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Well, that false truth is being updated. After this repetitive strong teaching, why would "Helper" Robert Luccioni even hint at the possibility of the organization not being around?

"The man of sin will come with the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous and wonderful signs. But they will be lies. 10 He will use everything that God disapproves of to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. 11 That’s why God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe a lie. 12 Then everyone who did not believe the truth, but was delighted with what God disapproves of, will be condemned. 2 Thess 2:9-12 GWT How does God "send" the delusion? 1 Kings chapter 22 gives us an example.

Yes, I hear that word, but translated to mean - "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves." Matt 7:15 Their true identity as wolves appears when we dare question their teachings and their "authority"...as "slaves". Jesus said to them, “The kings (elders) of nations have power over their people, and those in authority call themselves friends of the people. ("beloved GB") But you’re not going to be that way! Rather, the greatest among you must be like the youngest, and your leader must be like a servant. Who’s the greatest, the person who sits at the table or the servant? Isn’t it really the person who sits at the table? But I’m among you as a servant." Luke 22:25-27 GWT

I do believe the earth will be cleansed of all evil, but there's more to it. There is a physical manifestation devised by Satan to divert the attention of the anointed in the WT (and all), and a spiritual manifestation based on truth battling against lies. I thought of posting a long article on here, but if you go directly to the blog link, the scriptures pop up, which does not work in the interests of this forum. The article was written by the husband of Pearl Doxsey, an anointed one. http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/

You’re entire statement is very confusing. God, organization, and the beloved GB, are melded into your concept of obedience and love for God; which are the pitfalls of centralized religion, centralized authority. To worship in spirit and truth (John 4:23,24) requires one’s heart to be fully committed to God and Christ, not to an established, worldly religion. (they are all worldly religions) But the spiritually immoral “kings” at 1 Kings Drive in Warwick, have replaced Jesus Christ. This is obvious by no mention of him in your comment. (1 Sam 8:6-20; Ps 2:1-12 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Sam+8%3A6-20%3B+Ps+2%3A1-12&version=WEB ) Anyone, whom Jesus Christ sends to speak “truth”, which is “good fruit”, should exalt him, and not themselves – and certainly not an organization they have created. (John 13:20; Matt 7:15-20; Luke 14:11; 2 Cor 10:4,5; 11:20) Any who exalt themselves, reject both the Father and the Son. Even Jesus Christ didn’t exalt himself.(Heb 5:5; Phil 2:9-11) Obviously, in your vision is only the GB; oh, and the elders not anointed. Well, where are the rest of the anointed ones? Could it be that Jesus has something to tell you through them? (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; John 14:26) If that anointed Body could unite in truth under the Spirit of Christ, think of the spiritual blessings all JWs would receive. (Rom 12:3-8; 1 Cor 12:12-26) This is what God expects, but your beloved GB direct the elder body not to allow this. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:6,7,11,12) What will JWs do when these prophetic harlots/”kings” are gone? (Hos 13:9-11; Jer 4:30; Ezek 23:35,37-41,45,29,30; Rev 17:1,2,6,12,16,17) I suppose the GB will choose which buildings will survive Armageddon. This appears to be their choice, since @Srecko made very good points under … https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/88359-witnesses-sell-elim-buys/ Buildings come and go, according the kings’ whim. Your confusion about preparation for Armageddon is interesting. As a JW you are told to let go of this world’s pursuits; while the GB are in pursuit of all that this world provides. Armageddon takes place in the valley of decision – in the deep recesses of our heart. We can choose to rely on men and their vacillating whims, ideas, and teachings; or we follow and obey the teachings of only…Jesus Christ. (Joel 3:14)

"What Type of Evidence Can Create A Consciousness of Guilt Argument? Consciousness of guilt is the inference that the defendant knows that he is guilty of a crime because he has taken one or more of the following actions after it. These actions include: Fleeing from the crime scene or jurisdiction, False alibies, Changing or altering personal appearance, (Matt 7:15; 24:24; Acts 20:29; 2 Cor 11:13-15; Rev 13:11) Hiding or destroying evidence, Bribing a witness, Intimidating a witness or even killing a witness." http://gambonelaw.com/what-is-consciousness-of-guilt-and-why-its-a-problem/

