James Thomas Rook Jr.

Your question is based on the false premise that what is shown has to be one or the other .... fashionable or abdominal.
I doesn't.
Now   .... if you had chosen "tacky" or "frivolous", you might have a case.

Your question is based on the false premise that what is shown has to be one or the other .... fashionable or abdominal.
I doesn't.
Now   .... if you had chosen "tacky" or "frivolous", you might have a case.

I disagree:
It is NOT loyalty to the GB.
It is fear of reprisals, banishment, and social ostracism.
I have never even met anyone that is "loyal to the Governing Body".
They do try to be loyal to God ...by obeying the non-inspired and all to often fallible and flat wrong, sometimes goofy self-aggrandizing teachings of the GB.
Sometimes that is noble and a good thing to do.
Sometimes ... not.
They alone are allowed to apostatize from their previous teachings, without severe punishment.

Well—now that you put it that way....

But this is the open club where anything goes!

 

How does this make any sense to average jws? 
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Try not to underestimate the Average JWs....many have and are working things out...but they are also working out some things that others here are not...
the thing you have to remember....is Jehovah  will and always has disciplined his chosen men in authority over his people...
1) Moses ...he was a murderer before he was ever given his assignment....and at nearing the end of their journey...due to such a heavy load upon him and stresses that none of us could bear...he actually became self righteous and proud..and I am imagining that attitude  would not have happened over night or just when he walked and stood before the Rock..
all Jehovah told Moses To do was to SPEAK to the rock...but no...Moses first yelled abuse at the people.( I dont really blame him but he was not ordered to do that ) 
he had no right to do that.
And  Moses becoming full of himself and his importance ( pride ) he felt HE had to do MORE than what was asked of him.
He struck the rock ..not once...but his personal decision and leaning on his own Underderstanding and reasonings...he struck TWICE..because he deemed the stupid people needed that..( do you or have you ever felt that the GB have beaten you with their rod ) ...and then he gathered the miracle to himself by saying ..
SHALL WE....As we all know it had nothing to do with him..but everything to do with Jehovah...( he took the glory to himself and ignored Jehovah )
 
now we all know he was disciplined very harshly later for that but what most miss...and this is a very important point...is Jehovah still expected the People to follow his instructions that he gave to Moses.....he STILL USED the about to be disciplined Moses....and he EXPECTED the people to follow those instructions ...because they never came from Moses but Him.
yes Jehovah allowed Mosses to sin...as he did Aaron...as he did King David...and countless others he used.........because there is no human that can rule over or govern his people on this earth..and he knew that all along...he knew whoever takes authoritarian position over his gathered   people will commit such grave errors..
yet he still expected the people to stay together......but he expects us to work these things out...to reason on why he allows these things...
Moses didn’t trust Jehovah enough to just speak...
Jehovahs approach was much more gentle and kind to the Israelites ...take your rod, assemble the people and speak to the rock.
Moses was rather bombastic Prideful and harsh and he did it His way...
Numbers 20:24
Because you rebelled against MY Command at the waters of Meribah you will not enter into the land for which I have given to the sons of Israel.
Imagine that....calling and accusing Moses and Aaron of being Rebels
and yet it was Moses and Aaron who accused the people of being rebels ...
Numbers 20:10
.....hear now YOU REBELS
the point being is Jehovah will always discipline those he allows authority and those who claim to have it....
yet he still loved Moses very much and even after death..Jesus safeguarded his bones ....
Until MOSES death he still expected the people to follow his instructions...as his job was still yet to be completed....nobody fled the camp after Moses verbal abuse of them or harsh display of frustration and piety....they stayed...and trusted Jehovah..to handle the situation..
so too today...we must trust that Jehovah knows what he is doing...
Soon we will cross over Into that New Land....and as Joshua/ typifying Jesus led the people..into the land flowing with milk and honey........so to will Jesus....lead those who prove faithfull.
Yes it’s excruciating at times..but the night is well along...and the day will soon break forth....
 

 

Yes, that is kind of my point. Obviously customs change, but I think the way it's done at the KH is for practical reasons mainly, but to do it the same way when there is only a handful of you, delegates the whole event to more of an invented (by us) ritual, and that is what has been my contention, that the memorial has become some kind of ceremonial tradition, just add Latin as JTR suggested and we're good to go!

Did he do it in Latin?

I disagree:
It is NOT loyalty to the GB.
It is fear of reprisals, banishment, and social ostracism.
I have never even met anyone that is "loyal to the Governing Body".
They do try to be loyal to God ...by obeying the non-inspired and all to often fallible and flat wrong, sometimes goofy self-aggrandizing teachings of the GB.
Sometimes that is noble and a good thing to do.
Sometimes ... not.
They alone are allowed to apostatize from their previous teachings, without severe punishment.

I quote 4jah2me "it seems crazy to let yourself die" ...... well ..... jesus allowed himself to die in loyalty to his father......  4jah2me obviously sees something seriously SICK in that!......... or maybe did not fully understand what I was referring to.
There is a problem: he cannot see that a person should not value his life more than his obedience to God!!! 
Matt 16 :25
"For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.  "
 
 

You are a sick lady to say such a thing. 
I'd better stop at that. 

ok, but that is totally different then what 4jah2me was saying. Wasn't 4jah2me pointing out in Matt 12 that Jesus said we would save our sheep on the Sabbath, and then comparing that to how much more valuable a person is than a sheep? So just because it was the sabbath, we should still preserve ourselves the best we can? This hardly would apply to self killing because the gb said so. 
This is precisely what 4jah2me was saying. Stating that is ridiculous to die for what the gb has stated. the gb have positioned themselves AS God to jws, what they say goes.....and it matters not what the Bible says if it is in contrast to what the gb says. this was the point 4jah2me was making. 
 
to compare Jesus' death to a person who chooses NOT to accept life saving techniques is absurd. Jesus could have easily healed His wounds, or made it possible to not die. He did die, to BE the sacrifice we all needed and to do it once and for all. A senseless death because of the burden the gb puts on people is in no way showing loyalty to God, instead it is showing loyalty to the gb.  

