   

 Can your organization sell all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21)   It has become “treasure” for all who are part of it.  It is their desire of the eyes, so much so, that thousands travel many miles to flock to its ornate buildings.

You had a source of spiritual riches when knowing the two anointed ones you spoke about.  Sadly, they most likely didn’t understand the light of truth was in themselves, since they bought their spiritual provision from a false prophet. (Matt 25:1-13;;Rev 13:11,12,15-17)  They were captivated by “empty philosophy” just as you are.  (Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16)  God’s Spirit dwelled within their heart – the spirit of truth, and His laws were written within it.  (Rom 5:5; 1 John 2:27; Heb 10:16)  Instead, they submitted to the corrupt rulership of an organization built with literal riches.  In your organization, the “living stones” of the Temple are not allowed to shed their “light” God gave them in Spirit, since it would conflict with the false light from your evil slave. (Rev 8:10,11)  Each anointed one, is a “teacher” of the law fulfilled in Christ.  Yet, those who are subservient to an evil slave are restricted from teaching Christ’s truths.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)

 “Don’t collect for yourselves treasures (“or valuables”) on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. ²⁰ But collect for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves don’t break in and steal. ²¹ For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”  Matt 6:19-21

Does your organization adhere to this teaching of Jesus? Or, does it tell only its members not to do this?

I speak of both the Father and the Son.  I listen to the words of Christ, as the Father told us to. (Matt 17:5)

Jesus answered, “If you knew the gift of God, and who is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would ask him, and he would give you living water.”  John 4:10

John 7:37,38 - On the last and most important day of the festival, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, he should come to me and drink! ³⁸ The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have streams of living water flow from deep within him.” 

“Come, everyone who is thirsty,
come to the waters;
and you without money,
come, buy, and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without cost!
² Why do you spend money on what is not food,
and your wages on what does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
and you will enjoy the choicest of foods.
³ Pay attention and come to Me;
listen, so that you will live.
I will make an everlasting covenant with you,
the promises assured to David.
⁴ Since I have made him a witness to the peoples,
a leader and commander for the peoples,
⁵ so you will summon a nation you do not know,
and nations who do not know you will run to you.
For the Lord your God,
even the Holy One of Israel,
has glorified you.”  Isa 55:1-5

 

 

 

 

 

"...detecting their craftiness..."  They were trying to put him on the spot about taxes.  Romans 13:1-8, particularly note verses 6 and 7: "That is why you are also paying taxes...render to all their dues, to the one who calls for tax, the tax;..."  

2 Cor 8:14 is speaking of contributions made so that those with more could equalize with those that had less...that calls for contributions, which is how we arrive here, our contributions are used to offset the needs of those that have less.  I am more than happy to contribute donations for my brothers and sisters that may have needs that I don't.

Jesus said the widow that dropped two small coins in, dropped in more than all the rest that dropped in out of their surplus, but she dropped in all she had, ergo, there were contributions being made, always have been. Mark 12:43

Hahaha...our buildings are not ornate, hahaha...thank you for that chuckle, they are clean, well kept and free of idols.

I have to tell you, I am not manipulated by anyone to part with my cash.  

Again, the scriptures are replete with examples of donations given to further the worship of God.  I can get into that if you like but I feel sure you already know.

11 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

In relation to what, to whom? :))

Perhaps the question should be: Do JWs consider me an apostate? :)))

Ok, do JW's consider you an apostate?

16 hours ago, Witness said:

By teaching that an organization, filled with corruption, in Satan's world will bring JWs salvation, Jesus as the only Way, Truth, and Life, has become less important. (John 14:6; 4:21-24) God's Temple priesthood has become less important. (Matt 16:18) God's Temple has no meaning, but the organization...JWs cannot live without. 

That's just the beginning of your organization's full rejection of Christ's teachings.  By looking to the brainstorm of men, your leaders have paved the way for going beyond the teachings of Christ.  

"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

"Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”  Acts 4:12

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen." Rom 1:25

 

 

 

Are you considered an apostate?

16 hours ago, Witness said:

By teaching that an organization, filled with corruption, in Satan's world will bring JWs salvation, Jesus as the only Way, Truth, and Life, has become less important. (John 14:6; 4:21-24) God's Temple priesthood has become less important. (Matt 16:18) God's Temple has no meaning, but the organization...JWs cannot live without. 

