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  1. Pudgy, there’s no challenge. You’re wanting people – JWs who have left the organization - from all over the world to meet in one physical location. The reality is, it won’t happen. In that sense, you’ve got nothing, if that’s what you are looking for. We don’t plan on begging for contributions to construct churches throughout the world. It is irrational to believe that Pearl and I will meet at mile marker 1,500, to gather in some building to worship. It is irrational that our friends from Brazil will go even further to meet with us; or those from Africa, from Italy, and various states in the U.S. Jesus said there is not a “mountain” that you can look at, or enter, that God will put his blessing on in the last days. We worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:21-24 We have communication between each other, online. It is available to all. I never choked, I told the truth. This is the time of "small beginnings". Zech 4:10,11-14,6-9
  2. You and Arauna have been hanging out together for too long. 🙂 If it is comparing Boy Scouts to the Nazis, then...why is it that anointed who stand up for truth, who reject ALL the false teachings of the GB, reject their fleshly pursuits, are then disfellowshipped, which is a spiritual "death"? (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) One's family is ripped away from them, one's only life that they had known, comes to a halt. You know these things. Exjws have committed suicide by judgment put upon them by elders. How many have suffered as victims never given justice at the hands of elders? Boy Scouts? Really? No. As a composite entity, they are the "man of lawlessness" that "sits"/rules over the Temple of God. The definitions in the scriptures are clear. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 13:5-7) This isn't hatred, it is truth. (Rev 18:4-8)
  3. How about one sentence and you tell me if you can "understand". The elder body is the "disgusting thing standing in the holy place" - the "abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand)" Matt 24:15
  4. If one of your elementary-aged children was told by his teacher that he was “gifted”, and was invited to gather with other gifted children to expand their interests in an auxiliary class, would you prevent your child from joining in? As a JW, I didn’t prevent my son from attending a gifted class. I knew he had a need to learn more than the normal class provided for him. The teacher didn’t consider this need as a rebellious act against the unity of her normal classroom. Contrary to what the elder body/GB says, it is the anointed saints who have received gifts of the Holy Spirit – not elders. (Eph 4:1-8,11-14 – notice the footnote on verse 8. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph+4%3A1-8%2C11-13&version=ESV) To state that these anointed cannot ‘hope to bond’ with each other to study God’s word, as it rebels against the unity in place in the congregations, is tyranny. (Matt 24:48-51) To say that the elders have manmade authority to “represent” these priests, is blasphemy, according to the word of God. (Ezek 44:6-9) Who has given themselves authority over the minds and hearts of the anointed in your organization? (Matt 20:25-28) Should any of us remove the freedom of an individual to study God’s word with whom they choose? The following are references, not another paragraph 🙂 “hope to bond” - w16 January p. 24, par. 8 “We Want to Go With You” “represent the royal priesthood” - w02 8/1 p. 13, par 18,20 “Loyally Submitting to Godly Authority” https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545
  5. I was recently reflecting on the hundreds of miles my husband and I must have hiked, on trails throughout the western states during our married life. I surely miss those times, whether they were easy or strenuous. For me, hiking is a compelling wonder; leading one to fresh scenery, or enjoying once again, beloved destinations that had become dear to my heart. With each trek, we would stop at the trailhead, checking that we had brought the necessary supplies for the journey, securing the laces on our boots, and adjusting the straps of our packs before heading up the trail. I can envision how each of the physical members of my body worked synergistically as I progressed along the path. The swing of the arms, bending of the knees, flexibility of the ankles, with full support of one bodily member toward another; and if one falls out of sync or needs attention from experiencing an unpleasant discomfort, all members rally forth to keep the body moving. It is our mind, that gives our body the message to attend to an ailing member, isn’t it? As we set out on foot, it is our mind that keeps the goal firmly in front of us; we anticipate what lies ahead, what we will experience when beginning the trek. When an obstacle appears on the trail - perhaps a log to cross over, a snowpack to traverse, or a fast flowing stream to wade through – each body member takes note and seemingly shifts into higher gear to provide balance and support to all other members. I can think of a few precarious and dangerous close calls when hiking, and although we may have finished the trail with physical mishaps, we were not deterred from setting our eyes on another hiking trail to experience. Looking at the spiritual side of things…Since coming out of the organization, I have learned and will continue to learn, what the “Body of Christ” is all about. It is comprised of bodily “members” anointed with Holy Spirit to become “living stones” of the Temple of God, with Jesus as the chief cornerstone. (Isa 28:16; John 2:19,20; 1 Pet 2:5,6,9;Eph 2:20-22; Matt 16:18; Col 1:18) Under their Head Jesus Christ, all members should work harmoniously as witnesses of divine truth; effectively assisting each other to bravely face and conquer the stumbling blocks that Satan throws before them. (Mal 2:7; Heb 13:15) (John 15:19,20; 2 Cor 6:3;1 Thess 3:2,6-8; 1 Pet 4:12-14; Eph 4:29; James 4:7) Each member should be guided by the “mind of Christ”, never by the minds of men. (1 Cor 2:16; Gal 1:10-12; 2 Tim 4:3,4) Yet, what is the case in the organization? Men who have broken their covenant with God, have “captured” His holy people. (Ezek 16:59; 2 Cor 11:1-4; Col 2:19; Heb 12:15; Rev 8:10,11) They are spiritually chained to the leaders’ fabricated “visions of their own mind”. (Deut 13:6-8; Jer 23:16; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 21:24;1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) Although Jesus told us to store up “treasures” in heaven and not on earth, Satan has used these men, whose obvious aspirations are their earthly and fleshly based treasures, to formulate his attack against the last remaining members of Christ’s anointed Body. (Ps 52:7; Prov 11:28; Hab 2:5; Matt 6:19-20; 1 Pet 2:11; Titus 2:11,12; Col 3:2; Gal 5:16; 2 Cor 11:13,14; Rev 9:1-4;13:1,2,7,11,12; 16:13-16; 20:7-9; Isa 29:3) These men preach the doctrine of a “different Jesus” that would conveniently condone their wicked desires. (Gal 1:6-7) Satan’s promised gifts in exchange for worship, are power, dominion, and riches; and the governing leaders possess it all. (Luke 4:5-7) It is an incredible act of deceit and idolatry that has entrapped all of the anointed remnant over the years. (Deut 4:23; Lev 26:1; Luke 22:31; 1 Tim 4:1; Rom 1:25; Col 2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev 13:4,10; 16:13-16; 20:7-9) Yet, even the anointed are not active members under their new “head”/master. For a certain, they are nothing more than oppressed slaves. The governing leaders have appointed another body to serve and administer their doctrines. Of these, “a total of 20,595 ordained ministers” are found at their worldwide branch facilities. (1 Cor 7:23; Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 13:16,17; Rev 13:16,17) (Eccl 10:5-7; Ezek 16:32,33; Matt 24:48-51) When refreshing our religious vocabulary, we find “ordained” is defined as “to invest officially with ministerial or priestly authority”. Sixty years ago, the Wt. stated that no man or earthly organization can authorize ordination, but only God through His Son. Gal 1:11-12 was their supporting scripture. Today, it is a brazen written decree, documented before the Almighty God and penned at the hands of spiritual harlots, that the “ordained” elders “represent” the authentic God-ordained anointed priesthood. (2 Chron 13:9; Jer 5:24; 3:3; 17:1; Ezek 16:2; Hos 10:13; Dan 8:24; Matt 24:48-51; Rev 17:1,2) A quote from a recent study article focuses on the “representatives” of God’s priesthood under the holy covenant. (Gal 4:24,26,28) It stressed that supporting the elders’ decisions, even if they are not what JWs would “prefer”, preserves the unity among them. It is said that this shows trust in “Jehovah”, who trusts the elders to care for the congregations. So, if these decisions prove to be a lie and cause harm to JWs, apparently the congregation still thrives “when all humbly submit” to the errors of the elders. Does this make any sense? Can one thrive spiritually when misled by falsehoods? (Isa 3:12; Matt 24:4) Why would God truly “trust” these counterfeit priests to begin with, when He does not welcome stand-ins for His priesthood? To Aaron, God said “But, Aaron, only you and your sons may serve as priests. You are the only ones who can go near the altar or behind the curtain into the Most Holy Place. I am giving you a gift—your service as a priest. Anyone else who tries to come too close must be killed.” Num 18:7 (Heb 10:11-14,19-20; 1 Cor 3:16-17) As ambassadors of “Jehovah’s organization”, the elders are not representing the interests of God, His Temple, nor His priesthood; but only the decrees and doctrine of an idol. (Exod 23:13; Isa 40:25; Matt 6:24; Rev 13:4,15) This preservation of unity is presently the bread and butter of false prophets, and a deadly spiritual abomination committed not only against the anointed priests, but against the Father and the Son. (Ezek 13:19; 44:7-8; Dan 8:11,25; Matt 24:15-16; Mark 17:14; 2 Cor 2:17; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Ezek 23:49) As ambassadors of Christ, do his bodily members make the unified effort as they should, to surmount this act of idolatry set before them? (John 17:23; 2 Cor 5:20; 6:16; Rom 14:19) Do they protect the spiritual Temple of God from abomination as the priests accomplished toward God’s early sanctuary in King Uzziah’s day? (2 Chron 26:16-18; 23:6; Ezek 44:9; Acts 20:28; 1 Cor 12:25; Eph 4:11-13) Or, have they allowed their heart and mind to continue swallowing Satan’s lies, causing a retreat into silence as atrophied members of Christ? They are indifferent to the danger of not receiving their crown of life. (Isa 29:9,10; Matt 5:13; Luke 11:33; Heb 10:39; James 1:12; 1 Thess 5:3; Rev 3:16) These anointed are scattered “stones” left inert in the dust, with the truth they had once been given at their anointing, thrown down. (Isa 3:13-15; Dan 8:12; Luke 21:41-44; 1 John 2:27; John 15:4) Thus, the sanctuary, God’s dwelling in Spirit, has been trampled by an abomination standing within its midst. (Isa 29:1-4; Lam 4:17; Hab 1:6-7,9-11) Jesus had said, “my kingdom is within you”, “among you”; or, “in your midst”. (Luke 17:20-21; Heb 12:22,23; Rev 5:10) This kingdom of truth where the Spirit of God dwells, was present in his disciples’ hearts, as it should be with His holy people. (Luke 12:34) However, the cherished “kingdom” that resides within the hearts of God’s holy people and all JWs in the organization, is based on a physical organization spawned by fleshly lusts, and the false doctrine of men. (Exod 20:4; Dan 11:36-38; Rev 13:1-2,8; Zech 4:7; 1 John 5:19; Phil 3:17-19) It is a kingdom of lies, a fraud standing as a disgusting thing within their midst, and within the Temple/dwelling of God. (Mark 13:5-6,14-15; 2 Thess 2:3-4;1 Cor 3:16; 2 Thess 2:9-12; John 4:21-24) In the time of the end, a revolutionary change occurs. (Dan 12:1) Ezekiel’s vision of “dried bones”, provides a glimpse of an awakening, a coming to life of those anointed who yearn for truth, and choose to adjust their lives to the teachings of Jesus Christ. (Joel 1:6,7; Ezek 37:3-7,10; Rev 2:14,16; Isa 29:18-19) They tackle and successfully remove the idolatrous stumbling block before them. (Matt 21:21; Isa 57:14; Rev 11:1-4,7;13:15; 11:11; 12:10-11) They join with Jesus Christ as their Head. (Dan 12:3; Eph 4:1-6) By the Father’s mercy, this