Witness

Christ is the source of peace and unity among his true followers. He is the Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6 Among his anointed ones, it is to be the bond between them. Eph 2:13,14; 4:3-5; Rom 1:7; 5:1 They are to remain connected to their Head. Eph 4:15 But, when men enforce their own fabricated brand of peace, and it is adopted over the peace Christ offers, the bond is broken. Again…. In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal. 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity. W 16/1 p. 24 This is the type of expected obedience you are speaking of, which has no basis in scripture. The GB and their elder body do not have the right to impress their opinion on how God’s priests are allowed and not allowed, to worship – or to anyone, for that matter. Rev 2:9 Col 2:16-19 - “In view of these tremendous facts, don’t let anyone worry you by criticising what you eat or drink, or what holy days you ought to observe, or bothering you over new moons or sabbaths. All these things have at most only a symbolical value: the solid fact is Christ. Nor let any man cheat you of your joy in Christ by persuading you to make yourselves “humble” and fall down and worship angels. Such a man, inflated by an unspiritual imagination, is pushing his way into matters he knows nothing about, and in his cleverness forgetting his head. It is from the head alone that the body, by natural channels, is nourished and built up and grows according to God’s laws of growth. 20-23 So if, through your faith in Christ, you are dead to the principles of this world’s life, why, as if you were still part and parcel of this world-wide system, do you take the slightest notice of these purely human prohibitions—“Don’t touch this,” “Don’t taste that” and “Don’t handle the other”? “This”, “that” and “the other” will all pass away after use! I know that these regulations look wise with their self-inspired efforts at worship, their policy of self-humbling, and their studied neglect of the body. But in actual practice they do honour, not to God, but to man’s own pride.” Paul wrote these words; was he expressing his ego, or words of truth received from Christ? He wasn’t referring to secular rulers who would push their agenda upon the anointed Body, but anointed ones who had left their bond with Christ – false “christs” who deceive the “elect”. Matt 24:24 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 1 Cor 7:23 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? Rom 6:16 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ. Gal 1:10 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” Rom 8:15 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Gal 5:1 The Bible’s instructions are very clear. Our obedience is to be given to Christ and the Father, not to an organization that devises its own set of rules, and allows judgment to come upon any who break them. Isa 33:22; Rev 13:15 This is why we are told to “come out of her, my people”. Rev 18:4-8 The delusion JWs are under, was prophesied to “conquer” the anointed and those with them. They, JWs, are who express the cry of “peace and security”, as you are doing; sourced in the spiritual “wine” offered by a false prophet/Harlot and her Beast/organization . 1 Thess 5:3; Rev 12:1,2; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:1,5-8,11,14-17; 2:20 From the same article: “Even though God has invited them to go to heaven, they will receive their reward only if they remain faithful. Satan knows this, and he uses “false prophets” to try “to mislead” them. (Matthew 24:24)” What better way to captivate a people but to tell the truth,yet hide where the danger lies? Amos 3:5 Col 2:8; 1 Pet 5:8; Rev 13:9,10 “So anointed ones do not think that they are better than others. They know that Jehovah does not necessarily give anointed ones more holy spirit than he gives his other servants. And they do not feel that they can understand Bible truths more deeply than anyone else.” The anointed are residing in the midst of “false prophets”(look at your prophetic record); and men appointed by men, who apparently have more understanding of scripture than what an anointing of Holy Spirit poured into one’s heart, can provide. Mal 2:7; Eph 4:11-13; Col 1:28; 1 John 2:20,27; Heb 8:10 Who is it, that is being egotistical in a most manipulative manner? Who is it, that is feeding the anointed with lies about themselves? I wish all of you could see, that it is your leaders. Listen to me, you people who know righteousness, you people who have my teachings in your hearts. Don’t be afraid of being insulted by people. Don’t be discouraged by their ridicule. 8 Moths will eat them like clothing. Worms will devour them like wool. But my righteousness will last forever, and my salvation will last throughout every generation. Wake up! Wake up! Clothe yourself with strength, O Lord! Wake up as you did in days long past, as in generations long ago. Didn’t you cut Rahab into pieces and stab the serpent? 10 Didn’t you dry up the sea, the water of the great ocean? You made a road in the depths of the sea so that the people reclaimed by the Lord might pass through it. 11 The people ransomed by the Lord will return. They will come to Zion singing with joy. Everlasting happiness will be on their heads as a crown. They will be glad and joyful. They will have no sorrow or grief. Listen to this, you humble people who are drunk but not from wine. 22 The Lord your God defends his people. This is what your master says: I’m taking from your hand the cup that makes people stagger, the bowl, the cup of my fury. You will never drink from it again. 23 I will put it in the hands of those who made you suffer. They said to you, “Lie down so that we can walk over you.” So you made your back like the ground and like a street for them to cross. From Isaiah 51

A message from a former Bethelite.