Perhaps, it is "another spirit" that they are perceiving as "holy". (1Tim 4:10) They are so blind. It is true that the Greek scriptures are for the anointed to learn from; and for all of us who believe in the scriptures, they are also about the anointed. They describe how this new form of worship “in spirit and truth” will be manifested in the Kingdom to come. (John 4:21-24; Rev 21:3,4,20-24; 22:1-3) (Matt 7:15-20) Jesus’ teachings were revolutionary to a basically stubborn people. He invited all to believe in him. Whether we are called and found faithful to be part of the new “temple” arrangement, or “called” to receive the understanding of his teachings, and how the completed Temple will arise, Jesus promised that all obedient and faithful believers would receive eternal life. (Luke 11:28; John 8:31; 1 Thess 2:13; Acts 16:31) We see the transition that the apostles had to make from the law covenant, to its fulfillment in Christ’s coming. Paul received visions of the Kingdom to come, and I have always wondered what all it was that he saw. (2 Cor 12:2-4) Also, I have wondered what “books” could be written containing Jesus’ acts while on the earth. (John 21:25) There’s so much for us to find out in the Kingdom. I never learned the full truth about the Body of Christ in the organization, or what Zech 4 meant when it says the “capstone” will complete God’s spiritual dwelling. (Rom 8:19-22; Zech 4:3-7,14; Rev 11:3,4; 7:13-15) There is little to nothing on the JW site about the capstone ("top stone") relating to the appearance of the “two witnesses” preaching in sackcloth. This is the hiding of truth. The anointed in the last days, fall into deceptive captivity (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) whereas those sealed ones previous to their appearance, never succumbed or were never held captive, to false worship. They were not deceived by harlots, and remained spiritual “virgins”. (Rev 20:4; 14:4) But as we see, the anointed remnant does fall victim to deception and lies, and leave off worshipping God with their who soul, heart and mind.(Rev 13:4,11,12; 17:1) Their allegiance is to a “Beast” that makes war with them and conquers them. (Rev 13: 7) It blasphemes the “tabernacle” of God. (Rev 13:5,6) The false prophet that directs it, authorizes this “different” beast to “kill” those who reject its identity. (Dan 7:23; Rev 13:14,15) Anyone with open eyes would see that the organization blasphemes, or simply “insults” the anointed with its regulations against their joining together, and against acting as God’s priests, now. How is it, that the “priestly” GB are allowed to act as priests, while all other anointed cannot? (1 Pet 2:5,9) Their deceiving tale follows up with soothing lies about the anointed residing in spiritual security as long as they remain faithul to Jehovah('s organization). It’s absolutely ludicrous, but it sells! It is accepted that “Jehovah’s organization” knows what’s best for them. (Lam 4:18; Rev 9:3,4) But, this is how they are trampled as prophesied; and as your comment reveals, it’s clearly happening in the organization. They have been subdued by the “man of lawlessness” elder body standing/sitting/ruling over the Temple dwelling of God. (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) Yet now, I can almost envision the GB using the events in Russia and elsewhere, as fulfilled signs of the “man of lawlessness”/Beast (Rev 13:1) (“the coalition of nations”) trampling their temple – the idol called “Jehovah’s organization”. Another possible distracting lie. In order to be found acceptable before God, the anointed must turn back to Jesus Christ, their Head. (Rev 2:4,5; 3:17-19) They must have their “robes washed in the blood of the Lamb”. (Rev 5:9,10; 22:14) No one - not the GB, not the elder body - has received authority from God to expect obedience to their direction, except His Son and the Head of the Body. (Eph 1:22) No JW should be kissing the feet of the organization’s leadership. But they do, which is no different than Catholics fawning over the pope and his hierarchy. Mr. Rouse, Legal Representative for the Watchtower: “I am general counsel for the National Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses out of Brooklyn, New York. Ordinarily, I wouldn’t be here, but this is one of our 13,000 congregations in the United States. We are a hierarchal religion structured just like the Catholic Church. And when the order from the Pope comes down in the church defrocking a priest and kicking him out, he no longer has any say in any matter in the local parish priest — in the parish.” STRUCTURED ("designed, assembled, arranged") JUST LIKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! Does this mean that God borrowed Satan’s organizational skills to create His organization? Or rather, did Satan borrow his tried and true idea from another religious deception to create a new one, his masterpiece of deceit, this time against the anointed? (Rev 12:4) The GB are the ‘greatest showmen on earth’. (Matt 7:15; 2 Pet 2;1; 2 Cor 11:13-15) They and their predecessors have been involved in the most deceptive, demonic, theatrical, “showmanship” against God’s holy people…ever. (Rev 16:13-16; 20:7-10) How else could they tell such whoppers and get away with it? (1 Tim 4:1) And look at how many tickets they have been successful at selling. It is not for nothing that the “preaching work” all of these years, was spent “house to house”, finding and searching out the anointed to be tested and sifted by Satan. (Luke 22:31) Jesus admonished HIS disciples, NOT to go “house to house”. (Luke 10:7) So, whose disciples do JWs belong to? (Matt 2:7,8,13,14; Rev 17:6) The Sign of the End