work of repentance and restoration begins with a prophet who wakes up; an “eye” of the Body is opened to the sins and the dead state evident among God’s holy people. (Rev 1:1; 10:7;Hab 2:1-3; Isa 58:1; Mal 3:1-3; 4:5,6; Matt 17:10-11;Luke 1:78-79; Eph 5:14;Rev 1:5) The call goes out to the other members, imploring them to wake up and join their Master. Jesus is once again present among his priests who desire to be taught by the mind of Christ, their ruling King. (Matt 25:1,5,6; Jude 1:3; Rev 3:3,20; Matt 25:7-10) This prophet acts upon the words of the apostle Paul - “The eye cannot say to the hand, ‘I don’t need you!” 1 Cor 12:21a A sure sign of a true prophet within the Body, would be one who strives to engage all members of Christ to support the Body according to the teachings of Jesus. Thus, ample truth would be available to those searching for it. (John 13:20; 15:5,16-17; Matt 24:45-47; 1 John 2:27) If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18 But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19 And if they were all one member, where would the body be? 1 Cor 12:15-19 The GB have chosen themselves to be the mind and eye of a counterfeit body, foreseeing visions of peace, security, and paradise, while promoting “the best life ever” to “dead”, inactive bodily members of Jesus Christ. Lam 4:17 Luke 11:34-36 The eye of the Body of Christ, is the prophets (Amos 3:7; Eph 3:4-5; Num 12:6; Heb 1:1:Rev 22:6; Ezek 3:17; 10:12; Rev 4:8) If the contemporary Body of Christ is lead by a bad eye (a wicked steward/false prophet/Harlot full of adultery – 2 Pet 2:14; Rev 17:2), that whole body will be thrown into darkness leading to Gehenna. The faithful are not to "tolerate" such an eye/false prophet (Rev 2:20; 2:2; 13:11,7,10; Col 2:8; 2 Pet 2:1-3; 2 Thess 2:1-3; Rev 2:2). We "tear it out" of the Body of Christ (1 Cor 5:13; Eph 5:11). This is done, by not looking back to her (Rev 17:18; 18:4; Luke 17:32,28-29,32; Rev 18:4; 11:8), as the eye of a lustful man may seek intoxication from a harlot (Rev 17:2; Isa 52:11) instead of his chaste wife (Prov 5:19) We are washed clean by the word (Eph 5:26; John 13:10), and through a faithful "clear" "eye"/prophet (Matt 6:22), C [and having the needed humility to weigh carefully, what is said by that one (1 Cor 14:29; 1 John 4:1; 1 Thess 5:20-21; 2 Cor 13:5) (Jer 26:5-6)], light returns to the body members that accept a good "eye" (1 Thess 5:19-20; Matt 10:41). Pearl Doxsey The event of the anointed gathering together outside of the organization, is a foregleam of what the entire Body of Christ with its members supporting one another, will provide in God’s Kingdom. (Rev 21:2-4) It is symbolized as refreshing rains, as lush grain growing on the mountains and a river flowing with life, reaching all who turn to the Father and Son for truth. This Body, as one in Christ, will reside among mankind on a cleansed earth, bringing further “healing to the nations”. (Deut 11:143; Isa 29:17; Joel 2:18-19,23-24; John 7:38; James 5:7,8; Rev 22:1,2; Ps 37:29) For now, these anointed are following the path Jesus set before us when he was on the earth. (2 Cor 4:8-10) Others have joined them, knowing that there will be temptations and persecution still to be faced, thrown at them by Satan. (1 Pet 4:12-14) He will attempt to knock us off the path of life, to make us turn around and return to our once apathetic state. (Heb 10:39) But we are well stocked on provisions from the marriage feast, our feet are shod with the good news of truth in Jesus. We adjust our stance, firmly shouldering our newfound freedom from the organization’s lies. (Matt 22:2,8-10; Eph 6:12-18; John 8:31,32) And as we carefully walk in the pattern Jesus did, leading to eternal life, we keep the goal in front of us, which is to bring glory and praise for our salvation, to the Almighty God and His Son, Jesus Christ. (Isa 40:30,31; Phil 3:20,21; 2 Cor 4:6 ) https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ - A Great Deception YHVH's Genuine Mountain Two Witnesses - "Lampstands" Last Harlot and Her Beast Pluck Out Your "Eye"
  6. The only earthly thing God was ever “linked” to, was His sanctuary, His Temple. That all changed with the coming of Christ. John 2:19,21 The only thing God is “linked” to today, is His spiritual Temple, His dwelling in Spirit, which is found in the anointed hearts. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17. The attempt to connect God with an earthly organization developed by man, is idolatry. “To whom will you compare me, or who is my equal?” asks the Holy One. Isa 40:25 AGAIN “To whom will you compare me or make me equal? Who will you measure me with, so that we should be like each other?” Isa 46:5 “Do not make an idol for yourself, whether in the shape of anything in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. Do not bow in worship to them, and do not serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, bringing the consequences of the fathers’ iniquity on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, 6 but showing faithful love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commands.” Exod 20:4-6 The organization, as all organizations are, was "created" by men. They are man’s doing, not God’s. He would not inspire men to establish one, when His Temple arrangement was initiated on the Body of His Son. And of course, no leaders of the Wt are inspired anyway. When men create their own ideology on how to worship God, they have transgressed His Word. Rom 1:25 - They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served what has been created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen. A JW will be hard-pressed selling their Watchtower on the day of judgment, in light of the above scriptures; because the scriptures nowhere, condone worship through an earthly, manmade organization that operates the same way as all manmade organizations in this world. And we know what the scriptures say about who has authority over this world. 1 John 5:19