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I am not sure what you agree with in my comment, but to admit you agree, and then continue in supporting men’s opinion to maintain peace at all cost as vital for the life of the organization, appears to be more important than God’s Word; and shows where your loyalty is. (Rev 13:4) I would like to think you will agree that opinions really mean nothing; whereas God’s Word is truth, and not to be taken lightly. Ps 119:160; Rom 3:4 There are two hypocritical faces to the organization. One that promotes the “best life ever” through the promise of peace and unity, and which must be meticulously maintained among its members. The other, as an organization that fights for its rights in the court systems within the world. They gather every sympathetic and influential ear to come to their aid when they suffer, such as in Russia. Do you view this as an act of haughtiness? I doubt you do. You probably consider it a necessity to preserve your peaceful environment and the unity of your people. (Jer 6:14;1 Thess 5:3) When the team of WT lawyers are fighting on the nation’s fronts, most likely you feel they are representing “God’s people” for their good. And, it takes money, time and determination to keep up the fight for the organization’s rights to exist. However, within the WT itself, are two “nations” of people; spiritual “Gentiles”, and spiritual “Jews” - “Israel” - who are the “special possession” of God. These “Jews” are God’s authentic people, and also representatives of His Temple. Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 In the time of the end, God’s people are “conquered”; not by any nation in the world, but by the “nation” that rules over them in the organization. There is little distinction anymore of who spiritual “Israel” is, among you. The “Gentile” elder body is exalted, while God’s people are to remain humbled under their rule; in fact, all JWs are to remain humble under the “Gentile” rule, as designated by your “benefactors”. Jesus’ pointed to the possibility of this development in Luke 22:24-27 While JWs believe Armageddon will rage among the nations, and nations will come against the organization; the truth is, it is God’s special possession that are being “conquered” right within your peaceful haven, now, as scripture clarifies. 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 13:1,11,15 Jesus’ servants who have been spiritually “killed” by “Gentiles”, preach of the conquering against their people – spiritual “Israel”. Matt 10:18; John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7-10; 13:15 This is not an act of pride, but a requirement put upon them, by God. The Kingdom will not arrive under the rule of “Gentile” elders, but through the last “living stone” of the Temple sealed in place. Zech 4:6,7 The organization and its elder body is not the catalyst to salvation, but it is through acknowledging the true Temple of priests who are refined by “fire” through God’s Word, and who show Christ as our salvation. (Matt 10:40) Acts 4:12; John 4:23,24; Mal 3:1-3; Jer 23:29; Rev 3:18 As long as “Israel” remains under a blasphemous two-fold rule, they will not be sealed. Rev 9:3,4;13:5-8 Hence, the call is made to “come out of her my people", which includes those who reside with them. Mark 13:14; Rev 18:4-8

I have selected various quotes of yours from the topic, “Whitewash”: Witness knows I believe this, he only says I do not because what I say is indeed true concerning God's people. Witness' absurd claim that Spiritual Israel only consist of the chosen ones is false and there is no Scriptural support whatsoever, granted that God's people consist of ALL persons concerning the Christ. So in a sense, it shows that Witness slanders even in the face of Scripture and still holds claim to be a chosen one. Because you are ignorant. If God says or does something, who are we to go around his Word, let alone take and or add to it, which is against God's Law? We already see an example with Spiritual Israel whereas not only you ignored those of the spiritual house and insist only the chosen ones are of this house, you deliberately stated there is no Bible evidence to what is said, and yet we have everything concerning the New Covenant in the Bible as evidence. That being said, so it is ignorance, willfulness, when the Bible informs you on Spiritual Israel. We already know who Spiritual Israel is. The problem is, you purposefully ignore that Spiritual Israel consist of all of God’s people, not solely and only the chosen ones as you proclaim, which puts your past statements into contradiction concerning the Spiritual House, that of Spiritual Jerusalem. Exactly, but those of Spiritual consist of all persons in union with the Christ. But you had professed earlier that only the chosen ones are of Spiritual Israel, missing the mark on what the New Covenant is all about. I haven’t twisted for speaking the truth. You yourself had twisted the truth by purposely not acknowledging the fact that the New Covenant consist of ALL of God’s people who have faith in Jesus, but you preach that it is only the chosen ones who are of Spiritual Israel. Therefore, you had twisted the truth, more so, even much we can go back to your other thread to see how much in err you truly are. We do not need links, we solely need the Bible. Also, your link only addresses the chosen ones, the focus here is Spiritual Israel, all of God's people.” JWInsider asked you, “Do you really think that Spirtual Israel is made up both the earthly class and the heavenly class?” SM: “Yes. Spiritual Israel is made up of all of God's people, all under one teaching of the Christ, all in union with Christ, and like him, they too have the fullness of God dwelling in them, and each and every single one of them dwell in the Spiritual House as is with God's Temple, that is, the Christ. I have my reasons for defending even the minor things of the New Covenant due to how mainstream Christendom has tainted it, and I am not the only one who defends such as well. And there are those who speak wrongly of the Covenant wrongly, and far worse and in this regard, the correction by means of the Bible must be made. But for someone to not recognize those who are in the same house, it is an insult for those who share in the same teachings that stem from Christ, Jesus." JWI: "I get it. I just wanted to make sure you knew whether or not you were disagreeing with the current Watchtower position on the topic. You appear to be disagreeing with the Witness doctrine." Just a question, SM; is the WT and all JWs, now “ignorant”, “willful” in making “absurd claims”? Have they “twisted the truth” and caused you “insult”, teaching this perceived falsehood concerning Spiritual Israel as well as the New Covenant? Is the Watchtower organization still part of "Restorationism", or are they now part of “mainstream Christendom” by “tainting” the understanding of the New Covenant? Will you continue to sympathize for their work since they have ‘missed the mark’? Those under the New Covenant: 1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 5:9,10 I’ve already explained how the rest of the children of God benefit from this fulfilled promise of life, in the Kingdom of God. I'm not the one who put a red Superman cape on Jesus. I'm curious where you may have found me, since only here am I known as "Witness". I have not strayed far lately. Perhaps you are mistaking me for someone else who shares the same message I do.

