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  1. Perhaps it should be in this order: 1) real estate and money ?? 2) members ??
  2. WHAT? I'm sorry, but you are lying, totally. Do you really think I care what the GB thinks of me? What do you think of the anointed in your organization vs. the elder body? THAT is what matters. The "Gentile" elder body is "defiling" the Temple of God. Rev 11:1,2 1 Cor 3:16,17 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. You're forgetting what a "new creation" is - both spirit and human. Even while on the earth, God's spirit dwells in them. 2 Cor 5:16,17 - Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Nothing about the following scriptures shows an anointed one must WAIT to act as a priest while on earth: "Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. "But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light" 1 Pet 2:5,9 "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel." Heb 12:22-24
  3. I answer your comments to me, as presenting the spiritual aspect of truth to any who may be interested. Jesus told the Pharisees, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah.” And He left them and went away.” Matt 16: Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.” 39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; 40 for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt 12:38-40 To involve oneself in the business of the politics and religions of the world is dabbling in the spirit of the world. Satan is the originator of the “signs and false wonders” to deceive. 2 Thess 2:9 The sign Jesus gave to the Pharisees had to do with him, not the world’s business. Obviously, even though he gave them the “sign”, they still rejected him. He fulfilled the sign and they refused to accept it, because they wanted to see more, what their eyes could physically see, just as JWs want to see more than the spiritual sign: At that time two robbers were crucified with Him, one on the right and one on the left. 39 And those passing by were hurling abuse at Him, wagging their heads 40 and saying, “You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross/(stake).” 41 In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were mocking Him and saying, 42 “He saved others; He cannot save Himself. He is the King of Israel; let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe in Him. 43 He trusts in God; let God rescue Him now, if He delights in Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” 44 The robbers who had been crucified with Him were also insulting Him with the same words. Matt 27:38-44 …just as Satan wanted Jesus to do: Matt 4:6 – “and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written, ‘He will command His angels concerning You’; and ‘On their hands they will bear You up, So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’” During the last days, the “sign” has to do with the anointed of the Body of Christ, under the New Covenant. The Kingdom will not arrive until the Temple built on Christ is completed, with the correct number of faithful and refined “living stones” sealed into it. Zech, chapter 4. God will then say at the right time , “it is enough”, “and judgment is made in favor of the saints to possess the kingdom.” (Dan 7:21,22,13,14; Matt 24:30) Does that happen in Satan’s world, or in the “heavens”? The purging, cleansing of the “heavens and earth” by fire, involves the “kings of the earth” – the anointed of Christ. (1 Cor 3:12-15; 2 Pet 3:7; Jer 23:29; Rev 1:5) The war against “nations and kingdoms” (Matt 24:6-8) is a war of truth against lies spoken by Christ’s “kings of the earth” – between those who become unfaithful, and those who are faithful to their Head. Jesus faced a “son of perdition” who delivered him up to be killed for speaking truth; the anointed also face a “man of lawlessness/son of perdition” who, under the direction of unfaithful anointed, have them spiritually “killed” for representing Christ and not an organization of men. This is happening now. (Matt 24:15,16; Luke 21:12; John 16:2; Matt 25:40,45,46; (Acts 9:5) 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 13:1,2,6,7; 11:1-3,7) Will they stand up for Christ or continue allowing a wicked slave feed them lies? (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 16:13,14) Each anointed is tested by Satan, they are presented lies, and either refined by truth in Christ or they continue to follow “false prophets” who “deceive the elect”. (Matt 24:24; Rev 2:20; Rev 13:11,12) They are accused and slandered by Satan and those he uses against them for rejecting falsehoods. If Jesus had become unfaithful to God and the testimony he was to give, he wouldn’t have been killed. He would have been accepted by the Pharisees. Matt 16:25 The signs of the end are spiritual signs that play out in the organization and the anointed, not among the nations of the world. JWs forget that the Kingdom won’t arrive without God’s right number of anointed being found with “no lie in their mouth”, “pure and blameless” with Christ Jesus as their Head, not listening to men who have a history of false doctrine. (Rev 14:4,5; Phil 2:15; Jude 1:12,13) Perhaps your definition of truth is WT’s definition, but it isn’t God’s definition. JWs seem to disregard the parable of the ten virgins. (Matt 25) They forget that the anointed under the New Covenant “woman” WILL be tested by Satan. (Luke 22:31; Rev 12:1-4) All of these things are signs that should have great meaning for us if we desire to live in the Kingdom: not whether two nations are at war, or the Pope has made some peace pact with other religions. The coming of the Kingdom is based on the faithfulness of the anointed in Christ. Maybe @Srecko Sostar can find the quote on truth