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Anything you would like to know about Pearl as an anointed one, is on her blog. Free internet to attack the organization. The correlations you make....smh No. Do you?

How is this idolatry, by saying Pearl is being used "in an exclusive way"? Wasn't Paul, and all the apostles used in an exclusive way? Do you know how faithful anointed were used over the last 2,000 years? The faithful were busy serving God as He expected, in whatever capacity he bestowed on them. There is no comparison between Pearl and a GB who write their own doctrine, set of rules, that contradicts the Bible. But, that comes with earthly "organization" that needs your money...to thrive. whoops. Sorry. I was to use...@TTH

Dear JWI, I know you are fairly aware of what I believe, so hopefully I don't get too carried away here. I do not have nearly the knowledge of scripture that Pearl has. Inspiration of Holy Spirit among anointed is not a rare thing. On the contrary, those who remain “in Christ” would be inspired to speak according to scripture – according to the direction the Holy Spirit would lead them. Although it is “one Spirit”, each member of the anointed body would reveal its workings through the gifts individually given them. 1 Cor 12:7 Pearl’s gift benefits the other members – and all who care to listen - in an exclusive way. 1 Cor 12:11 I don’t think I would call those who have been disfellowshipped or shunned after say, 10-50 years spent in the organization, as “immature Witnesses”. The authority over JWs, is an iron fist in a velvet glove. The impact may not be felt, not perceived, until one stands up against its leaders. Surely, you know that people who speak against a “leadership” for misguiding individuals with wrong teachings or expectations, put their lives at risk. Those who do so in the organization, are the “mature ones”, who take hold of their own spiritual lives. They realize our judgment of eternal life or death comes from Christ. Rom 14:10 The assumed authority by men to judge people as spiritually “dead”, according to a big thick manual, (that is considered “confidential”) is frightening, isn’t it? To accept such authority (or 'leadership') over JWs, when the organization digs in their heals to resist facing their own sins, is hypocrisy. How can love spring forth from a leadership of hypocrisy? I so wish you could consider the “weightier matters” that I know you see, instead of justifying and making amends for the existence of the *organization, by straining out the gnat and swallowing a *camel. Matt 23:23,24 I’m curious how the Bible reveals that an earthly organization in Satan’s realm, could possibly be used as a tool for Christ’s Kingdom interests. Christ and Satan are enemies. Why would Christ utilize power, authority, and material interests that are all that Satan lusts after, and freely gives others who desire it, (as the “ruler of this world” John 12:31)… to embellish his Kingdom interests? Luke 4:5-7 John 18:36: Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” His only interest is in the hearts of individuals. If we submit individually to his authority, we become a “kingdom interest”. Luke 17:21 It doesn’t take an organization to do this. About trees and fruit. Genesis mentions two trees. Gen 2:9 The tree that Eve eventually “ate” from, produced death. Rom 5:12 Satan offered her a lie, and she not only accepted it, but shared this lie with Adam. BOTH lost the gift of life. Jesus, as the Word of life, is the “tree” of life. Gen 3:22; John 1:1,14 He told us how we are to “eat” from the tree of life: "Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.” John 6:57 “For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” 34 Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.” 35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.” John 6:33,34 Through our obedience to his teachings, he says: "Let anyone who has ears to hear listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.” Rev 2:7 (also 22:14) Since Christ is the Head of the anointed Body, his bodily members are also considered “trees”. We know there would be no deviance, no misleading word or teaching coming from the mouth of Christ, since each word he spoke, contained life. John 14:6 There is no “bad fruit” that Christ would produce. So too, should it be with the anointed “trees” (or, branches of the vine) that are to “remain in him” – receiving the same Holy Spirit. John 15:4; Mark 11:24; John 14:26 The anointed must learn, from their Head, Christ. It is only then that they also, can produce lasting “fruit”/teachings sourced from Holy Spirit. John 6:56; Mal 2:7 Well, could you be ignoring what Jesus taught about a “good tree”? Would you be justifying WT’s teachings by doing so? He didn’t say both bad and good fruit are found on a good tree. Matt 7:18; 12:33 “For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit” Luke 6:43 Surely, since the Pharisees knew the law, there were good things that they taught the people (Matt 23:3), but they were not considered by John the Baptist as a tree that imparted “good fruit”. Matt 3:7-10 There is a clear distinction between what is good and what is bad in the Bible. A “good” anointed tree would be found trustworthy to produce “fruit” sourced in Christ – always reliable, always lasting, teachings that always are able to be built upon. John 15:16 If an anointed one misleads his hearers with a worthless piece of fruit – a “teaching” that he said is from God but is now discarded, how is this any different than the lie Satan told Eve? Dear JWI, you are believing that “surely we will not die” because it is okay to accept doctrine from the leaders of “Jehovah’s organization” that was absolutely, a lie to begin with. Satan is “sifting” all of us by using “teachings”/words/lies, from his own bodily members - his “ministers of light”. Luke 22:31; 2 Cor 11:13-15 This is why, during the last days both truth and lies are presented by anointed “trees”/ “kings of the earth”. Rev 1:5; 19:16,19 Which “tree” of those “kings" we choose to listen to, is what our heart desires. Matt 10:40-42; 15:18; 2 Thess 2:9-12 In the Kingdom, along with the “tree of life”, are found his “trees”/Bride: Ezek 47:12 -- "All kinds of trees providing food will grow along both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. Each month they will bear fresh fruit because the water comes from the sanctuary. Their fruit will be used for food and their leaves for medicine." Rev 22:17 - “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.” John 7:38 - "Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” And...I got carried away. "Two Trees" - 4womaninthewilderness blogspot Pearl Doxsey