That's just the beginning of your organization's full rejection of Christ's teachings.  By looking to the brainstorm of men, your leaders have paved the way for going beyond the teachings of Christ.  

"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

"Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”  Acts 4:12

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen." Rom 1:25

 

 

 

We are fully aware that Jehovah brings salvation and that when that time of judgement arrives, we will all be judged individually.  If there are those that someone here referred to as PIMOs (physically in, mentally out), they will be judged accordingly.  

19 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures.  He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John.  He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. - NIV

Apollos already had accurate teaching/knowledge/faith about Lord. One thing is mentioned here about baptism detail that was different. He was already instructed about Jesus. It would be interesting to see what explanations came from Priscilla and Aquila that are under wording "more adequately".

Again, please consider what WT doing about "the way of God". They intrusively determine what is "the truth" about God and proclaim those who do not accept it with the name “apostates”. Perhaps JW's today need some new Priscilla and Aquila (married couple, aka female and male teachers) in WTJWorg Organization who would be able to explain the way of God, to temporary GB, more adequately/accurately.  

We can speak about two things about wording: 

     adverb: adequately:   A) to a satisfactory or acceptable extent. B) to a sufficient degree or extent

 

     adverb: accurately: A) in a way that is correct, exact, and without any mistakes B) without mistakes or errors

 

A) Was it about Priscilla's/ Aquila's ability as a speakers (educated, substantial vocabulary, etc) who know to adequately and sufficiently explain some more details of the topic to listener who already know core/basic teaching and have accurate information about Jesus?

B) Was it about Priscilla's/ Aquila's call/need to correct some wrong believes, ideas, perspective of listener?

... he knew only the baptism of John.

Issue of baptism is interesting if you have knowledge about changes on baptismal questions through WT history. If Apollos learned from this Christian couple that you need to be baptized in The Name of ..., how it is possible that JW candidate is baptized in The Name of Organization instead of Father, Son and HS? 

Question No 2: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?  ....New: ...identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah's organization?

Who today need adequate and accurate explanation? :))

 

Apollos needed to adjust what he knew, don't miss the point.  

Ah well, we'll be able to find out what Priscilla and Aquila taught him in the new system.  

Are you considered an apostate?  

I understand that my dedication and baptism identifies me as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization.  A reminder to work with God's spirit-directed organization.  If I call myself one of Jehovah's Witnesses, others will reach the conclusion that I'm associated with Jehovah's organization.

5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

¹⁷ Today’s watchman class has likewise had to clarify its views from time to time. Can anyone doubt, though, that Jehovah has blessed the ‘faithful slave’? Besides, viewed in context, are not most of the adjustments that have occurred relatively small? Our basic understanding of the Bible has not changed. Our conviction that we are living in the last days is stronger than ever! -https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1997604

I would like to direct your attention on this paragraph from WT 1997 study edition article. 

On one side you commented how JHVH' and Jesus' instructions are given in different time for different or certain purpose. Can you explain why would be how some "given instruction" in 1st century, be it more appropriate at a certain point of their or our time and some not? I believe how whole set of Jesus' teachings and instructions are good and appropriate for whole and each period of human lifetime. 

But this WT quote give answer why (perhaps you) JW members think differently about this. Because the need to "clarify  own  (watchman class aka GB) views came and coming from the reason they don't teach Jesus' or JHVH' teachings but own human doctrines.  

I guess, we have no need to adjust teachings from Bible, but in WTJWorg example, GB had/have need to adjust own interpretations about own teachings.  

For example, do we need to "adjust" God's teaching (law) about slavery to our time? No, because we don't want slavery today! So, we reject any past law (even if it was divine) that supported slavery. 

We are in position to follow or to not follow teachings and instructions revealed in Bible. 

Quote from WT say: Our basic understanding of the Bible has not changed. Our conviction that we are living in the last days is stronger than ever!

Here we have next thing. Author of article made self conviction how their (and all JW's) "basic understanding" (aka core understanding  /core=basic, central, key, fundamental, elemental, principal/) about something has not changed. And then continue with one basic or core JW teaching -  about "last days".

This Study article put accent on "basic understanding" that JW members strongly believe: Resurrection, Keep on Watch, Everlasting Life, Eternal Future, End is Close at Hand, Put Your Trust in Watchman aka GB.

Also have in mind that this is from the year 1997, that is 83 years after 1914 (Generation Doctrine).