for me, that he posted a while back, on truth’s simplicity. What JWs believe, is a twisted, complicated mess that leads one questioning, wondering what is truth and what is a lie – what was truth yesterday, what it will be tomorrow, or a year from now. God's word is life; Jesus' teachings are life. If you were to read them and saw an error, since I am not always accurate in typing them down, I would fix the error. The opinion of someone is just an opinion, unless it is backed by God's word completely. (Rom 3:4) Well, we are on two different planes; yours is the continual blow-by-blow physical enactment of what’s going on in Satan’s world; mine is the spiritual, since Jesus stated his kingdom is “not of this world”. John 18:36 If we are both “OCD”, what of it? What is important is truth, no matter how much it is repeated. And after the birth of God’s Kingdom in 1914, it was Satan who began “to wage war” with the remnant of anointed ones. (Rev. 12:17) W 15/5/15 pp. 14-18 Those events from 1914 onward were, as Jesus put it, “a beginning of pangs of distress.” (Matthew 24:8) pr section 7 pp. 25-28 Wt’s Greek Kingdom Interlinear: “Will rise up nation upon nation and kingdom against kingdom and will be famines and [earth] quakes down on places; all but these (things) beginning of pangs of birth” Matt 24:8 1914? You have had children. Since when do birth pangs/pains follow birth? And why would the Watchtower not translate their Bible as their Interlinear reads, as “beginning of pangs of BIRTH” if not to support their lie about 1914? But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable. 11 And He said to them, “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, 12 so that ‘Seeing they may see and not perceive, And hearing they may hear and not understand; Lest they should turn, And their sins be forgiven them.’ ” Mark 4:10-12 Pearl Doxsey - "Labor Pains" 4womaninthewilderness
  4. One more thing. I thoroughly worship YHWH, much easier than under the thumb of false teachings and men who spread them.
  5. This is all I will comment on. Human intelligence, which can include “the wisdom of the world” does not bring us to the Kingdom; and we can’t say the GB are moved spiritually, because they have admitted they are not. 1 Cor 2:12-14 MOSES had direct contact with God. Num 12:6-8 How can you even GO THERE and make the comparison of eight blundering men covering over their mistakes by blaming them on Christ…to MOSES? Josh 1:7 Just to do so, shows you have replaced Christ, whom Moses spoke of his coming, and that we should listen to …with a “body of men” - lacking Holy Spirit - to lead you. If the organization is "led by a body of men" who are " much more intelligent than being led by one man,” why isn’t there a prophesy in the Bible, directing one to your leaders? Please read: “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him. 16 This is what you requested from the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, ‘Let us not continue to hear the voice of the Lord our God or see this great fire any longer, so that we will not die!’ 17 Then the Lord said to me, ‘They have spoken well. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 I will hold accountable whoever does not listen to My words that he speaks in My name. 20 But the prophet who dares to speak a message in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that prophet must die.’ 21 You may say to yourself, ‘How can we recognize a message the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the Lord’s name, and the message does not come true or is not fulfilled, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. Deut 18:15-22 Do you understand what this is saying? Your leaders will be held accountable for every failed, wrong teaching they have taught as “truth”. Every one of them; such as all the dates for Armageddon, “this generation” and its changes, 1914 and 1975. Check the misnomer, “Beliefs Clarified”. Jer 23:16 And there are many you still believe are “truth” when indeed, they are lies. As someone said in a video about religion, “God the Creator equals truth, and the truth is always true. You don’t get to pick and choose truth.“
  6. You are right. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14-14 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside the understanding of the experts. 20 Where is the philosopher? Where is the scholar? Where is the debater of this age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish? 21 For since, in God’s wisdom, the world did not know God through wisdom, God was pleased to save those who believe through the foolishness of the message preached. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles. 24 Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God’s power and God’s wisdom, 25 because God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength. 1 Cor 1:19-25 The Lord said: Because these people approach Me with their mouths to honor Me with lip-service — yet their hearts are far from Me, and their worship consists of man-made rules learned by rote— therefore I will again confound these people with wonder after wonder. The wisdom of their wise men will vanish, and the understanding of the perceptive will be hidden. 15 Woe to those who go to great lengths to hide their plans from the Lord. They do their works in darkness, and say, “Who sees us? Who knows us?” You have turned things around, as if the potter were the same as the clay. How can what is made say about its maker, “He didn’t make me”? How can what is formed say about the one who formed it, “He doesn’t understand what he’s doing”? Isa 29:13-16 Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. He answered them: “When evening comes you say, ‘It will be good weather because the sky is red.’ 3 And in the morning, ‘Today will be stormy because the sky is red and threatening.’ You know how to read the appearance of the sky, but you can’t read the signs of the times. Matt 16:1-3