No, Arauna, I was a wallflower in the organization. I was obedient to those who supposedly were watching over my soul. I am now obedient to Christ; and will continue to expose the WT and the GB for who they are, and how they fulfill prophesy about God's people in the last days. I am sure they know who I am now, and keep track of what Pearl, myself and others say, about their spiritual ruse. If I could take every JW by the hand and drag them out of the organization, I would. What you translate as OCD, hate and bitterness, is absolute fear and dread for your spiritual lives. Rev 11:1-3 I just read this sobering quote by Mark Twain: “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” Your statement that I quoted was well made, yet you cannot see that it applies directly, to the men whom you believe are leading you to salvation. Addition - I no longer "fear" men. God did not arrange the Body of Christ - a body of "bond servants" who are under one Head, and who are to cherish each of its members - only to expect a group of them to wield authoritative power over the others. Jesus warned his disciples not to be this way. 1 Cor 12:12-26 Now, we have an organization with "rulers" who fail in their teachings and still expect obedience; as if the GB is the Head of the anointed Body of Christ! I wish you could see that this defies God's word. It defies Christ's teachings. Luke 22:24-27 To say that a person who turns his back on men and their organization; and instead, turns fully toward God and Christ, is the one at fault, shows just how powerful and successful the GB and elder body's rule over JWs, has evolved. "The Lord confides in those who fear Him; He makes his covenant known to them. My eyes are ever on the Lord, for only He will release my feet from the snare." Ps 25:14,15

Have you thought of writing the GB about this? “In the past, we thought that the great tribulation began in 1914 when World War I started. We thought that Jehovah “cut short” those days in 1918 when the war ended so that the remaining anointed ones on earth could preach the good news to all nations. (Matthew 24:21, 22) After that preaching work would be completed, we expected that Satan’s world would be destroyed. So we thought that there were three parts to the great tribulation. It would begin in 1914, it would be interrupted in 1918, and it would finish at Armageddon.” Then we realized that a part of Jesus’ prophecy about the last days has two fulfillments. (Matthew 24:4-22) It was fulfilled in the first century in the district of Judea. And in our day there would be a much larger fulfillment that would happen in the whole earth. So we needed to change the way we understood some parts of the prophecy.” ws13 7/15 p. 3-4 No one, knows how to “run ahead”/"push ahead" better than the Watchtower leaders. Which means, according to the scriptures you used, God does not have their back.

If I have 'bent' scripture, I will suffer the consequences. If I have not lived up to my calling as an anointed one, I will suffer the consequences. If I have given “false testimony”, I will suffer the consequences. Bending scripture means applying God’s word to one’s own doctrine by straying from the doctrine of Christ. Matt 15:9 If any anointed one makes excuses for their false testimony, by calling upon “new light” to cover it over, will that person suffer the consequences of their actions? Why would the GB be immune to Jesus’ judgment? “But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.” Matt 15:18,19 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”Matt 12:35-37 Honestly, if a servant of Christ cares for another servant of Christ , they would encourage them to stop eating “empty words”. Matt 16:12

This is a serious conversation between an individual and an elder, concerning Jesus’ apparent cleansing of the organization between the years of 1914-1919. (WT 7/15/2013 pg 11) He asks the elder a legitimate question, “what was this inspection and cleansing work that took place between 1914 and 1919”? I hope all JWs here, will take time to listen in. After 1919, the organiztion... Still celebrated Christmas until 1926 Believed in the cross until late 1920’s Celebrated birthdays until 1951 Still immersed in pyramidology teaching until 1928

After all that we've been through, and you're just now thinking about it?