You are beginning to sound like Korah and his men. Num 16:3 There was a designated area of the temple where only the priests were allowed to serve, the sanctuary -the House of the Lord and the dwelling of Holy Spirit. "But you and your sons (Aaron) with you shall attend to your priesthood for everything concerning the altar and inside the veil, and you are to perform service. I am giving you the priesthood as a bestowed service, but the outsider who comes near shall be put to death." Num 18:7 "But let no one enter the house of the LORD except the priests and the ministering Levites; they may enter, for they are holy. And let all the people keep the charge of the LORD. "The Levites will surround the king, each man with his weapons in his hand; and whoever enters the house, let him be killed. Thus be with the king when he comes in and when he goes out." 2 Chron 23:6,7 Whatever God assigned to his priests could not be fulfilled by others, even by the King. So Saul said, “Bring me the burnt offering and the fellowship offerings.” Then he offered the burnt offering. 10 Just as he finished offering the burnt offering, Samuel arrived. So Saul went out to greet him, 11 and Samuel asked, “What have you done?” Saul answered, “When I saw that the troops were deserting me and you didn’t come within the appointed days and the Philistines were gathering at Michmash, 12 I thought: The Philistines will now descend on me at Gilgal, and I haven’t sought the Lord’s favor. So I forced myself to offer the burnt offering.” 13 Samuel said to Saul, “You have been foolish. You have not kept the command which the Lord your God gave you. It was at this time that the Lord would have permanently established your reign over Israel,14 but now your reign will not endure. The Lord has found a man loyal to Him, and the Lord has appointed him as ruler over His people, because you have not done what the Lord commanded.” 1 Sam 13:9,10,11,13,14 Only the anointed priesthood today can represent the Temple. Only they are responsible for the “Temple service”. They are the only dwelling of God’s Spirit. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 2 Cor 6:16; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 (please read) Today, the elder body (spiritual “Gentiles") has taken over the Temple service. Are they allowed to? Was Korah allowed to replace whom God appointed to serve in the sanctuary? 9 "Have you not driven out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron and the Levites, and made for yourselves priests like the peoples of [other] lands? Whoever comes to consecrate himself with a young bull and seven rams, even he may become a priest of [what are] no gods.” 2 Chron 13:9 “Say to the rebellious people, the house of Israel: This is what the Lord God says: I have had enough of all your detestable practices, house of Israel. 7 When you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in both heart and flesh, to occupy My sanctuary, you defiled My temple while you offered My food—the fat and the blood. Youbroke My covenant by all your detestable practices. 8 You have not kept charge of My holy things but have appointed others to keep charge of My sanctuary for you. 9 “This is what the Lord God says: No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart and flesh, may enter My sanctuary, not even a foreigner who is among the Israelites. Ezek 44:6-9 These decrees have not ended with the WT. They are even more important today, since the Temple built on the Body of Christ is “heavenly”. Heb 8:5 How has the elder body "occupied" God's sanctuary in his priests? Through the avenue of control: In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal. 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.—Read Romans 16:17, 18. WT 16/1 There are many believers in Christ, but only those chosen to be part of Christ’s Body/Temple are allowed to serve IN the Temple. They are the anointed “royal priesthood”, who received the “circumcision of the heart”. Rom 2:29 “You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.” John 15:16 Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple,[f] (“sanctuary”) and I will raise it up in three days.” 20 Therefore the Jews said, “This temple took forty-six years to build, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body. John 2:19-21 Revelation 7:15 is where the “great crowd” who comes out of the great tribulation, serve God: “For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His [fn] temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. “ [fn – “sanctuary”] How do you know she wasn't an anointed one? The Bible does not say either way.

“Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.” The word for “princes” in Isa 32:1 needs some scrutiny as to who it refers to. The organization says these princes are the elders in the “Messianic Kingdom” to rule on earth after Armageddon. This idea warrants the power of the holy ones, the “144,000” who will rule with Christ as simply, nonexistent. To tread down an individual or a people, it doesn’t always take a physical element to do it; but an idea, a philosophy not based on scripture, but on the ever-changing theories of men. Rev 16:13,14 It takes spiritual motivation to devise a counterfeit fulfillment of scripture, and a deceitful lie. Matt 24:24;2 Cor 2:11; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:11,14-17 “Prince” in this scripture means captain, chief or ruler, as well as a “social structure’s sub-chief”. (1 Pet 2:5; 2 Cor 9:12; Eph 1:10; Rev 5:10) This Hebrew word, “sar”, can have an angelic connotation as seen in Joshua 5:14. To understand how the true identity of the princes of Isa 32:1 has been subverted to mean the elder body, consider Dan 8:25: “He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes.Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.” This describes the growth of a deceitful power that conquers the anointed ones, by eventually eroding away their identity, as princes of Christ. Rev 13:7 Dan 8:24 – “He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people.“ It is at a time when God’s “holy people”/anointed feel secure, that this power has gradually arisen over them; and the false security they had believed in, turns into a time of great distress. 1 Thess 5:3; Matt 24:21 Dan 12:1 – “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people – everyone whose name is found written in the book – will be delivered.” In the 1970’s the WT stated that God is the Prince of Dan 8:25, and the princes being the “angelic” anointed remnant. Years later, God is still taught as the Prince, and the princes as the “angelic ones” that include Michael the Archangel, with no mention made to the anointed remnant. Jude 1:9 The truth is, the Prince in Dan 8:25, is Jesus Christ, in the role of Michael. His princes are spiritual “Israel”, Daniel’s “people” and the anointed priests. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Rom 8:9; 9:6-8) Pearl Doxsey comments: "Michael's" (meaning "Who is like God?") role is for warfare, and is against those who ask, "Who is like the Beast?" (Rev 13:4). Jesus' "new name" is not about Christ's "conquering and receiving approval by God". He already did both, in the first century (John 16:33; 1 John 5:4; Matt 3:17; 17:5; Isa 42:1). Michael's name, is about his battling the authority of the Beast, which has replaced him as head of the anointed congregation (2 Thess 2:4; Rev 13:7; Dan 8:11,25; 11:36) (Acts 3:20,21; 2 Thess 1:6-10; Dan 12:1). He must stand up against the demon inspired expressions which extol the Beast as worthy of worship (Rev 16:13-16; 13:15,8; 1 Tim 4:1), when that Beast and it's image/idol, take a stand against the Prince of princes and "tramples" his fellow Kingdom heirs, God's Temple (Dan 8:11,24,25; 11:31,36; 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 13:7,10; 11:2) "Michael" must re-establish God's sovereignty and His Kingdom purpose... His Temple, and Holy City, as supreme. This he does, with his armies of heaven (Rev 17:14; 19:11,14,8; 12:17,11,7; Matt 25:31; Jude 1:14) (Rev 2:26,27; 2 Cor 10:3-5; Eph 2:6; Heb 12:22,23; Rev 19:14) (1 Pet 5:8,9) So, in Isaiah 32:1, the princes under their King, their ‘great Prince’, can only be the “144,000” ruling with him. God has not appointed an elder body to rule along with Christ; but His faithful kings and priests – the “144,000” princes. Rev 19:11,14 Jesus does not have another “army” that will judge on the earth after Armageddon while the “144,000” remain in heaven. This is a fabrication to cancel out the truth about where the anointed will be found in the Kingdom, and how they will rule with Christ. Gen 28:12; John 1:51; Acts 1:11; Heb 1:6; 9:28 Your leaders, JWs, have accomplished pushing the anointed and Christ into the far recesses of your mind. You now concentrate on your top men in charge, and the elder body as your “princes; yet, the Bible describes a Wild Beast from the sea, and the Beast with “two horns like a lamb” but speaks like a dragon that war against the anointed in numerous covert ways, such as the examples provided above. Rev 13:1,11 Truth, that Christ provides his repentant and cleansed priests, during the last days, is the measuring line for judgment. Amos 7:7,8; Isa 28:17; Zech 2:1; 4:9,10,14,6; Rev 11:3,4 However, in the organization it is quite evident that the elder body possesses superiority over the anointed priests; using a falsely given power to rule over them, and place judgment on their spirituality. Rev 13:15 The elders have no scriptural authority to rule anywhere, or judge anyone; not now, and not in the Kingdom of God. Mal 2:7; Ezek 44:6-9; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 1 Cor 3:16,17 Paul said, “Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?” 1 Cor 6:2 To any of God’s priests who may be reading this, and all JWs who have submitted to the illegitimate power reigning over you, will you unchain your mind and heart from “empty philosophy” - "strongly entrenched" false teachings - which are destined to rob you of life? Will you, instead, gain freedom in truth? Jer 23:16; 2 Cor 11:4,13-15; 2 Cor 10:4; Matt 15:14; John 8:32 Isaiah, chapter 32 See, a king will rule according to righteousness, and princes will rule according to justice. 2 And each one will be like a hiding place from the wind and a covering from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a dry region, like the shade of a large rock in a weary land. 3 And the eyes of those who see will not be blinded, and the ears of those who hear will listen. 4 And the heart of the rash will understand knowledge, and the tongues of stammerers will hasten to speak clearly. 5 A fool will no longer be called noble, and a scoundrel will not be said to be eminent. 6 For a fool speaks folly, and his heart does iniquity: to behave wickedly, and to speak error concerning YHVH, to leave the throat of the hungry empty, and he deprives the thirsty of drink. 7 And a scoundrel, his weapons are evil; he plans evil devices to ruin the poor with words of deception and when the speech of the needy is right. 8 But the nobleman plans noble things, and he stands upon noble things. 9 Women who are at ease, rise up; hear my voice! Carefree daughters, listen to my word! (Isa 52:2) 10 In a year you will tremble, carefree ones, (KJV: “many days and years”) for the vintage will come to an end; the harvest will not come. (“the ingathering will not come”) 11 Tremble, you who are at ease; tremble, carefree ones; strip, and strip yourself, and gird yourself on your loins, 12 mourning over breasts, over fields of delight, over the fruitful vine, 13 over the soil of my people. (Rev 11:3) It goes up in thorns and briers, indeed over all of the houses of joy in the jubilant city. 14 For the palace will be forsaken, the crowded city deserted; the hill and the watchtower will become a cave forever, (Hos 10:5,8;Rev 9:2,3,5,7,10,11; Luke 23:30; Rev 6:15,16) the joy of wild asses, a pasture for flocks. 15 Until a spirit is poured out on us from on high, and the wilderness becomes a fruitful field, and the fruitful field is reckoned as the forest. 16 Then justice will dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness will live in the fruitful field. 17 And the work of righteousness will be peace, and the work of righteousness, quietness and security forever. 18 And my people will dwell in a settlement of peace and in a dwelling place of security and in undisturbed resting places. 19 And it hails when the forest comes down, (Isa 28:17; 30:30; Rev 8:7; 11:1)) and the city will become low in humiliation. 20 Happy are you who sow by all waters, who let the foot of the ox and the donkey go free. For consideration: “Michael” “Remaining Ones” “Who are the Chief Princes?” “Who Will Materialize During God’s Kingdom?” “Who are the Fine Trees?” “Is Leaving the City Enough?” Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness

Not enthusiasm, but sarcasm, of which I do need to keep in check.

Apparently, it is okay with you if the group teaches false doctrine, as the WT has and does. But, according to you, no one must bring up the false doctrine, but accept the group (with their lies) since they propose to be Christians that fit your definition of "Christian". I am sorry, but it is not me that is the hypocrite. It very well could be you.

The bus and the first two vans were the preferred vehicle for "door to door". Especially for the long days when the table could be flipped up for lunch to be served. The last Westfalia was rejected by our last congregation. They preferred their leather seats and slick-looking expensive cars. If a truck was taken in "service", gossip began, making its owner feeling inadequate in "Jehovah's service". Are you a regular reader now?

So, you don’t have to define a repentant heart, you are able to “just know” a repentant heart when you see one. I suppose it would be a lot easier to detect, if this heart returned to “Jehovah’s organization”, where God has supposedly lived for the last 100 years. Acts 7:48-51; 17:24,25,29-31 Yet, if I say, I am saved through the grace of Jesus Christ, and not through an organization and its “faithful slave”; and I am told by the elders I still must repent for rejecting “Jehovah’s organization”, who is it that is telling a lie? Acts 4:12; 15:11; Luke 9:35; John 5:43; Luke 21:8; Matt 24:24; Rev 13:11,15 Who really needs to repent? Rev 3:17-20 Thirty-some years, and 4 VW vans later (one a 1974 bus), I now worship the Father in Spirit and truth. John 4:23,24 I have repented for giving my worship and devotion to a form of idolatry that is getting more absurd by the day.