  7. What else did God say? A voice came from the cloud, saying, "This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him." Luke 9:35 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” 34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.” 35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. Each wrong, failed teaching by the WT's leaders, and there is an extensive list of them, is indication of spiritual famine. Jesus does not teach error and would not tolerate it among those who claim to be under his guidance. Amos 8:11; Matt 7:7-11 We are to discern this among the anointed ones. Matt 7:15-20 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of Him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” John 6:33-40 Yes, Jesus does worship the Father. Satan does not. Satan’s challenge made to Jesus had one underlying intention, to see him fall from God’s glory. Any organized religion that boasts of its accomplishments; its buildings, its uninspired leaders who teach their sheep to be proud of what they have built in the world of Satan, does not worship the Father. 5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.” Luke 4:5,6 The “preaching work” in the last days before Christ returns, is directed by Christ and Holy Spirit – to God’s “Israel”, (Matt 10:23) who admire and worship a “Beast” organization directed by a “false prophet”. Rev 11:1-3; Matt 24:24; Rev 13:1,2,11,15 Christ has sent his servants who have been disfellowshipped/”killed” by your organization to “sound the trumpet” to his people, to turn to their Head, Jesus Christ – buying “gold”, TRUTH, from him. Joel 2:1; Rev 3:18; Rev 18:4-8 Or, they too, will fall from God’s glory. James 1:12 Satan demands to “sift” each anointed one as “wheat” (Luke 22:31); in fact all in the WT face his powerful deception and must make a choice to either serve God through His Son, or serve men and their organization. 2 Thess 2:9-12 In the last days, he has devised a scheme that appears to be sanctioned by God and Christ, when in reality it diverts away from pure worship to be given to the true God and His Son. “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; (“congregation”) in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.” John 16:2 JWs do not “render sacred service to God alone”, since they render as captive slaves, service to the organization; material pursuits of men. Matt 6:24; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. John 14:8-11 WT 74/7/1 p. 407 “Are you willing to accept Jehovah’s way for salvation? In this twentieth century we have an example of humility, of lowliness of mind, that is found world wide. It is in the organization of Jehovah’s witnesses.” No it is not. “Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” John 10:7-10 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well.” John 14:6,7a
  8. Well sir, you have just condemned millions of your past brethren. It is confusing, isn’t it. It can cause us to see red. Satan easily takes truth and spins it into a lie, just as easily as he takes a lie and builds on it; giving it many different faces. “No one that I knew about even questioned the appointment of Brother Knorr,” says C. W. Barber, “and everyone was determined to stand shoulder to shoulder supporting him and proving our devotion to Jehovah’s organization." yb75 pp. 183-256 This is one reason why I left the organization. I had fallen into idolatry. I now give exclusive devotion to the Father in heaven and not to an earthly organization. Isaiah 46:5 I do not attach any earthly entity to my God. I do not bow down to men and their false doctrine. I obey the teachings of, and am devoted to, my King, Jesus Christ who is the "husband" of his Bride. 2 Cor 11:2; Rev 19:16; Rev 22:17
  9. Here are a few more for you: “Jehovah God commands all to worship Christ Jesus because Christ Jesus is the express image of his Father, Jehovah, and because he is the Executive Officer of Jehovah always carrying out Jehovah’s purpose (Heb.:3-6).” WT 1939/11/15, p. 339 “During the Millennium, “the princes will lead the people in their worship of Jehovah and of Christ.” Vindication Volume 3 (J. F. Rutherford, 1932) p.295 “The people of all nations who obtain salvation must come to the house of the Lord to worship there; that is to say, they must believe on and worship Jehovah God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his chief instrument (Philippians 2:10, 11).”Salvation (J. F. Rutherford, 1939) p.151
  10. I really think you need to take a step back in time and analyze your organization’s beliefs. Firstly, no one has been given the authority to change scripture as your leaders have done with the Bible. Do you agree? If anyone twists its meaning as the WT has concerning the word for “worship”, we have every right to reject those who do so: “They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.” Matt 7:7,13 Yes they have and do “many things like that”. 