@TrueTomHarley stated: "There are no “typical” Witnesses here, in my view, except for a few that occasionally stray here, sometimes naively offer comments, thinking persons will be readjusted, and then leave shocked when they discover that no way will it happen. On a few occasions, I have chased them away—it is fine for them to stay here if they wish, but they should know the score before they do. They should not think that Witness, for example, is some misguided sister that they can help with but a kind word or two." Yes Tom, I have more power to mislead a JW than 8 men put together. Incredible, isn’t it? Although with wolves, there is power in numbers. One thing about spiritual wolves among sheep, is that they rub shoulders with them, and gain their confidence. They speak soothing words with poison on their lips. Ps 140:3 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matt 7:15-20 Clear evidence that you reside among wolves is WT's failed, distorted, changed doctrine. CLEAR EVIDENCE, ACCORDING TO CHRIST. YET, IGNORED BY THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO REMAIN BLIND TO THE EVIDENCE. 2 Cor 4:1-4 Even the seemingly innocent ones led by wolves, can mislead a sheep through prophetic speculation; while also misleading oneself with one’s own, provocative lie. Perhaps you can explain how the focus of Daniel 11 switches from the trampling of the anointed "saints", over to the conquering of the entire world. Is God's Temple found in a government of the world? Is it found in a religion of the world? It is found in the hearts of the anointed ones, who are found in the organization. They are the target of Satan in the last days. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 Rev 20:7-9 “Then the king will do whatever he wants. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god, (John 10:34-36) and he will say outrageous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, because what has been decreed will be accomplished.” Dan 11:36,37 “It acted arrogantly even against the Prince of the heavenly army;(Rev 1:5) it revoked his regular sacrifice and overthrew the place of his sanctuary.” Dan 8:11 "His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the regular sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.” Dan 11:31 “His power will be great, but it will not be his own power. (Rev 13:14,15; 19:20) He will cause outrageous destruction and succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the powerful along with the holy people.” Dan 8:24 “He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s temple, proclaiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thess 2:4 "Then I was given a measuring reed like a rod, with these words: “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count those who worship there. 2 But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Don’t measure it, because it is given to the Gentiles, and they will trample the holy city for forty-two months." Rev 11:1,2 "Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust. " W 02/8/1 This is doctrine of men, that contradicts God's decrees found in the Bible. 2 Chron 13:9; 23:6,7; Num 18:7; Dan 9:27 (edited) If JWs say they love the scriptures, and love God, then I would hope they would research what is happening in their own corrupt organization, that calls itself "spirit-directed". Rev 13:15 Otherwise, to ignore God's decrees concerning HIS priesthood, is utter hypocrisy. The “man of lawlessness”/elder body conquers the priesthood by ruling over it; and halting, dissolving their priestly sacrifices of praise from their own lips; and instead, expecting them to regurgitate "fruit" that comes from a "bad tree"/wicked slave. Matt 24:48-51 (edited) The GB are not a conglomerate High Priest that directs the priesthood. That only, is Christ. Heb 5:5,6,9,10 The word for "bad" in Matt 7:15-20 above, means "corrupt" "unfit for use", "worthless". So, why do JWs continue in giving allegiance to 8 men who cannot produce "good" ("good constitution", "upright") fruit, since the evidence in scripture shows that bad fruit (spoiled, discarded teachings) does not grow on a "good tree"? We are, what we eat. "Iron and Clay" 4womaninthewilderness blogspot, Pearl Doxsey

Surely you don’t believe I expect you to spend hours replying to my comments. But, if you comment where I believe you have applied scripture wrongly, I may give my opinions, and my effort is that they are always in line with prophesy concerning the anointed “kings of the earth” who battle either for or against lies, in the last days. Rev 1:5;19:19; 21:24 I see you extending yourself beyond what your own leaders teach, yet your obvious confidence in your speculations and interpretations (even if they go beyond what they may say) stands as truth. But, that appears to be permissible. It’s the opposers who are out of line, confirmed by your repetitive, elitist, sweeping statement, that they are all, OCD. New people come here every day. My responses are not just to the person I direct them to, but to all JWs. Daniel’s fourth Beast is Revelation’s Beast from the Sea. Rev 13:1 Both, describe the major conflict that God’s “Israel”/anointed come against. Rev 13:5-7 They will not be "conquered" by nations who don't know who they are. Whatever you see in the world, and its activities that you are wholly immersed in, is a counterfeit fulfillment. You’ve ‘patterned’ your belief of the great tribulation and Armageddon, according to the world’s activities being played out in the literal nations. Just the title of this topic should give hint of the real war at hand, affecting all JWs – a dual power that destroys people’s lives and conquers the anointed ones. Rev 13:7 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Rom 12:2

