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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Evacuated in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    Many interesting comments!
    I'll do a bit of analysis later. But.....first impressions, it seems like we are all a bit in the dark!
    Like Jesus said: "Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mk 13:32.
    Huh! Don't you hate it when someone's always right???
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    I don't see how we would ever know when such a new period of time started. As far as we can tell it started immediately after the tribulation in those days. (i.e., immediately after the tribulation on Jerusalem and its final parousia/synteleia in 70 C.E.)
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    Hahaha, too true!
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    True, but not about the people in the picture. It was true of the number of generations in Matthew chapter 1.
    14+14+14=42
    (Unless these three people are galaxy hitchhikers.)
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Shiwiii in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    The answer to your question is......42
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    Of course, Jesus never said anything about these things happening either in greater, more terrifying, or more "concentrated measure." So even if earthquakes, for example, really had started to happen in "concentrated measure" in 1914 (they didn't!) this would still have nothing to do with the sign of Matthew 24. All Jesus said was that great earthquakes, for example, would happen and therefore not to be misled by them, because these are not signs that the end is imminent. ("Do not be misled . . . the end is not yet!").
    Of course, what you are talking about would still be the common reasoning, even if we somehow found a way to restart the generation with the start of the Governing Body around 1972, or the apostasy in 1980, or AIDS, or cart witnessing, or the re-assignment of the Governing Body as "guardians of doctrine" around 2000, or even some brand new unexpected event in 2018.
    So I brought up the point about the sign in Matthew 24 to propose that we would still be wrong to try to find new reasons to claim that earthquakes and wars were somehow more "concentrated" after a new starting date -- even if they WERE!
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Shiwiii in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    So, not a single scripture that shows Jesus understood a "generation" to be as currently defined by the Governing Body.  
     
    Anything that is not THAT, is looking into an empty basket, and seeing it overflowing with wisdom ... a self induced FANTASY
     
    NEWSFLASH !,  Jesus understood a generation to be the EXACT same way that EVERYBODY in HIS time understood it ... All civilization marks he time between one statistically average persons' birth and his death .. ONE GENERATION. 
     
    That is the way it has ALWAYS been understood ... since civilization began and they started counting years, AND counting children.
     
    THIS IS HOW JESUS UNDERSTOOD ONE GENERATION !
     
    That is the way EVERYBODY, and I do mean EVERYBODY that is not delusional and trying to CYA with a fantasy explanation understands it now.
     
    THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
     
    You can have overlapping generations between peoples, sure ... BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME GENERATION..
     
    It only takes ONE sentence and plain old common sense to understand this !
     
    " A generation is the time between ONE statistically average persons'  birth and his death. ".
     
    That's IT ... one simple sentence explains it all.
     
    Every life Insurance company in the world will pay you the policy benefits specified when you reach 100 years of age, even though you have not actually died.
     
    If you are alive at 100 years old, you get the money ... yourself!
     
    Previous threads did answer those concerns, and yes, I did not like them, because ....
    ... I WAS LOOKING FOR CORRECT ANSWERS that conform to REALITY !
    .
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Top Cat O'Malighan in What does not passing the collection plate really mean anyway?   
    Excuse me while I go handle a matter concerning @James Thomas Rook Jr.

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Srecko Sostar in What does not passing the collection plate really mean anyway?   
    Anna you have answer before eyes :))))
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in News – Bolivia, Contributions Decline Letter to all Congregations of Bolivia:   
    My considered best guess is that, because rank-and-file Jehovah's Witnesses EVERYWHERE have no say in anything except authorizing more money to be donated, the Bolivian Brothers are voting with their wallets.
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in What does not passing the collection plate really mean anyway?   
    You are NOT entitled to that information.
    Anything above the Circuit Level of upward streaming donations is a secret.

