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Jehovah's Witnesses believe salvation is a free gift from God attained by being part of "God's organization" and putting faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice. They do not believe in predestination or eternal security. They believe in different forms of resurrection for two groups of Christians. One group, the anointed, go to heaven while the other group, "the other sheep" or "the great crowd" will live forever on earth. 

Basis

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that salvation is possible only through Christ’s ransom sacrifice[1] and that individuals cannot be saved until they repent of their sins and call on the name of Jehovah.[2] Salvation is described as a free gift from God, but is said to be unattainable without good works that are prompted by faith. The works prove faith is genuine.[3][4] Preaching is said to be one of the works necessary for salvation, both of themselves and those to whom they preach.[5] They believe that people can be "saved" by identifying God's organization and serving God as a part of it.[6]
The Witnesses reject the doctrine of universal salvation,[7] as well as that of predestination or fate. They believe that all intelligent creatures are endowed with free will. They regard salvation to be a result of a person's own decisions, not of fate.[8] They also reject the concept of "once saved, always saved" (or "eternal security"), instead believing that one must remain faithful until the end to be saved.[9]
Regarding whether non-Witnesses will be "saved", they believe that Jesus has the responsibility of judging such ones, and that no human can judge for themselves who will be saved. Based on their interpretation of Acts 24:15, they believe there will be a resurrection of righteous and unrighteous people. They believe that non-Witnesses alive now may attain salvation if they "begin to serve God".[10][11] 

 

The 'anointed'

Based on their understanding of scriptures such as Revelation 14:1-4, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that exactly 144,000 faithful Christians go to heaven to rule with Christ in the kingdom of God. They, with Jesus, will also perform priestly duties that will bring faithful mankind to perfect health and 'everlasting life'.[12]They believe that most of those are already in heaven, and that the "remnant" at Revelation 12:17 (KJV) refers to those remaining alive on earth who will be immediately resurrected to heaven when they die. The Witnesses understand Jesus’ words at John 3:3—"except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God"—to apply to the 144,000 who are "born again" as "anointed" sons of God in heaven.[13] They teach that the New Testament, which they refer to as the Christian Greek Scriptures, is primarily directed to the 144,000, and by extension, to those associated with them.[14] They believe that the terms "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), "little flock" (Luke 12:32), "New Jerusalem," and "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:2,9) in the New Testament also refer to the same group of "anointed" Christians.[15][16][17]
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that being 'anointed' involves a personal revelation by God's spirit which "gives positive assurance of adoption" to the individual alone.[18] Members who claim to be anointed are not given special treatment by other congregation members.[19] However, only those in the anointed class partake of the unleavened bread and wine at the yearly commemoration of Christ's death, or Memorial.

Were all the anointed resurrected to heavenly life in 1918?

Jesus Christ is their mediator

"CONGREGATION OF GOD" Also called:
144,000
Anointed
Body of Christ
Bride of Christ
Chosen Ones
Elect
Holy Nation
Israel of God
Kingdom Class
Members of the Household of God
Little Flock
New Creation
New Nation
Royal House
Royal Priesthood
Sanctuary Class
Sons of Levi
Spirit Begotten
Spiritual Israel
Spiritual Sons
Rebekah Class
Elisha Class
Elijah Class 
New Jerusalem
Little Flock 
Lamb's Wife 

The 'other sheep' and the 'great crowd'

Watch Tower Society literature states that Jesus' use of the term "other sheep" at John 10:16 was intended to indicate that the majority of his followers were not part of the 144,000 and would have an earthly, rather than heavenly, hope.[20][21] In the resurrection, those who died faithful to God are included in the 'other sheep' and will receive the "resurrection of the righteous" ("just" KJV) mentioned in Acts 24:15.[22] Those who died without faithfully serving God will receive the "resurrection of the ... unrighteous" ("unjust" KJV). They will be given an opportunity to gain God's favor and join Jesus' 'other sheep' and live forever in an earthly paradise.[23][24] Individuals unfavorably judged by God are not resurrected, and are said to be in Gehenna, which they consider to be a metaphor for eternal destruction.[25] Those of the 'other sheep' who are alive today, some of whom survive through Armageddon without needing a resurrection, are referred to as the 'great crowd'.[26][27]
Jesus is not the mediator for the other sheep.

Remnant

The word ‘remnant’ is used to indicate the living members of the 144,000.
List of title variants given to the living ‘anointed ones’ in the book: Revelation. Its Grand Climax At Hand! (1988)
Anointed Christians.
God’s zealous slaves on earth.
Remnant of the 144,000 integrity keepers.
Those of the little flock that have been begotten by God’s spirit. His congregation of anointed ones.
Anointed remnant.
Anointed conquerors.
Genuine anointed Christians.
Anointed brothers.
Anointed over-comers.
Remnant of the completed bride of 144,000.
Remnant of the 24 elders enthroned and crowned like kings.
God’s anointed people.
Remnant of the 144,000 under-priests.
Remaining ones of the son’s of spiritual Israel.
Remnant of a kingdom of priests - to rule as kings over the earth.
Chosen anointed ones.
World-wide congregation of anointed Christians that in time would number 144,000. The remaining ones of the 144,000.
The anointed heirs to the heavenly kingdom.
Remnant of the sealed 144,000 still remaining in the flesh.
The kingdom class.
The holy ones on earth.
Remnant on earth of the 144,000 anointed ones.
The remaining holy ones.
The anointed witnesses on earth.
Remnant of the woman’s seed.
Remnant of the anointed ones.
The remaining ones of the woman’s seed.
The remaining ones of the seed of God’s woman.
The remaining ones of the 144,000 anointed ones.
The remaining ones of the 144,000 fellow heirs of the heavenly kingdom.
The loyal ones.
The remaining ones of the chosen heirs of God’s kingdom.
A new creation, serving God with heavenly life in view.
Those from the 144,000 who live on earth during the last days.
Congregation of anointed Christians on earth.
Jesus’ brothers, the remaining ones of the woman’s seed.
Anointed followers still on earth.
Remnant of the 144,000 of spiritual Israel.
Remnant of the 144,000 of the bride class.
Remaining ones on earth of the 144,000.
Anointed ones who survive on earth.
Anointed ones of the heavenly bride.
Remnant of the anointed bridal company.
Remnant of the 144,000 followers here on earth.
Remnant of the 144,000 royal brides.
Anointed remnant of the 144,000.
Anointed remnant of the spiritually adopted sons of God.
Remnant of Jesus’ 144,000 under-priests.
Remnant of the 144,000 members of the Lamb’s wife.
Remnant of the anointed Christians still alive on earth today.
Anointed fellow slaves.
Anointed bride class.

See also:
How Does One Know if They Are of the Anointed Or Called to Heavenly Life?
How is it that Anointed Christians judge angels?
"Appointed" = "Anointed"?
If Disfellowshipped and then reinstated, are they still "Anointed" by Jehovah?
Are the Kings and prophets of old have the same heavenly hope as the anointed of today? They were anointed by Jehovah directly.
Did the first million or so professed "Anointed Christians" really just end up in Gehenna?

Albert Schroeder's 1968 talk regarding the Spiritual Temple and the Anointed

Is it true that some of the 144 000 are already in heaven?

References

  1. The Watchtower 6/1/00 p. 11 par. 6 Keep Your “Hope of Salvation” Bright!
  2. The Watchtower, March 15, 1989, p. 31 Call on Jehovah’s Name and Get Away Safe! “The Way of Salvation”
  3. "James Urges Clean and Active Worship,", The Watchtower 3/1/83 p. 13, "Faith that does not prompt us to do good works is not genuine and will not result in our salvation."
  4. "Meetings to Help Us Make Disciples", Our Kingdom Ministry, January 1979, p. 2.
  5. The Watchtower, May 15, 2006 pp. 28-29 par. 12
  6. The Watchtower 2/15/83 p. 12 You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth—But How?
  7. The Watchtower 4/15/60 p. 229 Does the Bible Teach What You Believe?
  8. Awake! 5/07 p. 13 Is Your Life Predestined?
  9. You Can Endure to the End The Watchtower October 1, 1999, p. 17.
  10. Do You Feel That You Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved?.
  11. "Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe That They Are the Only Ones Who Will Be Saved?". The Watchtower: 28. 1 November 2008.
  12. Revelation—Its Grand Climax at Hand! chap. 29 p. 200 par. 8 "Singing the Triumphal New Song "
  13. The Watchtower 11/1/96 p. 10 Look to Jehovah for Comfort: “One of the main operations of God’s spirit upon first-century Christians was to anoint them as adopted spiritual sons of God and brothers of Jesus. (2 Corinthians 1:21, 22) This is reserved for only 144,000 disciples of Christ. (Revelation 14:1, 3)”
  14. Worldwide Security Under the “Prince of Peace” chap. 13 p. 110 par. 10 The “Prince of Peace” Turns to Those Outside the New Covenant
  15. Survivors Out of All the Nations, ©1984 Watch Tower, page 65
  16. "Congregation of God", Watchtower Publications Index 1930–1985, "CONGREGATION OF GOD (Also called 144,000; Anointed; Body of Christ; Bride of Christ; Chosen Ones; Elect; Holy Nation; Israel of God; Kingdom Class; Little Flock; New Creation; New Nation; Royal House; Royal Priesthood; Sanctuary Class; Sons of Levi; Spirit Begotten; Spiritual Israel; Spiritual Sons)"
  17. Chryssides, George D (2008). Historical Dictionary Of Jehovah's Witnesses. Scarecrow Press. pp. 3, 122,. ISBN 9780810860742.
  18. “United In Worship Of The Only True God” chap. 14 pp. 112-113 ‘I Make a Covenant With You for a Kingdom’: “Spiritual Sons—How Do They Know? ... God’s spirit gives positive assurance of adoption as spiritual sons to baptized Christians who have received the heavenly calling.
  19. The Watchtower 5/1/07 p. 31: “They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment or claim that their partaking of the emblems places them above the appointed elders in the congregation”
  20. The Watchtower 2/1/98 p. 20 par. 7 The Other Sheep and the New Covenant
  21. "Awake" 1/8/95 p. 27 Who Go to Heaven?
  22. The Watchtower 2/15/95 p. 11 par. 12 'There Will Be a Resurrection of the Righteous: “Men and women of old who exercised strong faith in Jehovah and his promises and remained faithful to the death were declared righteous by Jehovah on the basis of their faith, and they will without doubt share in the ‘resurrection of the righteous.’
  23. The Watchtower 6/15/06 p. 6 A Sure Guide to Happiness: “Acts 24:15 ... “There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” So even “the unrighteous,” many individuals who did not know and serve Jehovah, will get a future opportunity to gain God’s favor.”
  24. You Can Believe in a Paradise Earth The Watchtower November 15, 2003, p. 4.
  25. The Watchtower 3/15/06 p. 6 The Only Remedy!: “Some committed sins for which there is no forgiveness. They are not in Hades (mankind’s common grave) but in Gehenna, a symbolic place of eternal destruction. (Matthew 23:33)
  26. The Watchtower 4/15/95 p. 31 Questions From Readers: “In summary, we might remember “other sheep” as the broader term, encompassing all of God’s servants having the hope of living forever on earth. It includes the more limited category of sheeplike ones today who are being gathered as a “great crowd” with the hope of living right through the impending great tribulation”.
  27. Ankerberg, John (2003). Fast Facts on Jehovah's Witnesses. Harvest House Publisher. pp. 51–53. ISBN 9780736910811.