What is the “Beautiful Land of verse 41? What is the “beautiful holy mountain” of verse 45? There is no land or mountain among the nations that is “beautiful” or “holy” to God, except for His owned “land”, His “special possession”. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:9, 16,17; Acts 7:49; Eph 2:20-22 Our heart is compared to soil. The “soil”/heart/land of an anointed one is the dwelling place of God. Luke 8:11,15; John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rom 5:5 This isn’t about nations in the world. Dan 11:31,32 speaks of the King of the North (Dan 11:40), desecrating “the temple fortress”, and is the abomination, the “disgusting thing” that causes desolation. The “temple fortress” is the “holy place” of Matt 24:15. also of 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2 It is God’s Temple in the anointed ones. (1 Cor 3:16,17) That is the only temple fortress that God would concern Himself with. The abomination causing desolation is the man of lawlessness, (2 Thess 2:3,4) and is the northern army spoken of in Joel 2:20 that rises against the anointed. (Joel 2:32) It is the same locust army of Revelation 9 that emerges from the abyss. A nation has invaded My land, a mighty army without number Joel 1:6 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes. Before them the land is like the garden of Eden, behind them, a desert waste— nothing escapes them. Joel 2:3 All of this, takes place where JWs reside. The “Gentile” elder body has “trampled”/ removed the holy priesthood, and abolished their “daily sacrifices” of praise. Dan 11:36 Instead, a counterfeit priesthood is on your podium, offering “spiritual sacrifices” on behalf of an organization. (1 Pet 2:5) Anything coming from the mouth of an anointed one, must be approved by a false prophet/fallen star who “releases” this army to come against the unsealed anointed priests. Rev 2:10; 8:10,11; 9:1-4; 13:16,17; 16:13,14 Looking into Satan’s world for prophesy fulfillment is exactly what he wants us to do in order to deceive the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed”. Rev 12:1-4 The anointed are Satan’s greatest threat to the loss of his kingdom. China is not. Russia is not. Any nation fighting for or against them is not. But, when the last faithful “living stones” are sealed into the temple, Satan's end is imminent. 1 Cor 15:23-26; Rev 12:7,17 In the meantime, he will take down all whom he can using signs and wonders in the world, (2 Thess 2:9,10) and a “mountainlike organization"/fortress (Dan 11:38) to deceive and distract from his real plan of destroying his adversary, the anointed. Gen 3:15;Rev 20:7-10; Zech 4:7-10 Matt 16:1-3; 24:4,23,24 For consideration: "Gentile Times"/"Great Tribulation"/Cleansed Priesthood Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot

“(to give the correct perspective)” “Hardened in their pattern of thinking” “But remain totally uninvolved” “defend the truth” Arauna, do you remember your comment on my post about the locust? I didn’t see you remaining totally uninvolved there. Do you also remember the Watchtower’s new adjustment on the identity of the locusts of both Revelation and Joel? Have you adjusted your own hardened pattern of thinking to bring it in line with new ‘truth’ concerning their absolute need to make it clear that the locust in Joel 2 are not the same army as the one in Revelation 9? Are you prepared to give the (new )correct perspective (that of the WT) when confronted with this topic? What truth do you defend today that is different than the truth you defended two years ago? Some of us have preferred to harden our pattern of thinking in line with Christ’s truth that we recognize in the scriptures, and that other anointed have offered. To do this, we have “changed the way we think” about men who stumble repeatedly, over their own version of “truth”. Rom 12:2 We have realized not only is their truth fake, but so are they. Luke 21:8; Rev 8:10,11; 13:11 So, we who spent a good chunk of our lives believing in something fake, now have an ax to grind with the WT. We want those whom we love, to wake up to their own captivity to empty philosophy. Col 2:8; Rev 13:10 If you and others like you would just wake up, I can guarantee that you in particular, would join us, since I see it in your personality. (OCD) Eph 5:8-14 The word truth is tossed around between us - between both sides. There is only one "truth" and it never needs to be discarded. That "truth" comes only from Christ. John 14:6; John 15:7,8,16; 2 Tim 2:15 Eph 6:14 - "Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place" How many times have you changed your "belt of truth" since being a JW? Perhaps dictionaries should include an addendum to the definition of truth – “Truth as taught by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society: ‘new light’” I know, “OCD” .

Many were baptized into the organization before the stipulation was made of dedicating oneself to the organization. When one of those individuals baptized in the early 80's and before, wakes up to their own captivity under the rules of men (Col 2:20-23); and persistently rejects the organization today, should that be termed a gross sin, requiring shunning or disfellowshipping? Do God's rules ever change? Or, is it men changing their rules; who operate an organization,and devise new and improved 'hard and fast rules' necessary to keep the flock penned in, for their apparent 'safety'? Stay in Jehovah’s organization! It’s the only way of life that brings happiness.” W 10/6/15 pg 9,10 Here is God's rule through Christ: Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:7-10 Jesus is the only way to life, according to his words. He is not an organization; yet, the organization "kills" those who reject it, and turn to Christ. Not only does it rob people away from Christ, but it threatens people with loss of family, and home for rejecting it. It is truly, a thieving BEAST. Rev 13:1,4-10, 11,15; 11:1-3,7; 18:4-8

None of us here, walked the earth when Jesus did. None of us, can know for certain if his hair was always washed, neat and trimmed with a good pair of scissors. Especially, during the 40 days and nights he spent in the wilderness, which was the theme of the painting by the Russian artist. But, there is one thing that I am most confident in knowing. Jesus Christ today, does not wear a red, comical superman cape, that your leaders have taken the liberty in assuming he does. They've really stretched the boundary of scripture there, haven't they!