I thought the same thing when I read the year text. They are baptized in the name of an organization - in the name of an idol. Why do JWs say they follow scripture when it is evident that they follow the doctrine of men instead? And why, do they make excuses for their doctrines? So he said to them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far, far away from me. 7 And they worship me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ 8 Abandoning the commandment of God, you hold fast to the tradition of men.” 9 And he said to them, “You splendidly ignore the commandment of God so that you can keep your tradition. " Mark 7:6-9

Is the Watchtower/”Watch Tower” Bible and Tract Society, an organization? Yes. Is it “Jehovah’s organization”? Well, to most JWs, they are one in the same. Their “dedication” once baptized into it, is a vow they must keep. (Wt 17/4 pp 3-9) While JWs have submitted to various rules, regulations, changed teachings over the years, it all boils down to allegiance to what their leaders teach and ‘decree’, at any given place in the organization’s history. While they’re told not to have children, not to marry at one point; that there are no more anointed to arise after 1935; (oh wait, they changed that!), not to fall into the snare of riches and personal enrichment through education…… …… the governing leaders have been busy developing their organization with dedicated monies and free labor. They have enriched and educated individuals to work for the benefit of the organization’s survival, and have told their members that all has occurred at the generous hand of God. (Luke 4:5-8) They have picked the best of the JW crop to come to their aid, in building their empire of falsehoods. I am not sure why JWs feel the need to always compare the mistakes made by "Jehovah's spirit-directed organization" to Christendom's mistakes. I don't believe I know of any organization in Christendom that says it is "spirit-directed" by God. (Rev 13:15) So...what's the comparison, especially since this "mighty mountain" is said to rise above any other organization? A "watchtower" described in the Bible was where the watchman positioned himself to see what danger was ahead. At least one of the organization’s “watchmen” seems to have disconnected from the “Watchtower”, when Gerrit Losch stated, “I do not answer to the Watchtower. Watchtower does not have, and never has had any authority over me.” Well, it enacts plenty of authority over all JWs who willingly bend to its decrees. But! Does this mean that all GB watchmen are in agreement with Losch? Or, that there are now only 7 watchmen in the “Watchtower”? Losch seems to have rejected the assignment that God supposedly has given him. “I post watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem; they should keep praying all day and all night. You who pray to the Lord, don’t be silent!” Isa 62:6 Will all seven bail from that position when they must answer for their corrupt dealings and false prophesies? (Ezek 33:6) The “four living creatures“ of Ezekiel 10:14 are the primary prophets – “watchmen” – who give warning messages from God, of impending calamity to come upon His people. The organization teaches that these creatures signify “attributes” of God. (“Pure Worship” p.238) How can that be, when they are found giving “glory, honor and thanks” to Him, around the heavenly throne? (Rev 4:6-9) Has the WT forgotten, that there is no form in heaven or on earth, which can depict Almighty God? (Isa 40:18,25; 46:5; Deut 5:8; Exod 20:4; Rom 1:25) Do these manifestations of Almighty God fall down prostrate before the "Lamb"? (Rev 5:8; 1 Cor 15:27,28) Pearl Doxsey https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-four-living-creatures.html How can it be, that the watchmen for the organization didn’t read those scriptures and understand that the four living creatures, are watchmen and prophets? (much like David Splane’s awkward presentation about Wt's ignorance of Joel 2 and the identity of the locusts) Speaking of barking dogs… Isa 56:10,11 – “Israel's watchmen are blind, all of them, they know nothing; all of them are mute dogs, they cannot bark; they dream, lie down, and love to sleep. These dogs have fierce appetites; they never have enough. And they are shepherds who have no discernment; all of them turn to their own way, every last one for his own profit.” The last watchman sent to God’s holy people is identified as preaching with the symbolic message of Moses – proclaiming God’s laws of truth; and the message of Elijah – the need to repent in the spirit of prophecy. (Matt 17:1-7,11; Rev 11:1-3) This fourth living creature/watchman/prophet, relays the understanding of Revelation’s scrolls and how they apply to the downfall of God’s people during the Great Tribulation. (Rev 1:1-3) The anointed priests and all, are to come out of this covenant/promise of death - “Babylon”, or they will share in the sins of the Harlot who, with her “Gentile” army, has