How do you define a repentant heart?

The woman at the well with Jesus, said, “I know that the Messiah will come, and when he comes, he will tell us everything.” 26 Jesus answered, “I AM HE, I WHO AM TALKING WITH YOU.” "Then the woman left her water jar, went back to the town, and said to the people there, 29 “Come and see the man who told me everything I have ever done. Could he be the Messiah?” 30 So they left the town and went to Jesus. 39 Many of the Samaritans in that town believed in Jesus because the woman had said, “He told me everything I have ever done.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they begged him to stay with them, and Jesus stayed there two days. Many more believed because of his message, 42 and they told the woman, 'We believe now, not because of what you said, but because we ourselves have heard him, AND WE KNOW THAT HE REALLY IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.'" John 4:25,26,28-30,29-42 Watch this account here: https://www.jesusfilm.org/watch/life-of-jesus-gospel-of-john.html/samaritan-village/english.html?fbclid=IwAR0rzxoJwE00K96reLZxqn1dgZhmzBErBKwMaJJzD2KmX2mBdL4BIzTQkSE The disciples asked Jesus, "what will happen to show that it is the time for your coming and the end of the age" 4 Jesus answered, “Watch out, and do not let anyone fool you. 5 Many men, CLAIMING TO SPEAK FOR ME, will come and say, ‘I am the Messiah!’ and they will fool many people. 23 “Then, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or ‘There he is!’—do not believe it. 24 For FALSE MESSIAHS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR; they will perform great miracles and wonders in order to deceive EVEN GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, if possible. 25 Listen! I have told you this ahead of time." Matt 24:3-5,23-25 For consideration - "Who Really Is?" 4womaninthewilderness, Pearl Doxsey

"organization" - your leaders: GB, elder body as a unit (and those who fully obey their teachings.) "general consensus" - members (there are those who may question just who is destroyed in Armageddon. Maybe one of them is you.) The video that appears to be hidden or removed, explains the organization's stand on what salvation requires.

TTH stated: "I don’t really know who anyone here is, nor do I know exactly where he is coming from. I skim a lot. I missed that point of his. It is enough to know that he is not against Jehovah’s people. The phrase “Jehovah’s people” that SM appears to support, does not include him as one of “Jehovah’s people”, obviously. Where does that leave anyone who appears to support “Jehovah’s people”? According to the organization, they become toast in Armageddon, since it is absolutely necessary to be baptized into the organization, to have any chance of surviving into the “new world”. I doubt if SM would support that belief, but it is the general consensus of JWs. Where does that leave those who are approached to help WT and its members reach liberty when under ban, or in other times of peril, when they come to their rescue? These outside individuals are not saved in Armageddon, because they are part of the “world” and not dedicated to the organization. Wasn’t that the sober theme of the special talk following the Memorial this year? By the way, where is that video these days? It is hard to find. People, organizations, political rulers, that are called upon to assist in rescuing “Jehovah’s people”; which equates to, rescuing an organization’s right to exist in this earthly system, will not be thanked by “Jehovah” when the end comes. All, according to the teachings of the Watchtower. God has a people; firstfruits of all of his future children, who must be refined and found faithful during their sojourn in Satan’s world. 1 Pet 5:8-10; James 1:18 Their success in fighting off all that Satan deceives them with, proves them acceptable to be a servant and a guide for God’s other “people”, His children to come, in the Kingdom. Mal 2:7 The priority to be found as one of God’s children, is to receive Christ; individually, not an earthly organization that claims it is led by Christ. John 1:11-13 There is no Bible based scripture to support this belief. Since those faithful firstfruits are priests that hold in their heart God’s decrees, and are striving to obey Christ’s teachings, the words which may be received by others, contain Spirit from Christ. They choose to listen, believe or walk away. John 13:20 In the organization, are these “firstfruits” able to speak God’s decrees? No. They speak what is placed before them by men who glorify themselves, and not the words of Christ. Matt 24:24 As God’s people, they have no ability to speak on behalf of their Head. Their sacrifices of praise are restricted. Their spiritual “power” as priests, is gone; and with it, is the truth about who are genuinely, God’s people. Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10 Dan 8:11,12 - It acted arrogantly even against the Prince of the heavenly army; it revoked his regular sacrifice and overthrew the place of his sanctuary. 12 Because of rebellion, a host, together with the daily sacrifice, will be given over. The horn will throw truth to the ground and will be successful in whatever it does. “Then I, Daniel, looked, and two others were standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the other. 6 One of them said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long until the end of these extraordinary things?” 7 Then I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river. He raised both his hands toward heaven and swore by Him who lives eternally that it would be for a time, times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people is shattered, all these things will be completed.” I heard but did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will be the outcome of these things?” 9 He said, “Go on your way, Daniel, for the words are secret and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, cleansed, and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; none of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand. 11 From the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. – symbolic days. Dan 12:5-13 Dan 11:31; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 It is ignorance to believe that God blesses an organization as “Jehovah’s people”, when they do not perceive His Temple, the necessary obligation that His priests must perform, and the vital need for them to be cognizant of their Head, Jesus Christ. Heb 13:15; Col 2:19 A “faithful and discreet slave” appointed to dispense “food at the proper time", would never usurp the role of Christ by appointing oneself as head over God's anointed ones, as the GB has. Matt 24:45-51 The organization is a fantasy world of deceit. Anyone who supports such a fantasy, whether inside or outside the organization, is spiritually standing on shaky ground. 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 16:13,14; 20:7-10; Zech 4:7 “Abomination of Desolation” – 4womaninthewilderness Pearl Doxsey

i think that i can't believe in your teachings/explanations because: you are not "inspired" ... and you are not "infallible" ! He must have the ability to read each heart, just as the Father and Christ do. Why would he need scriptures?