 

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WOW.... Danke  for  your  always  SO  detailed  and  exact  explanations  about  Bible-words,  themes,  or  special  questions  to  that !  Its  like  a  treasure  &  a  big  help  for  me. THANK  YOU  ;-)

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There are some weaknesses with the 'two destinies' idea, however.

If all true Christians in the 1st century were 'anointed,' what changed?

Regarding the weaknesses that center on Rev. 7 ...

1. Rev. 7's numbers 12 x 12,000 are understood to be symbolic, but it is insisted that the total number 144,000 is literal. This is inconsistent.

2. When Rev. 7 is read more closely, the 144k group are on earth; otherwise, why are the four angels told to hold back the destructive winds until the 144k are sealed? Cp. Rev. 9:4.

3. When Rev. 7 is read more closely, the envisioned 'great crowd' is seen in the same heavenly location as the four living creatures, angels and 24 elders. On what contextual basis can we argue that the 'great crowd' is in a different location to the four living creatures, angels and 24 elders?

One viable interpretation is that the 144,000 and 'great crowd' is the same group seen from a different perspective. John hears a schematic number (7:4) but sees the reality (7:9). Cp. Rev 5:5, 6 (John hears a description of Jesus but sees Jesus' appearance).

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Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope. They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior. They would also never suggest to others that these too have been anointed and should start partaking;  

 

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In no way, then, would they use their anointing as a “calling card” to introduce themselves to others. For the most part, they would not even mention this personal experience to others, so as to avoid drawing attention to themselves; neither would they want to boast about their future reward.

 

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 How can we show appropriate respect for those whom Jehovah chooses to anoint? We would not ask them personal questions about their anointing. We should not assume that the parents, spouse, or other relatives of one of the anointed would also be anointed. We should also resist the urge to quiz spouses of anointed ones about how they feel knowing that they will live without their mate in the future earthly Paradise.

 

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The number of partakers includes those who mistakenly think that they are anointed. Some who at one point started to partake of the emblems later stopped. Others may have mental or emotional problems that lead them to believe that they will rule with Christ in heaven.

 

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Jehovah began choosing anointed ones after Jesus’ death and resurrection, and it seems that all in the first-century Christian congregation were anointed.

 

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On 2/27/2016 at 18:46, Ann O'Maly said:

If all true Christians in the 1st century were 'anointed,' what changed?

Where? When? What?

On 2/27/2016 at 18:46, Ann O'Maly said:

1. Rev. 7's numbers 12 x 12,000 are understood to be symbolic, but it is insisted that the total number 144,000 is literal. This is inconsistent.

There are other literal elements of this chapter: God; the Lamb (although this is a symbolic reference).

On 2/27/2016 at 18:46, Ann O'Maly said:

2. When Rev. 7 is read more closely, the 144k group are on earth; otherwise, why are the four angels told to hold back the destructive winds until the 144k are sealed? Cp. Rev. 9:4.

Agreed. They are "bought from the earth" Rev.14:3, so must have originated there.

 

On 2/27/2016 at 18:46, Ann O'Maly said:

3. When Rev. 7 is read more closely, the envisioned 'great crowd' is seen in the same heavenly location as the four living creatures, angels and 24 elders. On what contextual basis can we argue that the 'great crowd' is in a different location to the four living creatures, angels and 24 elders?

Not convinced they have to be in the same location as God. Being before God's throne does not require this literally. Standing before God or Christ can denote having their approval regardless of location (Comp Lu. 21:36; Ps.5:5,7).

Jehovah can stand by his servants without literally coming to the earth. Ps.109:31.

On 2/27/2016 at 18:46, Ann O'Maly said:

On what contextual basis can we argue that the 'great crowd' is in a different location to the four living creatures, angels and 24 elders?

At least on the basis that there are no tears in heaven at the time portrayed in this chapter. Rev 7:17.

 

 

 

 

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"Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope."

No one is superior as all become children of God in God’s Kingdom.  Yet, those chosen as priests and kings to serve in God’s Temple have a specific job to do. True faithful anointed ones are blessed with the outpouring of Holy Spirit to teach truth; if and only if, they remain part of the vine, one with Christ and one in the Body of Christ.  Their sole purpose is to serve God and Christ in righteousness and administer to the people the true fruit of the vine, true knowledge that Holy Spirit gives them.

You shall anoint them, as you anointed their father, that they may minister to Me as priests; for their anointing shall surely be an everlasting priesthood throughout their generations.”  Exod 40:15

But let no one come into the house of the Lord except the priests and those of the Levites who serve. They may go in, for they are holy; but all the people shall keep the watch of the Lord. 2 Chron 23:6

“For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge, And people should seek the law from his mouth; For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.  Mal 2:7

If proven faithful, Chosen ones are blessed with knowledge to impart to the people; again, if they remain in union with their Head, Jesus Christ.

They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.

 Any honor shown is according to the justice of God, given to those who were without honor in man’s eyes, in order that there should be no superiority, imbalance, or division within the Body. 1 Cor 12:24-26; Matt 20:26,27; 1 Cor 4:7; Rom 12:3,6; 1 Pet 4:10; Matt 20:16; 23:12 
If God chooses the most despised to be shown an equalizing amount of mercy, of what concern is that to anyone? 1 Cor 1:26-30; Matt 20:13-15  All anointed are undeserving worthless slaves, who perform their assigned place within the Body of Christ, and not out of superiority. Rom 4:4; Luke 17:10; 1 Cor 4:7; Luke 12:48

There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.  And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:  for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,  to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.  But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills. 1 Cor 12:4-11

But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light 1 Pet 2:9

These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1 Cor 2:13

But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.  1 John 2:20

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.  John 14:26

 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God,  while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men, and by their prayer for you, who long for you because of the exceeding grace of God in you. Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!  2 Cor 9:12-15

“For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge, And people should seek the law from his mouth; For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.”  Mal 2:7

It is a requirement that all anointed minister to the people in the knowledge they receive from the outpouring of their anointing.  If they remain anonymous, ambiguous, concealed, mysterious, unknown; their true calling to serve God and Christ goes unheeded.

"In no way, then, would they use their anointing as a “calling card” to introduce themselves to others. For the most part, they would not even mention this personal experience to others, so as to avoid drawing attention to themselves; neither would they want to boast about their future reward."

Of course not.  Anyone with humility would not boast in such a way. And yet, these Chosen ones are not only Temple priests, but ARE symbolically, the spiritual Temple:

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?  For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Cor 6:19,20

 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,  in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.  Eph 2:19,22

 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.  Matt 10:40

 How can one receive such anointed ones if they are to remain silent?  As Mal 2:7 brings out, the people must seek knowledge from the lips of such faithful ones.  

 And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly, I say to you, he shall by no means lose his reward.”  Matt 10:42

 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’  And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”  Matt 25:44-46

 

Jesus’ anointing:

“The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed  Luke 4:18

Faithful anointed ones follow in Christ’s footsteps as one in Christ:

Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God, who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. 2 Cor 1:21,22

Chosen ones also must proclaim liberty to the captives and the oppressed as ambassadors of Christ.

 "Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God"  2 Cor 5:20

This can only be accomplished when the Body is one in Christ.

I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.  John 15:5

 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. John 17:10

Can Jesus be glorified through his faithful anointed ones if they remain undisclosed?

Because of the suggested state of the anointed ones to remain camouflaged among all the people; God’s Temple lies in ruins.  It appears it was not the case when the early apostles began building this Temple in Christ.  They were well known among all believers:

To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours 1 Cor 1:2

We should ask, why is it different today?  Could this be considered a defilement of God’s Temple?

 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?  If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.  1 Cor 3:16,17

We realize that in the end times this Temple MUST be restored.  What are God’s people waiting for?

 “Thus speaks the Lord of hosts, saying: ‘This people says, “The time has not come, the time that the Lord’s house should be built.”’”

Then the word of the Lord came by Haggai the prophet, saying, Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses, and this temple to lie in ruins?” Now therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts: “Consider your ways!

“You have sown much, and bring in little;
You eat, but do not have enough;
You drink, but you are not filled with drink;
You clothe yourselves, but no one is warm;
And he who earns wages,
Earns wages to put into a bag with holes.”  
Haggai 1:2-6

Is it man’s call to decide when the anointed ones come together under their Master, Christ? Is it man’s decision to keep Christ’s brothers silent when it is their duty to glorify their Master and God through teaching truth, that each individual anointed one should know?   It appears to me that the Chosen ones should prayerfully consider their circumstances and listen to Christ’s teachings to come together as a complete Body for the benefit of all.

Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Consider your ways! Go up to the mountains and bring wood and build the temple, that I may take pleasure in it and be glorified,” says the Lord. “You looked for much, but indeed it came to little; and when you brought it home, I blew it away. Why?” says the Lord of hosts. “Because of My house that is in ruins, while every one of you runs to his own house.  Haggai 1:7-9

 ‘Who is left among you who saw this temple in its former glory? And how do you see it now? In comparison with it, is this not in your eyes as nothing?   Haggai 2:3

 

 

 

 

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On 3/30/2016 at 4:57 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

Where? When? What?

Yep, that's my question. What changed? Where, when ... and how ... if the inspired biblical canon closed nearly 2000 years ago?

On 3/30/2016 at 4:57 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

There are other literal elements of this chapter: God; the Lamb (although this is a symbolic reference).

But how does a figurative 12 times a figurative 12,000 equal a literal 144,000?