... and that was 2,000 or so years before the invention of deodorants!
.... and flea powder!

Did he do it in Latin?

At least when it's just the two of you, imitating that "bosom position" thing doesn't seem so awkward. Try that at the Hall!
 
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*** it-1 p. 219 Attitudes and Gestures ***
In the reclining manner of eating that was practiced during the days Jesus was on earth, to lean on another’s bosom was an attitude of intimate friendship or favor, and this was known as the bosom position. (Joh 13:23, 25) This custom was the basis of the illustrations in Luke 16:22, 23 and John 1:18.

@James Thomas Rook Jr., I know that I've already said more than my share about this chart. But there is one point that I have never seen discussed very clearly. It's the fact that it's another way of saying the following:
This generation will by all means have passed away before all these things occur.
That probably sounds bad, since Jesus said exactly the opposite. But look closely at the chart and note the actual earliest and latest bounds shown for:
|<-- "This Generation" -->|
On the chart, "This Generation" only reaches to the time when the last person anointed by the year 1914 has died. Notice that big gap before "The Great Tribulation." It does NOT continue to last into the period when a "group 2" anointed person remains alive after the persons from "group 1" have died. And the talks always imply that there are already no more living persons from "group 1."
Therefore "This Generation" already finished in 1992 or perhaps a few years after that, although no specific examples were ever brought up as possible candidates, even if unnamed. The idea is given that there may have been possible candidates from group 1 that outlived FWF, but we can assume that these would not have outlived him for very many years. These appear to already be dead based on indications from the talk that Brother Splane was giving.
Although some might try to stretch group 1, we should remember that a person is not considered "anointed" until they are baptized. A reasonable baptismal age seems to be from about 14 to 30, so we'll accept 14. For a person to be anointed by 1914, they should have been baptized, presumably as a "Bible Student" and therefore aware of the Watchtower's view of the sign in 1914. This means they were born by or before 1900, baptized by or before 1914, and would be at least 120 years old today if they were part of "This Generation."  
Therefore "This Generation" has already passed away, and all these things did not occur. So, clearly, we are being asked to believe the very opposite of what Jesus said about the generation.
Jesus: This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
Splane: This generation will by all means have passed away before all these things occur.
Whom do we choose to believe?

Speaking of religious experiences ........
This morning I personally celebrated being alive with the contemporary emblems of Western Society ... doughnuts and coffee ..... and the memory of a sugar and caffeine high.
I was a partaker.
And no ... I don't want to get into a discussion about scones and crumpets, whatever they are.

Anna, my husband and I put it in front of us so the bread and wine could be prayed over and passed it to each other.  As a tactile person I like to hold the glass and plate for a brief second to think about it for a brief second so as to feel part of a celebration. It felt like a ceremony to me.... the memory of an inauguration. 
 
 

They will count baptized children, down to the age of three, or if they have been potty trained, down to the age of two.

Tom, I guess you are hoping to get very old or live through Armageddon. I am sick a second time.  I had these symptoms 6 weeks ago and got over it....... but it came back today.... lol.   I worked with tourists......
I remain in quaranteen and doctor myself. I will never go to a hospital.
This world-wide lockdown reminds me of the 66CE lockdown  in Jerusalem....... I believe we are on our way to that situation we have been waiting for!
After this the money system will be digital and all governance controlling..... central policies by UN....... maybe after our JW message a second lockdown? Like 70CE?
 

It is just an incorrect assumption........ Jesus taught us to pray for His name to be sanctified (by all people in future). This implies that jehovah knows his name is not sanctified by all people at present. 
It would be unloving of jehovah to give us his name and allow his son to teach us the name,  just so he actually wants us to hide it.
The wicked are amongst us and they do not respect anything holy.  Jehovah hope's that they change but each one will pay for their own error.  
The nations shall know I am Jehovah....in Ezekiel... what about the scripture which indicates that jehovah will remove the shame from his name.  This indicates it takes place in this present system.
Joel 2:  26 You will surely eat to satisfaction,And you will praise the name of Jehovah your God,Who has done wonders in your behalf; My people will never again be put to shame.  27 And you will have to know that I am in the midst of Israel And that I am Jehovah your God—there is no other! My people will never again be put to shame. 
 

I read that the the Catholic "Jerusalem" Bible and later the Catholic "New Jerusalem" Bible, were going to use Jahve, thinking it was possibly more accurate and more consistent with how other Hebrew names were translated, but they decided to stick with Yahweh because it was better known. Similar reasoning with the NWT translators in sticking with Jehovah.

Just because someone is elected to office, does NOT make them smart.
Central control of everything only works  with The Borg.

Use "Almighty True God", and all bases are covered.
...or, its "blahnblahblah", the rest of your life.

A LOT of things were true before 1985, when they changed the rules of who and what you were dedicating your life to.
81 years ago was 1939.
Disfellowshipping and shunning at that time by the Society was considered  a barbaric affront to God, and people ,...  only practiced by Catholics and similar false religions.
We did not even remotely as an institution have a disfellowshipping policy back then.
Brothers and Sisters were "marked" by individual congregants as their conscience dictated.
( By the way ... that's why we HAVE a theocratically trained conscience ...)