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from lentaylor71 in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    There is no consistent meaning to a generation in the Bible?
    Of course there is!
    It's the same consistent meaning everyone has EVER used .. no matter what time or place they lived in since humanity started counting its years ... and counting its children.
    " A generation is the time between ONE statistically average persons'  birth, and his death. ".
    Except the Society's Governing Body ...  to TRY and validate a failed "prophesy" of "Millions Now Living Will Never Die", starting in 1914 .... which is 103 YEARS AGO.
    ..... and keep the money rolling in.
    To cherry pick data .. FIRST YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME CHERRIES.
    There is NO scripture to support their idea.
    Reality does NOT support their idea.
    The common experience and definitions of the entire human race ... for all time ... and everywhere .. does NOT support their idea.
    The overlapping generations idea is made up from THIN AIR.
    It is supported by NOTHING except arrogance, and the desire not to have to get a REAL job of tedium and drudgery, or as old unemployable old men, push grocery carts with all their earthly possessions piled high, in the rain, on the streets of New York City.
    It's NOT about TRUTH.
    It's about MONEY!

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    Very good, the answer is not one but three! . I swear, it wasn't a trap, just plain ol logic
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Queen Esther in News – Bolivia, Contributions Decline Letter to all Congregations of Bolivia:   
    I  see  that  little  different....   many  postings  and  many  mistakes  better ?  NO !!
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    So, not a single scripture that shows Jesus understood a "generation" to be as currently defined by the Governing Body.  
     
    Anything that is not THAT, is looking into an empty basket, and seeing it overflowing with wisdom ... a self induced FANTASY
     
    NEWSFLASH !,  Jesus understood a generation to be the EXACT same way that EVERYBODY in HIS time understood it ... All civilization marks he time between one statistically average persons' birth and his death .. ONE GENERATION. 
     
    That is the way it has ALWAYS been understood ... since civilization began and they started counting years, AND counting children.
     
    THIS IS HOW JESUS UNDERSTOOD ONE GENERATION !
     
    That is the way EVERYBODY, and I do mean EVERYBODY that is not delusional and trying to CYA with a fantasy explanation understands it now.
     
    THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
     
    You can have overlapping generations between peoples, sure ... BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME GENERATION..
     
    It only takes ONE sentence and plain old common sense to understand this !
     
    " A generation is the time between ONE statistically average persons'  birth and his death. ".
     
    That's IT ... one simple sentence explains it all.
     
    Every life Insurance company in the world will pay you the policy benefits specified when you reach 100 years of age, even though you have not actually died.
     
    If you are alive at 100 years old, you get the money ... yourself!
     
    Previous threads did answer those concerns, and yes, I did not like them, because ....
    ... I WAS LOOKING FOR CORRECT ANSWERS that conform to REALITY !
    .
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    It makes more sense when explained with hand puppets!
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Matthew 24:34 "this generation"   
    Looking at those charts, graphs and formulas ... they made no sense to me WHATSOEVER, and I made my living doing math for about 40 years, but not this complicated. ( I could have done better if wearing open-toed sandals..).
    While we were out in Service, I asked the smartest brother (seriously) at the Kingdom Hall I go to,  if he could explain the new and improved "this generation..." to me.
    He was thoughtful for  several moments, and said: "I think they are trying to do the best they can...".
    I thought about showing this post to my wife, Susan, who is a high school math teacher, to see if she could decipher them ... but I suspect her reply would be similar to Albert Einstein's reply when asked if he understood the U.S. Internal Revenue Service Tax Code ... " I am a mathematician .. NOT a philosopher".
    By the way .... I have included a Feynman Diagram  that stumped Sheldon Cooper on the Season 1, episode 13 of the TV comedy "The Big Bang Theory", which is a LOT EASIER TO FIGURE OUT.  The answer is reported to be " minus 8 pi alpha" .
    You can see almost instantly see they they misinterpreted some of the variables.
    ( For those in Rio Linda, That was a JOKE! )
    UPDATE:  Susan just walked in and saw the "equation" and got upset and said it was all "Mush".
    That reminded me of the famous "Drake Equation" ( go ahead.. look it up.. it's worth the effort )  that will accurately predict how many intelligent civilizations currently exist in the Milky Way Galaxy, or the Universe.
    IF ( if! ) you plug into the equation the correct set of values.
    That is the same problem that exists with EVERYTHING previous to this post.
    Since there is no evidence ANYONE has the correct values ... to either philosophy .. and that is what they are ... philosophy ... it's all a wild-assed guess (WAG). 
    No more.
    MUSH