trampled the anointed “living stones” of God’s Temple. (Dan 7:23;8:24,25; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:7; 11:1,2) God’s people, are the “kings of the earth” from “nations, tribes, people, and tongues” who receive the message. (Rev 1:5; 5:9,10; 7:4) They have been deceived by Satan’s last attempt to destroy those under the New Covenant “woman”, as each anointed member labors to "give birth” to the Kingdom of life. (Gal 4:24-26,28; Rev 12:1-4) The oracle of the wilderness of the sea: As storm winds passing over in the Negev, it comes from the desert, from a frightful land. 2 A hard revelation is told to me; the treacherous deals treacherously, and the destroyer destroys. Go up, Elam; lay siege, Media! I put an end to all of her sighing. 3 Therefore my loins are filled with anguish; pangs have seized me, like the pangs of a woman giving birth. I am too bent to hear, I am too dismayed to see. 4 My mind staggers; fear terrifies me; the twilight I desired brought me fear. 5 Set out the table in order! Spread out the rugs![g] (“watch in the watchtower”) Eat! drink! Rise up, commanders; smear the shield! 6 For the Lord said this to me: “Go, set a watchman in position. He must announce what he sees. 7 Whenhe sees riders, a pair of horsemen, riders of donkeys,[l] riders of camels, then he must listen attentively, paying attention, paying special[p] attention.” (“a severe revelation”) 8 Then the watchman[r] (“lion”, one of the 4 faces of the four living creatures) called, “Lord, I am standing on the watchtower continually by day, and I am standing at my post throughout the night. 9 And look at this! A man’s a chariot is coming, a pair of horsemen!” Then he responded and said, “It has fallen! Babylon has fallen! And all the images of her gods are smashed on the ground!” 10 My downtrodden people and the son of my threshing floor, I will announce to you what I have heard from Yahweh of hosts, the God of Israel. Isa 21:1-10 Rev 14:8 - “And another second angel followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, who caused all the nations to drink from the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.” Rev 18:2 - And he cried out with a powerful voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and it has become a dwelling place of demons and a haunt of every unclean spirit and a haunt of every unclean bird and a haunt of every unclean and detested animal.” And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out from her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins, and so that you will not receive her plagues, 5 because her sins have reached up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes. 6 Pay back to her as she herself also paid out, and pay back double according to her deeds; in the cup that she mixed, mix double for her. 7 As much as she glorified herself and lived in luxury, give to her so much torment and mourning, because in her heart she said, ‘I sit as a queen, and am not a widow, and I will never see mourning!’ 8 Because of this her plagues will come in one day— death and mourning and famine— and she will be burned up with fire, because the Lord God who passes judgment on her is powerful!” (Jer 23:29) If we remain in the darkness of no understanding, which all of Wt’s failed predictions are, and refuse to turn toJesus Christ for the light of truth, we are remaining in “Babylon”, the "mother" covenant of death. (Isa 28:1-22; Rev 17:5)

Am I wrong in calling your leaders, "watchmen"? After the Kingdom was established, Jesus appointed a small group of men to serve as the faithful slave. (Matt. 24:45-47) Since then, the faithful slave, now known as the Governing Body, has done the work of a watchman. It takes the lead not only in warning of “the day of vengeance” but also in proclaiming “the year of Jehovah’s goodwill.”—Isa. 61:2; see also 2 Corinthians 6:1, 2. Pure Worship p. 127-128 Again, WHO has appointed your watchmen? "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." Deut 18:20-22 Scripturally, anyone has the right to reject your watchmen, since they have proven themselves as not appointed by God. We are not to be afraid of them. For the GB to disfellowship someone for following scripture, shows that they are spiritually immoral harlots. Rev 13:11,12; 17:1,2

Oh right. The barking dog scenario. In other words, when God appoints a watchman, that one is bound to make mistake after mistake after mistake...when sounding the alarm. And God and Jesus overlook the mistakes, simply because you believe the organization continues to be guided by God. But that's not how God's word describes a watchman appointed by Him. "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and you must give them warning from Me." Ezek 3:17 "If the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?" (1Cor.14:8) None of the Armageddon calls by the organization proved to be... A clear call From God WHO has appointed your watchmen? It wasn't God.

