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Nope we can’t blame their lack of inspiration by Holy Spirit on distance. What they do blame it on, is Jesus. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. w17 February p. 26 In light of this admittance, what is absolutely ironic is the emphasis on “pure language”. It is especially noteworthy that the language that God gives his servants is said to be pure. This is true, not because of grammatical construction, but because it gives evidence of moral and spiritual cleanness. There is no allowance in this language for lying, deceit, or a tricky tongue. Those who speak this language must always speak truth. w91 4/1 p. 24-25 The organization boasts that “pure language” is found in the organization, when at the same time its leaders fail in providing truth. Jesus did promise to teach his faithful servants “all things”, which would be “perfect spiritual food”. John 14:26; 1 John 2:27 Since the GB cannot receive it, neither do they receive the “pure language” from God...or anyone who learns from them.

My opening scriptures were Rev 5:9,10. If you will look again at the WT’s Greek Interlinear, it states that the kings/priests will reign ON the earth. Do you want to change that truth, Arauna? If you could only see that a “new creation” is both heavenly and human. They will serve God in heaven and as the early priests were commissioned to do – teach and serve the people under the direction of their High Priest, Jesus Christ.. Mal 2:7; Rev 1:5,6; 7:15 Can God’s priesthood teach the people if they remain in a spiritual state that the rest of God’s children do not have access to? Can they say these words and be heard if they are out of contact with God’s future children?... “And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And the one who hears, let him say, “Come!” And the one who is thirsty, let him come. The one who wants, let him take the water of life freely.” Rev 22:17 Can “New Jerusalem” prepared as a bride, come down from heaven if it is to remain in heaven? Rev 22:2 Remember, the “144,000” are the Temple, the Holy City. They bring God’s Spirit/direction/guidance to His children. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling of God is with humanity, and he will take up residence with them, and they will be his people and God himself will be with them. Rev 21:3 The dwelling of God is the Temple/House of God – 1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Cor 6:19; Eph 2:20-22 So, his ability to come back to earth has now passed. Is this what you are saying? Where are the scriptures that support this? I have provided scripture that show Jesus returning to the earth. And after he had said these things, while they were watching, he was taken up, and a cloud received him from their sight. 10 And as they were staring into the sky while he was departing, behold, two men in white clothing stood by them 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand there lookin] into the sky? This Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven like this will come back in the same way you saw him departing into heaven!” Acts 1:9-11 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “And let all the angels of God worship him.” Heb 1:6 I am pretty amazed that Gen 28:12-17 and John 1:51 do not help you see that Jesus will be on the earth in the Kingdom. I hope you actually read them. A symbolic stairway in Jacob's vision is set up between heaven and earth. The descendants of Jacob in Genesis, are “Israel”. His descendants, the “144,000” inherit the earth. Jesus referred to the stairway again in John, with his “angel”/messengers “ascending and descending” upon the Son of Man. An anointed, refined and found faithful can be sealed while on the earth. Yet even so, their obedience only to Christ must continue until he returns. 1 Cor 1:21,22; Eph 1:13; 4:30 Can you see you are creating a doctrine with no sound basis? How do you know this? You speak of unity among all in the organization, yet they are all individuals, both men and women. You have even in error, designated that the organization's members are the Body of Christ. But, when it comes the the true anointed Body of Christ you now say there will be no men or women, but clones as your GB portray them, once God's Kingdom arrives. You are applying two sets of standards, which is hypocrisy. Yes they do...in heaven. You can see the slaves however you like, but I detect you looking through the lens of the GB who are telling all JWs lies about the anointed ones. I see what scripture points out clearly, that the elders have usurped the role of God’s priesthood. Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:6 Revelation’s “Jezebel” feeds God’s servants/slaves lies, and expects gratitude given to an organization, an idol. Your very words speak their lies. The ancient Jezebel killed the prophets of God (1 Kings 18:13); today’s “Jezebel” spiritually “kills” any anointed as well as their companions who see truth and reveal “her” lies. Rev 13:11,14-17 But I have against you that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, the one who calls herself a prophetess,(Rev 13:11) and teaches and deceives my slaves to commit sexual immorality (spiritual harlotry) and to eat food sacrificed to idols. Rev 2:20 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear, and will produce great signs and wonders in order to deceive, if possible, even the elect

Which scriptures, Arauna? I’m open to discussing them with you. As the “new creation”, they are both human and spirit, as Jesus showed his disciples when he appeared to them after his resurrection. 1 Pet 1:23; 2 Cor 5:17; Mark 16:12; John 21:14; 1 Cor 15:3-8 "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters." Rom 8:29 "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!" 2 Cor 5:17 " And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man." 1 Cor 15:49 NKJV "And just as we have borne the image of the one who is made of earth, we will also bear the image of the heavenly." LEB “You, however, are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him.” Rom 8:9 “But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly” Heb 12:22 Jerusalem’s temple was made with stones (Matt 24:2), God’s Temple today in Christ, is made with “living stones”, who are also His priests. Individually and unitedly as Christ’s Bride, they are the dwelling place of God’s Spirit, just as the old earthly temple was blessed with God’s Spirit. But no longer is there any definitive example of a temple built in a definitive place. The anointed priesthood are His Temple and House of God. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 They are his spiritual “organization”. This is why the new creation is both. There are many scriptures in my post that show the Bride with Christ, coming down from heaven. Rev 21:1-3 He had an earthly body when he appeared to his disciples. He also ate with them. Should we limit God’s Hand to what He can accomplish with a “new creation”? Was it limited when He created Adam and Eve and life in general? Or, when Jesus appeared and disappeared when with his disciples? For those who are “conformed to the image of His Son” wouldn’t they have the ability to do the same? Oh Arauna, I am not the one saying I will be “co-ruler” with Christ before Christ makes the choice. That would be your GB. Matt 25:21 Besides, “co-ruler” isn’t a word found in the Bible. There is only one anointed Body of Christ. The scriptures are above in the post of what those members are. (1 Cor 12). Not all of the "virgins" are found to be wise. Many prefer to "buy" their oil from one other than Christ. Matt 25:8,9; Rev 13:Rev 3:18; Rev 13:11,12,15-17 At the patience of the Librarian, I’ve posted links for anyone who cares to, can visit. The “good news” is the restoration of “Jacob”/”Israel”. Isa 44:23; Mal 3:1-3; Matt 17:11 …”the inhabited earth” (Matt 24:14) refers to God’s holy people. John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9 They are God’s owned land – “Israel”. In the last days, they receive the message to “come out of her my people”. Jer 25:29,30; Matt 10:23; Rev 11:1-3; 18:4-8 They and those with them, are drinking in the lie that an earthly organization leads one to salvation. Rev 12:13-17; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:1,2;18:4-8 "The Symbolic Earth" - http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/06/symbolic-earth.html