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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Help Them Return Without Delay! “Whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.”—JOHN 6:68. ?????   
    Anybody remember how long Joseph, Mary, and Jesus had to hide out in Egypt ... before THEY could come back?
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Queen Esther in Which Picture is Your Favorite? Jehovah favors them all! He loves His Creatures large and small! – ????????   
    Yeah, it was a real tiger .... and sleeping.  I saw it breathe.  I have no idea why it was so docile.
    I would have "distracted" it if it woke up, and Michelle knew this.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in What About Just Going to Meet People?   
    What about sometimes just going to the door to meet and converse with people - and forget all about the kingdom? Is there ever a place for this? It was the conversation this morning in our car group.
    Not as a regular thing. As part of a learning curve. Not all of the friends have 'people skills' yet they've volunteered for a work in which it is vital - or at least it makes the job go more smoothly.
    Just visit to meet neighbors. If they ask why you've come, tell them you're a Witness but you aren't there to talk about that unless they want - 'My people skills aren't what they could be and I want to improve them' you could say.
    I suspect it will get no worse results than some of those we already get. Some will want no part of it, likely most, some will be suspicious, but if you are successful in developing people skills, you will instantly detect that and change tacks. Or just thank them for their time and move on.
    Thoughts? Don't use it as a back door - a sneaky way to get in a witness. Say, if asked, 'some time I could tell you about the paradise earth, but I don't want to do that just now. I just want to meet people,' and talk about what's right before you - their garden, bumper stickers, family - whatever strikes your eye.
    "Whatever you may say will not be used against you." I don't know that I would say THAT, but if you're just out to improve people skills, you can do anything you want, since the object is to connect with people - not to 'give a witness.'
    My guess is that a certain percentage will, though this is not your object, begin to ask you how you came to choose the work you are doing? They will be disarmed. And you will not take advantage by arming. That will be for some entirely different time with someone else.
    For those who feel they are 'on duty' and MUST give a witness, they could slip in a tract or a card, especially when asked. "Here's a tract, but I don't want to talk about it just now." You get the idea.
    Has anyone ever done this?
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Queen Esther in The book "Seola" aka "Angels and Women", mummies, and a plethora of other curiosities from the 1800's onward   
    Hahaha....  @James Thomas Rook Jr.   I believe,  you've a deal /contract with  "007" !!  YES   
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Queen Esther in The book "Seola" aka "Angels and Women", mummies, and a plethora of other curiosities from the 1800's onward   
    Yeah J.R.Ewing ... I remember the day I realized I was 40 years older and growing bald.
    Perhaps it was just gravity pulling the hair down.
    At least ... my eyebrows grew back!
     



    Since I need to stay on topic.... weren't most Mummies, actually Daddies?
    .
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Queen Esther in Which Picture is Your Favorite? Jehovah favors them all! He loves His Creatures large and small! – ????????   
    fear and trembling ....
    fear and trembling.
     

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Queen Esther in Which Picture is Your Favorite? Jehovah favors them all! He loves His Creatures large and small! – ????????   
    TTH:
    You need to feed or recharge your dogs more often.
    My daughter's CAT could take either one,  or both of your dogs.





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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in Which Picture is Your Favorite? Jehovah favors them all! He loves His Creatures large and small! – ????????   
    We better catch some shuteye, Otis. JTR is at it again. Something tells me we're going to get a call from TopCat O'Malighan tomorrow 
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