So there is no distinction between what the Catholics thought Jesus looked like, and the organization. Hmmm. No spiritual insight by those in “Jehovah’s organization” (yes, I said it again) that Jesus was a native Jew and probably took on the characteristics of a native Jew, as his cousin John the Baptist did in the drawing above. You are telling me that no distinction is seen in this area between Christendom's perception and the organization's perception. By today’s standards, does the organization have it right yet? This is a painting of Christ which I believe reveals the suffering he experienced, walking his path in truth while on earth. The Russian painter , not a JW, seemed to comprehend Isa 53:2 He produced this painting in 1872. "He grew up before him like a young plant and like a root out of dry ground. He didn't have an impressive form or majesty that we should look at him, no appearance that we should desire him." The following are the organization’s drawings of Jesus. Notice the terrific hairdos, always nicely manicured. I mean, it's a layered cut. What is more important, the outer appearance of a man, or what lies in his heart? John 6:63; Matt 15:18,19 The way the organization depicts Jesus, is the way JWs are to appear to others in the world. Physical appearance regarding people, their dress, the appearance of buildings, and whatever else we can see with our eyes, are of utmost importance. How the organization is viewed in a worldly way takes precedence over its ability to produce sound, lasting, spiritual truth. The WT's sins, are covered over carefully by this facade of eye-catching desirability. As Jesus told the Pharisees, Then the Lord said to him, “Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness." Luke 11:39 The message behind the first picture expresses the thought that the glory of Jesus, is perceived only with spiritual eyes. John 13:31,32 No wonder the organization draws Jesus as it does. He is seen through the eyes of worldly men, who treasure their worldly possessions; forgetting that God sees all of us far differently. And he told them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the sight of others, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly admired by people is revolting in God's sight. Luke 16:15 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or his stature because I have rejected him. Humans do not see what the LORD sees, for humans see what is visible, but the LORD sees the heart." 1 Sam 16:17 Am I a Christian? I bore testimony to Christ, and I was disfellowshipped for it. Luke 21:12-15; John 16:2; Rev 13:15; 11:7

Good observation concerning David Splane's September, 2019 Broadcast.

Through the eyes of a Catholic and not through the eyes of a member of "Jehovah's organization".

So, these new adjustments by God's people, no matter how small; like portraying Christ as blond and blue-eyed while his dark, curly haired cousin baptized him, could be influenced by society 's (of the world) viewpoint at the time? They could be influenced by the circumstances governing the world? Yes, I believe you are right. Judge Rutherford's Letter to Hitler Translation of the letter sent by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, German Branch, Wachtturmstraasse 1-19, Magdeburg/Germany to Hitler. Excerpts: "In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and ist board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to re pudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews." "We demand the freedom of all religious denominations within the state, as far as they do not endanger the state itself or violate the moral values of the German race. The party as such represents the viewpoint of positive Christianity without being attached to any particular denomination. It fights against the Jewish-materialistic spirit inside and outside of us and is convinced that any recovery of the German people can only take place from the inside out." https://www.jwfacts.com/pdf/letter-to-hitler.pdf