There is a thing called conscience. Barbara Anderson met a brick wall that bruised her conscience. She took action when the corruption she faced in the "society" she belonged to, needed to be exposed. She didn't swallow it down as if it didn't exist, but she did her research; as you say you are doing, as a result of being a man of academia. However, it is all a conscience matter. Some individuals freely develop an ineffective conscience, branded and scarred by the influence of hypocrisy. Even though truth may be right in front of them, they no longer discern the difference between righteousness and unrighteousness, no matter how much research they may find, that exposes the source of hypocrisy. "God’s Spirit specifically tells us that in later days there will be men who abandon the true faith and allow themselves to be spiritually seduced by teachings of the devil, teachings given by men who are lying hypocrites, whose consciences are as dead as seared flesh. 1 Tim 4:1,2 Then Jesus said, “My coming into this world is itself a judgment—those who cannot see have their eyes opened and those who think they can see become blind.” John 9:39

Did you notice that he highlighted "Pearl Doxsey" in purple? Where do you think he got that idea?

I am not Pearl Doxsey, but I work with her. Wow, you went to her blog, defying the rules and regulations of your organization, not to seek out, "apostates".

TTH – “If Hymenaeus and Alexander go bad on you, to be sure, it is a downer, but it does not destroy faith and a good conscience. “ Hymenaeus is mentioned also in 2 Tim 2:14-19: Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matt 7:21-23

TTH made the comment, "Witness runs a fine shop that she operates out of Facebook. Why don’t you go there?" I remember as a JW frequently hearing “you receive free, give free”, based on Matt 10:8 I thought that was what I was doing, freely spreading “good news” from the Bible, which was really the GB’s slant on the good news. I also realized I paid for the “privilege” to spread this news to others. (This is why JWs state they are so proud to be a JW. It is a privilege to be one) I paid for this presumed privilege , through my devotion, loyalty, and servitude I gave to the organization. Being a JW comes with a price – total commitment and obedience to men. Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10 Once a member realizes nothing comes free under that environment, and stops paying into this organization, they lose all they have invested in it…family, friends, and their life as they knew it. Rev 13:15 This type of spiritual commerce is so far removed from the teachings of Jesus. It is a commerce of buying and selling spiritual food dressed up in a pretty package, but which comes with a temporary shelf life. The expiration date is unknown, until a new and improved product comes into the “marketplace”. What a surprise to find out that what you had been eating all along, could make you spiritually ill. Jer 23:16 After making a whip out of cords, he drove everyone out of the temple with their sheep and oxen. He also poured out the money changers’ coins and overturned the tables. 16 He told those who were selling doves, “Get these things out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a marketplace!” (“a house of business”) John 2:15,16 He went into the temple and began to throw out those who were selling 46 and he said, “It is written, my house will be a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves!” Luke 19:45,46 WT is all about “business” in every sense of the word. Their leaders’ first and foremost concern is not the members; otherwise they would be “inspired” by Holy Spirit and producing its fruitage, fruit that would “last”. Gal 5:22-26; John 15:16 Their concerns are members who are willing to give monetarily, physically, and mentally to support and build for WT, and work all aspects of their business. It has to do with land holdings, and investments that support the idol that they must keep alive. Rev 13:4 Perhaps JWs feel they have a “fine shop” to buy their spiritual food from, but every aspect of the provision of this spiritual fruit, is corrupt. Matt 7:17,18 This is why Jesus sends his servants in the last days to “go to the lost sheep of Israel” – stated two verses before Matt 10:8 . Rev 11:1-3 “Israel”, the Temple of God/anointed ones is found in this “house of business”, the house of “buying and selling”. Rev 13:7 The spiritual Temple of God has been corrupted by a false prophet and organization of elders, who regulates all food JWs “eat”. Matt 24:48-51 The Temple is over-run by “thieves” that are stealing not only from them, but from all JWs. They are stealing what could have been spiritual food that these Temple members could offer as a unified body under one Head, Jesus. In the same chapter of Matthew, Jesus said “When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. For truly I tell you, you will not have gone through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes. The anointed and all who have lost their life for rejecting the organization by listening and adhering to Christ’s words, have gained “life” through Christ’s spiritual provisions offered through his servants he sends. John 13:20; Matt 17:11 There is no “buying and selling”, no time sheets, no dedication made to an organization, no “back room” of judgment. It is spiritual food, offered with no strings attached. Yet, the “good news” is being preached to whom it must be preached; “Israel” and all “leaving the city” – ex-JWs who know that truth can be found. Luke 14:21; 17:26-37 The Watchtower tells its members that it prefers to concentrate on the pure, simple teachings of the Bible. What they don’t capitalize on any longer, is the understanding of the Marriage Feast of the Lamb and when it occurs. Matt 25:1-12 They do have this to say, Discreet, prepared virgins (vs. 2)—Anointed Christians who are prepared to carry out their assignment faithfully and who shine as illuminators until the end (Php 2:15) What would that assignment be? To follow the “wicked slave”, shining as illuminators for false christs who have deceived them already? Matt 24:24 Foolish virgins (vs. 8)—Anointed Christians who go out to meet the Bridegroom but who do not remain watchful and do not maintain their integrity mwb 18 March p. 17 That’s it. Nothing there about what the foolish virgins do to keep from entering the Marriage Feast. Yet, its fulfillment has arrived. The “foolish virgins” buy “oil”, a spirit, from a “wicked slave” – too fearful to stand up against men and their worthless fodder they have to offer. Col 3:24 The “wise virgins” listen to Christ and receive the “food” necessary to carry them through to the Kingdom. They share it, with all who desire to listen. They have the integrity to give up their lives to search and receive, truth from Christ. All…who leave the city, are invited to this Feast.

