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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Lets set up a cart.   
    I guess you havent tried it. There are many countries where there is still many responses.... and in those where there are not significant  responses... jehovah sees the faithfulness of the sisters and the public are reminded when they see the stands. Every time they ignore us they are making a choice!
    You see nothing we do for jehovah is vanity or in vain.  Wasting time on other pursuits is vanity as Solomon said.  
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Lets set up a cart.   
    Just to be seen, this is in itself a Witness. Also, those who are really interested, they find a way to come and take literature. 
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    Arauna reacted to Matthew9969 in Why are you still not going dtd and putting up carts where no one can talk to you?   
    I think you have the wrong Matthew, I believe your false advertising should be banned out right.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Why are you still not going dtd and putting up carts where no one can talk to you?   
    If there is one thing we have learned about Mathew 4 5784, it is that he bitches no matter what. Before the days of cart witnessing, he was saying, ‘Geez—you keep visiting people who aren’t interested. Why don’t you set up carts so that anyone who is can approach you, leaving the rest In peace?’
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Why are you still not going dtd and putting up carts where no one can talk to you?   
    We let the ones with fertile hearts come to us!  We talk to them only if they are interested in something they see on the cart. 
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    Allen! Allen! Allen! Allen! Allen!
    ALLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!
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    Arauna reacted to C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    This only works if there is no corruption and honesty. Maybe that's acceptable to you, not me. However, as someone stated earlier on this post, stick to scripture and on topic. Statistics are of no concern.
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    Sure. It's a bad habit from past employment, but I think a lot about what people can do with statistics. You know: "lies, d#$%n lies and statistics." You can make people believe in things that are true, only half-true, or completely false. Here are my own numbers below. I had never looked at mine before, and it reminded me that the 11 downvotes I gave out were part of a joke that I was playing with someone else here.
    But I can also state, with some sense of real accomplishment, that nearly 580 of the 618 downvotes I received, all came from the very same person, even though they came from about 27 of that same person's various accounts.

     
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    Arauna reacted to C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    @JW Insider


    Yes, I wonder where I've seen this before!!!
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    FWIW, Here is the full picture for Thinking in case someone might get a skewed picture from the incomplete picture:

    And several of those downvotes she received came from you-know-who, which makes them about as meaningless as downvotes can get.
    If one were to do a quick comparison. She gives out less than 1% of her votes as downvotes. The ratio is 1967+55+148= 2,170 to 13. That's not even counting the ones that indicate a sense of humor.
    By comparison, C-D67 has given out more than twice as many down-votes as ANY other kind of vote. Where have we seen that before, I wonder???
     
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    You have shown what you are sir.  You have been exposed as an  egotistical..... puffed up.....human being.   When someone does not agree with you .....you take the route of personal insults, false accusations and twisting of the others person's words to get a  cheap "win"' at any cost.  You protect your ideas asif they were the bible itself.
    Satan also quoted Jehovahs words and put a deceitful spin on it.... as he did with Eve.  Quoting the bible and putting false reasoning with it  - is not a truth. 
    I have always been polite and put some reply on your "icons to your greatness "  on this forum to get a conversation going.... but now I realized..... you are not interested in an honest discussion of your "not-so-well-thought out ideas" .... You do not want any discussion on this forum........of any of your teachings.
    You want your  words hanging here untouched  as a picture icon of your greatness.  And if someone upsets your apple cart and finds a dent in your reasoning -  you show a very ugly side to your personality.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    You have shown what you are sir.  You have been exposed as an  egotistical..... puffed up.....human being.   When someone does not agree with you .....you take the route of personal insults, false accusations and twisting of the others person's words to get a  cheap "win"' at any cost.  You protect your ideas asif they were the bible itself.
    Satan also quoted Jehovahs words and put a deceitful spin on it.... as he did with Eve.  Quoting the bible and putting false reasoning with it  - is not a truth. 
    I have always been polite and put some reply on your "icons to your greatness "  on this forum to get a conversation going.... but now I realized..... you are not interested in an honest discussion of your "not-so-well-thought out ideas" .... You do not want any discussion on this forum........of any of your teachings.
    You want your  words hanging here untouched  as a picture icon of your greatness.  And if someone upsets your apple cart and finds a dent in your reasoning -  you show a very ugly side to your personality.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    More than enough scriptures were used at the convention.  I am not a teacher or a debater on this forum. I give logical opinions - that is it.
    You can take up some of the thoughts which are in line with the scriptures you already know - or discard them.  I expect people on here to know most of the basic scriptures.
    I have in the past taken the time to look up the scriptures and people just ignore them and go on presenting their own ideas. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    Ok, I referred to our recent 3- day convention which you are not taking into consideration. . My language was not perfect, I agree, just as yours does not properly define literal and spiritual events. BUT the point was that the throwing of satan out of heaven was  actually (correction - not the first ) the 2nd step leading to the time of  the end / or the period leading up  to Armageddon. I loved the idea at the convention where they tied SEVERAL  literal events (or steps) to the eventual culmination in Armageddon. 
    The first step was that Jesus was crowned in heaven. This was a literal event that took place in the spiritual realm..... (NOT A SPIRITUAL event.) ...... Jesus thereafter "hurled" Satan down. This was in the spiritual realm but was a literal / real event.....after this there are several signs/ steps and events which culminate in Armageddon.
     
