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On 2/28/2016 at 01:34, The Librarian said:

How can we be sure that the Greek Scriptures ALSO apply to the Other Sheep and not just the Anointed ones?

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This is too general a question  as obviously the Greek Scriptures contain a lot of material with application in a number of areas.It's like asking "How can we be sure the Hebrew Scriptures apply to Christians and not just to the Jews?"

No misunderstanding. You said it was OK in your country. If only hypocrites do it, then it is not OK?

Weird!!

No.

I have no idea of the specific reasons for this practice in your area. Must be a combination of custom and conscience as are so many dress and grooming issues.

If you could use the scriptural references as to why it is OK in your country would be good

No it is not correct, and it doesn't happen where I live.

Good post AnonymousBrother.

I'm just unsure about your meaning here: " As God did not reveal His Name until *after* the Babel episode "

Excellent!  Thanks a lot.

Graphic!

Does Isaiah 34:4 bring anything to the discussion?

You have misunderstood my reference to Leviticus 13 which means you may not have read the paragraph which refers to physical sickness and medical procedures. I am concerned about your comprehension of the rest of my response on that basis.

You  talk about me having a  a problem accepting my repentant brother, punishing him, wanting to trip up my brothers, being suspicious??? I frankly do not understand you or what you are talking about, or how you can make assumptions about what I feel about anything.

If you are not able to discern the answer to your original question from Matt 3:8, then I feel a need to conclude my participation in this discussion.

Goodbye  Γιαννης Διαμαντιδης

 but in the middle of the 1734 page I read: "However, there is no reason to be dogmatic. We simply don't know how God’s ancient servants pronounce this name". So the bible you suggested to me agrees with me not with you  Eoin Joyce.

You don't know what I agree with

In page 1733 the Bible NWT2013 gives us the example of Jesus by saying that we also do not know its original pronunciation

Can't find that statement

In the end of the page 1734 we read :only in "1530 William Tyndale’s translation of the Pentateuch used the form Iehouah" I don't know the reasoning here really. So if William Tyndale used that Name that It must be ??? NO proof again. 

You missed the point made in that paragraph completely

Unfortunately, 3 strikes and out ...........

Goodbye  Γιαννης Διαμαντιδης 

Is it Christian NOT to accept someone who comes to the congregation and asks for forgiveness ?  Asking for forgiveness is not the only criteria as John the Baptist made clear at Matt 3:8.

"Thank you Eoin, But I am sure you have an opinion of your own" you said. Well here is my opinion:

If a person is sick, they need medical attention. If their sickness is contagious, additional precaution must be taken to avoid infecting others and this may include isolation until the sickness is no longer contagious. Sadly, some do not recover despite the best medical attention.

In the case of patients who respond to medical attention, those with the appropriate training and experience will manage the recovery of afflicted ones and their rehabilitation to the community. Although the process may be lengthy and procedures unpleasant, a successful outcome will outweigh temporary difficulties. Interestingly, although the  process has become sophisticated in modern times, something similar is well outlined in Leviticus 13. 

Spiritual sickness needs spiritual attention. In the case of unrepentance over serious sin, this is a symptom of serious spiritual sickness. This spiritual sickness needs the additional precaution of isolation from others to avoid infecting them, hence the disfellowshipping arrangement. Although a severe measure, this has the aim of restoration to spiritual health. James 5:14 applies in principal to the recovery process, with the latter part of Jude 23 indicating the need for caution in handling such matters. Managing the spiritual recovery and rehabilitation of spiritually sick ones is the responsibility of those with "spiritual qualifications" (Gal 6:1) and is best left to them. Sadly, some do not recover despite the best spiritual attention (Ph 3:18).

However, for those who are restored to spiritual health and are reinstated, then Ecc 7:8 applies to their experience, or for more detail, Heb 12:11.

I am sure you will understand in the case of physical sickness as described above, well intentioned, but inappropriate, contact and action on the part of untrained friends and relatives outside of the medical parameters would only serve to put the afflicted one and themselves at risk. However, once recovery has been confirmed, then there is no limitation. No less so in a spiritual context.

Do you have access to the New World Translation 2013? Appendices A4 and A5, page 1731 to 1743 provides a reasonable answer to this question.

Do you have access to the New World Translation 2013? Appendices A4 and A5, page 1731 to 1743.

You have used James 5:14 to answer your own question

The reason for the wait is what needs to be scriptural. And this a matter between your friend and the body of elders. If you are a baptized Jehovah's Witness, you should not be a party to those discussions. But it looks as if you can both look forward to your friend's reinstatement. Ecc.7:8.

Clever quip

Still don't believe Coco Rocha is the girl on the cart.

1Tim 6:10; Jude 12-13

What do you know?

First one

Thanks for clarification. Important to note that these are single instance reports. 

That's not Coco Rocha on the cart!

Hatred of English? I haven't come across that one yet amongst Jehovah's Witnesses currently, although I know there have been cranky views held in the past.

I'm pretty glad to be speaking English actually. It's a bit like speaking koine Greek in the 1stC, or Hebrew earlier on. We get a privileged access to spiritual food, speaking the base language of the time.

I have heard comments to the effect that Hebrew is the perfect language because it was the original language, but I keep an open mind on that, not just because I don't speak Hebrew. It was Jehovah who produced the proliferation of language wasn't it?