The only game in town in Jesus’ day, which was equally corrupt, was destroyed. If the apostles held to your philosophy, where would any of us be now? 2 Cor 6:14,16,17; Rev 18:4-8 Not without God "putting it into their hearts" - into the hearts of the elder body to act on behalf of their "Beast"/organization. Rev 17:15-17 Rev 17:12-14

"Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” John 4:23,24 In one publication by the organization, it uses 1 Cor 10:14 and 1 John 5:21 to explain that a true Christian would not worship God at any place of ‘special value’. Their comment is based on Jesus’ words in John 4:21-24. The publication states that doing so would incur idol worship, resulting from viewing any place as holy in itself. This article is in a public addition of the magazines, dated 2016. Search, “shrine”. SHRINE – “any structure or place consecrated or devoted to some saint, holy person, or deity, as an altar, chapel, church, or temple.” Kingdom halls and assembly halls have been referred to as “God’s House”, also the Bethels. (Bethel means “House of God”) Since the organization is taught as being “spirit-directed”, belonging to “Jehovah”, and owned buildings are included in his “earthly belongings”, they are all considered “holy”. The presence of God’s Spirit is assumed as being within a building, and within the organization as a whole. Rev 13:15 (see John 20:22) In fact, kingdom halls and assembly halls particularly, are frequently dedicated to God as the ancient temples were; dedicated to God, until men make the decision to treat it as real estate and sell it off. Don’t you find it an anomaly, JWs, that God’s spirit appears to be everywhere at man’s whim, except in the hearts of your leaders, who admit they are not “inspired”? 2 Tim 3:1,5,7,8 In summarizing your leaders’ documented words, it reveals that you have been encouraged to practice idolatry by applying a special value to the organization and its earthly goods. Matt 6:19,20;19:24 Does this make JWs, “true Christians”? We are very aware that idolaters are not true Christians following the teachings and command of Christ. Isa 2:7,8; Matt 5:19,20 (The organization has a routine of speaking some truth, but putting the opposite into practice, and expecting JWs to do the same - to fall into idolatry.) (Exod 32:2-8; Isa 44:20; Rom 1:25) “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.” John 4:21 The organization is considered “mountain-like”, prophesied to be established in the last days, (Isa 2:2,3) yet it stands in defiance of Jesus’ words spoken to the woman at the well. Can we say we believe in, and know the Son, if his teachings - his admonition about how we should worship - are not followed? Luke 11:28; John 12:48; 14:24 “Antichrist” means “against” Christ; as an opponent of Christ. In action, we can see that the organization is against this teaching of Jesus, fully contradicting his words. It continues to build its holy places, and comparing them to temples. Luke 4:5-8; John 2:19-21; Acts 7:48-51; 17:24-25 It must be confusing to believe that both an earthly organization, as well as God with His Son, can grant one salvation. Isa 46:5; 57:13; Dan 11:38; Rev 13:4 Please, sort it out in your mind and heart, JWs. You have in one hand, a counterfeit teaching that a fabricated earthly “mountain” will lead you to eternal life; that you must be baptized into “Jehovah’s organization” to receive eternal life. In the other hand, you are presented by Christ, God’s way of approved worship. His definition of Mount Zion is far different than what your leaders promote. “Daughter Zion” is not an earthly organization comprised of buildings and people. It doesn’t refer to every “Jehovah’s Witness”. It refers to chosen, faithful anointed ones who will serve the Father and Jesus eternally as “priests and kings” in God’s Kingdom. They are the spiritual descendants of Jacob, and God’s spiritual “dwelling”. This is the true Temple today; the authentic ZION. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17;2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 3:12 “In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.” Isa 2:2 For those who reject the idolatrous way of worship highly promoted by the organization’s leaders, the “spirit-directed” idol “kills”/disfellowships any who desire to obey Christ’s teachings and search out the proper way to worship, as explained in the article. Luke 21:12; 9:24; John 15:21; John 16:2; Rev 13:15 When you compare the words in the article, with the subsequent actions carried out against its teaching, can you see the hypocrisy in this, JWs? The organization makes the enlightening statement that the “antichrist” can refer to a false “christ”, as well as any group as an organization, or group of people that makes the claim to represent Christ; but instead, oppose him. The identity of the Antichrist today has pertinent characteristics to help pinpoint that it is for certain, the organization and its leaders. 1 John 4:1-3 addresses the spirit of false prophet/false “christs”: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, if they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby ye know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses Jesus Christ come in flesh is of God; 3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus Christ come in flesh is not of God: and this is that [power] of the antichrist, [of] which ye have heard that it comes, and now it is already in the world. “A true Prophet believes and preaches the physical incarnation of the Word, into Jesus Christ. He will preach Jesus as came to Earth and put on humanity in order to redeem us all. This previous incarnation would precede the next one (Heb 1:6; Acts 3:21; Matt 17:11; Acts 1:11). Any who deny this future earthy materialization of Christ and his co-rulers (Rev 5:10; Rom 8:19; John 1:51; Rev 21:2), essentially deny the first one (John 1:14). The very concept of an exclusive "heavenly hope", promotes the "spirit of the anti-Christ" (1 John 4:2,3; 2 John 1:7).” 2 John 2:7 – “ For many deceivers have gone out into the world, they who do not confess Jesus Christ coming in flesh—this is the deceiver and the antichrist.” Pearl Doxsey, “Prophets Within Christ’s Body/Temple Foundation” 4womaninthewilderness Clearly, a false prophet that directs a “mountain-like” organization can be considered “anti-christ” and which was also prophesied to appear in the last days. Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,14-17 This two-fold powerful rule, advertised as led by Christ, is “lawlessness”. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:18 It is a counterfeit mountain which preaches a message of worship contrary to Christ’s teaching of worshiping in the Spirit and in truth. 