That’s it! That is the game played since beginning and what attracted the anointed and millions of others, from day one, until now. (Matt 24:4-6; Luke 21:8,9) All of the signs were and still are, taken literally; and Armageddon was and still is, taught to begin at any moment. So the organization became the only source of security, the only source of spiritual peace. (Ezek 13:8-12; 1 Thess 5:3) It is pounded into the minds of its members that everyone on the outside of the mountain-like organization, will die. Most definitely, this is the use of evil cult-like tactics. All who put faith in the organization, are putting faith in a repetitive broken record of lies. But JWs willingly “move ahead” with the organization no matter what suffering it has committed to its members, and what gross lies of promise it has made. Gosh, what an incredible act of idolatry which has entrapped all of the anointed remnant over the last hundred years. (1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16; 20:7-9) The apprehension of displeasing God is magnified, through displeasing the organization. “If we object to something done by the body of elders or criticize the way some matter is handled, we are being disloyal to Jehovah’s organization.” w74 7/1 pp. 407-413 “How can we aid our brothers in prayer? As we approach the universal war of Armageddon it is vital to stay close to Jehovah’s mighty organization.” w72 6/1 pp. 328-333 Stay close, stay loyal, stay faithful…to the Father and Jesus? No! to the organization…that claims to have brought God’s people out of spiritual “Egypt”/Babylon. “So we need to abandon the “present wicked system of things,” the antitypical “Pharaoh the king of Egypt and . . . his crowd.” We need to put ourselves on the side of Jehovah’s organization.” w77 5/15 p. 313-314 Now when the people saw that Moses delayed coming down from the mountain, the people gathered together to Aaron, and said to him, “Come, make us gods that shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.” 2 And Aaron said to them, “Break off the golden earrings which are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people broke off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand, and he fashioned it with an engraving tool, and made a molded calf. Then they said, “This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!” Exod 32:1-4 http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/

You’re saying that God and His laws in Christ legalized the organization’s existence and worship, even though just one of the false teachings during that time was based on a book written by Russell – “Universal War Near”. How soon was that war to take place? "...the scriptural evidence and the physical facts strongly indicate that such witness work is now almost done; and when it is done the universal war will begin. Universal war is absolutely certain to come and that soon, and no power can stop it. ...during the few remaining months until the breaking of that universal cataclysm the powers that rule the nations of the earth will continue to make treaties and tell the people that by such means they will keep that world peace and bring about prosperity. (Universal War Near, 1935, p. 3, 26-27) This was the same time period when it was admonished not to marry and have children, and the word of God supposedly backed this teaching. Now, for someone who hates looking backward at old teachings, how can you say that your worship is legalized by God, when you refuse to look at the false teachings that occurred from the birth of your organization? And if JWs excuse the vast record of falsehoods, by giving leeway to their leaders for their “mistakes”, who are they ultimately obeying, God and His laws in Christ, or men and their crooked decrees and teachings? Since when does God’s law permit lying? Since when is God’s name glorified by a lie? The God I worship does not legalize lies. He does not acknowledge false worship. I believe JWs should intensely consider who the god they worship, really is. Rev 13:1,2,11,12 This is what the Lord says: I, the Lord, made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself. I spread out the earth all alone. I cause the signs of false prophets to fail and make fools of fortunetellers. I make wise men retreat and turn their knowledge into foolishness. Isa 44:24b,25 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/obey-men.html

Four times the amount! Impossible for men who cannot compensate a victim of child abuse...for the single amount asked, and even that without a fight. With the GB, it is like this Pharisee: To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ 13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ 14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:9-14

It looks like the reason that God will destroy all apostates, is because the organization is the “envy of any corporation”, according to the elder in the video included in the news article. The organization has no peer and no rival. And of course, the “preaching work” is done out of love for neighbor and “the sanctity of life”. The sanctity of life stops with any who stand against this Beast. Forget what Jesus said about loving your enemy. (Matt 5:43-48) What would it be like if the GB said, “we’ve made mistakes, and we’ve mislead people. We need to realize what damage we’ve done to many who believed in our teachings that proved to be false. Perhaps we should make amends with those who have lost faith in us – in our organization. Perhaps we should look closer at the teachings of Jesus”. No. It has never been this way, and it never will. “People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?” “The second beast (false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image (“spirit-directed”) of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.” Rev 13:4,15 https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/web-extra-jehovahs-witnesses-contact-government-officials-businesses-with-message-of-hope/

Oh Screcko, they're just saying they're grateful. 🙂 They've got this terrible habit of feigning piety.