  7. There are "nougats of truth", as I had said, and found in those books; and the Aid to Bible Understanding comes closer to those examples than the Insight books. As you read about the anointed as a spiritual temple, compare that with what GB G. Loesch has now said; that every JW is now, the spiritual temple. Which will you choose to believe? Are these changes toward more truth, toward a more brilliant "light"? Which offering of "food" will you love? These are changes that have led to full-fledged lies, just as the development of a frog begins with an egg, to tadpole, and eventually becomes the adult frog. Frogs plagued Egypt; lies by false prophets/GB, and the elder/organization are the plague facing God's anointed "kings of the earth" (Rev 1:5), and all JWs today. (Rev 16:13-16)
  8. You've left out the anointing, which is the "inspiration" of Holy Spirit. It is "poured" into the anointed heart, spiritually "writing" God's laws on their heart. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22; Heb 8:10; Isa 43:10) It is a spiritual "circumcision" of the heart. (Col 2:9-11) Why would they have these laws of Christ's teachings written on their heart?(Heb 8:4,5) Because they are priests of God who are to teach and serve the people. Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge, And people should seek the law from his mouth; For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts." They are the "living stones" of God's Temple/dwelling in Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5) Do you recognize the authentic priesthood in your organization? Why aren't they teaching? (Mal 2:7) Why isn't the GB working with THEM, the anointed, to serve proper food, instead of with elders who have not had the Holy Spirit poured into their hearts? (Matt 24:48-51) Since all anointed are "inspired" - unless they disobey Christ and leave him as their head, (Col 2:19), allowing men to lead them instead - then any prophet who would arise in the "last days", would also be inspired. Acts 2:17,18; Matt 17:11; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Rev 1:1-3 Get out the Insight on the Scriptures Books. Look up spiritual temple, the anointed, priesthood. Things have changed in the organization. Where one could once find nougats of truth, now none are left. (1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 16:13-16)
  9. We have examples in the Bible which show the anointing as miraculous. Acts 2:1-4; 10:44-46 The pouring out of Holy Spirit on an individual God calls to be His priest in this day and age, is no less miraculous. Since your leaders say they are "not inspired", then this proves they have left their covenant in Christ. (John 15:4-7) This is how spiritual harlots come about. (Hos 4:15; Rev 13:11,12; 17:1,2) Faithful to whom? The anointed cannot bond in the organization, as said by your "faithful slave", Arauna. They cannot serve under Jesus Christ, but must answer to men - the elders. A "faithful and discreet slave" is not a taskmaster, who requires full obedience to HIS spiritual food that continually fails, while disregarding all other members of the Body of Christ. Your leaders are "okay" with disfellowshipping God's priesthood for rejecting your leaders' spiritual food! 1 John 3:11,12; John 16:2; Rev 13:15 And, there is no chance of them being sealed while under the thumb of a wicked slave and the "man of lawlessness"/elder body. They are to come out of the organization and connect again, with Jesus Christ. Rev 18:4-8 “Pure worship” is unobtainable in the Wt. Again, the priests/living stones of God’s Temple, who must offer spiritual sacrifices of praise, are replaced and silenced by the elders not anointed. Are their “daily sacrifices” acceptable replacements to God? (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) "You shall say to the rebellious ones, to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Lord God says: “Enough of all your abominations, house of Israel, 7 when you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in My sanctuary to profane it, My house, when you offered My food, the fat, and the blood and they broke My covenant—this in addition to all your abominations. 8 And you have not taken responsibility for My holy things yourselves, but you have appointed foreigners to take responsibility for My sanctuary.” Ezek 44:6-9 In other words, the Temple/dwelling of God in the anointed, has been desolated by abominations – by elders not assigned by God to be His priests. Elders “stand” in a position that was assigned to the anointed. They judge God’s “special possession”. (Ps 105:15) “who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God” 2 Thess 2:4 The elders have taken their “seat”/ruling position as “representatives” of God’s priesthood. “Now when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be—let the reader understand—then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.” Mark 13:14 Those are the scriptures from God’s word, and there is no scripture to refute the obligation of God’s priests today to serve as priests. The apostles were priests, they taught the anointed what to do, they led in truth. They expected the anointed in that day to teach truth in Christ and BOND as one body under their Head. (1 Cor 12) Why would it stop with the advent of the Wt? No excuses backed by scripture, can be made by men , to support their arrangement. (Mal 2:7; Heb 8:4,5) JWs who love the elders, love the “arrangement”, will refuse to take note and continue to listen to words of a wicked slave instead. (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 16:13-16; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:15; Matt 7:21-23) This is the message to be given to God's saints in the last days. All with them, who can perceive this abomination are to get out. (Mal 3:1-4; 4:4-6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; Zech 4:6,7,11-14; Rev 14:6-12; 18:4-8)
  10. Have you experienced an anointing to know this? It is an unforgettable supernatural event, and those events are "miracles". People fondly call the birth of a child a "miracle". An anointing is being spiritually "born again". Any act of God through His Holy Spirit, is a miracle. John 3:3-8; 2 Cor 1:21-22; 5:17
  11. Gotta wait for the fat lady to sing to see how that works out. She’s not doing it just yet but she is clearing her throat for a mighty bellow. It really might be you clearing your throat, since Pudgy was asking this question to Arauna.