And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kingsr over the earth.”Rev 5:9,10 - NWT As a JW, this sounded accurate to me, since it fit the supporting doctrine that the “144,000” will rule strictly from heaven – “over” the earth...not within its vicinity, but from the spiritual realm. What I have since learned about this scripture and Christ’s truth regarding where the anointed will be “ruling” from, has been an important turning point for me. Notice how the organization’s own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures breaks down vs. 10: “and you made them to the God of us kingdom and priests and they are reigning upon the earth” Here are a few other examples: “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.” Scripture4all.org “…they will reign upon the earth”. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/5-10.htm It is very rare to find a Bible translation using the phrase “over the earth” in this scripture. The organization’s latest pictorial depiction of the 144,000 kings/priests ruling in heaven was of a vast array of emerald green thrones where men appearing identical to one another and to Christ, gazed over the earth as Christ’s “co-rulers”. I wonder what the anointed JW women feel about a female’s apparent transition into a man, who are clones of each other. This teaching sounds ridiculous to me today. However, since the role of JW women is repeatedly slighted, should we expect any acknowledgement of the anointed being both male and female? I could be in error, but I haven’t seen any photos of women partaking in the magazines. There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28 To be one in Christ does not mean the faithful sealed anointed take on the same physical appearance as Christ. All of the members of a fleshly body are distinctly different in appearance; working separately yet collectively, with the unified goal to allow the body to work efficiently. It is the same in the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 12:15-20 All are given various gifts, and all are individuals with individual personalities. They have abilities reflecting the gift they receive. Paul described it this way: There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work. 1 Cor 12:4-6 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 1 Cor 12:19,20 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized byone Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. 1 Cor 12:12-14 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work. Eph 4:11-16 The 144,000 are the Bride of Christ under the New Covenant “woman”/promise. (2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:29-32; Gal 4:26) It is curious that the WT's leaders rarely go into detail about this. When I recall their latest illustration described above, I don’t believe the artist had the idea of “bride” in mind. I could only sense an aura of steely authority, without the needed compassion and love that Jesus exhibited and taught his disciples to nurture within themselves. (Isa 42:3; Matt 14:14; John 13:34,35; 1 John 4: 17; Heb 4:15) Just as a bride and groom are not identical to each other, neither is Christ’s Bride of many members; either to Christ, or to one another, as the illustration erroneously shows. (1 Cor 12:29,30; Eph 4:11-13) Marriage partners compliment and support each other in love. It is the same with the Body of Christ, being united in one Spirit that imparts love, faith and knowledge of Christ and the Father. The organization’s leaders are unable to perceive this spiritual unity, since they have rejected the Spirit of Christ, in exchange for the spirit of Satan. (John 15:4-7;1 Cor 6:15-17; 2 Cor 11:3; 2 Pet 1:10; Rev 2:4; 8:10;13:11) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:12-14 In order to “rule on the earth”, God’s priests must be on the earth. If we can shed the false belief that once the 144,000 are sealed in “heaven” they will remain there, we are then able to grasp how such “heavenly” angel/messenger/priests will be found ruling, teaching, and helping God’s future children on the earth. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 1:14; Rev 5:9,10) We can comprehend God’s “new creation” as having two “births”; one by fleshly parents through Adam and Eve, (Gen 2:7) and one by spiritual parents. (John 3:3,5; 1 Cor 15:50; John 15:45; 20:22; Gal 4:26) Once Jesus was resurrected, he appeared many times to his disciples in the flesh; and just as easily, disappeared into the spirit realm. His example set the precedence of what it means to be a “new creation”. (Mark 16:12; John 21:14; 1 Cor 15:3-8) By combining this event with Pearl Doxsey's help from her article, “Who are the gods?”, we can visualize the 144,000 “angels” present not only in the spirit realm, but on earth as well: The sons of God ("gods") inherit the promises given to Abraham. What promises are these? "I will make you very fruitful (John 15:8) I will make nations of you (Rev 5:9,10), and kings will come from you (Rev 20:4; 1:5; 3:21; 19:16,15; 2:26,27)". “Jacob had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. There above it stood the Lord, and he said: "I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying (Ps 37:29; Heb 2:5,16; Gal 3:29; Heb 11:8-10; 13:14; Rev 21:2; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20) (Gen.17:6). Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring (Rev 22:2). I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go (Matt 28:20), and I will bring you back to this land (Rev 21:7). I will not leave you (John 14:18) until I have done what I have promised you (John 16:22). Jacob was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place (Heb 12:22,23,28)! This is none other than the house of God (1 Cor 3:9,16; Isa 56:7; Eph 2:19,10); this is the gate of heaven (Rev 11:6; Matt 16:19; Rev 3:12; John 10:9; 2 Cor 5:20)." (Gen.28:12-15,17) "Jesus added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open (Luke 24:32; Rev 2:17; Matt 13:11; Rev 4:1; 1:1) (John 3:12; 1 Cor 2:12,13; Col 3:2), and the angels of God ascending and descending (Heb 12:22; Eph 2:6; Rev 3:21) "on* (Greek--*"in service to") the Son of Man.” (John 1:51) The "angels" (Lit. Greek, "messengers" – Isa 43:10,21; 1 Pet 2:9; Mal 2:7; Acts 1:8) referred to here, could not have served before the time of Christ (John 3:13) Jesus specifically said that they are in service on "the Son of Man" (1 Cor 4:1). The "Son of Man" is Jesus in the flesh (John 1:14). Therefore, these angels serve Christ, after his coming down from heaven. To be a messenger of Christ ("ambassador") who harbors God's spirit of life within... who has been made new (Rom 12:2; 8:11) as a part of God's new creation (2 Cor 5:17) by means of incorruptible seed, the Word of God (1 Pet 1:23; Luke 8:11)... …who has been reborn as a Son of the Most High (John 3:3,5; Rom 8:16,17,19,28-30)... who has been made an immovable pillar in the eternal heavenly Temple of God (Rev 3:12; Prov 9:1; Jer 1:18)... ...is a "god" (Ps 82:6; Rom 8:14; 1 Cor 8:5). I do hope readers here find this information to be a personal turning point as it was for me, in learning that both Christ and the 144,000 kings and priests/ Bride of Christ, will have access to heaven as well as on earth, and living among God’s future children in the Kingdom. “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.” Matt 5:14 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. Rev 21:1-3 “But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple” Rev 21:22 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever. Rev 22:3-5 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1 Cor 3:16 Pearl Doxsey: (type in her name and the title of the article in the search bar. The link should appear) “End of the New Covenant” “Those not anointed – what benefit now?” “The Holy City” And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” (Heb.1:6) "Jesus will again, be brought into the world. At that time, the totality of his angels/messengers, will worship him... and be in service to, the Son of Man." Pearl Doxsey