On 3/30/2016 at 4:57 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

Not convinced they have to be in the same location as God. Being before God's throne does not require this literally. Standing before God or Christ can denote having their approval regardless of location (Comp Lu. 21:36; Ps.5:5,7).

Jehovah can stand by his servants without literally coming to the earth. Ps.109:31.

But contextually, if John was seeing everything in vision unfold from the perspective of heaven - the 'God's eye' view (Rev. 4f.), the 'great crowd' are in the same location as the Lamb, 4 living creatures, 24 elders and angels. To illustrate:  

I'm in bed asleep. I'm dreaming. In my dream I'm standing on a tropical beach. I see the palms swaying in the breeze and feel the warm sun on my face. Hearing excited shrieks, I turn and see my grandchildren ... in reality I don't yet have grandchildren so I sense this is an idealized representation of a desired future ... I see my grandchildren splashing about in the ocean, laughing because some fishes are tickling their legs. Further in the background, I see dolphins frantically racing each other.

Am I really on a tropical beach? No, I'm sleeping in my bed.

In reality, where are my grandchildren? In reality, they don't exist.

But in my dream, where am I? On a tropical beach.

In my dream, where are the fishes and dolphins? In the ocean.

In my dream, where are my grandkids? At New York Aquarium.

Huh? 

No that's incorrect. In my dream my grandkids are in the ocean with the fishes and dolphins.

Applying this to Rev. 7 now:

In vision, where is John? In heaven.

In vision, where are the 24 elders, angels and four living creatures? They are around the throne which is in heaven (Rev. 4:2,4,6; 7:11).

In vision, where is the great crowd? On earth.

Huh?

No that's incorrect. In vision, the great crowd is where the elders, angels and four living creatures are - before the throne and in front of the Lamb who is also in heaven (Rev. 7:9; 5:6).

The point. Within the confines of the vision, there is no warrant to say the 'great crowd' is anywhere else - just like there is no warrant to say my grandchildren are anywhere other than where my dream put them. 

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12 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

Yep, that's my question. What changed? Where, when ... and how ... if the inspired biblical canon closed nearly 2000 years ago?

Just time and place

12 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

But how does a figurative 12 times a figurative 12,000 equal a literal 144,000?

Just does. Not a problem for me as it makes sense. I don't expect everyone else to see it.

12 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

To illustrate:  

I'm in bed asleep.

I like the clarity of your logic and understand what you are saying. But your analogy relies on the statement "I'm in bed asleep". The dream you describe could be experienced anywhere, even on a bench at New York Aquarium!  Dreams can be made up from internal and external cues. I have had dreams incorporating imaginary and real life situations where an incident or event taking place in my environment literally is incorporated in a dream sequence and I could just as easily use that analogy to illustrate my understanding. It remains for me that being before God's throne does not require this literally. e.g. Standing before God or Christ can denote having their approval regardless of location (Comp Lu. 21:36; Ps.5:5,7). Even Jehovah can stand by his servants without literally coming to the earth. Ps.109:31.

 

15 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

I don't follow.

I don't expect you to follow.

But what I understand is that the "great crowd" described at Rev 7:14 as surviving "the great tribulation", do so here on planet earth and their experience of "no tears" is similar to that described at Rev.21:3-4 as occurring amongst  "mankind" who are, very much, creatures of planet earth.  .

I simply have no problem with a the idea of a dual destiny for humans in God's purpose. A limited number leaving the earth to be be re-created as a new life form to rule with Christ in heaven and an unlimited number to live on earth freed from sin and imperfection, enjoying Edenic conditions as originally purposed, for me, fits everything I read in the Bible.

Even before I became aware of Jehovah's Witnesses, my Bible reading told me that heaven was no place for me. And since becoming one, I am even more convinced, as sure about it as the anointed are regarding their future. The idea that a group of humans would respond to the good news during the last days, and that they could survive the end of that period to live on earth makes perfect sense to me and harmonizes with the scriptures as I read them.

And my experience over the years is that, discounting those I meet with no spiritual interest at all, there are two kinds of reactions to this concept regarding a great crowd with an earthly hope. It is either welcomed gladly, or rejected as either impossible or not scriptural. I expect nothing less on this forum.

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On 4/9/2016 at 1:01 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

Just time and place

Explain?

On 4/9/2016 at 1:01 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

Just does. Not a problem for me as it makes sense. I don't expect everyone else to see it.

Oh dear. :/

On 4/9/2016 at 1:01 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

But your analogy relies on the statement "I'm in bed asleep". The dream you describe could be experienced anywhere, even on a bench at New York Aquarium!

Nevertheless, where does my dream place the grandchildren? Not at New York Aquarium. And there are no grandchildren in reality. So whether I have fallen asleep in my bed, at the Aquarium or on top of the Empire State Building, it doesn't alter the fact that my dream puts my dream grandchildren in a dream ocean, just as John's vision puts his visionary 'great crowd' in a visionary heavenly court with the other visionary heavenly characters.

On 4/9/2016 at 1:01 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

But what I understand is that the "great crowd" described at Rev 7:14 as surviving "the great tribulation", do so here on planet earth and their experience of "no tears" is similar to that described at Rev.21:3-4 as occurring amongst  "mankind" who are, very much, creatures of planet earth.  .

Yes, the 'great crowd' has come out of the 'great tribulation' so John sees them as a victorious, POST-tribulation group enjoying eternal peace and heavenly favor.

The 144,000 are from among mankind too (Rev. 14:3, 4), so how does citing Rev. 21 help you with Rev. 7? Don't the 144,000 experience 'no tears' too?

You may have no personal problem with symbolic numbers adding up to literal ones, or a two-tier salvation concept, but it doesn't mean they're harmonious with Bible teaching. 

On 4/9/2016 at 1:01 PM, Eoin Joyce said:

Even before I became aware of Jehovah's Witnesses, my Bible reading told me that heaven was no place for me.

Then I recommend becoming acquainted with more mainstream Christian doctrine which teaches that heaven is only the intermediate state - not the final one. 

Take a look at this, for example: http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1710844,00.html

 

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      The Levitical lineage were people designated to serve God in various roles, separated into three divisions according to the three sons of Levi:  Gershon, Kohath and Merari. Gen 46:11.   Moses, Aaron, Miriam and Korah were all grandchildren of Kohath. 
      To the Kohathites”, stemming from Kohath, God said, “Bring the tribe of Levi and present them to Aaron the priest to assist him.  They are to perform duties for him and for the whole community at the tent of meeting by doing the work of the tabernacle.  They are to take care of all the furnishings of the tent of meeting, fulfilling the obligations of the Israelites by doing the work of the tabernacle.  Give the Levites to Aaron and his sons; they are the Israelites who are to be given wholly to him.  Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death.”  Num 3:5-10
       The Lord also said to Moses, “I have taken the Levites from among the Israelites in place of the first male offspring of every Israelite woman. The Levites are mine, 13 for all the firstborn are mine. When I struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, I set apart for myself every firstborn in Israel, whether human or animal. They are to be mine. I am the Lord.”  Num 3:12,13
      The tribe of Levi was God’s ‘special possession’ (1 Pet 2:9); knowing this, why did Korah rebel against Aaron’s appointment as high priest and Moses as God’s spokesperson? Why would Korah desire a position other than what God had already given him?
      The Watchtower 02/8/1 states under its subheading, “MUST YOU MEN ALSO TRY TO SECURE THE PRIESTHOOD?”:
      “Whatever Korah’s reasoning might have been, it is clear that he began to view the priesthood from a HUMAN STANDPOINT. That led to his rebellion against Moses and Aaron and, ultimately, against Jehovah.”
      He viewed their position as an entitlement with special privileges, power and dominance; yes, from a human standpoint, but Moses reminded him and all the 250 in his company:
       “Hear now, you sons of Levi:  Is it a small thing to you that the God of Israel has separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to Himself, to do the work of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to serve them; 10 and that He has brought you near to Himself, you and all your brethren, the sons of Levi, with you? And are you seeking the priesthood also? 11 Therefore you and all your company are gathered together against the Lord. And what is Aaron that you complain against him?”  Num 16:8-11
      (Exod 28:3; Heb 5:1-4)
      The title of the 02/8/1 Watchtower article is,
      “LOYALLY SUBMIT TO GODLY AUTHORITY”,
      and in this article we find Watchtower’s lies, deceit and REBELLION, upheld by the organization’s leaders.
      Today’s High Priest of his appointed “royal priesthood” is Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Heb 4:14,15  Could it be that the GB has deceitfully stepped in as “High Priest” over God’s anointed ones? 
      “The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the Governing Body, they are in fact following their leader, Christ. Wt 9/15/2010”
      The anointed servants of God are to listen and follow one Master, Jesus Christ; just as the early priesthood under Aaron, followed Aaron’s direction. There is no place, no member in the Body of Christ that is superior over another; except the Head, Jesus Christ. Col 1:18; Eph 5:23,26,27,30-32; 1 Pet 4:10; 1 Cor 12:24-26
      Has the Governing Body compared themselves to Moses?  Indirectly, yes. 
      “Of course, those taking the lead in the earthly part of God’s organization are not perfect—but neither was Moses.”  Watchtower 11/4/15 pp. 3-5
      How self-assuming of an uninspired GB, to even hint at equality with a man who, as scripture says, spoke “face to face” with God.  Only Christ, who sits at his right hand, could be compared to Moses.  Num 12:6-8; Heb 3:1-6
      In the rebellion against Moses and Aaron, Korah’s company, “men of renown”, also included Dathan, Abiram, and On from the tribe of Reuben. Altogether, these men rallied against God’s appointed servants by making the claim,
      “You take too much upon yourselves, for all the congregation is holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord?”  Num 16:3
      This accusation clearly reveals the men’s hearts in ignoring God’s authority, and viewing the positions of Moses and Aaron as man-appointed, and not sanctioned by God.  I find it incredible that although Korah and those with him had literally seen God’s great power in action, they still questioned his guidance through those he personally appointed.  How quickly one’s mind can be clouded over with darkness, the result of self-absorption.
      Jesus, our High Priest, resides over his priesthood in the anointed ones. They are the only ones who can fulfill their spiritual duties in God’s Temple/sanctuary. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 2 Cor 6:16; Rev 1:6  The rituals of preparatory cleansing and sacrifices in Aaron’s time were based on the “heavenly things”; which is reaching its completeness during this time period of today.  Heb 8:5; Col 2:17; Mal 3:2,3 
      Keeping in mind the accusation made by Korah and those with him, examine the Watchtower’s words that show vivid evidence of an elder body “securing the priesthood”:
      “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, WHETHER THEY ARE OF THE ANOINTED OR NOT. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. (Hebrews 13:7, 17) How can that be?”
      Did God appoint a “Gentile” elder body to represent his own priesthood of spiritual “Israel” that reside among them, expecting their obedience also? (Rom 2:28,29; Rev 7:4)  It is not written anywhere in the Bible that substitutes for God’s priesthood could be made, but there are plenty of references where its enactment brought about the wrath of God.  Ezek 28:18; 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Num 3:10, 8:19
      The Watchtower continues:
      “These older men meet the requirements that are set out in God’s Word, which is a product of God’s spirit. (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9) Hence, their appointment CAN BE SAID to be by holy spirit. (Acts 20:28)
      This is an opinion, just as Korah and his men expressed their opinion.
      The Governing Body is using the claim that God’s spirit, which generated the scriptures, is enough evidence to appoint one to stand in as a “priest” in God’s Temple; thereby, it is ASSUMED, SUPPOSED, SEEMINGLY POSSIBLE, TAKEN FOR GRANTED…
      In other words…
      “CAN BE SAID”, that God chose them.
      Men are determining whether men meet the requirements; God has nothing to do with it, since his priesthood was already appointed by him through the anointing they received; yet the organization’s leaders have gone out on a limb by surmising that “the Supreme Judge” (par. 19) appointed the elder body by using scriptures that rightly refer to the anointed ones.   
      HAVE THEY LOYALLY SUBMITTED TO GODLY AUTHORITY? 
      NO. THEY HAVE INSTALLED THEIR OWN OPPRESSIVE AND CONDEMNING AUTHORITARIAN STRUCTURE BASED ON A HUMAN STANDPOINT. 
      How far these men have presumptuously gone, in unrighteous acts against Godly Authority, and who boldly compare themselves to both Moses and Aaron.  They say of the false priesthood/elder body,
      “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!” 
      JWs, Please! DO challenge their false assumptions and twisted reasoning! There is no scriptural basis for this manmade rule or “law”; instead, it is “lawlessness”. 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:5-7,18; 11:1,2  Jesus said we would see the “disgusting thing standing in the holy place”, which is the false priesthood “representing” God’s Temple priests; whose lead, the anointed must follow, according to the Watchtower.   As time exposes it for what it is, “sudden destruction” is not far behind. Luke 17:26-30; 1 Thess 5:3; 2 Thess 2:4,9-12
      Thousands died during Korah’s rebellion, starting with Korah and the households of Dathan, and Abiram.  It then spread by plague killing 14,700 who complained against Moses.   It was a conspiracy never enacted – never put into practice, while today’s opposition against God’s chosen priesthood, is an abomination in the height of its activity – a dark plague of deceit already upon God’s anointed ones and companions.  Matt 24:24,25,48-51; Rev 8:10,11; 9:1-6
      Having faith in Jesus’ prophetic words describing this situation, can urge us to FLEE such an abomination standing defiantly before God; one well cloaked under the guise of divine inspiration.  Matt 24:15,16; Rev 13:15
       