  12. I am sure you are basing it on 1914. a lying date that Wt. has locked themselves into, the core backbone of their organization, and which requires their own projection of a date for Armageddon. As Splane said in the linked video, "we have be absolutely sure, that everything fits" - everything regarding their 1914 lie. That hasn’t worked out well for them yet. Two “offspring” were spoken of in Gen 3:15, a righteous offspring/seed and an evil offspring/seed. The Greek word for “generation” can mean “offspring, progeny”. Progeny – “a descendant or the descendants of a person, animal, or plant; offspring.” The Greek word for “generation” comes from another word meaning to be born, “of women giving birth to children”. Gen 3:15 – I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.” Matt 3:7 - But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, “You offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Jesus’ words can refer back to Gen 3:15. He said of them, “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44 Under their father, they are offspring of the devil. All offspring of the devil can be said to be one spiritual generation, yet in a sense it has “overlapped” since the very beginning. If it could be traced, then say for instance, an ancient evil family always producing evil offspring down to this day. Literal generations after generations were evil, yet they also can be said to be under one father – one spiritual generation or offspring of Satan. If we go back to the word that the Greek for “generation” comes from, (which is gennaō) it is found in this scripture: "No one who has been born (gennaō) of God practices sin, because His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin continually, because he has been born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother and sister." Two spiritual generations are mentioned there that span the ages – children of God, and children of the devil. The anointed are also one called generation of children under God. Even though He called them to be His priests, they were not ,and are not, all faithful. They are facing the harvest and have since the first century. (Ps 110:1,2) Matt 24:34 - "Truly I tell you, this generation (of spiritual children) will certainly not pass away until all these things take place… …Until all the spiritual signs take place that Jesus had just shared with his disciples. That is the generation of anointed. Within that spiritual generation spanning two thousand years, two other spiritual “generations” emerge because a division takes place – those who remain faithful to God as His children (wheat) and those who reject their covenant with Him and become offspring of the devil (weeds). Matt 13:30; 1 Cor 11:19 Not until their judgement has been decreed, including the very last anointed ones, will that generation then “pass away”. Rev 3:2,3; Matt 24:43; 1 Thess 5:2,4; 2 Pet 3:10; Rev 16:15 If anyone can discern the difference between literal generations spoken of in the Bible, and the spiritual, then Jesus’ words become clear. ,
  13. So, you dropped your comment about the severity of lying? It doesn't apply to the organization's leadership? The foundation of the organization should be examined by every JW - it is your legacy. It is said by the organization that Rutherford and his companions fulfilled the “two witnesses” of Rev. 11:1-3. In Rev 11:7, it says, “Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them” Because of the printing of “The Finished Mystery”, his book was condemned in 1918 by the US Attorney General, T. Gregory , not by the UN. On June 27, 1918, Rutherford went to prison. He was released on March 26th, 1919. The League of Nations was not established until January of 1920. It lasted for 26 years, until 1946. The UN was established on October 24, 1945. Because of the timing of Rutherford in prison, it cannot be said that the “two witnesses” of Wt. were killed by the Beast – either by the League OR the UN, since the League was established the next year and the UN/”beast” was not operating for 26 years after Rutherford was released from prison. “One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.” Rev 13:3 Was there really a head wound to the UN, if both the League and the UN were both active at once, for a short time? You cannot disconnect the prophesy of the “two witnesses” from the prophesy about the Beast. But, as it stands, they are disconnected in Wt’s doctrine. The “heads” of the Beast are rulers over it. It 'seems' that it was actually Rutherford, head of the organization, who suffered the fatal wound but was later “healed”. I am sure every JW at the time, was “filled with wonder”, believing that God saved the organization. The WT is the Beast of Revelation 13:1,2, and is directed by the Beast with “two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” Rev 13:11,12 – false prophets. The "clouds" signify "witnesses". Heb 12:1 - "Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us" God's authentic witnesses are his chosen priests. Isa 43:10-12;44:8; 1 Pet 2:5,9 Witnesses are messengers, messengers are priests (Mal 2:7) as well as "angels". Just look up the Greek meaning of "angel". “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Matt 26:64 Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” 50 Jesus said, “You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that.” 51 He then added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.” John 1:49-51 "Jacob left Beersheba and set out for Harran. 11 When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. 12 He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it." Gen 28:10-12 "Again, when he brings his firstborn into the world, he says, And let all God’s angels worship him." Heb 1:6 How do you dispute God's word?