2 Tim 2:16 Secondly, revisit the earlier WT teachings: “Although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, it evidently could not be improper to do so; for such a course is nowhere prohibited, and the disciples worshiped him” (Zion’s Watch Tower, 1892). Do you see that? Nowhere in the Bible does it say we cannot worship Christ. “Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so” (Zion’s Watch Tower, 1898). “For this reason God has highly exalted him and given him a name above every name and commands that all creatures in heaven shall worship the Son as he worships the Father. Phil 2:5-11” (WT August 15,1941, p. 252) Whosoever should worship Him must also worship and bow down to Jehovah’s Chief One in that capital organization, namely, Christ Jesus…” (The Watchtower, 1945, p. 313). Do you consider all JWs from that time period, as “false worshipers”? Were they “opposers of God Himself” as you say I am? How do you reckon with just this one of many changed teachings of your organization? A “true religion” is know by its “fruits” – its teachings. The WT’s teachings have never been sound, they have never been reliable. Jesus who provides Spirit to those anointed who “remain in him”, teach consistent truth. If they don’t, they are “bad trees”, ready to be cut down and thrown in the fire. Matt 7:15-20; 3:10; John 15:4-6 "Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. 1 Cor 4:1-6 You don’t see God’s glorious light reflected in the face of Christ, because your leaders, who have no spiritual conscience, have snuffed it out. I am truly sorry. “Glory”, Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
  11. You must think I believe in the trinity. I don't. John 14:28; 5:19 Yes, God is greater than any other being. Jesus was His firstborn creation, the Son of God, and it was through Jesus that God brought forth creation. Prov 8:22:31 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.” Col 1:15-17 As the Logos, (John 1:1) he worked as one with God throughout time, and with the nation of Israel. As an example: "Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. "1 Cor 10:1-4 Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. 55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” John 8:54-58 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? (John 5:41-44) Do you see that God has bestowed honor on His Son? What about glory? And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. John 17:5 And you believe God does not want us to give relative worship to His Son? Are there any examples where Jesus told those who did worship him when on earth, to stop doing so? The GB, who have admitted that they do not receive inspiration from the Holy Spirit, have assumed that they can change scripture to reflect partiality to whom is to be worshiped - scripture that is inspired by God. This effort comes from the minds of men to push a doctrine. They will be responsible for concocting the doctrine that Christ is not to receive any worship. Jesus is a God. He is the Son of God. For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6 God is looking for those who do not view any physical mountain as a place to worship – no “mountainlike organization”. That includes the earthly Watchtower and its images, built in the world influenced by Satan. John 4:21-24 Zion is spiritual only, built with anointed “living stones”, the Spirit of God, and Christ as the chief cornerstone. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 When you read Rev 5:11-14, please notice that only in this one case involving Christ, does the NWT leave the word, proskyneō, as “worship”, since God on His throne is also mentioned. When reading these scriptures, do you accept it as worship given to both God and the Lamb, or do you ignore Christ and only acknowledge worship is given to God here? If so, you are practicing hypocrisy. Christ and the Father are our salvation, not an organization that suffers from the same corruption that exists in other organizations in the world. To believe so, is idolatry. Watchtower 1990 11/1 p. 26 Our Relative Subjection to the Superior Authorities "As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." That is a true statement that blows a hole in the validity of your organization. But, damage control kicked in the same month. A lie was generated, spoken from the other side of your leaders’ mouth: Kingdom Ministry 11/1990 p. 1 Directing Bible Students to Jehovah’s Organization "Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation.” The faithful anointed are ambassadors for Christ. 2 Cor 5:20 They are God’s “witnesses” in truth – the truth they receive from Christ by Holy Spirit. Matt 7:7; Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:9,10 They become “one” with Christ in his Body. 1 Cor 12:12; 10:17 Just as Paul spoke with Christ once he was in heaven, so do they. 2 Cor 12:8,9 Christ is there for all of us, to approach in prayer. It is through Christ, that we come to know the Father. You said, "We come to Christ through imitation of him, not by prayer to him." You would not apply that theory when it comes to God, would you. Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
  12. Jesus said, “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.. Matt 11:28 How can that be done if one is not allowed to pray to Christ? The early temple was a place of worship. If Jesus is the “chief cornerstone” of heavenly Zion/Holy City, Temple, he also deserves our relative worship. I did not see a (literal) temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. Rev 21:22,23 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. 8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. 9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. 10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign[b] on the earth.” 11 Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12 In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” 13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!” 14 The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped. Rev 5:6-14 They “fell down and worshiped” both the Father and Jesus Christ. Heb 1: 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” Men, who make up doctrine and change scripture by placing the word “obeisance” for any instances of worship given to Christ when on earth, have little regard for Jesus. The same Greek word for “worship” is translated as “worship”, only when speaking of God, and ironically, Satan. Yes, the Wt uses the account of Luke 4:8, where Jesus said to Satan, “Worship the Lord your God and serve him only”. Shouldn’t Satan have been doing that instead of demanding worship be given to himself? Open your eyes. Your leaders may speak of Jesus, but they preach "another Jesus" than that of the early apostles. 2 Cor 11:34 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. Matt 23:13