Thanks, I found the same on reddit: “The locusts of Joel Chapter 2 no longer refer to Jehovah's Witnesses and events surrounding 1919. The locusts in Revelation chapter 22 however still do refer to the anointed, but are now no longer connected with the prophecy on Joel. Joel 2 now refers to the "Babylonians", the coalition of nations that will try to destroy God's people. The context of Joel chapter 2 points the time period of fulfilment to Jehovah's Day in the Great Tribulation and how God will save his people.” JWs, see “Live with Jehovah’s Day in Mind” (pg 172,173; par 12, 2006), which refers to that day’s present “truth”, concerning Revelation and Joel’s locusts defined as “God’s people”. How is it, that the organization’s leaders just recently realize that the locusts in the book of Joel are out to destroy God’s people? Joel 2:25,27-32 Locusts have never been portrayed as a good thing in the scriptures. In Revelation, why would God consider His own people as a devastating plague? Both Revelation and Joel refer to the last days, Armageddon. Joel 3:14,15; Rev 16:13-16 They both refer to a foreign nation coming against God’s holy people. Joel 1:6; Rev 9:4; Rev 11:1,2;13:7 It appears Mr. Splane is basically saying there are two locust armies present in the last days, sharing the same characteristics. Do the good guys and the bad guys spiritually, look and act exactly the same; as horses with lion’s heads, dark, foreboding, chewing, destructive by use of fiery words filled with ugly intentions? JWs, I hope if you compare the scriptures, you can determine they are the same army that comes against God’s “saints” in the last days. That army resides with you, as the elder body ruling over God’s “land”; his anointed priesthood, (1 Pet 2:5,9) who do not have the seal of God upon their foreheads. (Rev 9:4) Instead, they carry the mark of an organization; the “mark of the Beast” which is the mark of an idol. You receive this mark not only at your baptism, but through your activities all performed for the organization. Rev 13:16,17 Anyone who recognize this destructive army and refuse to acknowledge its power over him, is “killed” – disfellowshipped; which also, removes the mark of the Beast. Rev 13:1,4-10,15; 19:20 Elders here, would not consider themselves as destructive. Only by researching God's early priesthood and comparing today's necessary obedience of His priesthood under Christ, to a GB and massive army of elders, would anyone realize how this duel leadership is one of blasphemy, according to God's decrees. Dan 11:31; 8:11; Rev 11:2; 1 Cor 3:16; 1 Pet 2:9; Mal 2:7; Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9 We cannot serve two Masters. Matt 6:24 We cannot proclaim both the doctrine of God and Christ, and the doctrine of men. They conflict; for one is pure, from God; and the other is corruptive, as proven by Splane’s effort to veil the power given to his own army, through which his spiritual “brothers” are silenced and restricted from bonding together. Matt 24:48-51 To allow the anointed to gather together, is a threatening act toward the exposure of truth. 1 John 2:20 So, they claim it would threaten the unity of all JWs in the organization. I so wish you could see how this is emotional and spiritual blackmail committed toward the "royal priesthood". The only way to make a selling point of their doctrine on the locusts, is to separate the identities. However, one anointed woman saw the true meaning of the locusts in Joel and Revelation, several years ago. Her messages have made it necessary for Watchtower to change its “truth”. “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness I hope you take time to compare the scriptures about the locusts from both Joel and Revelation: Joel 1:6: For a nation has come up against My land, Strong, and without number; His teeth are the teeth of a lion, And he has the fangs of a fierce lion. Rev 9:8: They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. ~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 1:4: What the chewing locust left, the swarming locust has eaten; What the swarming locust left, the crawling locust has eaten; And what the crawling locust left, the consuming locust has eaten. Rev 9:3: “Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.” Ezek 2:6: “And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and you dwell among scorpions; do not be afraid of their words or dismayed by their looks, though they are a rebellious house.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 2:2: “A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations.” Joel 2:10: “The earth quakes before them, The heavens tremble; The sun and moon grow dark, And the stars diminish their brightness.” Rev 9:2,3: “And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. Ezek 2:6: “And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and you dwell among scorpions; do not be afraid of their words or dismayed by their looks, though they are a rebellious house.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 2:4: “Their appearance is like the appearance of horses; And like swift steeds, so they run.” (KJV – “and they galloped like war horses”) Rev 9:7: “The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men.” Rev 9:17: “And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.” (1 Pet 5:8) Rev 9:19: For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm. 1 Pet 5:8: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” Ezek 2:6 - “And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them nor be afraid of their words” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 2:5: “With a noise like chariots Over mountaintops they leap, Like the noise of a flaming fire that devours the stubble, Like a strong people set in battle array.” Rev 9:9: “And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 2:6: “Before them the people writhe in pain; All faces are drained of color.” Rev 9:5,6: “And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel 2:3: “A fire devours before them, And behind them a flame burns; The land is like the Garden of Eden before them, And behind them a desolate wilderness; Surely nothing shall escape them.” Rev 9:18: “By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.” Rev 9:20: “But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk.” (Zech 13:8; Rev 2:16; Rev 13:10) Joel 1:6: “For a nation has come up against My land, Strong, and without number; His teeth are the teeth of a lion, And he has the fangs of a fierce lion.” Jer 5:17-19: “And they shall eat up your harvest and your bread, Which your sons and daughters should eat. They shall eat up your flocks and your herds; They shall eat up your vines and your fig trees; They shall destroy your fortified cities, In which you trust, with the sword. 18 “Nevertheless in those days,” says the Lord, “I will not make a complete end of you. 19 And it will be when you say, ‘Why does the Lord our God do all these things to us?’ then you shall answer them, ‘Just as you have forsaken Me and served foreign gods in your land, so you shall serve strangers in a land that is not yours.’ Rev 9:4: “ They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” Rev 7:3: saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

One lie flipped for another. Can you tell me their "new" understanding?