    My objection to your  writing was that you used either the wrong words or do not understand that it was literal events that took place.  They were not merely spiritual events. 
    ARMAGEDDON FOR ME, IS A SINGLE, literal,  WORLD SITUATION which is a decisive battle between all human governments  and the incoming Godly government.. It does not last to the end of the 1000 years.  The reason being:  human rulership will have reached it's full potential  (which will prove once and for all, the corruption and futility  involved with human rule). Humankind will have reached its peak in science and its alienation from Jehovah. 
    Gog of Magog, at the end of the millenium, will be a similar united resistance movement against jehovah  but it is not a  second phase of "Armageddon".  It will be an attempt to take over with human rule..... just like Adam and Eve did.  But the scale of suffering and a great tribulation such as the world had never seen before, will not be associated with it. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    I do not lack any understanding. Of course - all the armies of the world cannot congregate physically at the valley of Megiddo.... it is geographically too small BUT  it does not portray a cornered position as you say.  It actually portrays a "decisive battle " where Jehovah's side wins the literal battle. 
    Even though the heavenly armies are fighting the battle - the bible portrays the literal corpses on earth which indicates it to be a literal event. Read Revelation 19.... the battle between christ and the coalition of earthly rulers. ..... it invites the birds to eat the corpses of people who are physically dead. ....... just as the time of Noah ..... breathing people will no longer be breathing. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    The slave told us that the war in heaven after Jesus was crowned was the first event leading up to Armageddon. It put satan on earth where he could war against the anointed.  This was one of the first of the progressive events leading up to Armageddon. 
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from C-D67 in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    I have given an answer to this inaccurate information - twice. You remove your post, as well as my reply, and then put your post up at a later date without comments. I do NOT agree with your posting but do not want to go through the hassle of putting up  a reply and it being removed - again.
    Watch the convention programme of this year again and you will see the progression of Armageddon.... it does not comprise spiritual events - except the literal war in the "spiritual realm" when Satan was thrown out of heaven. 
    Satan is literally destroyed at the end of 1000 years before Jesus hands back the Kingdom to his Father.
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    You have shown what you are sir.  You have been exposed as an  egotistical..... puffed up.....human being.   When someone does not agree with you .....you take the route of personal insults, false accusations and twisting of the others person's words to get a  cheap "win"' at any cost.  You protect your ideas asif they were the bible itself.
    Satan also quoted Jehovahs words and put a deceitful spin on it.... as he did with Eve.  Quoting the bible and putting false reasoning with it  - is not a truth. 
    I have always been polite and put some reply on your "icons to your greatness "  on this forum to get a conversation going.... but now I realized..... you are not interested in an honest discussion of your "not-so-well-thought out ideas" .... You do not want any discussion on this forum........of any of your teachings.
    You want your  words hanging here untouched  as a picture icon of your greatness.  And if someone upsets your apple cart and finds a dent in your reasoning -  you show a very ugly side to your personality.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    Thanks for the correction.  I had a memory lapse.  I often write very late at night due to  our time difference.  I also have bad eyes and do not see spelling mistakes.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    You are supposed to know it:
    Revelation 19: 19 onward " And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the one seated on the horse and against his army.+ 20  And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet+ that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast+ and those who worship its image.+ While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur.+ 21  But the rest were killed off with the long sword that proceeded out of the mouth of the one seated on the horse.+ And all the birds were filled with their flesh."
    1Sam 17: 46 " This very day Jehovah will surrender you into my hand,+ and I will strike you down and cut off your head; and on this day I will give the corpses of the camp of the Phi·lisʹtines to the birds of the heavens and to the wild beasts of the earth; and people of all the earth will know that there is a God in Israel."
    Birds of prey is a symbolic way of saying: real living corpses that can be eaten - meaning literal death.  
    Jer 7: 33
    "And the dead bodies of this people will become food for the birds of the heavens and for the beasts of the earth, with no one to frighten them away".
    These are figurative depictions of literal events that will take place = people will lose their lives and be viewed as  eaten by unclean birds.  
     