  13. Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers, 2 not to be easily upset in mind or troubled, either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter as if from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has come. BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began. w88 10/15 pp. 15-2 “as if from us” – The apostles were “ambassadors for Christ”. They were authentic “christs”/anointed under Christ as their Head 2 Cor 5:20 Jesus warned us that in the last days, false “christs”/messiahs would DECEIVE THE ELECT/anointed with “great signs and wonders” and a message that the “Day of the Lord has come”. Matt 24:24; Rev 13:11,13; 2 Thess 2:9 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. Have the elect (anointed saints) in the organization been deceived by Catholicism and the UN? Have those two entities unitedly proclaimed the “day of the Lord” as the Watchtower has? The Day of the Lord comes, when the “man of lawlessness” is revealed. He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits * in God’s sanctuary/temple publicizing that he himself is God. “sits” - to set, appoint, to confer a kingdom on one Who are exalted over the anointed priests? Who say they “represent” God’s priesthood? Who have been given by false christs, the authority TO JUDGE GOD’S SPECIAL POSSESSION AS UNFIT FOR ETERNAL LIFE? * God’s temple is not found in Christendom, nor at any nation in the world. Contrary to what Samuel Herd may say about 8 million JWs as God’s Temple, the anointed alone are God’s Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 That, you will find in earlier publications of the WT, even your IT Book. The man of lawlessness tramples God’s people down with blasphemy. Rev 13: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Rev 13:1,4-7 “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization” of elders has challenged God’s priesthood/Temple. Elders rule, while the anointed are silenced. They have no choice but to either kowtow to the elder body and save face, or leave disgraced as Christ was disgraced by his own people. Matt 5:11 All of you in the organization are in subjection to this Beast that “kills” all who rejects its lies. Rev 13:15 Rev 11:1-3 - Then I was given a measuring reed like a rod, with these words: “Go and measure God’s sanctuary and the altar, and count those who worship there. 2 But exclude the courtyard outside the sanctuary. Don’t measure it, because it is given to the Gentiles, and they will trample the holy city for 42 months. 3 I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days,[e] dressed in sackcloth. The “Holy City” is Zion, the Temple of God. The man of lawlessness is revealed by the “two witnesses” who also are “killed” by this Beast/organization. Rev 11:7 I don't expect you to believe me. Your eyes are solely fixed on the world of Satan as if there, God's Kingdom will be born. Job 14:4
  14. I have explained the assumed role of the elders over and over on this forum.. They are a counterfeit priesthood, the “man of lawlessness”; which I mentioned in my opening post. Is it too hard to acknowledge Jesus as our judge? "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son. And he gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.” John 5:22,27 And Jesus said, "For judgment I came into this world, so that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind." John 9:39 Every “slave” since Christ must be a good steward of God’s Word. They must support completely Christ’s truth. Each one of them…no matter if they are male or female. To do so as anointed ones, they must speak it, whether male or female. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 13:15 Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards that one be found faithful. 1 Cor 4:1,2 This does not say to be faithful to other “slaves” who preach their own doctrine. (Should I list the GB’s temporarily sealed and stamped doctrines that have changed regularly?) A slave of Christ's first and foremost commitment and loyalty is to Christ and his truth! He is their one and only head, not other slaves who divert from his word. To say there were no “faithful and discreet slaves”, or a slave of his or her time period, that was a faithful steward gathering spiritual provisions from all slaves of God’s House at the time… before the organization existed, has no scriptural basis. None. (Matt 25:14-20) You are listening to the doctrine of men. 1 Pet 2:1 What Christ did warn of, is a wicked slave, and that wicked one would arise during the last days and “beat” his fellow slaves because they refuse his false doctrine! That wicked one would expect full devotion to his teachings alone, whether they were in line with Christ’s words or not. If the GB supported Christ, they would admonish their fellow “slaves” to do the same. They would hear their brothers out and consider not the opinion of “Gentile” helper’s but those of “Israel” under the anointed Body of Christ. Instead, the GB spiritually “kill” any of “Israel” who turn to Christ. Rev 13:11,15 This is wickedness, and wickedness is sourced in Satan’s powerful spirit. Normally, a JW would reject an institution based on falsehoods in other aspects of life. So why would they accept failed and recorded falsehoods from an organization inspired by men, who make the bogus claim that it is God’s organization? “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thess 2:9-12 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was. 1 Tim 3:1-9 Just as the Egyptian sorcerers, Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, the GB resist Christ, teaching what they choose, and when. If it fails, they blame Christ. Jannes and Jambres were thought to contribute to the idea of the golden calf to “lead” the people away from YHVH and into idolatry. The majority of JWs will not worship God without the organization, as they believe it is the only way to salvation. 14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.” Rev 22:14,15