I wondered the same thing about 6 years ago, when just leaving the WT. Definitely, it can give a person a "strong headache"! What I realized when it was pointed out to me, is that the answer is right in this set of scriptures. Satan contrives the delusion, not God. "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works." God "sends" the delusion by allowing it to happen. He allowed Satan to test Job's integrity, by removing the protective "hedge" around him. Job 1:9-12 And, since Satan demands to sift each one of us as "wheat", God allows it. Luke 22:31 I'm taking the liberty to post my question and the answer I received. I hope it helps alleviate the headache. http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/who-is-to-blame.html

When we make excuses for men who have misled millions with doctrinal lies (because failed doctrine is a lie), who are we supporting; the God of Truth, or the god of the lie? 1 Thess 2:13 When men say they represent Christ, but fail to provide millions of people with true doctrine (“this generation”/thousand years, the true Temple of God…) and we accept their fallacious excuse (Belief Clarified), who are we supporting; Jesus Christ who is Truth, or the god of the lie? John 8:44-47; 14:6 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their *testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Rev 12:10,11 Those of God's people who fully defend God and Christ in truth, by speaking against lies, (their "testimony") are spiritually killed by the "spirit-breathed" Beast/organization. John 16:2; Rev 13:15 They are spiritually killed/disfellowshipped by the Watchtower organization - "Jehovah's spirit-directed organization". They refuse to "worship", give any credence, respect or value, to the Beast". Rev 13:4 They did not love their "lives" in the Beast, more than their love for God, Jesus and Truth. Thus, they personally cast Satan down. “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings (GB and elders) for My sake, as a *testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. 21 “Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes. Matt 10:16-23

The human flaws continue down to this day. WT doctrine is not truth. Your own leaders say they make errors in doctrine. What’s around the corner? They baited you with truth, then fed you lies called truth. Rev 8:10,11; Heb 12:15 We were warned of captivity to “empty philosophy”, a deviation from the teachings of Christ, but JWs continue drinking it in. Col 2:8; Matt 24:4,5; Rev 13:10; 18:3 What is preached during the last days to “Israel”? Matt 10:23 2 Thess 2:3,4: “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” Christ calls his servants to expose the man of lawlessness who oppresses the anointed members of Christ’s Body/Temple of God. This is the message. Rev 11:1-3 You speak of those who stood up against Moses, as if the organization and its leaders are another "Moses” and the nation of Israel. The comparison is so often made, but its origin is from your leaders; of which I am very sorry. Moses is so much more in the limelight than Christ Jesus, since the GB compare themselves to Moses as well as the apostles...when necessary to support their spurious role. It is your leaders who are standing up against the Son of God by replacing the priesthood, with “Gentiles”/elders who “set themselves up” to rule over the anointed Temple of God. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 13:5-7 My gosh, do you really believe that elders have God’s authority to teach, judge and disfellowship His own priesthood of “kings”? Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10 Ezek 44:8; Num 18:7 And that’s okay with JWs…without considering God’s word; His view of His “special possession” and what to expect of them. This was Korah’s desire also, to do things his way, not God’s way. Your leaders make their rules and regulations totally contradictory of God’s, which includes idolatry toward an earthly organization that you believe brings salvation. Col 2:20-23 Even through scriptures, that you say you believe whole-heartedly in, we see that Christ is salvation, not an earthly organization. Act 4:12; John 10:7-10 Christ and the Father. Who are not attached to earthly things. Luke 12:34 Who have an organization, which is the TEMPLE/”144,000”/Bride/New Jerusalem/Holy City. They have had it since the first century. Your organization is a little more than a hundred years old and JWs believe it is what God NOW wants? And you believe God turns a blind eye to all that the Watchtower has done? He doesn’t. For anyone who has eyes that see, it’s time to get out of the Watchtower. Matt 24:15,16; Luke 17:26-37 The Watchtower's existence was foretold by both Daniel and John. We're here; the fourth Beast/organization has trampled the priesthood, allowed by a false prophet/Beast/Harlot. Rev 13:15; 16:13,14; 17:1 Revelation concerns God's wayward people, NOT Christendom. And, if you recall, many; no, the majority, in the nation of Israel who continually followed their own thinking and worshiped false gods, lost their lives. God removed His protection and allowed the nations to step in, causing oppression, and suffering. Our God and His decrees, His judgment and His laws have not changed, but are fulfilled in Christ - the Head of the Temple of God. The same Temple that is replaced by an organization in Satan's realm. Rev 18:4-8; Rev 19:20 2 Thess 2:9-12: The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. edited

I don't know why. Citing something from an interlinear makes me desperate? Besides, Allen, you did a lot of copy/pasting yourself. Oh dear. I know you'll agree that rotten fruit (spiritual food) is evident when a “prophesy” or doctrine doesn’t come to fruition or needs radical change. (Matt 15:9; John 7:18; Gal 1:8; 2 Cor 11:4) Have you checked what lies under Watchtower’s “trees” lately ? A cluttered tool box bursting at its seams of countless books no longer in use, magazines and brochures buried in landfills, or used as fire starters – worldwide! Pure hog slop. (Isa 65:2-7) Jesus stated that a good tree cannot produce both good and rotten fruit. All evidence points to WT’s leaders as the producers of bumper crops of rotten fruit, and it will continue...because a leopard cannot change its spots. Jer 13:23 “Beware of false prophets. They come to you disguised as sheep, but in their hearts they are vicious wolves. 16 You will know them by what they produce. “People don’t pick grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles, do they? 17 In the same way every good tree produces good fruit, but a rotten tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a rotten tree cannot produce good fruit. 19 Any tree that fails to produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into a fire. 20 So you will know them by what they produce.” Matt 7:15-20 You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you. John 15:16 I so wish you could listen to the words of Christ and hear their meaning. JWs are sadly, stiff-necked, thinking God will excuse them for causing His people to believe in lies - for over a hundred years. (God’s anointed are compared to trees. Ps 104:16; Isa 10:33; Ezek 47:7; Zech 4:12-14; Rev 11:3,4; Matt 3:10; 12:33-37; 7:20) (Of interest, “Who are the Fine Trees?” 4womaninthewilderness blogspot)