Gal 5:22,23

This is an excellent comment, Srecko. Has the organization’s leaders, with their consistent errors in doctrine and prophesy, ever had God’s Spirit? 2 Pet 1:21 - "knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." NKJV “for prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men borne along by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.” Mounce "But you must understand this at the outset, that no prophecy of scripture arose from an individual’s interpretation of the truth. No prophecy came because a man wanted it to: men of God spoke because they were inspired by the Holy Spirit." (Phillips) It is so clear; if JWs would only take the guiding scriptures to heart and not the “guiding” words of men who not only admit they are not inspired, but have proven it to be true. Holy Spirit at Work - the Token: http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/07/holy-spirit-at-work.html

No matter what identity you may go with at the moment Allen, you are blind not only to the truth of God's word, but also to many of the WT's teachings. You truly fit the identity of "rogue" JW. Just as you choose and mix many different avatars, believing you will deceive those here that you are "new", you pick and choose what you like from WT's teachings and mix with your own interpretations of it as well as truth in scripture. Accordingly, you condemn almost all JW "brothers and sisters" in this forum, along with exJWs. Your answers support confusion and deception. That is the only coincidence I see that you share with the Watchtower.

For he must reign until he puts all his enemies under his feet. 1 Cor 15:25 This is the declaration of the LORD to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool." 2 The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion. Rule over your surrounding enemies. Ps 110:1,2 Then Pilate went back into the headquarters, summoned Jesus, and said to him, "Are you the King of the Jews? ""My kingdom is not of this world," said Jesus. "If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I wouldn't be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here. "You are a king then? " Pilate asked. "You say that I'm a king," Jesus replied. "I was born for this, and I have come into the world for this: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice." John 18:33,36,37 Now when they drew near Jerusalem, and came to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2 saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Loose them and bring them to Me. 3 And if anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord has need of them,’ and immediately he will send them.” 4 [b]All this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: 5 “Tell the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your King is coming to you, Lowly, and sitting on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ” Matt 21:1-5 All of the above scriptures show action performed by a ruling king – a King of Truth. John 14:6 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, since God is making his appeal through us. We plead on Christ's behalf: "Be reconciled to God." 2 Cor 5:20 Can anyone be an ambassador for a king of a nation, if the King is not in power? He has been putting his enemies at his feet since the first century, when the harvest began. John 4:35

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Are you speaking to me or to the anointed in the organization who are most definitely not working in their given capacity as God’s priesthood that they should? They are proving to be very unpopular with the elder body. Rev 11:1,2;13:1,2,5-7 For some, it just comes naturally. https://www.facebook.com/NML.EMG/videos/samuel-herd-do-corpo-governante-das-testemunhas-de-jeová-mostra-que-sabe-dançar-/2515571221800669/ "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him." 1 Cor 1:27,28 "And who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled, 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. 17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong." 1 Pet 3:13-17 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Matt 5:11 Tom, just because anointed who have left the organization speak out against the ruling authority that disfellowshipped them for disagreeing with their false teachings, doesn't mean they are seeking 'first place'. They are doing what Jesus expects them to do; just as the apostles did. Tell the truth, expose the lies, and not fear men while doing it. Prov 14:5; Eph 5:11; 4:25; 2 Cor 10:4,5 Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?...as the people in the video have done. Isa 2:22

You seem to be indicating that I don’t think there are “true”, authentic anointed in the organization. Have I ever said that, or have I repeatedly drawn attention to their existence among JWs? Unless….you are referring only to the GB as “true” anointed and disregard all other anointed, which wouldn’t surprise me. I do believe the GB were anointed, but they have lost any Holy Spirit they had once received. THEY now direct their false priesthood to carry out “covert extremism” to shun those who will not accept their tainted version of “truth”. As my comment brought out, it is they who should be shunned. It is very sad that you joke about God’s word and the man who spoke them.

Not necessarily. As a "good" elder's wife, I didn't know it existed since I never looked into his briefcase; and as a "good" elder, he never told me it existed. "Covert" - hidden or secret, such as covert military operations. "Extremism" - the fact of someone having beliefs that most people think are unreasonable and unacceptable, such as religious extremism. Yes, I would call it, covert extremism. ----------------------- Keeping in mind that the organization has among its members an authentic priesthood appointed by God, (1 Pet 2:5,9) who are “represented”/replaced by men appointed by men, Pearl Doxsey, an anointed woman, posted the following just yesterday, and it fits well with this topic. To all readers here, please, don’t just read it and not look up the scriptures. God’s Word reveals what we face today in the organization. I work to expose "Jehovah's Witnesses", by exposing the false doctrine produced by their leaders. This I do through a comparison of their doctrine, to the very Bible they claim to be guided by. In this post, I will offer scriptures that shed light on the office of "elder", and how that office is defined by the WT, as a station by holy spirit, authorizing an "elder" to render judgment over others. Many JWs and exJWs have observed injustice in that arrangement. This is because the WT's arrangement, authority, and power of their "elders" is exposed as a lie, according to scripture and prophecy. The only ones sanctioned by Jesus as judges, were those chosen to fill the office of priest (John20:21-23). If God's chosen priests (being both men and women) were not trampled and stripped of power, replaced by Gentile "elders" who have no real divine authority (1Cor.3:17; Matt.24:15; 2Thess.2:4; Luke21:24; Rev.13:10,7; 11:2; Isa.28:7; Matt.24:49)....... .......then the judgments being rendered by those whom Jesus did give authority to judge, would be very different (John20:21-23; 1Cor.6:2) from those passed by "elders" today. There would be no tolerance of pedophiles, domestic abuse, or shunning of sheep. [Shunning was to be limited to those "called a brother" of Christ.... anointed, who fall into an alliance with the Devil.] 1 Corinthians 5:11; Rev.2:20; 17:6; Luke12:45 Yet this replacement of God's priests by the Gentile "man of lawlessness", was prophesied to happen. How? Scripture tells us, that the false prophet "breathes" into the image of the Beast (organization) so that it appears spirit-directed/(breath-infused), and authorized to condemn to death, any who refuse to worship that image (Rev.13:11,14-15; 19:20). Jesus mentioned the "disgusting thing standing in the holy place". It is in plain sight... but as Jesus said, "Let the reader use discernment/perception/understanding" (Matt.24:15; Mark13:14; Eze.36:8). Articles: “Jew or Gentile” "Trample" - How does it happen? 4womaninthewilderness blogspot