  15. I am presently on a road trip, camping in parts of the western states of the U.S. I guess it could be called a therapeutic getaway for my husband, who will make some serious medical decisions next month. Way out west, that could mean long stretches before finding a cell signal, but this campsite has internet and if my computer battery holds out, I may have a chance to get this posted. I happened to speak briefly to three JW women who had set up their cart and table in a national park. It was a frigid morning after a snowfall, the temperature inching from a bright and early 6 degrees above zero, toward 20 degrees in the sunshine. After a pleasant interchange, I mentioned 1 Cor 3:16,17 and that through my studies I have learned that the anointed were the “living stones” of the Temple of God. (1 Pet 2:5,9) I then cited 2 Thess 2:3,4, and asked if they had considered how the “man of lawlessness” in the last days, would “sit”/rule over the temple – over the anointed ones. One JW reached for her computer pad to do a bit of research. She admitted it would be through a composite entity, but couldn’t give me an identity. Yes, I did tell her that the man of lawlessness is the elder body, who has been given authority to judge God’s “special possession” as unworthy of receiving eternal life. (Rev 11:1,2; 13: 5-7,15) Immediately, I am told, “Jehovah is the ultimate judge”, despite the judgment of a spiritual “death” made by the elder body when one rejects the organization, or exposes its leaders’ lies. (Matt 10:17,18; John 16:2; Rev 13:15) I have noticed that it seems to be a common phrase among JWs that God is the judge, while they forget that Jesus has been given authority to judge. Elders, not anointed, have no authority to do so. (John 8:51; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 14:4) As we spoke a bit more, I was thinking how very depressing it is to see their devotion to the organization and their full blindness to the role of God’s priesthood. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4) (Mal 2:7) The organization’s false doctrines, have a common thread that can’t be dismissed if one cares to scrutinize them. They all weave together to minimize and suppress the identity and role of the anointed. When I asked the JWs who they believed should be the shepherds of the congregations, the elders or the anointed ones, the answer was most definitely, the elders. I reminded them of the time Jesus appeared to his disciples after his resurrection. He called to them from the shore when they were fishing on the Sea of Tiberias. He miraculously filled their nets with fish after catching none during the night. When they arrived on shore, he had prepared a breakfast of fish and bread. Three times Jesus told Simon Peter to “tend my sheep”, “feed my sheep”. (John 21:1-19; 1 Pet 5:2-4) With Christ as the chief cornerstone of God’s Temple, and the apostles and prophets as its foundation, the additional anointed “living stones” over the years, have been given the same assignment as Simon Peter and the others received that day, to feed Christ’s sheep. Eph 2:19-22 The JWs just shook their heads and silently scoffed. Revelation’s Beasts have successfully “trampled” any evidence of the important role of God’s priests, before the eyes of those who love the organization. (Dan 11:31,32,36; Matt 24:15,16) They believe the anointed will not act as God’s priests and kings until a future time…once sealed and joining the “144,000” in heaven. This is another false doctrine, according to God’s word. 2 Cor 1:22; Eph 1:13; Heb 12:22; Rev 5:9,10) As Dan 11:36 states, and with the help of a false prophet (Rev 13:11,12), the “man of lawlessness”/Beast from the Sea has done… “…exactly as he pleases, claiming to be greater than every god there is, even blaspheming the God of gods, and prospering…” I think all of us are aware of just how easy it is to be captivated by lies. We are also aware that believing in lies can result in one’s slavery to them. (Rom 6:16) When we are taken “captive” by lies, it facilitates oppression born from a belief of what we erroneously accept as truth. (Col 2:8; 2 Thess 2:9,10; Rev 13:10) Our heart becomes hardened to any possibility of an alternative understanding of God’s word. (Mark 8:17; Heb 4:7) The conversation quickly concluded, and I walked away from these three lovely women, who were vocally content and at peace with their belief, that the layout of headship grafted on paper depicting their earthly organization, is correct. (1 Thess 5:3) It begins with “Jehovah”, to Jesus, the elders, and the rest of its members. God’s priests remain anonymous; scattered among them, and at the same time “surrounded” and held fast by demonic expressions used against them. (Jer 23:2; 50:17; Rev 16:13,14; 20:7-9) Through the coming of “Elijah” sent by Christ (Matt 17:11), the words that Jesus read from Isa 61:1,2 apply again today: The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set free the oppressed, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor. 20 He then rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant, and sat down. And the eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today as you listen, this Scripture has been fulfilled.” Luke 4:18-21 Yes, it has been fulfilled, a second time for those hearts that long for freedom from oppression and lies. For consideration: “Who are the gods?” “Two Witnesses/”Elijah” and “Moses” “Elijah Turns Hearts” Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