I don't understand where this quote comes from. From the NASB? Whoops. That wouldn’t apply to the GB, since they regress and then, redo their doctrine pretty regularly. Their offerings are soon to be labeled, “rotten fruit” which does not attribute to spiritual growth. Matt 7:15-20 Heb 13:17, NWT: “Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive” Why does the NWT use this interpretation, and I don’t see it anywhere else? Could it be because the GB, who act like apostles, and along with the elders, have taken the lead over all anointed ones through pure assumption on their part? 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 13:4-8,11,15 You are fully aware of the changes in doctrine of the “faithful and discreet slave”. You also see that the GB are now completely ‘ruling over’ the entire spiritual house of God; not as a faithful steward, but a wicked one who silence any who may disagree with them. Matt 24:48-51 The threat of disfellowshipping, is their polished sword - a control method, effectively used to protect their rule. Luke 21:12-17; John 16:2; Rev 13:15; 11:3,7 The apostles never ‘took’ the lead, but were given spiritual authority over truth, as a divine appointment. They didn’t have to take it, since Holy Spirit inspired them to lead in truth. Is the GB inspired? They say no; so, they have “taken the lead” without divine guidance from God. The apostles, with the prophets and Christ as the chief cornerstone, are the foundation of the anointed Temple. Eph 2:20 The GB are the foundation of an organization in this world; which has nothing to do with the organization outlined by God. Eph 2:20-22 What are the predominate requirements of an organization in the world? The way to invest its money, how to grow successfully by appealing advertising, how to protect all earthly interests and real-estate investments, how to win lawsuits. Where does truth come in? The organization may be thriving (?) by worldly standards, but it fails continually when it comes to scripture. The apostles solely concentrated on Christ’s teachings and nothing connected to the works of futility offered by the world. " Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. 18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things." Phil 3:17-19 The GB have assumed the role of “apostles” to support another “temple”, and they follow the very situation of rule Jesus said not to do in Luke 22:25,26 Heb 13:7 “ Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account” NIV: "Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. " Scriptures4all Interlinear: BE-YE-beING-PERSUADED to-THE ones-LEADING OF-YOU AND BE-YE-UNDER-SIMULATING they for ARE-beING-vigilant OVER THE souls OF-YOU…. There are persons who are leaders in their field of expertise; medicine, scholarly teaching, protection (firefighters, police), technology… We can be ‘persuaded’by and "have confidence" in what they offer us through the knowledge they possess, and “submit” to their lead, knowing that by disregarding their lead of expertise, we may end up making unwise choices; possibly affecting our life. Spiritually speaking, during the apostle’s day those newly joining the body, as well as all believing in Christ, submitted to apostle’s lead to learn, and spiritually, live. Those “leaders” in the Body of Christ did watch over the souls of those whom they taught the words of Christ. These new ones were compared to babes, children. Does not a growing child obey its parent’s direction? Wasn’t it the aim of Paul to see individuals mature in Christ? 1 Cor 4:15 - "For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel." "Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking, 2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby, 3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious. " 1 Pet 2:2 "For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness—God is witness. 6 Nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, when we might have made demands as apostles of Christ. 7 But we were gentle among you, just as a nursing mother cherishes her own children. 8 So, affectionately longing for you, we were well pleased to impart to you not only the gospel of God, but also our own lives, because you had become dear to us." 1 Thess 2:5-8 "Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults." 1 Cor 14:20 "For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the sayings of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." Heb 5:12,13 In Matt 23:10, Jesus was the apostle’s Master, a Master leader in the Word of God. This is a better translation: “Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ.” There is a distinct difference made between the apostles as leaders ,and Christ as our Master. The apostles did not usurp the role of their Head Master, by dominating their brothers and sisters. The GB does dominate the lives of others through rules and regulations established by men. Col 2:20-23 The word for “master” in the following two scriptures means, “he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord” “the owner; one who has control of the person, the master” “Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.” Rom 14:4 “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matt 6:24 I will not imitate the faith of men who speak their own twisted version of God’s word, with a failed record of prophesy trailing behind them. I will not follow their lead or the lead of the elder body who parrot their teachings. No one should. The GB fully put faith and trust in themselves, and not in God. The true “leaders” in God’s Word are already outlined in scripture. Heb 13:7,8 "Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."