  14. Do you think God wants people to be comforted by delusions? These men propose to be God's spokespeople and guided by His Spirit. This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord." Jer 23:16 The picture I attached is just one of many acts of vision from the minds of Wt's leaders. Those people on the cover and many more with them, were filled with false hopes. Did they draw comfort from the false hope when on their death bed? Usually repetitive liars know that they are not telling the truth. "But which of them has stood in the council of the Lord to see or to hear his word? Who has listened and heard his word?" I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied. 22 But if they had stood in my council, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds." Jer 23:18,21,22
  15. Can you see it yet? Do you realize how responsible the leadership of your organization is, for placing stumbling blocks before God's holy people - Jesus Christ's "kings of the earth"? Mal 2:8; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10 Prophets who lie are spiritual harlots, because they have broken their covenant with God. Ps 78:10; Rev 13:11,12; 17:1-5
  16. An IP address gives the server's location. Yes, if someone wanted to, they could track down the physical address, unless they use a VPN which changes the IP address. But you got off on a tangent! Pudgy said, "Apparently the “True Annointed” do not have a congregation, or names, or addresses", which is why I said, "I meant a physical address" when you made mention of the IP address. If we didn't all live in various parts of the world, we would make the effort to meet in one's home, but doing that would not qualify as an organization; otherwise it could be said that a group of people who may attend an event in a home, become an organization. A building should never be understood as a "building of worship", since we are to only worship in spirit and truth. The physical "place of worship" was dissolved when Jesus stated his words in John 2:19-22 We don't need a building or an earthly constructed hierarchy of an organization to have the spirit of Christ with us. Matt 18:20 I used scripture. Does scripture lie?
  17. I meant a physical address. You would be very surprised at what "time" they waste causing havoc...through an IP address. But, there is starlink.... If "they" were actually "false prophets" wouldn't Wt leave them alone as they do all other "false prophets"? But, truth is a threat to one's powerful status, which should reveal just where the false prophets are actually are found. An organization? No. A building? No. "But an hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth. Yes, the Father wants such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and in truth.” John 4:23,24
  18. I've also mentioned Rachel Roman, who's letters and cards are being mailed earth-wide to branches, khs and JWs, and also have linked to my name on fb. Pearl has no brother name "Ortho" that I know of. She only, was a JW in her family; if you are thinking of a JW named "Ortho Doxsey". Spiritual food at the proper time. The scroll of Revelation is opening, Christ has already received and opened the scrolls,, and he shares that information with his "servant"/messenger (Rev 5:5; 1:1); "perfect" has not yet arrived until all written in the scroll, is fulfilled. 1 Cor 13:8-10 Jesus promised "truth" to those "branches" who remain in him. (John 15:5 Unlike the Wt's "new light", which is a backtracking, rejection and complete overhaul of a doctrine - sometimes returning to an old teaching and labeling it "new light"; "truth" is consistent light which only grows brighter with understanding. It never leaves one in the dark.
  19. Names have already been mentioned here, but what good is an address if those they meet with online are from all parts of the world? Besides, Wt would make them a direct target, if they had an address.
  20. Insider information - the announcement that the great tribulation has finally arrived, perhaps?
  21. I did look at Malachi. I quoted Malachi. You are talking of abandonment of headship to men who have no authority over anyone. Like the elder body? None of us, are to be slaves to men; whether male or female. Gal 1:10 I'll miss your downvotes when you leave, Allen; and I can always count on some sort comeback from you that I either answer or ignore. Honestly, I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't find you as "toxic" as the Preacher. Hope you aren't facing some sort of physical difficulty coming up.
  22. The anointed priests that are in the Wt., are the true anointed - the general population of JWs are not God's chosen people. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9) But, there are true anointed who have been disfellowshipped for rejection the organization and its falsehoods. However, are those in the Wt "faithful anointed"? That is the whole message presented in the post. I have given link after link to a "true" and "faithful" anointed, even in this post. She's there to answer questions. We have groups on facebook as well. Maybe you are looking for a physical building or another "mountainlike organization? John 4:21-24 Maybe you want men to organization another religion?