The following quote bears repeating, posted two days ago, on another JW forum: Please see the study article, “Their Refuge–A Lie!” in the June 1, 1991 Watchtower, noting paragraphs 1, 10 and 11. Paragraph 1 calls Christendom “that apostate religious organization.” Why apostate? Paragraph 10 asserts that “she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations–this despite the Bible’s warning that friendship with the world is enmity with God.” To support that assertion, paragraph 11 quotes an unnamed “recent book” which reports that “no fewer than 24 Catholic organizations are represented at the UN.” How were such organizations represented at the UN? The unnamed book quoted in paragraph 11 is New Genesis by Robert Muller. (See attachment #1.) The sentence immediately preceding the portion quoted by Watchtower states, “All major world religions are accredited to the United Nations as non-governmental organizations.” Why did Watchtower omit that significant statement? In the same year as that 1991 study article, the Watchtower Society also became accredited to the United Nations as a non-governmental organization, and served as publicity agents for the UN for the next 10 years–reapplying each consecutive year–until the alliance was exposed by the Guardian newspaper in October 2001, whereupon Watchtower withdrew its membership. (Watch Tower admits its affiliation to its Branch Committee in attachment #2.) Notice that Watchtower’s letter refers to the Guardian article as “published allegations by opposers,” yet later states that “we are grateful that this matter was brought to our attention.” No mention, however, is made of the June 1, 1991 study article. According to a public statement issued the UN’s Department of Public Information (UN/DPI), registered NGO’s had to “share the ideals of the UN charter” and “have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences.” (See attachment #3.) What is Watchtower policy regarding individual JWs who do what their organization did? “A person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as becoming part of an organization whose objective is contrary to the Bible, and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. So if one who is a Christian chose to join those who are disapproved of God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he has disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” (Sept. 15, 1981, Watchtower, p. 23, par. 15) “In joining the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. . .Hence for one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to become a member of a so-called “Christian” association would amount to apostasy.” (Jan. 1, 1979, Watchtower p. 31) According to the standard by which it judged Christendom to be apostate, and in light of Jesus’ words at Mathew 12:37 that “by your words you will be condemned,” should the Watchtower Society be viewed as an apostate religious organization?

"inflamed statements" by the WT. And you provided the list, which we are to "understand" and accept that they had a valid role in Wt's teachings? What? Their only purpose today, is to reveal them for what they are - false teachings. Yes, his comment is a meager attempt at damage control. This reminds me of Jesus' warning in Matt 16:6,12 “Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees...Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Luke 12:1 calls this "yeast"/teaching, hypocrisy. I was thinking about the contrast of the use of the word, "yeast" in both this scripture and in Matt 13:33 "He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.” Yeast transforms dough through living fermentation, creating heat. When added to flour and water, bread is produced. The Pharisee's teachings infiltrated every fiber of " bread"/spiritual food they produced and taught the people. God's word became corrupted. Mark 7:6,7; 1 Cor 5:7 "You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9 “A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.” Gal 5:7 All of those quotes you gave us, were persuasion tactics, found in unfit food/bread, already consumed. Do JWs realize that everyone in the organization, including their leaders, consumed "empty philosophy"? Col 2:8 Which "spirit" was responsible for heating up those expressions - those hypocritical "teachings"/yeast? Wicked men harbor a wicked spirit. (1 Tim 4:1,2) Who would be ignorant enough to treasure stale "bread"? Why does the organization defend its larder of unfit stale, moldy, "bread", not even fit to feed the birds? Jesus is the "bread of life", formed from "living water" and "wheat". (John 12:23-26) He is filled with the Spirit of truth. (John 7:38; 14:6; Phil 1:19; Rom 8:8,9) His pure teachings transform, even inflames those who accept and teach them, as the teachings of salvation. This is how the Kingdom of God will grow. John 6:35-37 - Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away."