Is it Holy Spirit or the result of living by the basic Bible teachings at the level you describe? There are many who are not JWs that fit that category - either as individuals or part of an independent “Christian” congregation, that may not be under the authority of an organization or a ruling class of leaders. But, they appear to live by the basic Bible teachings and are seemingly “good” people. Does Holy Spirit fall like rain on the righteous and the unrighteous? Matt 5:45

Individuals will voluntarily join armed forces to fight sinister rulers who threaten their country and that country's alliances. If that volunteer loses his life in battle, it is viewed as sacrificing one’s life for their country. They are exonerated. The organization, where God’s “Israel” and companions reside is compared to a spiritual nation by the WT. If we look at the early nation of Israel, when did an enemy ruler overtake them, slaughter thousands or hold them captive? Only when they were sinning and rebelling against God. One must look at the history of JWs up to the point of Hitler. What was being taught by the organization’s leaders? How were the organization’s anointed leaders teaching and caring for their sheep? What false doctrines were considered “truth”? The same goes for today and any suffering JWs are experiencing. Heb 3:8-11 He is a God of Truth. Deut 32:4 This organization has not exalted God, but defiled His name through its idolatrous existence. 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:1,2,5-10 Yet, under affliction at the hands of evil rulers, including His own wayward rulers, He reads each repentant heart with loving justice. Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the fish’s belly. 2 And he said: “I cried out to the Lord because of my affliction, And He answered me. “Out of the belly of Sheol I cried, And You heard my voice. 3 For You cast me into the deep, Into the heart of the seas, And the floods surrounded me; All Your billows and Your waves passed over me. 4 Then I said, ‘I have been cast out of Your sight; Yet I will look again toward Your holy temple.’ 5 The waters surrounded me, even to my soul; The deep closed around me; Weeds were wrapped around my head. 6 I went down to the moorings of the mountains; The earth with its bars closed behind me forever; Yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O Lord, my God. 7 “When my soul fainted within me, I remembered the Lord; And my prayer went up to You, Into Your holy temple. 8 “Those who regard worthless idols Forsake their own Mercy. 9 But I will sacrifice to You With the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay what I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.” 10 So the Lord spoke to the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land. Jonah chapter 2

I agree that God is organized, which is clear in creation. He has also organized his anointed Body of “144,000” perfectly, by distributing gifts in various measure. All are to benefit from each other. (1 Cor chapter 12) And he himself gave some as apostles and some as prophets and some as evangelists and some as pastors and teachers 12 for the equipping of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13 until we all reach the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to a measure of the maturity of the fullness of Christ. Eph 4:11-13 In Matt 13:36-43 it says, “The Son of Man will send out his angels and they will gather out of his kingdom all the causes of sin and those who do lawless deeds” Matt 13:41 Jesus stated that his kingdom is “no part of this world”. John 18:36 His kingdom is comprised of the anointed – those part of his Body. He is the “Lord of lords and King of kings”. Rev 17:14 (Matt 20:21) And they were singing a new song, saying, “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slaughtered, and bought people for God by your blood from every tribe and language and people and nation, 10 and made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they will reign on the earth.” Rev 5:9,10 (1 Pet 2:5,9) Matt 13:37,38 – “So he answered and said, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, 38 and the field is the world. And the good seed—these are the sons of the kingdom, but the darnel are the sons of the evil one.” If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3:29 We know that not all of God’s anointed become faithful members of the Bride. They can fall from their heavenly position. 2 Pet 3:17; Rev 8:10,11 This harvest firstly concerns those belonging to Christ, who are part of his kingdom and are found either as good seed or weeds. I hope you can see that Matt 13:36-43 has nothing to do with the all the kingdoms on the earth and the people in them. (Luke 4:5-7) In Matt 13:38; It does say, “the field is the world” – but world can mean, “an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution” which describes the anointed arrangement of "kings" under their Head Jesus Christ. John 4:23,24 - Jesus said right before these scriptures: “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.” John 4:21 Christ’s Body replaced the temple in Jerusalem. There is no more literal, physical place of worship, since the Temple is now built with “living stones”. 1 Pet 2:5,9 They are given “spirit” and “truth”. 1 John 2:20,27; John 16:13 If they fail in their devotion to God and Christ, they lose what has been given them. Luke 8:18; 1 Cor 3:18 They will not be sealed into the tribes of “Israel”. Luke 13:24; Rev 3:11 Again in Rev 18:4, “my people”, refer to God’s holy people – His “special possession”. They and their companions with them are to leave the “organization” where the “darnel” are teaching His people, lies. Rev 18:4-8 (1 Pet 2:5,9,10)

Just as the WT knows how to work the global market by investing their money in hedge funds, they know how to manipulate a developing mind with persuasion techniques. I perceive the downplay of higher education as a safeguard from losing members. While the organization warns these young ones of Satan’s worldly traps when pursuing higher education, in reality it appears to me that it’s all about keeping JWs captive to the organization’s “empty philosophy”. Col 2:8 Knowing how the young mind develops sheds light on the org's use of persistent warnings not to pursue higher education. “Developmental Tasks and Attributes of Late Adolescence/Young Adulthood (Ages 18-24 years) http://www.amchp.org/programsandtopics/AdolescentHealth/projects/Documents/SAHRC AYADevelopment LateAdolescentYoungAdulthood.pdf This is a time of life when very little is normative. It is a period of frequent change and exploration that covers many aspects of their life: home, family, work, school, resources, and role. Develop and apply abstract thinking skills Adolescents experience significant changes in their capacity to think. In changing from concrete to abstract thought they are increasingly able to understand and grapple with abstract ideas, think about possibilities, think ahead, think about thinking, and “put themselves in another person’s shoes.” In general, this changes their ability to think about themselves, others and the world around them. This is a gradual process that spans adolescence and young adulthood. For example, early in the process youth are limited in their ability to hold more than one point of view – understanding something from one perspective but not another. · Capacity for abstract thought becomes established; can think abstractly and hypothetically; can discern the underlying principles and apply them to new situations; and can think about the future, considering many possibilities and logical outcomes of possible events. · Able to hold and manipulate clusters of abstract ideas and create systems for organizing abstract thoughts. · Greater ability to consider different points of view at the same time can result in increased empathy and concern for others, and new interest in societal issues for many. It also allows youth to better value the diversity of people (and their perspectives) and appreciate that there may be many right answers to a problem. Adopt A Personal Value System Adolescents develop a more complex understanding of moral behavior and underlying principles of justice. They question and assess beliefs from childhood and restructure these beliefs into a personal ideology (e.g. more personally meaningful values, religious views, and belief systems to guide decisions and behavior). · Decisions and values are less influenced by peers. · Able to see multiple viewpoints, value the diversity of people and perspectives and appreciate that there can be many right answers to a problem. · Identify values and viewpoints that work for oneself while respecting viewpoints/values of others I would imagine there is a high risk of young JWs entering a college or university after high school, with the same age group, and going through the same mental development stages ...leaving the Watchtower altogether.