  23. GB member Geoffrey Jackson recently categorized those who would be written, removed, or not written, in the “book of life”. He mentioned the word, “remembrance”, saying it was found in Malachi chapter 3, but avoided reading it. “At that time those who feared the Lord spoke to one another. The Lord took notice and listened. So a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who feared the Lord and had high regard for His name.” Mal 3:16 Perhaps we should concentrate on the context around this scripture, which will describe the state of God’s chosen priesthood today. The anointed servants of Jesus Christ have abandoned his headship, to serve an evil slave and the slave’s idol/organization. (John 15:4; 1 John 2:28; Eph 1:22,23; 1 Cor 6:15; 2 Pet 3:17) (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:1,2,11,12,4) It is true; a JW may speak of Jesus, even claim to obey him, yet disobediently choose the words of powerful men, over the words of Jesus Christ. (Prov 4:1,2; 2 Tim 4:2-4; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Cor 11:4; Matt 15:9) This is the case with God’s holy priesthood, the “living stones” of His Temple dwelling in Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) As a result, their individual “sacrifices of praise” have been silenced. (Num 28:6; Heb 10:11;13:15; Dan 12:11) The priests have willingly let go of this obligation to God, without upholding and protecting not only God’s Temple dwelling within their hearts, but to uphold and protect the truth in Jesus Christ. (Num 3:10;2 Chron 23:6; 26:16-18; Ezek 44:16; Dan 8:11,12; Mal 2:7,8; 2 John 1:9-11;2 Tim 2:15) Someone else is telling them what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. (Ezek 44:8; 2 Thess 2:3,4; 1 Cor 3:16;2 Cor 11:20; Dan 7:7;Rev 13:6) Their role as God’s teachers has been eliminated by counterfeit elder “priests” “representing the royal priesthood”. (Mal 2:7) God’s “kings of the earth” have been overcome by the deceptive power over them. (Rev 1:5) (Rev16:13-16; 20:7-9) They are admonished to be an unobtrusive presence, and to remain scattered. (Dan 9:7; Joel 3:2; Zech 1:18-21) In other words, the royal priesthood has been abased by the organization. (Lam 2:17; 3:28,29; Dan 9:8; Joel 2:17; Dan 8:11; Luke 19:43,44; 1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10) The priests are tolerating men who demand obedience to an authority that has no backing in God’s word. (Deut 27:9,10; 2 Chron 13:9; Ezek 44:15,16) They must adhere to regulations beyond scripture, spoken as coming from “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization” (Exod 32:8; Deut 12:32; Prov 30:6; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:1,2,15) The Pharisees were guilty of this practice, and Jesus condemned them for it. (Mark 7:9) These laws are connected to the organization’s existence, and necessary to preserve an unscriptural dominance and dual rulership, of false prophets and their elder army. (Dan 2:33,42; Rev 9:1-4; Rev 13:11,12) Christ’s chosen priests follow in the footsteps of spiritual Harlots, false teachers/false prophets, cowering under the leadership’s “empty philosophy”. (Jer 2:17; 9:9; 5:31; 1 Cor 6:15-17,19; Gal 1:10; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) This was predicted to occur in the last days – Christ’s “kings of the earth” became captive to “demonic expressions”. (Rev 1:5; 16:13-16; 17:1,2) The governing leaders’ consistent failures of understanding and applying God’s word correctly, must be excused and disregarded by all; not questioned, to preserve their unrighteous authority. (Luke 22:24-27; Matt 24:48-51) Since when has it been accepted by God to tell continuous falsehoods, and it not be considered a repetitive evil, committed by God's people? (Deut 18:20-22; Jer 23:16; Matt 7:15-20) The book of Malachi explains it this way – You have wearied the Lord with your words. Yet you ask, “How have we wearied him?” When you say, “Everyone who does what is evil is good in the Lord’s sight, and he is delighted with them, or else where is the God of justice?” (Mal 2:17) Also recently, a governing leader stated that Russia appears to be the present “king of the north” spoken of in Dan 11:41, that “enters the land of the decoration”. He implied that this means Russia would interfere in a significant way with “the activities of God’s people”, meaning all JWs. The statement was made concerning the organization’s ban in Russia, but with the outbreak of war in Ukraine, they have intensely promoted Russia as “king of the north”. The “land of the decoration” is also referred to in other Bible translations as the “beautiful land”, the “glorious”, “promised”, “pleasant land”; all referring to the early nation of Israel, and now to God’s “Israel”, His “inhabited homeland”. (1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23; Eph 2:22) Their “king of the north” teaching clashes with their doctrine that the anointed are the locust-scorpions of Revelation 9, who bring their “stinging message” to the world. No matter how one perceives it, locusts devour land. In the book of Joel, the “northern” locust army ,destroys God’s “beautiful land”. (Joel 1:6;2:3) God allowed this to happen because of their rejection of His commandments. This has a spiritual significance for our day, and ties in with the activity of the locust-scorpions of Rev. 9. (Joel 1:13;2:12,13; Dan 9:10,11; Mal 3:8,9; Rev 9:3,5) So yes, there is a conundrum that exists with their two doctrines. #1 - We've got one worldly entity apparently interfering with JW activity, as well as devouring a literal land - the Ukraine. There are approximately 129,000 JWs in Ukraine. Considering that there are supposedly 8 million worldwide, has this “king of the north” impacted JWs “in a significant way”? Only 1.6 percent of JWs have been affected by Russia’s invasion. However, the prophesy of the king of the north accurately comes against the holy priesthood, not all JWs, which reduces the percentage tremendously. If the number of partakers at last’s year’s Memorial indicates the number of anointed worldwide inside the organization, only about .26 percent of JWs are anointed, with the rough chance that there may be a handful found in the country of Ukraine, as well as Russia. What a weak show of force by Wt’s “king of the north” against Daniel’s holy people, the saints, in the last days! (Dan 