     
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    We agree on one important thing Pudgy - the cancel culture is sooooo stupid.  It comes from a pretense of false righteousness - when people think they have the moral high ground. They exhibit a fake piety and sometimes publically.
    Humans do NOT have the moral high ground - only Jehovah's opinion on any moral issue  is the one that matters. We are all absolutely equal under God - so we will be in unity and love if we agree on Jehovah's standards.  The alternate way, yes they can be considered and even  debated to some extent....... but it will be flawed and does not lead to true righteousness. 
    Jehovah allows us to evaluate options - righteous and unrighteous ones..... and hopes that we choose His moral way when the choice-time comes.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    Ok, I referred to our recent 3- day convention which you are not taking into consideration. . My language was not perfect, I agree, just as yours does not properly define literal and spiritual events. BUT the point was that the throwing of satan out of heaven was  actually (correction - not the first ) the 2nd step leading to the time of  the end / or the period leading up  to Armageddon. I loved the idea at the convention where they tied SEVERAL  literal events (or steps) to the eventual culmination in Armageddon. 
    The first step was that Jesus was crowned in heaven. This was a literal event that took place in the spiritual realm..... (NOT A SPIRITUAL event.) ...... Jesus thereafter "hurled" Satan down. This was in the spiritual realm but was a literal / real event.....after this there are several signs/ steps and events which culminate in Armageddon.
     
    My objection to your  writing was that you used either the wrong words or do not understand that it was literal events that took place.  They were not merely spiritual events. 
    ARMAGEDDON FOR ME, IS A SINGLE, literal,  WORLD SITUATION which is a decisive battle between all human governments  and the incoming Godly government.. It does not last to the end of the 1000 years.  The reason being:  human rulership will have reached it's full potential  (which will prove once and for all, the corruption and futility  involved with human rule). Humankind will have reached its peak in science and its alienation from Jehovah. 
    Gog of Magog, at the end of the millenium, will be a similar united resistance movement against jehovah  but it is not a  second phase of "Armageddon".  It will be an attempt to take over with human rule..... just like Adam and Eve did.  But the scale of suffering and a great tribulation such as the world had never seen before, will not be associated with it. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    This was the first step which gradually leads to Armageddon. There are several steps to Armageddon. The turning against Babylon the Great is also one of the steps. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    I do not lack any understanding. Of course - all the armies of the world cannot congregate physically at the valley of Megiddo.... it is geographically too small BUT  it does not portray a cornered position as you say.  It actually portrays a "decisive battle " where Jehovah's side wins the literal battle. 
    Even though the heavenly armies are fighting the battle - the bible portrays the literal corpses on earth which indicates it to be a literal event. Read Revelation 19.... the battle between christ and the coalition of earthly rulers. ..... it invites the birds to eat the corpses of people who are physically dead. ....... just as the time of Noah ..... breathing people will no longer be breathing. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Armageddon comes in two phases...   
    The abyss is a "condition"  but Armageddon is not a condition.... It is a literal world situation..... a physical, not a spiritual event. Yes it has spiritual as well as physical consequences. 
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