These two conflict. The first is the mountain spoken of in Isaiah 2:2,3. The second is a "mountainlike organization" that is built by men. Which do you believe God sanctions?

CORRECTION: The article is correctly and completely titled, The Anointing Teaches Truth--How? / The "Refining Pot" / Who should partake, and when? / "Tribulation" 4womaninthewilderness blogspot

"In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. 3 Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem." Isa 2:2,3 The Temple of God is not the organization, is it. Thus, in the last days, people will not be streaming to the Watchtower. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10; 2 Cor 11:2; Rev 21:1-3,9-13

@Arauna - “So, aside from all the human imperfections we have to deal with - just like David, moses, Elijah and the nation of Israel....... God used them as a nation despite their infedility, immorality, idolatry and maybe even child sexual abuse...... unfortunately all forms of irregularities is part of life until jehovah removes the wicked forever.” When God’s nation sinned, He abandoned them to the consequences of their sins. He didn’t tolerate idolatry, immorality, greed, victimization, etc., The number of evil kings far surpassed the number of good kings among Judah and Israel. How many good “kings” have there been in the WT? This forum has brought out the ugliness of every head leader since Russel. (Lam 2:14; Jer 14:14; Isa 56:10; Rev 17:9,10) Today’s “Israel” who are to be spiritually “organized” as a body under their Head, Jesus Christ, has now succumbed to men’s “unique” idea (a1940’s revelation) of an earthly organization as the only path to salvation. After 2,000 years, it appears God’s holy people believe Christ’s power to individually lead one to salvation through God’s approved way of worship, is now not possible. (1 Cor 12:27; 2 Cor 5:20; 1 Cor 4:1; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Mal 2:7; John 7:18,38; Rev 21:6; 22:17) A sin-laden brainstorm of men leads millions on a twisted path, which JWs view as the road to everlasting life. “Lord,” Thomas said, “we don’t know where You’re going. How can we know the way?”6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:5,6 As I recall the cry the organization makes to inactive ones: “Return to Jehovah!”, myself and many others are able to read between the lines, and detect the idol that the inactive, disfellowshipped and shunned ones are to return to - “Jehovah’s organization”. Can God be placed in the same context to anything men build? “Who will you compare me or make me equal to? Who will you measure me with, so that we should be like each other? Isa 46:5 In light of this idolatry, the organization’s leaders carefully use due diligence to maintain their false haven of “peace and security”, since its many sins over the years are perpetually uncovered, and people are taking notice. (Luke 8:17) It is one of several reasons why the “mountainlike organization” will not survive. (Ps 127:1; 1 John 2:17; Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8) I was thinking of Arauna’s avatar when formulating this comment. It reminds me of the situation David faced when he stubbornly counted all Israel – a practice the leaders of the WT repetitiously accomplish year after year. (1 Chron 21:1) I have noticed that the organization readily compares itself to historical Israel, usually applied to the time Moses led Israel; yet, the account in 1 Chron chapter 21 is treated with an apparent flippant attitude. Although it is taught that God similarly leads His people today by comparing the GB’s lead to that of Moses, God’s decrees seem to apply only when advantageous for the life and breath of the organization. They are heeded when convenient, to keep the members “moving ahead” with the organization. (Exod 32:1,4; Judges 10:13,14) Taking a census seems like such an innocent thing to do, a practicality necessary as all of today’s organizations in the world deem it to be. (Ezek 20:32-38) (Luke 4:5-7) “Satan stood up against Israel and incited David to count the people of Israel. So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, “Go and count Israel from Beer-sheba to Dan and bring a report to me so I can know their number.” 1 Chron 21:1,2 Each time God’s anger is said to “burn against Israel”, as is stated in 2 Sam 24:1 regarding this event, it was because of rebellion and idolatry. He rejected them by removing His protective spirit and allowed the adversary to step in. (Psalm 78) In Exod 30:11-16, God gave specific directions about taking a census which in this case, David took no notice of. Would JWs think of the routine census taken worldwide as evil? Well, perhaps they should, since the source of persuasion in David’s case, was Satan. Satan exhibits pride and greed. One of these Satanic attributes may have spurred David’s decision to count the number of Israelites. What is the reason today’s leaders of “Israel” do so? To fuel pride in ‘Jehovah’s growing organization’? To project graphs and statistics of future incoming donations and what they could possibly achieve with it? (Phil 3:19) But Joab said, “May YHVH add to the people a hundred times what they are! Are they not, O my lord the king, all of them the king’s servants? Why does my lord seek this? Why would he bring guilt to Israel?” 1 Chron 21:3 David was considered as one of the few good kings to rule God’s people, shepherding Israel “with integrity of heart” (Ps 78:72),but he still suffered the consequences of his failings, and so did all of Israel. (This chart may be of interest: https://adventbirmingham.org/wp-content/uploads/Chart-of-the-Kings-of-Israel-and-Judah.pdf) “Yet the king’s order prevailed over Joab. So Joab left and traveled throughout Israel and then returned to Jerusalem. 5 Joab gave the total troop registration to David. In all Israel there were 1,100,000 swordsmen and in Judah itself 470,000 swordsmen. 6 But he did not include Levi and Benjamin in the count because the king’s command was detestable to him. 7 This command was also evil in God’s sight, so He afflicted Israel.” 1 Chron 21:4-7 When David’s conscience came alive, he admitted his foolishness. (1 Chron 21:8) Still, he was given three choices to atone for his sin - “This is what the Lord says: ‘Take your choice: 12 three years of famine, or three months of devastation by your foes with the sword of your enemy overtaking you, or three days of the sword of the Lord—a plague on the land, the angel of the Lord bringing destruction to the whole territory of Israel.’ Now decide what answer I should take back to the One who sent me.” Vs 11,12 His decision not to fall into the hands of men, resulted in 70,000 Israelites killed by a plague. If the Bible examples are for our direction, why hasn’t the organization heeded this one - a plague of destruction far surpassing that of Korah’s rebellion of 14,000 (Num 16:49) and the plague of Baal-Peor of 24,000 (Num 25:9; 1 Cor 10:8)? (1 Cor 10:6) God relented at the last moment and saved the entirety of Jerusalem from destruction by the Destroyer. All of this occurred not only because of a brazen act committed before God, but the apparent sinful practices of Israel which led to this destructive plague. (2 Sam 24:1) Yet, David focused on his own sin: When David looked up and saw the angel of the Lord standing between earth and heaven, with his drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem, David and the elders, clothed in sackcloth, fell down with their faces to the ground. 17 David said to God, “Wasn’t I the one who gave the order to count the people? I am the one who has sinned and acted very wickedly. But these sheep, what have they done? My Lord God, please let Your hand be against me and against my father’s family, but don’t let the plague be against Your people.” 1 Chron 21:16,17 I really can’t imagine any JW leader, past or present, putting himself ahead of the sheep, by placing his neck on the chopping block for his wrongful actions. (Rom 5:6-8) But David saw the shocking literal effects of his sin. He witnessed the sword held in the angel’s hand, prepared to add victims to an already horrendous slaughter. As JWs suffer among the nations of the world (which every JW should meditate on why this is so) they are told to keep their faith strong and continue in their loyalty to “Jehovah’s organization”; the work of man’s hands. (Lev 26:1; Exod 20:23; Jonah 2:8; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4; 9:20) It doesn’t appear that there is enough suffering in the organization worldwide, for its leaders to acknowledge their own guilt, of leading “Israel” and those with them, into sin, continual false teachings, and idolatry. The plague was detained by David’s obedience to God’s direction – ‘Go up and build an altar to the Lord on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.’ It was on that threshing floor on the mountain of Moriah, that Solomon built the temple for God. 2 Chron 3:1 Araunah, or Ornan used in 1 Chron 21:15, referred to himself as a king in 2 Sam 24:23 Both names have several meanings: Ornan -- " strong, that rejoices, light was perpetuated: their fir trees" Araunah - “ark, song, joyful cry, a large tree, Yah is Firm” 22 Araunah said to David, “My lord the king may take whatever he want and offer it. Here are the oxen for a burnt offering and the threshing sledges and ox yokes for the wood. 23 Your Majesty, Araunah gives everything here to the king.” Then he said to the king, “May the Lord your God accept you.” 2 Sam 24:22-23 24 The king answered Araunah, “No, I insist on buying it from you for a price, for I will not offer to the Lord my God burnt offerings that cost me nothing.” David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for twenty ounce of silver. 25 He built an altar to the Lord there and offered burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. Then the Lord was receptive to prayer for the land, and the plague on Israel ended. At the coming of Jesus, John the Baptist compared God’s people to wheat and chaff on a threshing floor: 17 His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” Luke 3:17 Through the sacrifice of his life, Jesus willingly “bought” a people – a “land” of wheat to be threshed as faithful “living stones” of the Temple of God. (1 Pet 2:5,9) And who also, in the footsteps of Christ, sacrifice their lives to do God’s will. (Luke 8:15; Matt 13:38; Mark 4:20;1 Cor 3:9) (Rom 12:1; 1 Pet 2:5) As the tree of light and life, he has refined a people of strong “trees” on a spiritual “threshing floor” since the first century, to serve with him in God’s Kingdom. (Gen 2:9; John 6:57;8:12; Rev 2:7; 22:14; Matt 12:33; Ezek 47:12; Rev 22:2) Without this atonement, none of God’s people would have been saved from total destruction. (Luke 21:5,6; Matt 23:38,39;; Acts 3:22,23; John 2:18-21; Acts 3:25; Rom 9:6,7) Rev 5:9,10 - 9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. 