Are you promoting the premier brochure "What is God's Kingdom"? Is this the good news that you are referring to? Because again, it is promoting 1914 - the date tied to WT prophesy that you question as true. "The sign that Jesus gave, along with Bible chronology, helps us understand that God set up his Kingdom in heaven in the year 1914. * At that time, he installed his Son, Jesus Christ, as King. (Psalm 2:2, 4, 6-9) They didn't use Psalm 110:1 as they commonly do. Maybe because people are reading their Bible and continue to Psalm 110:2 (1 Cor 15:24-28) Maybe the GB must hide the fact that Jesus began his reign while on the earth, since 1914 is a core teaching that can't be eliminated. There could be a huge upheaval - an exodus as a result. That would not be good news at all for your leadership. But die-hards will remain - those who trust their leaders as the origin of "new light". The blame for belief in a falsehood/'error' will fall on those who left the organization, since it will be promoted that they are the ones who lost their "faith" in the spirit-directed organization; subsequently, even though they reject the lie, your organization will say they reject God. Matt 21:5; John 1:49; 18:36,37; Luke 17:20,21; 11:20; Luke 22:69; Ps 110:1,2; 1 Cor 15:24,25; Dan 2:44 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+21%3A5%3B+John+1%3A49%3B+18%3A36%2C37%3B+Luke+17%3A20%2C21%3B+11%3A20%3B+Luke+22%3A69%3B+Ps+110%3A1%2C2%3B+1+Cor+15%3A24%2C25%3B+Dan+2%3A44&version=NKJV We can't claim to be "for truth", and tolerate a lie, in order to preserve one's allegiance to an organization. We can't say we are preaching "good news", when we know that the message contains lies. As Elijah said, “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” But the people answered him not a word." 1 Kings 18:21

My neighbor made an interesting comment about her husband. She said, regarding his below par choice of foods, that he still looks fit and strong; I suppose you could say he has a strong muscular “core”, but this will not guarantee a healthy life if he doesn’t eat right. That was her point. Healthy spiritual food, sets in place one’s spiritual “foundation”. We build on it from there. Don’t you see that not only did Luccioni compare Jesus with the GB, but he is excusing the GB’s failures while at the same time, it is said that Jesus and God guides their decisions through Holy Spirit? Jesus expects lasting food, "fruit that remains", to be provided through those whom HE sends, not men who twist their words and place the blame always for failures…somewhere else! (John 15:16) Luccioni said it is the wicked who twist Jesus’ words. Yes it is. What a pitiful plea he put out there, imploring one's faith and devotion in the GB, to remain "steadfast". All to preserve an organization with its foundation built on falsehoods. (Matt 7:26) “But know this: Hard times will come in the last days. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, proud, demeaning, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, irreconcilable, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, without love for what is good, 4 traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to the form of godliness but denying its power. Avoid these people. 6 For among them are those who worm their way into households and deceive gullible women overwhelmed by sins and led astray by a variety of passions, 7 always learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these also resist the truth. They are men who are corrupt in mind and worthless in regard to the faith. 9 But they will not make further progress, for their foolishness will be clear to all, as was the foolishness of Jannes and Jambres.” 2 Tim 3:1-9