      Pearl Doxsey – 4 womaninthewilderness:
      "First, let's briefly unravel and define the "disgusting thing".
      In history...
      Deut.29:17,18; 1Kings11:4,5,6; Eze.8:10; Jer.44:4 
                             (In the original language, these verses contain "disgusting thing", 
                              although not in all versions of translation...sometimes rendered,
                              "other gods", "detestable images", "abominations".)
      Ezekiel chapter 8 merits a closer scriptural look, so that we can get a fuller meaning...
      Eze.8:5 shows that there is an "image of jealousy" North of the altar gate...blocking entrance to the altar of sacrifice (perfect symbolism).Eze.8:6,9 describes...not a tangible image, but rather, activities being done in God's Temple. So the Image and the activities are two separate abominations.
      Now for verse 11...
      "And there stood before them seventy men of the elders of the house of Israel,..Each man had a censer in his hand, and a thick cloud of incense went up."
      What is the problem here?
      The answer is within the account at Numbers, chapter 16.
      Do you remember what was going on there? It is worth reading the whole chapter to get the point of what Ezekiel was being shown.
      To highlight the point, please read...
      Num.16:3,4,5,6,7,10,11,18,20,21,35,40.

      Can you see that those who perform the tasks which God designates for priests only, must not be performed by "the elders of Israel"? Even the king of Israel had to obey this law, which was punishable by death (1Sam.13:9,10,11,13,14; 2Chron.23:6,7; Num.18:7).
      The abomination Ezekiel describes, is the elders of Israel performing priestly duties within the Temple (offering incense)...the same offense as the rebellion against Aaron, who was chosen by God as priest. To have counterfeit priests in God's Temple is a gross offense against Him. It is an abomination for unsanctified Gentiles to offer incense for the forgiveness of the people's sins (Num.16:47).
      How is this occurring today?

      The NWT of Gal.6:1 reads:
      "Brethren, if a man commits a sin, you who have spiritual qualifications should try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness".
      "have spiritual qualifications"...
      How does the WT apply this phrase? Is it not to the non-anointed/non-priest Elders?
      This is due to 1Tim.3:1-13. Should these two scriptures really be linked as referring to the same group?
      Let's take a closer look at these modern day "incense" burners and this scriptural interpretation.
      If you look at what Gal.6:1 actually reads (it helps to check the original Greek),

      it says in essence... "Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who walk/live by spirit/ who are spirit ones... should restore him gently."
      This "walking/living by/being spirit", is not one of the "qualifications" for elders.
      It is not in the list of qualifications for elders, at 1Tim.. chapter 3.
      That is because Gal.6:1 is not referring to elders.
      It is referring to those who "walk/live by/are, spirit". THESE are the ones given authority to do the "readjusting".
      The Bible defines who it is, that "walks/lives by spirit"...
      Gal.5:25,24 reads:
      "Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."
      Compare this to Gal. 3:29:
      "If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
      See Romans8:14,16,17...
      "because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory."

      Clearly, it is the chosen priests who are to "re-adjust" sinners in a spirit of gentleness. This is their job as symbolic incense burners within God's Temple of anointed (1Cor.3:16).

      So we see that the symbolic prophecies in Ezekiel regarding the "elders of Israel" burning incense within the temple, is certainly considered by God as an abomination, as well as the rebellion of the governing priests who dare to place them there (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 2Chron.13:9).

      This offense is alive and well today, as the GB of the WT has arranged for non-anointed elders to usurp God's chosen priests, perform their exclusive duties, and throw out any of them that protest this abominable disrespect toward God and His Holy Temple. (Heb.12:22,23,24,25,21,28,29)"
       
