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He asked, As Srecko stated, there is no earthly organization, but that God had a people, a nation. Since Christ, God's people, the "firstfruits" are "organized" within the Body of Christ. James 1:18 I gave evidence according to the Bible, who that nation is comprised of. Don't tell me that you believe Zion is the Watchtower, where lawsuits are coming out of its ears, records of pedophiles are hidden within it, and "Beliefs Clarified" is posted on the information board. I know you must be smarter than that. 2 In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. Isa 2:1,2 The Temple is not the organization and the "law" is not the Shepherd the Flock of God book. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Heb 8:10; Rev 5:9,10; 14:1; Rev 21:22 As for the "Great 8", (which is really clever), the organization will make sure they are removed. Rev 17:12,15-18

“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen,so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he.Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. Isa 43:10 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed— I, and not some foreign god among you. You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “that I am God. Isa 43:12 "Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” "you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." 1 Pet 2:5,9 The nation of priests since Christ, are tested, refined, and proven to serve God and Christ, to bring "healing to the nations" in the Kingdom of God. Rev 21:2 No other "rock", or "foreign god" will prove to replace this spiritual people, nation. Not even the "mountainlike organization" that you fully put your trust in. It is the Temple of God, Mount Zion, soon to reach its completion. "For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God." Rom 8:19-21 “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God." Rev 21:2,3 The "dwelling place" of God is within the hearts of the anointed priesthood. 1 Cor 3:16,17 They are the "Bride" of Christ. "The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life." So, when your leaders say, "come to Jehovah's organization for salvation", they are telling you a lie.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own authority. My people love it like this. But what will you do at the end of it? Jer 5:31 As far as I know, there are two types of apostates, those who reject doctrine of men, such as “taught by Jehovah’s Witnesses”, as the "Shepherd the Flock of God" book states, and as defined in the Bible - those who reject God’s Word - His commandments given us through His Son. "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day." John 12:48 There is no denial that the organization’s leaders have “prophesied falsely”. Your “priests”/elders rule by their own authority, by replacing God’s chosen priests. JWs seem to prefer it this way. It is better to be labeled as an apostate by men, who speak against God’s Truth... ...than as one who is found speaking against God's Truth in Christ, and spoken by the apostles. If I continue to uphold and am obedient to Christ's words, I am not an apostate before God. No one is. "and all of them will be justly judged for believing falsehood, refusing the Truth, and enjoying their sins." 2 Thess 2:12

When pondering over how to answer you, I realized I have to keep in mind that your own caustic, sweeping attacks against me, can be influenced by your age, and pain that you suffer from. It can be from your experiences throughout your life. Your relief is found through the organization; its people and its teachings. So, it is a must that you must defend its rulership and its teachings, no matter if they have proven to be false (rotten – Matt 7:15-20). It is my purpose to defend God and Christ and Truth. Books and videos produced by the organization mean nothing if they hold lies. Jesus Christ does not offer something called “truth”, only to be found a few years later that it was a lie. Men do these things, who have no Holy Spirit within their heart. “But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.” 1 John 2:27 To say the organization speaks truth is blasphemy against Holy Spirit - the Spirit of God and Jesus. Rev 13:1,5 Jesus sent his first priests, the foundation of the Temple, to preach: The eleven disciples traveled to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had directed them. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped, but some doubted. 18 Jesus came near and said to them, “All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples ofall nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Do you see that it was Christ’s priests who were given this commission? They were to teach and baptize accordingly. This was their active ministry, one that each anointed is responsible to carry out, down to today. Who baptizes in the organization? And who do those who are baptized, dedicate themselves to? It is only your "priests" who lead you, that say God's priesthood must stop acting as His priests. In his prayer to God: “ Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 I sanctify myself for them, so that they also may be sanctified by the truth.” John 17:17,18 If the anointed are “sanctified” by God’s Truth, and they realize that others are not teaching God’s Truth, their defense should be made for His Word in Christ. 3 For although we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh, 4 since the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh , but are powerful through God for the demolition of strongholds. We demolish arguments 5 and every proud thing that is raised up against the knowledge of God, and we take every thought captive to obey Christ. 2 Cor 10:3-5 The apostles taught the “called” ones, how to carry out this will of God. They set the precedence of this mission. They fulfilled their role as priests during their lifetime. Therefore I, the prisoner in the Lord, urge you to live worthy of the calling you have received, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, 3 making every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope at your calling— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all. 7 Now grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 For it says: When he ascended on high, he took the captives captive; he gave gifts to people. 9 But what does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower parts of the earth? 10 The one who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens, to fill all things. 11 And he himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12 equipping the saints for the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ, 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God’s Son, growing into maturity with a stature measured by Christ’s fullness. Eph 4:1-13 The anointed in the organization are captivated by a belief system, a “stronghold” that tells them not to carry out their mission as priests. Each gift that is designated to “Israel’s” priests is now taught as gifts given to “Gentile” elders. (this is in your magazines) Their mission to preach truth they received, poured into their hearts upon their anointing, is not used. (Matt 25:1-4,19) They are told they “do not necessarily have more holy spirit than anyone else” (also in your magazines). This cinches the deal, doesn't it. Stop being priests and be our slaves to false teachings. That is essentially what your organization is telling them. Paul NEVER taught this. (Rom 6:16) The elders have taken the role of priests instead, apparently “anointed” by men. (2 Chron 13:9) They have assumed this ministry belongs to them, and not to Christ’s priesthood. Should this role stop simply because men say so? There is no scripture to indicate that God’s priests must succumb to the wishes of men. ( Ezek 44:6-9) Every faithful priest since the first century, was found faithful for their defense of Truth. Daniel prophesied that the “fourth Beast”, Revelation’s Beast from the Sea, would “make war” against the saints – against the anointed priesthood. (Rev 13:5-7) This war is not with literal weapons, but with lies spoken against them. (Rev 16:13,14) It is a time of rebellion against God’s Temple arrangement in Christ, and is being carried out in your organization. Rev 11:1,2; 2 Thess 2:3,4 It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and His sanctuary was thrown down. 12 Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people[a] and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground. This truth that is thrown down, is God’s Truth – “sanctify them by truth, your word is truth”. It is replaced by false teachings, “demonic expressions” from false “christs” – your leaders who tell the priests they are not to mature, not to gather and bond as one Body in Christ. (Matt 24:24) To summarize, did anyone tell the first priests of God’s Temple built on the Son of God, that they were not to act as priests? (Matt 16:18,19) Did the apostles teach them not to gather together and be as one Body under Christ? Your organization teaches oppression and dark lies against the anointed. The anointed that I know, who have joined Christ, now realize the meaning of 1 Pet 2:5-10 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” 8 and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for. 9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.” A priest is to declare truth – God’s Truth, and give Him praise and glory. And, if the priests, “living stones” are rejected as they are in the organization, so is the chief cornerstone. They are members of “one Body”. 1 Cor chapter 12