Luccioni is comparing the GB to Jesus and to his apostles. He says that many found Jesus' words to hard to bear. Jesus, the Son of God, the King, is being compared to men who utter false prophesies. When will blasphemy come to end, from this organization. He states faith and a spiritual "core" is needed in God's word, and also in the 'WORD" of the GB. Really. He says, it is the wicked ones who cannot take hold of the following burdens. Let me quote this man: “TODAY WICKED MEN AND IMPOSTERS USE EXACTLY THE SAME TECHNIQUES. AND ITS’ ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. THEY USE LIES AND MISREPRESENTATION. THEY LIE ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH CHILD ABUSE. HOW WE CARE FOR THE VICTIMS OF CHILD ABUSE. THEY TWIST STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE… REGARDING OUR STAND ON BLOOD, LOYALTY TO FAMILY. DISFELLOWSHIPPING. THEY CAPITALIZE ON WHAT THEY PERCEIVE AS ERRORS. PERHAPS DOGMATIC STATEMENTS WE MADE IN THE PAST REGARDING A BIBLE PROPHESY OR OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIME OF THE END, AND THEN WE LATER CHANGED IT. THEY ALSO PUT A NEGATIVE SPIN ON CHANGES THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND. SEE WHY WE SIMPLIFY DID REASSIGNMENTS IN 2015. A NEW EXPLANATION OF THE GENERATIONS CHANGES AT WORLD HEADQUARTERS. WHAT’S THE RESULT, WELL SOME ARE SWAYED BY THESE THINGS. THEY’RE STUMBLED, THEIR KNOCKED DOWN. IT’S TOO HEAVY FOR THEM TO CARRY." I CAN SEE WHY. THAT IS A LONG LIST, THAT WOULD MAKE ANYONE LOSE EQUALIBRIUM. JESUS CHRIST SAYS, "Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matt 11:28 His message was simple to begin with. It didn't need to be "simplified" after screwing with people's lives...for decades, by telling "dogmatic statements regarding a Bible prophesy." And the disciples that Luccioni called upon to also compare with your GB's mistakes? Here, for you, the man who cannot tolerate scripture, although your speaker "dogmatically" repeatedly pointed to his corrupted version of the Bible, as necessary to preserve your, and all JW's spiritual core. "Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him: We ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be easily upset or troubled, either by a prophecy or by a message or by a letter supposedly from us, alleging that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s temple, proclaiming that he himself is God." 2 Thess 2"1-4 Where does this message, this prophesy about the coming of Christ originate? It is with those wicked ones, who compare themselves to the apostles - your GB - your entire leadership from the birth of your organization and rise of the elder body. Ask Luccioni, what is the Temple of God, and who "sits"/rules and exalts himself above these "living stones". Dear Tom, Comedy, story making and ignorance of God's Word in Christ, will not win us points when we must account for every EMPTY/DISCARDED/WORTHLESS/IDLE word we have spoken before Christ. Words that proved to be lies. Matt 12:36,37 https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/

Some songs are worth repeating over and over. Those that they are intended for, may actually hear the lyrics.

Such a flippant remark, as if God doesn't hear; especially when HE stated: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.: Deut 18:20,22 After their long lineage of failed prophesy, they didn’t stop with 1975. These are prophesies as well: 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Wt. Jan. 1, 1989, p. 12 [bound volume changed "20th century" to "day"]) "The countdown that has proceeded for some six millenniums now nears its zero hour. So close is it that people who were alive in 1914, and who are now well along in years, will not all pass off the scene before the thrilling events marking the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty come to pass." Survival into a New Earth (1984) p.184 1992 "Today, a small percentage of mankind can still recall the dramatic events of 1914. Will that elderly generation pass away before God saves the earth from ruin? Not according to Bible prophecy. 'When you see all these things,' Jesus PROMISED, 'know that he is near at the doors. Truly I say to you that THIS generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' - Matthew 24:33, 34." Wt May 1, 1992 page 3: The Year That Shocked The World) "Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the “great tribulation” in which the present wicked world will end." Reasoning from the Scriptures p.97 And then, we have this spiritual “Reasoning”… 1993 "Further, the widely circulated booklet Millions Now Living Will Never Die presented the view that in 1925, God's purposes regarding the restoring of the earth to Paradise and the resurrecting of the faithful ones of old would begin to be fulfilled. ... The year 1925 came to its conclusion, but the end was not yet! Ever since the 1870's, Bible Students had been serving with a date in mind - first 1914, then 1925. Now they realized that they must serve for as long as Jehovah wishes." (Watchtower; Nov. 1, 1993; p. 12) It interesting that they didn't mention 1975 in that quote. With your leaders, once a false prophet, always a false prophet. They continue to “prophesy” falsely, today. Concerning who comprise “this generation”, in 1995 it is said, "Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term “this generation”, which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their “blind guides” who together made up the Jewish nation. ... Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics." Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.14,20 No, no no! THIS is what Jesus meant: 2008 - "As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of contemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur." This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." Watchtower 2008 Feb 15 p.24 But wait! Evidently, he meant… 2010 - "He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10 And…where are you and David Splane with this today? Just who are the “blind guides” anyway? 1 John 4:1 - "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

It is so sad, that these men do not exalt Jesus as David did; but instead, exalt themselves. (Ps 110:1) David will always be exalted. Rev 3:7;5:5; 22:16