       
    • By Witness
      All their immediate needs are met; everything and every form of service is provided for their benefit and is at their fingertips.  Their living circumstances may be even more comfortable than we may assume.  They have the luxury of dressing and eating well, traveling and seeing the world, and personally escorted wherever needed.
      But, they lack one thing.  “Wisdom from above”.  Dan.12:3,9,10; Rev.11:3; 1:1; Isa.5:13; 65:13; Luke16:24,25,26; Matt.25:8,9  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan.12%3A3%2C9%2C10%3B+Rev.11%3A3%3B+1%3A1%3B+Isa.5%3A13%3B+65%3A13%3B+Luke16%3A24%2C25%2C26%3B+Matt.25%3A8%2C9&version=NKJV
      “Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by GOOD CONDUCT THAT HIS …
      ~~~~~WORKS~~~~~
       …ARE DONE IN THE MEEKNESS OF WISDOM.”  James 3:13
      “The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.“  WT 17/2 pp. 23-28   (Matt 7:15-20) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+7%3A15-20&version=NKJV
      “But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, DO NOT BOAST AND LIE AGAINST THE TRUTH.” James 3:14
      Gerrit Losch, governing body member, speaks on JW Broadcast, March 2018: 
      “So whom do you trust?  You fully trust in Jehovah, Jesus, and the “faithful slave”. 
      “This is not to say that the slave is perfect and never makes mistakes, but Jehovah and Jesus trust the imperfect slave who cares for things to the best of his ability AND WITH THE BEST OF MOTIVES.  Shouldn’t we then trust the imperfect slave as well?”
      “To appreciate the extent of Jehovah’s and Jesus’ trust in the faithful slave reflect on what he has promised its members. He has promised them immortality and incorruption. Soon, JUST BEFORE ARMAGEDDON the remaining members of the slave will be taken to heaven.” **
       “Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ COMPLETELY trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?”
       “This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.  For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.“  James 3:15,16
      “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be…
      ~~~~~ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS”~~~~~  2 Cor 11:13-15
      King Solomon asked for one thing from God when becoming King.
      And Solomon said to God: “You have shown great and faithful love to my father David, and you have made me king in his place. 9 Lord God, let your promise to my father David now come true. For you have made me king over a people as numerous as the dust of the earth. 10 Now grant me wisdom and knowledge so that I may lead these people, for who can judge this great people of yours?”
      God said to Solomon, “Since this was in your heart, and you have NOT requested riches, wealth, or glory, or for the life of those who hate you, and you have NOT even requested long life, but you have requested for yourself wisdom and knowledge that you may judge my people over whom I have made you king,  wisdom and knowledge are given to you. I will also give you riches, wealth, and glory, unlike what was given to the kings who were before you, or will be given to those after you.”  2 Chron 1:8-12
      The granting of wisdom from God preceded Solomon acquiring great riches.  JWs, remind yourself of what “works” are happening in the organization.
       An extensive history of false prophesy and replaced doctrine (“Beliefs Clarified”), Deut 18:19-22; Jer 23:16; 2 Pet 2:1-3  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut+18%3A19-22%3B+Jer+23%3A16%3B+2+Pet+2%3A1-3&version=NKJV
      Lawsuits over pedophilia are numerous.  Jer 6:13,14; Ezek 34:2-4; Acts 20:29; Prov 17:15  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+6%3A13%2C14%3B+Ezek+34%3A2-4%3B+Acts+20%3A29%3B+Prov+17%3A15&version=NKJV
      JWs are recently banned in Russia and all material assets have been confiscated.   Deut 12:28; 2 Chron 16:7-9; 2 Chron 7:13,14; Isa 48:18; Heb 3:7-13  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=.+++Deut+12%3A28%3B+2+Chron+16%3A7-9%3B+2+Chron+7%3A13%2C14%3B+Isa+48%3A18%3B+Heb+3%3A7-13&version=NKJV
       Disfellowshipping anointed and all for turning to Christ and rejecting the “mark of the Beast”/organization, its lies and idolatry.  Mark 8:31; John 15:20; Matt 5:10,11; John 16:2; Rev 13:15-17; Eph 5:11    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=.++Mark+8%3A31%3B+John+15%3A20%3B+Matt+5%3A10%2C11%3B+John+16%3A2%3B+Rev+13%3A15-17%3B+Eph+5%3A11++++&version=NKJV
      As well as the “trampling” of the Temple anointed priesthood of God by the “man of lawlessness”/elder body. Matt 24:15; Luke 21:24; Dan 11:31,32,36; Rev 11:2  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A15%3B+Luke+21%3A24%3B+Dan+11%3A31%2C32%2C36%3B+Rev+11%3A2&version=NKJV
      None of this would exist if wisdom and knowledge from God was present in the hearts of its leaders. Isa 29:11; Matt 25:4,11,12; James 1:5; Matt 7:7,8; 1 John 2:27; Heb 8:10  Unsettling turmoil reigns within and outside of its boundaries; and Gerrit Losch is making a desperate, hypocritical attempt at covering the governing body’s earlier admittance of lacking ‘inspiration’ from God’s spirit. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+29%3A11%3B+Matt+25%3A4%2C11%2C12%3B+James+1%3A5%3B+Matt+7%3A7%2C8%3B+1+John+2%3A27%3B+Heb+8%3A10++&version=NKJV
      “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.”  James 3:17
      Who really, has provided the full spectrum of the governing body’s earthly needs?  It isn’t the Father, or Christ.  Satan never promised heavenly wisdom to those who bow down to him, but only the “kingdoms of the world”; which the governing body has been given, with power and authority over God’s Chosen ones, and YOU, JWs!  Matt 4:8,9; Luke 4:5-7; Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:1,7,8,11,14-17; 2 Thess 2:9-12 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+4%3A8%2C9%3B+Luke+4%3A5-7%3B+Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C7%2C8%2C11%2C14-17%3B+2+Thess+2%3A9-12++&version=NKJV
       Since they have already forfeited their inheritance for all that Satan’s realm provides them, the wisdom from God will never be obtained.  Luke 4:8; James 4:7; 13:2; 16:13,14; Heb 12:14-17; Rev 8:10,11; Amos 8:11; Rev 18:8  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4%3A8%3B+James+4%3A7%3B+13%3A2%3B+16%3A13%2C14%3B+Heb+12%3A14-17%3B+Rev+8%3A10%2C11%3B+Amos+8%3A11%3B+Rev+18%3A8&version=NKJV
      ARMAGEDDON IS HERE – the spiritual battle of truth against lies fought in the valley of “decision”. Joel 3:14   Notice too, the governing body who is so sure of their heavenly destination, is still on the earth.  Instead of ascending into heaven, this composite Harlot will suffer a shocking blow when the organization brings “her” down.  Rev 17:12-18  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel+3%3A14%3B+Rev+17%3A12-18&version=NKJV
      (“ARMAGEDDON” 4womaninthewilderness)
      From Pearl Doxsey’s, “Eighth King / Punishment of the Great Harlot”:
      “Many that leave the Org. today, do not do so out of a love of truth. Most reasons are selfish ones.
      But we should take note that Rev.18:4 tells us to get out of the covenant of death ("Babylon the Great") and her present harlot daughter, IF WE DO NOT WANT TO SHARE IN HER SINS AND RECEIVE PART OF HER PLAGUES.
      Getting out of her would no longer be possible, if she is already gone.
          It should also be noted, that God is telling His own people to get out ("my people" Rev.18:4). 
          He is addressing His own priests (1Pet.2:10,9; Eze.37:23,27; 2Cor.6:16; Rev.21:3)
          This is a conundrum for the WT. They teach that "Babylon the Great" is "Christendom".
          Yet they also teach that there are no anointed in "Christendom". So how is it that
          the anointed would be commanded to come out of "Christendom"? 
          No...God's chosen priests are being commanded to come out of what was God's City,
          which has now turned their back on God, under the wicked steward's leadership.”
      **Side note:  The rest of the anointed are now, not considered part of the “faithful and discreet slave” as a result of “new light”.   Their “heavenly reward” apparently is not a done deal, as is the "slave's".
      “Do the other sheep need to know the names of all anointed ones still on earth today? No. Why not? Because it is not possible for anyone to know for sure that these ones will get their reward.”  Wt 16/1 pp. 20-26
      Since this sifting has occurred and only 8 men are considered the “slave”, prophesy of the “wicked slave” has been fulfilled.  This quote from the Wt. alone and Losch’s cocksure words above, shows the demeaning, psychological beating down of its “fellow slaves”.  Matt 24:48-51 (Matt 25:14-30)
      “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master has put in charge of his household, to give them food at the proper time?” ….rejected and failed doctrine and publications is not “food at the proper time”, or “meat in due season”.  John 6:27; Matt 7:19,20
      “Blessed is that servant whom the master finds doing his job when he comes. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delayed,’ …how many failed Armageddon dates and “this generation” teachings are there? 
       “and starts to beat his fellow servants, and eats and drinks with drunkards,”….who parrots the words of the GB but the elder body given power over the "holy ones" and drunk on the Harlot’s wine?  Whatever decree the GB orders, the elder body carries out, against Christ’s “kings of the earth”.  Rev 17:1-6; 13:1,5-7,11,12-17
      50 that servant’s master will come on a day he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
      I implore you, JWs, wake up!
       
       
    • By Witness
      Who are Yhwh's Witnesses? A familiar scripture tells us. These are the very same verses which "Jehovah's Witnesses" use to justify taking that label. Please re-examine those verses now, in the hope that as was the case with me, your misconception can be guided into accurate knowledge by means of the Bible.

      Isa.43:10,11,12,21:
      10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
          “and my servant whom I have chosen,
      so that you may know and believe me
      and understand that I am he.
      Before me no god was formed,
          nor will there be one after me.
      11 I, even I, am the Lord,
          and apart from me there is no savior.
      12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed—
          I, and not some foreign god among you.
      You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “that I am God.
      21 the people I formed for myself
      that they may proclaim my praise.
      22 “Yet you have not called on me, Jacob,
          you have not wearied yourselves for me, Israel.
      28 So I disgraced the dignitaries of your temple;
          I consigned Jacob to destruction
          and Israel to scorn."

      I have emphasized some of the points Yhwh's words make, because of their relevance to the misconception mentioned earlier.
      The Witnesses referred to in this scripture, received that position, not from men, but from God.
      Isa.43:10 clearly states, that Yhwh's genuine witnesses, are those "chosen" by Him (Rom.9:16,18,23-24,21; 2Chron.16:9;Eph.1:14; 2Cor.5:5). These can not be those chosen and designated by mere men (Rom.2:29; Col.2:11; 2Cor.10:18; 4:7;John15:16,19). This misconception occurred based upon the assumption that Yhwh had already judged and appointed the "faithful and discreet slave" over all his belongings (in 1919 -though this doctrine was recently abolished); and that God installed not only those 144,000 anointed slaves over Christ's total inheritance (Matt.28:18; Rev.1:18; 1Cor.15:24; Dan.2:44;7:27) (2Thess.2:1,2,3,4), but also all in association with them, as His "witnesses".
      This is not at all what these verses in Isa.43 say, nor what any of the end-time prophecies, indicate.
      The symbolic last two prophets are called Yhwh's "witnesses" (Rev.11:3).
      According to prophecy, every one of them are "killed" (Rev.20:4; 6:11).

      The Bible makes clear who God's "chosen" ones are [Col.3:12; Luke1:78 (2Pet.1:19); Luke18:7; 1Pet.2:9,10; Deut.7:6).

      It also makes clear what their assignment is (Isa.43:21; 1Pet.2:9). The assignment of the Priesthood is not to be rendered in the "Temple" by any other (Num.18:7; 2Chron.23:6; Heb.5:4; Eze.44:16). Only those chosen to be priests may render "acceptable service" (1Pet.2:5; Rev.5:9,10; Rom.15:16; Heb.13:15; Rev.1:6) in the Temple arrangement (1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5;Eph.2:20,21,22).
      Any other arrangement is considered an abomination by God (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 9:4; Joel3:17), a "disgusting thing standing in the holy place" (Matt.24:15), "standing where it ought not" to be (Mark13:14)...."trampling" the priesthood of "holy ones"2Chron.13:9; Lam.1:10; Rev.11:1,2; 2Thess.2:4; Rev.13:6,7; Dan.8:13; 1Chron.13:9,10; Matt.5:13).

      The next point made at Isa.43:10, is that these ones whom God chooses, are given by God Himself....divine knowledge, understanding, and faith in and of the True God (1John2:20,27,28; 2Cor.5:5; 1Thess.4:8). These ones are then said to realize, that besides this True God, there is NO other identity to be served or worshipped (Matt.4:10).
      Isa.43:11 adds the trait, that these chosen ones understand, that besides Yhwh and His expressed arrangement, there is no other means nor path of salvation (Eph.1:8,9,10,11,12; Isa.2:3; Rev.7:10).
      Isa.43:12, Yhwh emphasized once again, that he himself is the only source of revelation, light, and divine proclamation among these chosen ones (Matt.23:10; Gal.1:11,12; 2Cor.11:3; 1Tim.4:1). God's spirit is the source of knowledge to those chosen by Him (James1:5; Prov.2:5,6; Ec.2:26; 2Cor.1:21,22)....not an organization which falsely claims spirit direction (Ps.118:8;Jer.17:5; 23:21; (1Thess.5:2,3)-- Jer.14:13,14,15; Eze.14:21; Rev.6:8). 

      God spirit directs and dwells within His Temple priesthood (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:22; 1Pet.2:5,9); Not with spiritual Gentiles who hijack this position, due to the lying spirit from a false prophet (Rev.13:15,7,8; 11:2;16:13,15; 2Thess.2:4; Matt.24:4,5,11,24,25).
       