10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” 1 Pet 2:5,9,10 - you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house (“a temple of the Spirit”) to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ, But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.” This new Temple is reaching completion, as the remaining anointed are being “sifted as wheat” on that symbolic, spiritual “threshing floor”. Today, the Great Tribulation is the time of threshing the remnant of God’s people “Israel”. (Luke 22:31; Rev 12:1-4,15-17; 16:13,14) Entering the organization does not lead to a salvaged condition of the heart, as I believe many JWs think so. Its existence is for one reason only, to incite God’s people to transgress His decrees, primarily by committing idolatry. Never did Moses teach that an organization was the source of salvation. I, I am YHVH, and there is no other Savior but Me. I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. Isa 43:11,12a God’s “Israel” today blindly permit men to lead them in this spiritual adultery, forgetting who “bought” them with his atoning sacrifice. They allow a “foreign god” and “thief” (John 10:10) to persuade their heart in exchanging the truth about salvation, for a lie. (Ezek 32:8,4; Rom 1:20-22,25; 2 Thess 2:9; Rev 13:11,14,15,8) You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. 1 Cor 7:23 “ Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Cor 6:19-20 @Arauna also commented - “I wait for ideal conditions when Jesus has restored the original purpose of God and given rulership back to Jehovah.” Restoration happens now, amidst a plague of “locust/scorpions” (2 Thess 2:9,10; Joel 2:1-5; Rev 9:3,4,7) and famine, resulting from a wicked house steward restricting spiritual provisions to be received from all servants of the House. (2 Chron 15:3; Amos 8:11; Rev 6:5,6,8; 18; 13:17; Isa 55:2) (Luke 12:42-46) Not only are God’s holy people committing idolatry, they are valuing the word of men over God’s decrees concerning His Temple, of which they as “living stones” under Christ, have submitted to the rule and judgment of a “Gentile” counterfeit priesthood, as dictated by false “christs”. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:5-7,11,12; Matt 24:24) They are scattered among all JWs and readily accept their anonymous identity. (Jer 23:2; Lam 4:1,2) Because of all of this, the appearance of an “Elijah”, a role that also John the Baptist fulfilled, is again seen in the “two witnesses” preaching in “sackcloth”. (Rev 11:3) 10 And the disciples asked him, saying, “Then why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 And he answered and said, “Elijah indeed is coming, and will restore all things.” Matt 17:10 This servant of Christ reveals the sins of God’s people and the need to escape the coming destruction, at the hands of the Destroyer. (Rev 11:3,4) (John 10:10) John preached to the nation of Israel, as do the “two witnesses” of Revelation – to spiritual “Israel”, and those with them. (Matt 10:23; Rev 11:3; 18:4-8) The "two witnesses" are “killed” for their witness to Christ’s truth concerning the “abominations standing in God’s “holy place” (Dan 11:31,32,36; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:4; Eccl 10:5-7) “When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.” Rev 11:7 “For you will be excommunicated from the synagogues, and indeed the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing God a service.” John 16:2 “It was granted to him (by a false prophet/Beast, Rev 13:11) to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. Rev 13:7 “He (that false prophet) was granted power to give breath (direct spirit/”spirit-directed”) to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.” Rev 13:15 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.” Matt 9:24 “They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” Luke 21:24 “Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. ]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.” Rev 11:1,2 JWs are taught that the two Beasts of Revelation are found in the world of “Christendom” and politics. Not so. “Babylon” is the spiritual condition where God’s wayward people exist now, in a haven of confused teachings, resulting in spiritual famine, and idolatry to an organization. (Isa 28:7-15) The anointed Temple of God is “trampled” by this Beast, the “man of lawlessness”/elder body/counterfeit priesthood that rules over them. (Dan 7:23 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3,4;11:1-3) These two Beasts, a false prophet and an organization, have been successful in applying pressure and persecution through the use of lying accusations against them, enough to extinguish any light of truth they may hold in their hearts. (Matt 5:14-16; Rev 13:5-7) Why do God’s anointed priests tolerate men who dictate how they are to serve God? It is because these men offer them the captivating false promise that eternal life is achieved through the organization, a promise God and His Son have never made. (Isa 44:20; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) The Lord, the holy God of Israel, the one who shapes the future, says: “You have no right to question me about my children or to tell me what I ought to do! 12 I am the one who made the earth and created human beings to live there. By my power I stretched out the heavens; I control the sun, the moon, and the stars. 13 I myself have stirred Cyrus to action to fulfill my purpose and put things right. I will straighten out every road that he travels. He will rebuild my city, Jerusalem, and set my captive people free. No one has hired him or bribed him to do this.” The Lord Almighty has spoken. Isa 45:11-13 Pearl Doxsey I have learned from my own experience with Holy Spirit, that Satan has demanded to test all those elected by God (Luke 22:31; 1 Pet 4:12,13). As was the case with Job, God allows this (Job 1:8,9,12,22), that we might prove worthy of the calling (Luke 16:10; Matt 25:14,19,23,29,30;8:12) in the face of Satan's accusations (Job 1:11; 2:5; Zech 3:1; Rev 12:10). I was clearly shown in vision, that our time in the WT is a test.... a great tribulation. The Greek word there, refers to the beating, threshing, crushing, and sifting of wheat by constraint, restraint, and opposition. This time is also referred to as a period of "labor pains", or "pangs of distress". 2347 thlípsis – properly, pressure (what constricts or rubs together), used of a narrow place that "hems someone in"; tribulation, especially internal pressure that causes someone to feel confined (restricted, "without options") and carries the challenge of coping with the internal pressure of a tribulation, especially when feeling there is "no way of escape" ("hemmed in"). (Rev 13:10; Ezek 22:29,28; Isa 5:7; Rev 14:19) [By contrast, 4730 (stenoxōría) focuses on the external pressure exerted by external circumstances.] Therefore, we are not without explanation as to why we were drawn into the WT. Satan has baited our test with the only thing that draws the chosen.....Bible Truth (Ps 119:103,72;19:9,10). The best way to get someone to swallow 1/3 poison, is to put it inside something attractive (Rev 8:10,11; Jer 23:15). The decades we spent inside the abyss of the WT was not without purpose (Isa 59:10,19-21; Ezek 14:21-23; Rev 6:8; Prov 17:3). When our loyalty (exclusive devotion) to the God of Truth is finally fully tested… …we "wake up" and realize something is wrong, and we must act. Despite the anticipated losses, those of faithful heart loyally cling to the God of Truth. Like Christ their exemplar, truth is more precious than our own lives (Mark 8:35). Like Christ, truth is more precious than conformity to those who rule over God's Chosen Nation under test (Matt 23:13). (Luke 19:41-46; Rev 13:17,7) Only those who make it all the way through the gamut/refining pot/crucible, are sealed as sons/heirs of God's Kingdom (Acts 14:22; Luke 13:23,24;Matt 7:14; 24:13) From Pearl Doxsey, "The Anointed Teaches Truth--How? “Threshing is the process of loosening the edible part of grain (or other crop) from the chaff to which it is attached. It is the step in grain preparation after reaping. Threshing may be done by beating the grain using a flail on a threshing floor. Another traditional method of threshing is to make donkeys or oxen (beasts) walk in circles on the grain on a hard surface.” Wikipedia Matt 24:48-51 – “ But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Revelation's Beasts are experts at circular reasoning, shaping scripture to fit their doctrines and calling it "truth". Babylon from long ago was destroyed because of idolatry, and foreigners who “entered the holy places of the Lord’s temple”. Jer 51:51-53 Today’s temple “living stones” under the covenant /promise of “Babylon” have apathetically allowed “Gentiles” to walk all over them, which has desecrated God’s Temple in Christ. (Ezek 44:6-9; Isa 51:23; 1 Pet 2:5; 1 Cor 3:16,17) As Pearl brought out, they have fully conformed to the rule of men. Gal 1:10 Rev 18:4-8 tells God's "saints" and companions to leave this confusion, ("babal") - to leave "Babylon" (the gate of gods). Many have obeyed this call, desiring to follow the word of God over the word of man. Matt 13:24-30 The cry to “come out of her my people” happened then…and is happening now. Jer 51:45,46; Rev 18:4-8 Ephraim herds the wind and is pursuing the east wind all day long; he multiplies deception and violence and he makes a treaty with Assyria, and oil is brought to Egypt. Hos 12:1 A merchant loves to extort with dishonest scales in his hands. 8 But Ephraim thinks, “How rich I have become; I made it all myself. In all my earnings, no one can find any iniquity in me that I can be punished for!” 7,8 Ephraim has caused bitter provocation, and his Lord will hold him responsible for his crimes and pay back to him his insults. Hos 12:14 When Ephraim spoke, there was trembling; he was exalted in Israel. But he incurred guilt through Baal and died. Hos 13:1 2 Now they continue to sin and make themselves a cast image, idols skillfully made from their silver, all of them the work of craftsmen. People say about them, “Let the men who sacrifice kiss the calves.” 3 Therefore, they will be like the morning mist, like the early dew that vanishes, like chaff blown from a threshing floor, or like smoke from a window. Hos 13:1-3 Israel, return to the Lord your God, for you have stumbled in your iniquity. 2 Take words of repentance with you and return to the Lord. Say to him: “Forgive all our iniquity and accept what is good, so that we may repay you with praise from our lips. 3 Assyria will not save us, we will not ride on horses, and we will no longer proclaim, ‘Our gods!’ to the work of our hands. For the fatherless receives compassion in you.” 4 I will heal their apostasy; I will freely love them, for my anger will have turned from him. 5 I will be like the dew to Israel; he will blossom like the lily and take root like the cedars of Lebanon. 6 His new branches will spread, and his splendor will be like the olive tree, his fragrance, like the forest of Lebanon. 7 The people will return and live beneath his shade. They will grow grain and blossom like the vine. His renown will be like the wine of Lebanon. 8 Ephraim, why should I have anything more to do with idols? It is I who answer and watch over him. I am like a flourishing pine tree; your fruit comes from me. 9 Let whoever is wise understand these things, and whoever is insightful recognize them. For the ways of the Lord are right, and the righteous walk in them, but the rebellious stumble in them. Hos 14:1-9