  16. Yes, we are expected to offer prayers to God, but 1 Chron 23:13,14 has to do with sacrifices offered on behalf of the people, by the priests. The early priesthood is from the tribe of Levi. From that tribe, Aaron’s descendants were chosen by God to serve as priests in the temple… “The sons of Amram; Aaron and Moses: and Aaron was separated, that he should sanctify the most holy things, he and his sons for ever (“everlasting”), to burn incense before (“in the presence of”) the LORD, to minister unto him, and to bless in his name for ever.” 1 Chron 23:13,14 However, the Levites other than the priests, were also given specific tasks pertaining to the temple and support for the priesthood – 1 Chron 23:28-32 What happened when Korah a Levite, said to Moses and Aaron… “You take too much upon yourselves! All of the community is holy, every one of them, and Yahweh is in their midst, so why do you raise yourselves over the assembly of Yahweh?” When Moses heard this, he fell on his face. 5 And he said to Korah and to his entire company, saying, “Tomorrow morning Yahweh will make known who is his and who is holy, and he will bring him near to him, whomever he chooses he will bring near to him. 6 Do this: take for yourselves censers, Korah and all of your company;[f] 7 tomorrow put fire in them and place incense on them beforeYahweh; the man whom Yahweh chooses will be the holy one. You take too much upon yourselves, sons of Levi!” Numbers chapter 16 For their assumption that anyone could serve God in His temple as a priest, Korah and his men lost their lives. Therefore are they before (“in the presence of”) the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. Rev 7:15 It takes place in God's Temple. The scriptures explain this holy priesthood IS the Temple, that they are “living stones” of God’s Temple, “pillars” of this Temple, the dwelling of God’s Spirit…AND…the Bride of Christ that “comes down from heaven” to be among mankind. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:19-22; Rev 3:12; 21:2 I've never called them a "bunch of old men" - false messiahs, false prophets, yes. Matt 24:24; Rev 13:11 That's very true. In the last days, there is an organization (Beast from the Sea), "false prophet" (Beast from the Earth) and the "dragon" who deceive the "kings of the earth" (Jesus' "kings", Rev 1:5) with demonic expressions. Rev 13:1,2,11; 16:13,14; Matt 24:15 The GB have most conveniently misled the anointed about their duties as priests. They have convinced them that the elders must "represent them" as priests, fully ignoring the lesson of Korah.
  17. I think I have given you enough scriptures, to show me you reject God's word and accept men's doctrine based on...what?
  18. 1 Chron 23:13,14: “The sons of Amram; Aaron and Moses: and Aaron was separated, that he should sanctify the most holy things, he and his sons for ever (“everlasting”), to burn incense before (“in the presence of”) the LORD, to minister unto him, and to bless in his name for ever.” "So you shall appoint Aaron and his sons that they may keep their priesthood, but the layman who comes near shall be put to death." Num 3:10 “And you yourselves, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. But you are a chosen race,[f] a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s possession, so that you may proclaim the virtues of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light” 1 Pet 2:5,9 Rev 7:9, 13-15: After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before (“in the presence of”) the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before (“in the presence of”) the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. In the organization, the anointed priesthood has been expelled from their duties of offering “incense”, or sacrifices of praise to God, presently, and obviously through the spurious teaching of who comprise the "great multitude" that serve God "in the presence of" His throne in heaven. Heb 13:15; 1 Pet 2:5 Counterfeit priests have filled God’s Temple with abominable teachings and sacrificial offerings to an idol. Ezek 44:6-9; 13:8,10; Rev 13:1,4-7, 15, 17,18
  19. Jesus is not only called the Son of God, but the Son of Man. Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.” John 22:70 In heaven, he is referred to as the Son of Man: “Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle.” Rev 14:14 If the Son of Man is Jesus in his fleshly body when on earth, ( John 1:14) why isn’t he called the Son of God only, when in heaven? He is the first of the new creation, with both human and spiritual qualities. 1 Cor 15:49 God has other “sons” in the image of Christ. “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.” 1 John 3:1,2