      Yhwh also finds it necessary to clarify and repeat, that there is no other object of worship and service among God's witnesses (Matt.4:10; Gal.2:4; 2Cor.11:20,3; Rev.13:10,7; Dan.8:13,12; Isa.63:18; Jer.12:10; Dan.12:6,7; Rev.6:10,11). 
      At Isa.43:12, God concludes by saying that these personal students of His, must teach what they know (1Pet.2:9; Mal.2:7;Matt.5:14,16; 10:20) ....specifically, that only Yhwh is the God deserving service, fear, and worship (Rev.4:11; 1:6; 14:7;19:1; Matt.22:37; Deut.13:4; Eze.2:3,4,5,6,7; Luke4:8; Matt.4:10), not an organizational "mountain" offering salvation (Rev.6:16; Zech4:7; Mark11:23; Rev.8:8; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:8).
      This exclusive devotion indicates that only God is to be personally worshipped, served and glorified. This teaching would characterize God's genuine "witnesses"....but not the climate of God's people in the time of the end (Rev.13:8,7,10,14,15,16,17,18,4; Isa.44:20; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16; Isa.44:20) (Deut.6:6,8; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16,8)
       
      Isa.43:21 adds more detail about these genuine witnesses. It highlights the facts that this new creation is being "formed" by God over time, into a group with a purpose (1Cor.3:9; Heb.9:11; Eph.2:21,22,19,20; Rev.21:14,17,22; 14:1). That singular purpose is to "declare" God's "praise" (Isa.43:21; 1Pet.2:9). This would exclude working to accrue praise for any other identity (Rom.2:29; Gal.1:10; Rev.13:8), nor pointing to its worldly power for salvation or divine knowledge. This singular purpose would certainly NOT include procuring praise for oneself (John7:18,16,17; Luke17:10). For God does not share His glory and praise with any other identity. Yhwh's genuine and chosen witnesses, already know this (Isa.42:8).

      Do we have any scriptural teachings in the Greek scriptures to indicate who these chosen witnesses are (since Isaiah is written to those in the Covenant that has already ended)? Yes...those chosen to be witnesses of Yhwh...those who continue to fulfill Isa.43:10-28 are identified under the New Covenant Nation (1Pet.2:9,10). The people God forms for himself to declare his praise, based upon the knowledge they have received directly from His spirit; are clearly identified for any who wish to be followers of Christ (John7:17; Matt.7:20).

      According to Yhwh..."Yhwh's Witnesses" are the anointed "chosen" ones, as long as they are:
      worshiping God alone,
      are taught by means of God's spirit and Word exclusively (John4:24; 17:17),
      and like Jesus, they must preach and teach others to have an exclusive devotion and worship to God alone. 
      (Matt.4:10; 22:36,37,38; Exo.34:14; Rev.13:8,4,7,15; Matt.23:37,34,35; Rev.18:24; 19:2; Isa.1:21)

      (Numbers35:30; Deut.17:6; 19:15,18,19; Prov.6:16,17,18,19; 12:17; 14:5; 25:18; James4:11; 1Pet.2:1; Rev.13:11; 16:13;13:18)
      Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness
       
       
       
    • By Witness
      When Jesus said that his disciples could be identified by their love of one another, the point he was making, is greater than what has yet been realized. 
      Rom.8:19 reads; "19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed." 
      Matt.5:48 states that the sons of God, imitate God's perfection in His love, just as Jesus Christ reflected that love through the sacrifice of his life (Matt.5:48; 1John4:8; Eph.5:1; John15:13; 10:11).
      We are to love one another, to that same extent (John15:12; 1John3:16).

      -- After the scriptures teach us what kind of love the genuine and faithful disciples of Christ will display toward their brothers... they also teach us the kind of hatred that is displayed by the unfaithful chosen, against their brothers. 
      If we use these lessons to distinguish the faithful from the unfaithful... we then can have revealed to us... the sons of God (Rom.8:19). 
      How then, do the scriptures expose, those who were genuinely chosen by God, but prove unfaithful and unloving? For we are assuredly told, that the love of greater number ("two thirds" in Revelation)... cools off (Matt.24:12; Rev.2:4; 2Cor.11:4; 1Tim.4:1;Rev.16:13-14; Matt.24:24-25).

      This is not a cooling of love out in Satan's secular world, but is a turning away from Christ's command to sacrificially love our anointed BROTHERS (1John4:20-21,16; Rom.12:5; Col.1:18; 2:19-20; Eph.2:2; 2Thess.2:1-3; Rev.2:4-5; Luke16:3,1-2)
      Matt.25:42-45
      Since the scriptures foretell this falling away from Christ and the loss of love in the body of Christ which results; Do the scriptures also reveal the details of who, from among the anointed chosen, loses their love? 
      Yes, they do. 

      Let us consider the pattern of unloving behavior that Jesus disclosed to us, and who it is, who practices that pattern of disobedience, among the brothers of Christ......

      Luke12: "42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master of the household, puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and **he then begins to beat his fellow servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk."**

      Matt.24: "48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master is staying away, longer than I expected.’ 49 And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of (Luke19:44; Rev.16:15; John10:10; Matt.24:43). 51 He will cut him to pieces (Hosea 6:5; Rev.2:26-27) and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

      First of all, we should establish that the master Christ's household are genuine anointed (Eph.2:19-22; 3:17; 1Pet.2:4-5; Heb.3:6)
      Next, to recognize that Jesus appoints a steward/shepherd to the household sheep of each era, to be the channel of spiritual food to the master's household (Luke12:42; Rev.11:3; John21:17; 1Thess.5:12-13; Heb.13:17; Rev.22:1-2; Matt.7:20; Rev.1:20;Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3,10; Rev.22:6; Mal.3:1-3)
      Such stewards are compared to stars/burning lamplight/messenger-angels... to their own lampstand/congregation/household (Rev.1:20). 

      Those appointed stewards, can prove diligent, obedient, refreshing, loving, and faithful, 
      or unfaithful, wicked, drunk, disloyal, deceptive, spiritually lethal, and unloving (1John3:10-12) (Rev.1:20; 8:10-11; 9:1-3,10;13:11,15; 11:3,7; John16:2). 
      The wicked stewards, battle with the faithful ones (2Cor.11:11-15; 10:3-5; Eph.6:12-13; Rev.16:13-16; 17:14; 2Thess.2:1-3,9-13;1Tim.4:1). 

      Each hearer must decide, which "congregation"/lampstand they will belong to, based upon whose spiritual food, and which steward/prophet, they accept.
      The wicked steward (as described at Luke12:45 and Matt.24:48-49 above), also are described as "eating and drinking with drunkards" as well as getting drunk themselves (Luke12:45; Rev.17:6; 18:24; Matt.23:31-39; 1John3:12,15-16). 
      That alliance with other drunkards, is depicted within many scriptures... (Matt.24:49; Dan.2:33; Rev.13:1,11,15; 17:3) 
      ...as well as how that alliance works against/"beats", the faithful (Rev.13:15,7; 11:7; John16:2; Mark8:35; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10;Luke21:24).

      The events now taking place between the anointed with power (through an alliance with the Gentile Beast)
      ... and those whose power has been "trampled down" and "brought to nothing"... (Dan.8:9-13; 2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:31-36;Mark13:13-14; Rev.11:2; 13:7,10; Luke21:24), ...did not take God and Jesus by surprise. They prophesied these developments to us, thousands of years in advance. It is only a matter of recognition on our own part, whether or not we perceive and understand, what is now taking place in prophetic detail (Matt.24:15-16; Mark13:13-14), within God's household of priests, 
      and the unloving steward, now using a Beast, to "beat" his fellows.

      If we are able to discern who it is, that is feeding the household of Christ with poisoned water/rotten fruit that perishes... who has also formed an alliance with a beastly force that has been imbued by that false prophet/wicked steward (Rev.19:20), with an image of being spirit-directed (Rev.13:15; John20:22), enabling it to replace and trample down without mercy or love, that wicked steward's fellow priests and brothers...

      ...then truly, you have discerned.... 

      --who it is that lovingly gives their life for their brothers (genuine disciples of Christ), 
      --who it is that murders their brother, 
      and also, 
      --who the loving sons of God really are, whom God promised would be revealed, at Rom.8:19! (Mal.3:18; Isa.8:18)
       
      Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      *** w74 6/15 p. 376 par. 8 Serve with Eternity in View ***
      8 This kingdom, the means by which eternal life is possible for us, is a heavenly government. Jesus himself is the chief Ruler, and he is to have 144,000 corulers who have been chosen from mankind and called by God to heavenly life. (Rom. 8:16, 17; Luke 22:29; Rev. 5:9, 10; 14:1) The paramount importance of this kingdom is seen in the emphasis that God put on it in the Bible. It was the chief subject of Jesus’ preaching. (Matt. 4:23) Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life.
      *** w06 6/1 p. 24 par. 12 Jehovah Tells “From the Beginning the Finale” ***
      12 The foreordination of the 144,000 does not mean that certain individuals were predestined to serve God faithfully in this way. Indeed, the admonition in the Christian Greek Scriptures was written primarily to guide and strengthen anointed ones to maintain integrity and keep themselves worthy of their heavenly calling. (Philippians 2:12; 2 Thessalonians 1:5, 11; 2 Peter 1:10, 11) Jehovah knows in advance that 144,000 individuals will qualify to serve his purpose. Who they prove to be depends on how those invited individually choose to live their life, a decision that each one of them must make personally.—Matthew 24:13.
    • By Witness
      Imagine a large room, where genuine anointed ones from the organization have gathered together. I say “genuine” because it is becoming a discreet trend for many to partake during the memorial, who are not anointed. In my mind, I see this as another attempt by Satan to seduce individuals into thinking that all are part of the anointed Body of Christ, under the New Covenant; and which is another step in concealing who the “holy ones” are.
      Imagine that these anointed ones in the room are robed in the holy garments that clearly identify them in like manner as the early holy priesthood, awaiting sanctification to serve in God’s Temple. Exod 28:39-43; 39:22-31; 1 Cor 6:11; 2 Cor 7:1; Heb 8:5  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exod+28%3A39-43%3B+39%3A22-31%3B+1+Cor+6%3A11%3B+2+Cor+7%3A1%3B+Heb+8%3A5&version=NKJV
      From a door located on one side of this large room, another group arrives; men who are not wearing the holy priestly garb. They are not “circumcised” priests, but are “Gentiles” that have unofficially entered the courts of God’s Temple. Each man approaches and stands before an anointed priest, removes their holy garments, and dons the stolen robes, masking the true intentions of the heart. Rom 2:28,29; 9:6; Heb 8:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Joel 2:1-2; Rev.9:3-10; Matt.24:21; Luke21:20,24; Rev.13:10,7 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom+2%3A28%2C29%3B+9%3A6%3B+Heb+8%3A10%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+Joel+2%3A1-2%3B+Rev.9%3A3-10%3B+Matt.24%3A21%3B+Luke21%3A20%2C24%3B+Rev.13%3A10%2C7+&version=NKJV
      They tell the anointed ones to exit by the other door; which they do, with no questions asked. The result obliterates any “daily sacrifice” that only the authentic priests are able, and are obligated to perform. With the new fraudulent priesthood come new “sacrifices of praise” that support - not God - but an idol. 1 Chron 23:30-32; 2 Chron 20:11,12; Ezek 8:6; 2 Cor 11:20; Matt 24:15; 1 Pet 2:5; Rom 12:1; Heb 13:15; Rev 2:20 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chron+23%3A30-32%3B+2+Chron+20%3A11%2C12%3B+Ezek+8%3A6%3B+2+Cor+11%3A20%3B+Matt+24%3A15%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%3B+Rom+12%3A1%3B+Heb+13%3A15%3B+Rev+2%3A20+&version=NKJV
      These “uncircumcised” “Gentiles” have been given free access by powerful, rebellious traitors against Christ, to enter God’s Temple…and defile it. No longer does God hear the praises from His holy ones, and no longer can His “living stones” be called, Holy. God’s genuine priesthood has been “defrocked” and a false priesthood now demands their obedience. Ezek 5:11; 1 Cor 3:17; Luke 16:3; Ezek 44:6-8; Rev 13:11,12,15; Ps 79:1  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Ezek+5%3A11%3B+1+Cor+3%3A17%3B+Luke+16%3A3%3B+Ezek+44%3A6-8%3B+Rev+13%3A11%2C12%2C15%3B+Ps+79%3A1&version=NKJV
      es 17, pp 57-67 - “Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope.”
      Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge,
      And people should seek the law from his mouth;
      For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.
      “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.”  Heb 8:10
       “And we have such trust through Christ toward God.  Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.”  1 Cor 3:4-6
      “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
      “And My servant whom I have chosen,
      That you may know and believe Me,
      And understand that I am He.
      Before Me there was no God formed,
      Nor shall there be after Me.  Isa 43:10
      “Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious,  you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 
      “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light”  1 Pet 2:4,5,9
      These are the true “Witnesses” God has chosen to bear His name.
      In reality, we do not see the anointed priesthood wearing holy garments. Within the Watchtower, we cannot distinguish how they are set apart for a special work under the New Covenant. Mark 14:22-24 We may only notice them partaking of emblems at the memorial each year; but please, JWs, picture them as each one being part of God’s Temple as a “living”, Temple “stone”. John 2:19-21;1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17 Should these stones be replaced with those ‘carved’ by men? Deut 27:5-8; 1 Kings 6:7; Matt 16:18   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+14%3A22-24%3B+John+2%3A19-21%3B1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3BDeut+27%3A5-8%3B+1+Kings+6%3A7%3B+Matt+16%3A18+&version=NKJV
      Because it takes spiritual discernment to see this, the Watchtower relies on their ability to cover over these spiritual insights of scripture; and by doing so, have successfully “defrocked” God’s priesthood, replacing them with “uncircumcised” “Gentiles” – the Body of Elders. Ezek 44:23,24; Mal 2:7-9 The "sacrifices of praise" by this false priesthood do not ascend to God, since those have been abolished. They are praises supporting the Watchtower Idol - "Jehovah's organization". Rev 13:4,7,8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezek+44%3A23%2C24%3B+Mal+2%3A7-9%3BRev+13%3A4%2C7%2C8&version=NKJV
      Watchtower 02/8/1 “REPRESENTING the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not.” “Rather than CHALLENGE their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”
      To enforce this blasphemous authorization of replacing God’s Temple priests, the article boldly states:
      “Jehovah’s spirit is upon them; they have his approval.”
      Is this true? God’s Word verifies that it has never been acceptable for his temple priesthood to be replaced. 2 Chron 23:6;13:9  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chron+23%3A6%3B13%3A9&version=NKJV
      Matthew 24:15 – “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ (the “disgusting thing”) spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)”
      How can we relate this scripture to the elder body having authority over the anointed priesthood in the organization?  Rev 11:1,2, shows “Gentiles” overtaking the sanctuary/"holy place" of God, and robbing the anointed priesthood of their ‘holy garments’; thus desolating the sanctuary. 
      Also, Daniel reveals the intentions of Watchtower’s leaders to destroy God’s “sanctuary”:
      “He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.  Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered. “ Dan 8:11,12
      The last powerful and “unusual” force of Daniel’s image expresses two contrasting elements – one of clay and one of iron, found together. The entirety of this image describes powers that have affected God’s people during their individual historic reigns, but please consider Pearl Doxsey’s comment on the last power and fourth beast that the anointed ones face today in the Watchtower organization.
      “The feet of the image shows that the reign over the anointed in the time of the end, is dual.
      Not only is the metallic element still there (as it was in the previous powers- All "Gentiles"-not God's people) (Gentiles-Iron); for the first time, the statue contains "clay" of the earth..."the offspring of MANKIND". (Dan.2:41,42,43)
      This clay represents those who belong to the "Potter" (Isa.29:16; 45:9; Jer.18:6; Rom.9:21), and they SHOULD be molded by Him alone. But instead, they mold themselves to the Iron (Gentiles) by conforming themselves to the iron, allowing the iron to mold them, rather than God.
      Unknowingly, these "clay" actually conform to Satan's will, becoming a part of Satan's dominion over God's people (Rev.9:1; 17:12). In a short time, that clay hardens to this form (as baked clay), and is no longer useful to its original owner. It is now suited only for destruction as an extension of Satan's "body".
      This has come to pass, in that the anointed today are DOMINATED within the Organization, not only by spiritual "Gentiles" alone; but by their own brothers who have joined in with the Gentiles to dominate their brothers in Christ....the wicked steward with "confirmed drunkards" from outside the master's household (Matt.24:45,48,49,50,51).
      When Christ, through the final capstone, "smashes" the feet of the image of Daniel (Dan.2:34,45; Heb.11:10; Eze.3:8,9; Isa.50:7; 45:17; 49:8; 54:4; Micah.1:2); it is not smashing all of Satan's world, but only the Image Satan has used to dominate God's people, which is NOT Satan's entire world-wide dominion.
      It is well known that the Image of Daniel does not contain all the political identities which have ever existed in Satan's world; But only ones which have dominated God's chosen people.”
      Pearl Doxsey  - 4womaninthewilderness
      Please, JWs, educate yourselves of the vital importance of this priesthood dominated by the fourth Beast of Daniel’s visions. Dan 7:7 Not only are the anointed ones affected by such a crushing duel power, but also are all, who reside in the organization. We are to FLEE AWAY from this abomination and come to the true Mountain that will destroy the last power to afflict God’s people. Matt 24:16
       



    • By Witness
      In the JW October Broadcast, an assembly hall in the United States is referenced as “Jehovah’s House”. They make the comparison of the early temple maintenance, to the care of the “773 assembly halls worldwide”. It goes into detail how this is accomplished, and John 2:17 is used to support it, which says “Zeal for your house will consume me.” These words were consistently used during the segment, convincing JWs of the obligation to maintain “Jehovah’s house”. Such blasphemy and irony. Jesus was incensed that the early temple had become a “house of merchandise”, which is no different than any convention or assembly by the Watchtower, by setting the goal for donations ahead of time. What a strange twist of a lie.

      But, the grave sin resulting from this Watchtower lie is that we see again, God’s Temple/dwelling/house has been abused through a corrupt source of spiritual commodity. The anointed priesthood has been forced to “buy and sell” "spiritual food" only what a wicked slave has determined. Yet, also God’s Word has been deliberately bypassed by the false prophet/beast of the earth, which gives proof there is NO OTHER TEMPLE OR “HOUSE” than the anointed Body of Christ. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 13:11,15-17 The Watchtower has convinced the anointed and their brethren to worship a composite idol – the organization and all of its material holdings. 
      “And his disciples remembered that it is written: Zeal for your house will consume me.
      18 So the Jews replied to him, “What sign will you show us for doing these things?”
      19 Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it up in three days.”
      20 Therefore the Jews said, “This temple took forty-six years to build, and will you raise it up in three days?”
      21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body. 22 So when he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the statement Jesus had made. John 2:17-22

      I am so amazed how the Watchtower can cherry-pick one scripture, and twist it so tightly into a shiny new lie. Can Jesus’ words to the woman at the well be dismissed, when he said God is seeking for such ones to worship only in “spirit and truth”?  1 Pet 1:25; Isa 40:3-8
      Keeping in mind that the broadcast is comparing meeting buildings to the early temple where God’s spirit once dwelled (God’s house) and where worship to God was given, notice what the Watchtower says,
      wp 16  No. 2 pp. 8-10 - “The Jewish temple was a tangible structure at a specific geographic location. But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.
      How, then, should Christians view pilgrimages to and worship at shrines? Taking into account Jesus’ command that true worshippers worship God with spirit and truth, it is clear that worship rendered at any shrine or sacred place has no special value to our heavenly Father. Additionally, the Bible tells us how God views the veneration of idols in worship. It says: “Flee from idolatry” and “guard yourselves from idols.” (1 Corinthians 10:14; 1 John 5:21) Therefore, a true Christian would not worship at any place that is viewed as holy in itself or one that encourages idolatry. Thus, on account of the very nature of shrines, true Christians refrain from worshipping at them.”
      SHRINE – “any structure or place consecrated or devoted to some saint, holy person, or deity, as an altar, chapel, church, or temple.”
      Watchtower’s definition of “God’s House”/Temple are meeting places - shrines.  God’s definition is the Body of Christ.
      Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness:
      “It was asserted to me, that it is important for Christians to gather in some sort of church structure. I offer some scriptural considerations, about that thought.... Regarding buildings, Jesus' own apostles commented on the buildings that were at the center of the true God's worship. Just after Jesus proclaimed his breaking ties with the organization of his day (Matt.23:38-39), his apostles appealed to him to reconsider, by saying..., "Look Lord. what wonderful stones and buildings, and offerings dedicated to God! He said, 6 “Do you see these things? The days will come when there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” (Matt.24:1-2; Mark13:1; Luke21:5-6). What building could exist, more fitting for worship, than the Temple in Jerusalem, while God's covenant with the Jews was still in force? Of it, Jesus also said; "Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days." (John2:19). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…
      Would God's new place of dwelling with the people, be physical? Acts7:48 reads; ""However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands". The new Temple dwelling of God, that would be raised up in the Body of Christ, would not be physical. The new Temple for worship, and "place of prayer for all nations", would be his "Body". Please consider how the next two scriptures, impact that concept... "Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it." (1Cor.12:27) -- "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?" (1Cor.3:16).
      Connected to God's presence and dwelling among mankind, Rev.21:3 reads; "And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.". If we consider ourselves "God's people", and ascribe import to the existence of His genuine dwelling... would we not want to give it more significance than a literal building of mortar and wood? Of such things, Jesus said they were all due to pass away. But the Temple OF HEAVEN (Acts7:44; Heb.8:5; 12:22-24), provides treasure for us that will never pass away, if we store up in our heart, what is genuine.
      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…
      Just previous to Rev.21:3 (which speaks of the presence of God's genuine Temple with men), verse 2 reads; "And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man." "NEW JERUSALEM" contains the New Temple, referred to by Christ. Just as a husband and wife become one flesh... "so that they are no longer two, but one"... New Jerusalem (the "bride prepared for her husband"), has become "one spirit with Christ" (1Cor.6:17) and one Spiritual body with him (1Cor.12:27), as God's Temple, with mankind.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…
      If we believe that a physical building has any significance or impact, regarding our salvation and connection to God and Christ... are we really perceiving the significance of what these foregoing scriptures, reveal? It can be summed up by a conversation Jesus had, in John, chapter 4:
      "The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
      But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John4:19-21,23-24).
      So... no mention of a location, a particular religion, or any sort of physical building. 
      "Spirit and Truth". From where can spirit and truth be found? God's spirit and truth, are put inside the "living stones" of His Temple (1Pet.2:5,9-10; Eph.2:20-22) 
      - "built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit." (Eph 2:20-22)
      "He set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." (2Cor.1:22)
      "But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth." (1John2:20)
      "the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." (John14:17).
      Rev.5:9-10 speaks of those who are God's Temple priesthood, bought by the blood of Christ. As Heb.8:5 stated, the original physical tabernacle which Moses erected under God's direction, was built and patterned according to the heavenly one to come. It was to be a perfect reflection of the spiritual reality, expressed in physical terms. Of the original priesthood, Mal.2:7 reads; "For the lips of a priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts." As brought out by Rev.5:9-10... Christ has a priesthood over which he is high priest.   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…
      Should we not seek out that Genuine Temple of God, rather than give value to a building made by human hands, where "moth and rust, consume"?
      "Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister in the holy places, in the true tent that the Lord set up, not man." (Heb.8:1-2)
       