2 John 2 continues: “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home, and don’t say, 'Welcome,' to him; 11 for the one who says, “Welcome,” to him shares in his evil works." "God is spirit, and His worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” John 4:24 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’" Matt 7:21-23 The “Man of Lawlessness” is determined to destroy God’s true way we are to worship. How? By “trampling” the authentic Temple of God; by appearing to be higher and mightier than God’s spiritual dwelling in the anointed ones; even more powerful than Christ himself. 2 Thess 2:4 - "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God (divinity) or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God/divine. Dan 8:11 - "It even magnified itself to be equal with the Commander of the host; and it removed the regular sacrifice from Him, and the place of His sanctuary (Temple) was thrown down." The organization’s perceived divinity is fueled by the men who operate it; the elder body, who are spiritual “Gentiles”. Pearl Doxsey coments: Mark called the Man of Lawlessness, a "disgusting thing standing where it does not belong" (Mark 13:14). It does not belong to Gentiles/nations (Rev 11:2), to be in the midst of God's Temple (2 Chron 23:6; Num 3:10). Even worse, to rule over it and trample it down. Yet we see in the time of the end, God's Temple priesthood is trespassed and taken over, by the Gentiles... the Man of Lawlessness. It is important to know what God's Temple is today, or else, how will we recognize when it is being trampled? 1 Cor 3:16 shows that God's Temple, is the hearts of his anointed and faithful priests... "you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives within you?" (1Cor.3:16) "Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge of what is to come." (2 Cor 1:21,22) So when we are looking for the man of lawlessness setting himself over God's Temple, we should be looking for that one, setting himself up over the anointed priests belonging to God's Temple, and those under-priests of Christ, accepting domination in their heart. From “Christs Return – When?” 4womaninthewilderness ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What about the true Mount Zion to be established in the last days? Worshiping in spirit and truth requires recognizing the given authority of Christ over his Temple “stones”. (1 Pet 2:5,9) Man’s authority that regulates all activity and oppresses the anointed in the organization, is as Pearl brought out, “lawlessness”. Rev 13:8; 19:20; Ezek 14:10 JWs, lawlessness exists in the absence of LOVE. Analyze your way of worship, coupled with the organization’s grandiose attempt to hide its blasphemous idolatry, by capping it off with this summer’s convention theme. John 5:41-43 “I do not accept glory from human beings, 42 but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.” John 4:23 JWs, Jesus has spelled out quite clearly, the criteria for worshiping the Father in the Spirit and in truth. Are you adhering to that criteria, evaluating Jesus’ words against those your leaders expect you to follow? Mark 13:21-33 Whose words, carry eternal life? Matt 7:13,14; John 10:7-10; John 3:16; Matt 19:29 Pearl Doxsey, from “FAINT OUT OF FEAR”: God DOES have a "mountain"....a spiritual one. It is ZION, and IT is the place of proper worship "in spirit and truth", just as prophesied at Isa 2:2,3 and Rev 14:1. It is organized, according to the divine arrangement, of Eph 2:20-22,10; 4:11,12 and 1 Cor 12:12,14,18,27,28. It is God's spiritual Temple (Isa 2:2), established in the heavens (Heb 8:5;9:24; 12:22,23; 1 Cor 3:16,9). That temple... [from it's founding "cornerstone" (Ps 118:22; Eph 2:20) to it's "capstone" (Zech 4:7,9-11,14; Rev 11:3,4)] ...is made of chosen, living stones (1 Pet 2:5,9) who worship in spirit and truth. There is where you can find living waters, contained within their "fruit" (Luke 6:44,45) (John 7:38,39; 14:17; 16:13; 1 Cor 2:12,13; Rev 22:17,1-3; Matt 7:20. "So we say with confidence, 'The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?'" (Heb 13:6) Isa 2:22 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I pulled out my tattered Living Bible given to me when I was a young girl, to quote Zech 4:1-14: Then the angel who had been talking with me woke me, as though I had been asleep. 2. What do you see now?” he asked. I answered, “I see a golden lampstand holding seven lamps, and at the top there is a reservoir for the olive oil that feeds the lamps, flowing into them through seven tubes. 3 And I see two olive trees carved upon the lampstand, one on each side of the reservoir. 4 What is it, sir? I asked. “What does this mean?” 5 Don’t you really know?” the angel asked. “No sir, I said, “I don’t.” 6 Then he said, “This is God’s message to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of Hosts—you will succeed because of my Spirit, though you are few and weak’. 7 Therefore no mountain, however high, can stand before Zerubbabel! For it will flatten out before him! And Zerubbabel will finish building this Temple with mighty shouts of thanksgiving for God’s mercy, declaring that all was done by grace alone.” 8 Another message that I received from the Lord said: 9 Zerubbabel laid the foundation of this Temple, and he will complete it. (Then you will know these messages are from God, the Lord of Hosts.) 10 Do not despise this small beginning, for the eyes of the Lord rejoice to see the work begin, to see the plumbline in the hand of Zerubbabel. For these seven lamps represent the eyes of the Lord that see everywhere around the world.” 11 Then I asked him about the two olive trees on each side of the lampstand, 12 and about the two olive branches that emptied oil into the golden bowls through two golden tubes. 13 “Don’t you know?” he asked. “No, sir,” I said. 14 Then he told me, “They represent the two anointed ones who assist the Lord in all the earth.” Consider - “The Rise of Mount Zion” 4womaninthewilderness

Not only do the have the Bible, but according to the Watchtower, they have been appointed by Holy Spirit: The "gifts in men" mentioned at Eph 4:8 are Christian elders, who are appointed by holy spirit and are given authority to care for the spiritual interests of fellow believers. (Acts 20:28) km 8/02 pp. 5-6 Two lies: When it comes to child abuse, they must call for legal advice. Their given authority to care for spiritual interests of fellow believers, stops there. The "gifts in men" do not refer to those not anointed, but to the anointed ones. Eph 4:11-13 Would they have Holy Spirit if this elder body from the top down, has lied about not only their false authority, but robbing the identity of who God has provided to serve under Holy Spirit's guidance? Would God really give these men the ability to shepherd justly if they rule behind a lie?

It appears James may not have notice that the post was written by John Redwood, until he saw your comment under his.