Rev 16:13,14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew ,Armageddon. I hope you are able to break down these scriptures to understand their identities. “kings of the earth” - Jesus tells us who they are and who must be alert to his coming: Rev 1:4-6 - John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. The “kings of the earth” are the anointed priests/kings. All the “kings”, rulers and authorities in the world do not belong to Christ, those who are part of his Body. 1 Cor chapter 12 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.” Rev 5:9,10 1 Pet 2:5,9 – “Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light” In Revelation 16, Christ’s “kings of the earth” are “gathered” with those from the “whole world”, which is certainly true in the organization. The “demonic expressions” that come from the dragon (Satan), the beast (Rev 13:1) and the false prophet (Rev 13:11) “go out to”…the anointed “kings of the earth” and those with them from the world. The beast overcomes the anointed “kings” with blasphemies, making “war” against them, by using “demonic expressions”. Rev 13:6,7 - Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. The false prophet is another beast…“from the earth’ (Rev 13:11) meaning it/they are also kings of the earth, who once belonged to Christ. (1 Tim 4:1) And, false prophets are spiritual "harlots". (Rev 17:1,2) Just as Satan is depicted as a dragon beast; so too are any who adopt him as their “father” – the father of the lie. (Matt 12:34; 24:24) This false prophet has two (meaning “truth”, John 8:17) horns (horns represent kings) like a lamb, (John 1:29) signifying that it is none other than a false messiah/false christ, who purports to speak truth (Dan 11:27; Matt 24:24) WT refers to the Beast of Rev 13:1 as an organization, which is very true. The false prophet directs the beast/organization to slander the “kings of the earth”. Rev 13:11,12 It also “gives breath” to this “organization”/beast, creating a “spirit-directed” image. Rev 13:15 Do we have evidence that the anointed “kings of the earth” have been overcome/conquered with slander in the Watchtower organization? “ Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! W02 8/1 p.14 Do you notice that no scriptural backing was given for this decision? Only that the decision must not be challenged? Can you think of a time when God was ever okay with “foreigners/”Gentiles”, anyone other than His chosen priesthood to serve as priests? (the anointed are spiritual “Israel” Rom 2:28,29; Gal 3:29) The article where the WT quote is from, is one prime example. (Num chapter 16). Korah challenged God’s appointed priesthood and was killed. I am not surprised at the boldness the WT showed in linking two challenges against God’s appointed priesthood, past and present, in one article. It shows the GB’s ability to push their agenda, despite scriptural truth. It shows that JWs prefer to listen to men and not the word of God. 2 Chron 13:9 - "Have you not driven out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron and the Levites, and made for yourselves priests like the peoples of [other] lands? Whoever comes to consecrate himself with a young bull and seven rams, even he may become a priest of [what are] no gods.” Ezek 44:6-9 - “Now say to the rebellious, to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “O house of Israel, let Us have no more of all your abominations. 7 When you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in My sanctuary to defile it—My house—and when you offered My food, the fat and the blood, then they broke My covenant because of all your abominations. 8 And you have not kept charge of My holy things, but you have set others to keep charge of My sanctuary for you.” 9 Thus says the Lord God: “No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter My sanctuary, including any foreigner who is among the children of Israel. The beast of Rev 16:13 “blasphemes” God’s sanctuary. The anointed priesthood ARE that sanctuary/Temple of God. 1 Cor 3:16,17 – “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” Eph 2:19-22 - "Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." Since the anointed are “living stones” of God’s Temple, (1 Pet 2:5,9) and “Gentiles” have usurped their position as God’s priests, the elders are the “man of lawlessness” treading down God’s Temple - standing where they "do not belong". Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2 Rev 13:18 - Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. Satan will produce plenty of visible signs to distract JWs and Christ’s “kings of the earth" from the true “battle” at hand. It is exactly what to expect from the Deceiver, and arch-enemy of Christ. Gen 3:15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.” And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. Rev 16:15,16 Who Are the Kings of the Earth? Pearl Doxsey