10:14; 7:21,25) How will Russia find what is left of the 20,746 anointed scattered and unidentifiable, within the entire JW rank? (Lam 4:1; Luke 19:41-44) #2 - We also have the anointed priesthood appearing as foreboding locust-scorpions - not as a “beautiful land”, or a “land of decoration” - but "devouring" the world where they preach with their scorpion-like stinging message, and causing apparent fear and anxiety on their listeners. (Joel 2:6,7; Rev 9:5-6) How successful have they been at devouring and stinging these last two years? Has their message ever reached every country in the world? As the organization trumps up their king of the north in flaming red on their website, their doctrines are deflating, in the presence of truth. So, what is the truth? The truth is that the locust-scorpions’ target, is the same target as the king of the north; God’s anointed priests/”kings of the earth”. (Rev 1:5; 5:9,10) These “kings” are the people whose activities have been removed, the “daily sacrifices” of praise to be offered to God. (Num 28:3; Dan 8:11,12; 1 Pet 2:5; Heb 13:15) These anointed priests are those who have been “devoured” by the leadership in the organization. (Jer 2:3) They must bow down to the governing leaders and their army, “man of lawlessness”, that “sits” in the Temple of God, ruling over the “living stones”, who are God’s “own possession” – His promised land. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) The elder “forces” have boldly "entered" God's "beautiful land" and dwelling/sanctuary of His Spirit. Russian leaders cannot remove daily sacrifices from a priesthood they know nothing about. (1 Cor 3:9; Ezek 44:6-9; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) “King of the north” – “And forces shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation.” Dan 11:31 “Man of lawlessness” - “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” Mark 13:14 JWs are taught that various entities are destined to come against them before Armageddon is finished; Gog of Magog, the Wild Beast from the Sea, Russia as the king of the north (but they change this at a whim). Incredibly, the “man of lawlessness” has no role against JWs in their playbook, and yet this identity ties all the above, together. These illustrative symbolic meanings for the same event in the last days, are deliberately blamed on the world of politics, by Harlots/false prophets who have left their covenant with God. They have purposefully confused JWs, when all these titles solely point to the organization and its dual leadership. God’s promised land has been deceived by Satan’s masterwork, to wipe out the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed”. ( Rev 12:12,17; Ezek 21:21,22; Rev 20:7,8) Through this deceit, they have fallen into sin and idolatry, as foretold in the scriptures. (Matt 24:24,25; 1 Tim 4:1; Jer 2:4,5; Rev 13:4). And because of this transgression, God’s Temple has been desolated, defiled by the elder body “man of lawlessness” who “represent the royal priesthood”. (2 Thess 2:3,4) By perceiving this change of command, it should be clear how the “daily sacrifices” of God’s chosen priesthood have been eliminated by those who claim to represent them! “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!” Wt 02/8/1 p. 13,14 Back to the book of Malachi. God rebukes the priesthood for neglecting their priestly duties. (Mal 1:6,7,10; 3:8) It speaks of a messenger coming as “Elijah”, sent by God to His priests in the last days. (Mal 3:1-3; 4:4-6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3) This messenger reveals the spiritual corruptive influence among God’s priests, and stresses the need for their repentance. (Mal 3:7-9) But, do they all listen? Are they all written in the “book of remembrance” that the governing leader spoke of? (Mal 1:4) As much as we desire it, can you imagine every anointed one and all JWs, rejecting the idol and its falsehoods? (Zech 2:6-9,11; Rev 18:4-8; 14:6-12) Read Mal 2:1,2; Dan 9:11 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mal+2%3A1%2C2%3B+Dan+9%3A11+&version=CSB Under the spell of demonic expressions of the soothing promise of peace and security, God’s priests have allowed the arrogant evil slave and the man of lawlessness, to overcome them by their flood of lies. They are “drunk” on the Harlot’s wine. (Jer 6:13-15; 1 Thess 5:3; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:15; 17:1-5) Read Mal 3:14,15 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mal+3%3A14%2C15&version=CSB It is incredible that G. Jackson even dare mention Malachi chapter 3, since it describes perfectly, what the Harlot is up to – Mal 3:5 - “I will come to judge you. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers, lying witnesses, and those who cheat workers out of their wages and oppress widows and orphans. I will also testify against those who deprive foreigners of their rights. None of them fear me,” says the Lord of Armies. God pleads with His people to resume their spiritual offerings that have been cut off, and to repent, acknowledge, and follow His decrees in Jesus Christ. He promises to pour out His mercy upon them, leading them to the spiritual bounty of truth in His Son: "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty. 12 “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the Lord Almighty. Mal 3:11,12 John 15:1-8,16 Yet, only those who “fear the Lord” respond to the messenger’s call whom He sends. (Zech 1:4-6; Dan 9:17,18; Mal 3:16) That book of remembrance is the same one, as the Lamb's book of life. That book contains the names of those who through integrity and courage, have earned God's favor and spiritual protection (Rev 3:5; Phil 4:3; Isa 4:3; Rev 20:12) That book belongs to the Lamb (Rev 13:8; 21:27), because these are those to whom his blood will apply...(John 1:29; 1 Pet 1:19; Rev 12:11; 7:14; 1 Cor 5:7) Pearl Doxsey “They will be mine,” says the Lord of Armies, “my own possession on the day I am preparing. I will have compassion on them as a man has compassion on his son who serves him. 18 So you will again see the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve him.” Mal 3:17,18 At https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ Basis for Judgment Where are the Wild Beasts? Iron and Clay The Great Tribulation - What and Why?
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