  20. Isa 66:1,2: This is what the Lord says: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be? Has not my hand made all these things, and so they came into being?” declares the Lord. “These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word.” Ps 132:7-9,13,14: “Let us go to His dwelling place, let us worship at his footstool, saying, 8 ‘Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might. 9 May your priests be clothed with your righteousness; may your faithful people sing for joy.’” For the Lord has chosen Zion, he has desired it for His dwelling, saying, 14 “This is my resting place for ever and ever; here I will sit enthroned, for I have desired it. Ps 15 - Lord, who may dwell in your sacred tent? Who may live on your holy mountain? 2 The one whose walk is blameless, who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from their heart; 3 whose tongue utters no slander, who does no wrong to a neighbor, and casts no slur on others; 4 who despises a vile person but honors those who fear the Lord; who keeps an oath even when it hurts, and does not change their mind; 5 who lends money to the poor without interest; who does not accept a bribe against the innocent. Whoever does these things will never be shaken.. God’s dwelling/”earth” (inhabited home)/footstool/priesthood/144,000/Bride..is Zion. “The children of your oppressors will come bowing before you; all who despise you will bow down at your feet and will call you the City of the Lord, Zion of the Holy One of Israel. 15 “Although you have been forsaken and hated, with no one traveling through, I will make you the everlasting pride and the joy of all generations. “The glory of Lebanon will come to you, the juniper, the fir and the cypress together, to adorn my sanctuary; and I will glorify the place for my feet.” Isa 60:14,15,13 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.” Acts 17:24 “Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s sanctuary and that the Spirit of God lives in you? If anyone destroys God’s sanctuary, God will destroy him; for God’s sanctuary is holy, and that is what you are.” 1 Cor 3:16,17 "Then I looked, and there on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with Him were 144,000 who had His name and His Father’s name written on their foreheads." Rev 14:1
  21. "But you and your sons will carry out your priestly responsibilities for everything concerning the altar and for what is inside the curtain, and you will do that work. I am giving you the work of the priesthood as a gift,* but an unauthorized person who comes near the sanctuary will be put to death." Num 18:7 Pearl Doxsey, Who "renders sacred service, day and night" in God's Temple? 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
  22. “After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them.” Rev 7:9,10,13-15 The “great crowd” are the anointed remnant/priesthood that are found faithful after Armageddon. Only God’s designated priests were allowed to serve in God’s temple on earth. It is the same in heaven. They are God’s “dwelling”/ “living stones” of the Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17 A false christ/ false prophet is not sent by God, but by Satan to mislead the “elect”. Matt 24:24; Rev 13:11,12 Jesus sends those whom HE chooses. John 13:20 He gave us warning of the possible “wicked slave” who would spiritually “eat and drink with drunkards”. (elders, helpers “drunk” on the combined teachings of the GB and their own) Matt 24:48-51 A faithful slave would not condemn ("beat") his fellow slaves for questioning his faulty/changed teachings. He would not judge them as spiritually “dead” as the GB direct the elders to carry out, and have done, over and over for years. He would welcome all offers of spiritual provisions from his fellow slaves. Simply because the GB are lording it over their “brothers” in Christ, doesn’t mean there isn’t a “faithful slave” whom Jesus has chosen to care for his belongings. Matt 17:11; John 13:20; Rev 11:1-3 The difference between the GB and a faithful slave sent by Christ, is that one leads the listener to Christ – not to an organization, and not to themselves. All you see is what the WT offers you. As long as you stay put in that environment you will not know how those who have left the organization worship, or that they may have found an authentic “faithful slave” with truth to offer. Are JWs worshiping God whole-souled, or has their dedication to a “worldwide organization” led them away from true worship? Those who “worship” the Beast/organization that is guided by a false prophet (Rev 13:11) say, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to make war with him?” This is the same Beast that overcomes the anointed through blasphemy targeted against them. Rev 13:4-7 Can truth/light reside with falsehood/darkness? 2 Cor 6:14 Would Jesus, who is Truth, allow his servants to spread falsehoods worldwide, especially when he promised the Helper would tell them “all things”? John 14:2 You do realize that every piece of wrongful teaching from the GB reached all corners available at the time of its distribution? Millions of people read them, JWs and those not JWs. Doesn’t the fact that the organization exposed their list of falsehoods/”beliefs clarified" prove beyond a doubt that Jesus’ Spirit is not found in the hearts of your leaders? It truly is slander against the Son of God to believe he condones falsehoods. Telling truth does not equate to hate! Did Jesus hate the Pharisees when he told them truth? You speak of hate frequently; perhaps it is you who hate those who challenge your organization and leaders? The thousand year reign of Christ began in the first century. Ps 110:1,2; 1 Cor 15:25 The organization’s appearance on the worldly scene comes with it, the development and eventual presence of the “man of lawlessness”/Beast of Rev 13:1,2,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Matt 24:15,16. Rev 18:4-8 “when”…you are as confident of their destiny as they are, so much so that their address is "1 Kings Drive". What did Paul say about such individuals? "Oh, you are already filled! You have already become rich! You have begun to reign without us! If only that were really true, so that we could reign with you!" 1 Cor 4:8
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