    • By Kurt
      Ernest Gericke claimed he had been appointed in the office of ‘the Christ’ and wanted the court to hear his ‘public oath of office of the King’.
      An urgent application by a Centurion man who wanted the  North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria to place him in control of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world has been struck off the roll.
      Ernest Ronald Gericke, an “anointed one” of the religious group, claimed in court papers he had been appointed in the office of “the Christ” and wanted the court to hear his “public oath of office of the King”.
      But Judge Bill Prinsloo struck the matter off the court roll.
      In what appeared to be papers drawn up by himself, Gericke sought an order placing him in full control and ownership over all the assets of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world, disbanding the governing body of the organisation and declaring him the rightful leader.
      He also wanted the court to interdict anyone who openly opposed the “new arrangement” and did not cooperate with him, and to order the police to assist him.
      In addition, he wanted the court to order that the organisation should immediately be providing him and his family with living and office space and cover their expenses.
      Gericke relied on quotes from the Bible and various publications of the organisation to sustain his claim to overall leadership and said as the new leader and “the Christ”, his order was that the South African branch of the organisation in Krugersdorp was declared as their new temporary headquarters; that the governing body was disbanded; memberships of committees revoked; and anyone who opposed him should be removed from the organisation’s property.
      He said that after the court had heard his public oath of office, members of the organisation would then be presented, on April 11, with an oath to the king and would then become citizens of the Kingdom of God on Earth, which he would establish on that day. He wanted the court to order that this new arrangement be communicated to all congregations of the organisation around the world.
      national 8.4.2017
       
    • By Queen Esther
      This  graphic  is  showing  the  number of partaking anointed remnant at the  MEMORIAL  since  1938....
      What  a  big  surprise  is  this  curious  curve !
      Many  years  of  lessening # of partaking anointed ones,  until  2007....
       
      Fred Franz
      b. Sept. 12, 1893 d. Dec. 22, 1992. (possibly a last one of the first group of anointed of "this generation")
      Mark Sanderson born 1965, baptized 1975 (10 yrs old), 27 yrs. old in 1992. ( 17 yrs in truth by this time; one of the last one's of "this generation")
      1993   8,693
      1994   8,617
      1995   8,645
      1996   8,757
      1997   8795
      1998   8756
      1999   8755
      2000   8661
      2001   8730
      2002   8760
      2003   8565
      2004   8570
      2005   8524
      2006   8,758
      2007   9,105 (when increase became
      2008   9,986 without question)
      2009 10,857
      2010 11,202
      2011 11,824
      2012 12,604   
      2013 13,204
      2014 14,121
      2015 15,177   6419 increase in past 9 years  
       
       
       
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    • The chemical industry perpetually uses devious tactics to con health-seeking people into poisoning themselves. The confusion existing around fats and oils is intentional, and it is designed to prevent us from making healthier choices.   The margarine scam of yesteryear presented margarine as a healthier alternative to butter. The medical establishment bought into the lie, and then it advantageously based an entirely new business segment upon eliminating cholesterol. Thus began another lucrative partnership between the food industry and the petrochemical industry, which are conveniently owned by the same people. One group profits from doing the damage, and the other division profits by treating the resultant diseases perpetually. The epidemic of heart disease began in the mid-twentieth century, after butter and traditional oils were replaced in our diets by the new “healthier” vegetable oils. Leading the health-destroying parade was researcher, Ancel Keys. He is known as the father of the Lipid Hypothesis. Keys cherry-picked statistics to create an international study of heart disease, and presented it to medical publications to prove that natural saturated fats cause heart disease. For Keys’ research, the term “international” meant using only the results from the 7 countries which yielded the conclusions that he wanted. He even titled his original paper, “The Seven Countries Study”. The data from the other dozen countries was stricken, because the data from everywhere else disproved the Lipid Hypothesis. Most of the data actually showed that there was no relationship between saturated fat and cholesterol, or even cholesterol and heart disease. At the time, many other research scientists were appalled by Keys’ shoddy research, but the media and its top clients in the petrochemical industry embraced Keys’ findings. Natural fats had to be replaced with chemically-altered fats and highly processed vegetable oils, of which the young biotechnology industry was in the process of streamlining. All of this very conveniently opened the door for industry giants to obtain monopoly patents concerning food preparation. The processes of obtaining naturally-occurring foods, such as butter, cannot be patented. Keys’ scientific swindle was so masterful that the medical establishment is still direly warning us about how dangerous butter is. In reality, butter contains a uniquely beneficial spread of nutrients and fats that are critical to heart, brain, dental, bone, and nervous system health. There is little wonder why the Bible foretold that the Christ would be raised on butter and honey, so that he would know the good. Most people now at least know of the dangers of hydrogenated oils, but these oils are still doctor recommended as the healthy alternative. Deceptive Marketing about Cooking Oils Soy oil is still being promoted at some retailers as the healthy choice (e.g. Whole Food’s Market), despite all of the revelations about it over the past decade. All soy sold is genetically engineered and highly processed. The word “soy” sometimes appears inside the fine print on the back of the so-called healthy vegetable oil containers, as if companies are finally beginning to hide it. Even though soy is now known to be an unhealthy oil by most health-conscious people, companies are much more willing to alter their marketing than their unethical practices. Some of the oil containers boldly list olive oil in huge text across the front of the bottles; implying that it is the main ingredient, but the labeling often reveals that olive oil is actually the last (least used) ingredient. The real and main ingredients are toxic combinations of highly processed soy and canola oil. A few of the braver companies still emphasize that their product is canola oil, since not everyone knows about canola oil yet. When the dangers of canola become more widely known, we can be certain that it will be the marketing (not the ingredients) that is changed. One toxic cooking oil product is even called Omega-3 Oil. This is despite the fact that it is virtually impossible to extract raw omega-3 oil without it immediately breaking down into something completely different, especially whenever heat (from processing) is added. The resultant non-omega compounds are hazardous. The Omega-3 Oil product is actually just canola oil — which, by the way, loses all of its omega-3 and becomes toxic when heated. Bear in mind that it is an oil intended for cooking. Pesticides are rarely used on soybean or canola plants, because both plants are so toxic that insects avoid them. Canola oil is officially an E.P.A. registered pesticide, and soy contains compounds that are designed specifically to disrupt hormones. What The Soy Industry Never Told You There is no such thing as an all-natural soy-based food, because soybeans are toxic in their natural state. Processing is essential for soy foods, because soy is poisonous in its natural organic state (containing natural insecticides), so there are never truly organic soy products for human consumption. When you see a product that is claimed to have “healthy all-natural soy”, then make a mental note to never buy anything from that unethical company. It has proven that it will happily hurt you, and lie about it for profit. Soy must be processed in some manner for it to be safe for human consumption, and even then, it is not truly safe. The fermentation processes that were historically used by Asian nations are no longer used today, and the overall health of modern-day Asians is rapidly declining. 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Why Vegetarians and Vegans Should Consume Hemp Instead of Soy Vegetarian and vegan diets leave individuals lacking in key nutrients, proteins, fats, and amino acids. Adults have a right to make such decisions for themselves, but parents who keep children on vegetarian diets are guilty of chronic child abuse. Vegetarian diets for children should be illegal, and this is doubly so for vegan diets. When people choose to be vegetarian or vegan, they generally utilize soy-based products to compensate for their protein deficiency. Soy is horrendous to a body, and it is unfit for human consumption. Infants who are fed soy formulas are far more likely to develop hormonal diseases like endometriosis and thyroid disease later in life. The estrogen-like compounds contained within soy hinder development by mimicking estrogen. They imbalance human hormones; especially in females. 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Vegetarians frequently have problems with stamina, which has been shown to be massively improved with hemp; especially when combined with iron. Hemp also helps those who are lacking fiber, and those who are embracing gluten-free diets. Readers should be aware that this report does not imply that any vegetarian diet could be considered ideal, but merely that the introduction of hemp as a complete soy replacement would be a very wise health choice. An occasional steak to provide bio-usable iron that a human body can actually use would be wise too. For useful iron, and the vastly superior form of vitamin A (retinol), there really is no good substitute for red meat. Whole Foods Market Promotes Soy Some years ago, we stumbled across a web page promoting the use of soybean-based foods at the web site of Whole Food’s Market. 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