And 13 years after famous WT study article: 1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away -https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1984361 

WTJWorg basic doctrine, let say, No 1, according to article: End is Close at Hand, that was based on other basic doctrine, let say, No 2: 1914-The Generation That Will Not Pass Away, ........ are both false, because each supported the other. You are aware of fact how 1914 Generation is replaced with Overlapping Generation. 

According to your understanding what is what in this case?! Milk and solid food or "to call a spade a spade" aka false teachings?

 

Have a read of Acts 18:24-26.  Here was Apollos, a Jew, well-versed in the scriptures and although he was speaking and teaching accurately the things about Jesus, he was acquainted only with the baptism of John, so what did Aquila and Priscilla do?  they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him.

Milk = what all of us learn at the start, Solid Food = what we come to learn over time.

Figure of speech 

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

¹⁷ Today’s watchman class has likewise had to clarify its views from time to time. Can anyone doubt, though, that Jehovah has blessed the ‘faithful slave’? Besides, viewed in context, are not most of the adjustments that have occurred relatively small? Our basic understanding of the Bible has not changed. Our conviction that we are living in the last days is stronger than ever! -https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1997604

I would like to direct your attention on this paragraph from WT 1997 study edition article. 

On one side you commented how JHVH' and Jesus' instructions are given in different time for different or certain purpose. Can you explain why would be how some "given instruction" in 1st century, be it more appropriate at a certain point of their or our time and some not? I believe how whole set of Jesus' teachings and instructions are good and appropriate for whole and each period of human lifetime. 

But this WT quote give answer why (perhaps you) JW members think differently about this. Because the need to "clarify  own  (watchman class aka GB) views came and coming from the reason they don't teach Jesus' or JHVH' teachings but own human doctrines.  

I guess, we have no need to adjust teachings from Bible, but in WTJWorg example, GB had/have need to adjust own interpretations about own teachings.  

For example, do we need to "adjust" God's teaching (law) about slavery to our time? No, because we don't want slavery today! So, we reject any past law (even if it was divine) that supported slavery. 

We are in position to follow or to not follow teachings and instructions revealed in Bible. 

Quote from WT say: Our basic understanding of the Bible has not changed. Our conviction that we are living in the last days is stronger than ever!

Here we have next thing. Author of article made self conviction how their (and all JW's) "basic understanding" (aka core understanding  /core=basic, central, key, fundamental, elemental, principal/) about something has not changed. And then continue with one basic or core JW teaching -  about "last days".

This Study article put accent on "basic understanding" that JW members strongly believe: Resurrection, Keep on Watch, Everlasting Life, Eternal Future, End is Close at Hand, Put Your Trust in Watchman aka GB.

Also have in mind that this is from the year 1997, that is 83 years after 1914 (Generation Doctrine).

And 13 years after famous WT study article: 1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away -https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1984361 

WTJWorg basic doctrine, let say, No 1, according to article: End is Close at Hand, that was based on other basic doctrine, let say, No 2: 1914-The Generation That Will Not Pass Away, ........ are both false, because each supported the other. You are aware of fact how 1914 Generation is replaced with Overlapping Generation. 

According to your understanding what is what in this case?! Milk and solid food or "to call a spade a spade" aka false teachings?

 

Have to get to you in a while, my meeting is about to start.

8 hours ago, Witness said:

By teaching that an organization, filled with corruption, in Satan's world will bring JWs salvation, Jesus as the only Way, Truth, and Life, has become less important. (John 14:6; 4:21-24) God's Temple priesthood has become less important. (Matt 16:18) God's Temple has no meaning, but the organization...JWs cannot live without. 

That's just the beginning of your organization's full rejection of Christ's teachings.  By looking to the brainstorm of men, your leaders have paved the way for going beyond the teachings of Christ.  

"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

"Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”  Acts 4:12

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen." Rom 1:25

 

 

 

Ah I see, your emphasis is on Christ alone with Jehovah in the background?

We live by Christ's teachings, that is what it means to be a Christian.

8 hours ago, Witness said:

Firstly, you may want to consider this quote from God’s Kingdom Rules! p. 195-196, and then remember repetitive "begging" for money by your leaders.    