There are abundant scriptures where God is referred to as "Father", but do you know of any scripture where God is referred to as Israel's "mother"? Jesus never made reference to a "mother" organization.

Well, check this out. Here is one version of “wifelike organization” Contrary to the advice of the organization of Jehovah’s witnesses, the appointed servants in the Christian congregation and even their parents, some youngsters will at an early age get romantically involved with one of the opposite sex. Further, they fail to heed the counsel of Pr 1 verse 8 of the same chapter which says, “Listen, my son, to the discipline of your father, and do not forsake the law of your mother.” They do not listen to their parents and they do not listen to their heavenly Father, Jehovah, and their “mother,” Jehovah’s wifelike organization. w71 9/1 p. 526-527 This alludes to an earthly organization as Jehovah’s wifelike organization. Here is another: In what way did Jesus come forth from God’s “woman”? 7 God sent forth his Son, his first creation, from His wifelike organization of spirit creatures in heaven to be the promised “seed.” w09 12/15 pp. 20-24 This appears to be saying that an organization of angels conferred together with God to bring forth a “seed” – Jesus Christ. Which is really impossible. “The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him Prov 8:22,30 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Col 1:15-17

Look at Acts 17 again. I think you'll see that it is speaking not of Christ, but of God. "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. " God does not need a "wife-like organization" that the WT refers to as "heavenly Jerusalem". God doesn't need ANYTHING, which I think you'll agree. "Jerusalem above" is a "mother"/covenant/promise of life. but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written: “Rejoice, O barren, You who do not bear! Break forth and shout, You who are not in labor! For the desolate has many more children Than she who has a husband.” 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. Gal 4:27,28 The New Covenant promise is fulfilled once the "144,000"/Bride of Christ is sealed in the heavens. Rom 8:24,25; Rev 12:1,2,5; 2:26,27 Just as the old covenant brought forth a "seed", so too does the New Covenant. Gal 3:17,14,29; Eph 1:4,5,7-12; Rev 7:4; 14:1 These scripture tells us that "Jerusalem above" or "New Jerusalem" is the sealed Bride in Christ: Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” Rom 21:1-4

Considering I am in ninth place for the amount of comments on this thread, perhaps I am not the only one who has strayed off topic. Again, "Jerusalem above" is a promise of life. The scriptures I gave, verify it as symbolic. It is not heavenly Jerusalem. Does God need a wife to become complete? nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all [people] life and breath and all things; Acts 17:25 You are saying that Christ was brought forth from of a "heavenly organization" Is that right? Col 1:15-18