Jehovah’s people do not beg for money. They do not pass collection plates or send out letters of solicitation. Neither do they use bingo, bazaars, or raffles to raise money. They hold to what the Watch Tower long ago said: “We have never considered it proper to solicit money for the Lord’s cause, after the common custom . . . It is our judgment that money raised by the various begging devices in the name of our Lord is offensive, unacceptable to him, and does not bring his blessing either upon the givers or the work accomplished.”* The Watch Tower, August 1, 1899, page 201.

Secondly, and in relationship to this post, many who were told that the food boxes came from “Jehovah”, were also told to think about thanking him by donating to the organization.  These are food boxes generally provided for people with little money.  Why would “donating” even be mentioned?

Thirdly, you can see my full answer here:

 

The book is absolutely right, they do not beg for money.

Maybe some brothers and sisters might come by some kind of windfall and choose to donate, that is their choice and nothing to do with you or me.  I've been a JW for .....years, certainly long enough to know what goes on and I've never been begged for what belongs to Jehovah to begin with.  

What's your story?

Still waiting for your proof concerning riches.

 Thank You 🙂

What makes you think I'm angry with you, not at all.  All Christ's teachings are important.  Throughout scripture Jehovah has given instruction, often more appropriate at a certain point in time than another.  I suspect that the term core teachings, covers the basics and anything else may be what is learnt at a time more appropriate than another.  Milk and solid food for example.

19 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Part 2.

2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”

It would help if you or some other JW member put here a list of Christ's teachings. Start with No. 1 please and take as much numbers you need to show all the teachings of Jesus. You can, if you need, name them as "core teachings", and if you find some Chris't teachings as less important, please put them in second list. 

After that, please make another list of WT past teachings and actual WT teachings. You can also do the same thing, because some JW's claims are, how "core teachings" were and are always the same, despite of "Beliefs Clarified" list by WTJWorg Official web. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174 , and all publications published till today.

It would be nice if you and other JW members delete that "dust" you speaking about.

After such task done, we all here will be able to compare two entities in 2. John 1:9, aka

Jesus Scale with/vs WTJWorg Scale 

 

 

Why would we find some of Christ's teachings "less important", that is the sort of thinking that paves the way for going beyond it.

1 hour ago, Witness said:

2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”

I like this scripture, because it concentrates on Christ’s teachings, not the doctrines of men.  There is a lot said about doctrine that deviates from the teachings of Christ.  His teachings are sound doctrine, which the apostles stressed for us to adhere to.

“Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause dissensions and obstacles contrary to the doctrine you have learned. Avoid them, ¹⁸ for such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites. They deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting with smooth talk and flattering words.” Rom 16:17,18

“If anyone teaches other doctrine and does not agree with the sound teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching that promotes godliness, he is conceited, understanding nothing, but has a sick interest in disputes and arguments over words. From these come envy, quarreling, slander, evil suspicions, ⁵ and constant disagreement among people whose minds are depraved and deprived of the truth, who imagine that godliness is a way to material gain.” 1 Tim 6:4,5

“For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear something new.”  2 Tim 4:3

So, every time the organization’s leadership uses Prov 4:18 to cover failed doctrine that had no light to begin with, it cannot be said that Holy Spirit played a part in its development, from teaching's beginning to what it has changed into now.   You have an extensive list of doctrine outside of the teachings of Christ.  The generation teaching is just one of them. The "faithful slave" is another. 

 “Beliefs Clarified” does not show the genius of God, Emma.  It shows the foolishness of men, who choose to remain in darkness.

"But the person without the Spirit does not receive what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually."

 

You have yet to provide some kind of proof for your claim concerning riches.  If you cannot, then you fit your own bill written here.

The "light getting brighter" requires humility that waits on Jehovah to give His servants their food at the allotted time.  It also allows for a refining of His people.  What an absolute genius Jehovah is.  1 Cor 2:14

And multiplying horses...

3 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Poor or rich, inclination of heart can be similar. But when you have money you can afford sooo many things, because, in Solomon case, his riches buy him a plenty of time for his fantasies and pleasures. Imagine working class man/woman try to survive day by day. Yes, he/she can also fall in love out side of marriage or seek pleasure outside moral standards  boundaries of society. But also, in Solomon case, they are "allowed" to have multiplying wives and concubines and to support kings/nobles with am-haaretz work. That was "system error" (organizational error) :)) not just Solomon's error. 

"Solomon's error"...

The dust on the scales should not push ahead 2 John 1:9