This is what you said earlier, with a bit of a different twist to it: “The point is not who organized Paul's personal ministry and who chose him ....but who he himself was subject to report to. In proof: He went all the way back to Jerusalem to go and report to the "body" that was making central decisions about circumcision of former pagans now in the congregation. All that travelling to report to an organization headed by James in Jerusalem? It indicates he viewed himself as subject to them and their opinions mattered for the unity if all the congregations.” https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/forums/topic/84867-c-t-russell-was-labeled-as-an-apostate-by-the-adventists-in-1877/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-134575 “subject” - to bring under control or dominion, subjugate to make (someone, such as oneself) amenable to the discipline and control of a superior I used the words, “submit and humble” in my comment. “submit” - to permit oneself to be subjected to something to yield oneself to the authority or will of another : surrender I hate to say this, Arauna, but the words were already in your mouth. Besides the fact that you are downplaying a mega corporation's leadership and their sins by attempting to shine the spotlight on a nobody, is laughable. There's got to be a psychological label for this. Can you find any words of mine that says I cannot make a mistake? When we pray, do we not each day, and throughout the day, ask God for forgiveness for any sin we may have committed? If I sinned against anyone, and I have, I approach them with my sin, asking for forgiveness. God’s twelve apostles, with Christ, “judge” by the words of Christ. He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. John 12:48 Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: “That You may be justified in Your words, And may overcome when You are judged.” Rom 3:4 Paul is the twelfth apostle, chosen by Christ. As I’ve said here before, if I had hate for JWs, I wouldn’t be here. I would walk away from the whole lot of you. If we care about someone, and we know that person has made a grave error that will affect their life, we would speak up, right? I have “brothers and sisters” in the organization that I care for. I know they need to hear Christ’s truths. Rev 11:1-3 All true disciples of Christ must humbly accept what they have done wrong in their worship and how they live their lives. It is the refinement that these days impresses upon us. God’s priesthood of “Levi”, languish in the organization; quiet, and spiritually robbed of the individual personal sacrifices necessary to give to God. Mal 3:1-3) (Dan 8:12,13; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4) They speak the same language as false christs do. Matt 24:24; Rev 13:16-18; 2 Thess 2:9-12 And it is all lies. Every one of us, must stand in front of Christ, giving testimony to what and to whom we believe in. If it is the arrangement of the organization, and not the “arrangement” in God’s spiritual organization/Temple of God, we will be found as idolaters. If we put our faith in an organization and not God alone, we will be found as idolaters. This is why Michael, whose name means “Who is like God?” stands up in the last days, to alert his servants to their sins and the need for repentance. Dan 12:1; Rev 11:1-3; Rev 2:19-21; 4-6; 14,15; 3:18; 18:4-8

Both you and @the Sower of Seed, say that Paul had to submit and humble himself to the "older men" in Jerusalem, and do their will; to go and preach where these men directed them. Gal 1:10 Firstly, scripture shows us this is not true. Acts 8:29; 13:2-4; 11:11,12; 16:6-7; 20:22 Secondly, put the GB that you know, back in Jerusalem as these “older men”/Governing Body during Paul’s time period. Picturing your eight men as those in Jerusalem, how does that seem to you? Your men are not inspired by Holy Spirit, but come equipped with man’s rules and doctrine to run an organization, in whatever that requires aside from the Bible for that time period. It would be similar to the Pharisees adding additional decrees to God's Word. Is it acceptable for a prophet/teacher/foundation stone of God’s Temple in Christ, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) to submit to men and their “rules”, when he said specifically… “Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.” Col 2:20-22 Can you imagine Paul or any of the apostles submitting to your GB leaders, in that example? This is basically what @the Sower of Seed was saying. He has learned this from the GB, who have made up stories about a centralized organization present in Jerusalem, even so far as using the term "governing body" for those "older men". All of this is to add magical credence to GB's spurious position. Paul was directed by Holy Spirit, not by men. Side point, you must not have heard the news. The GB have already received their heavenly reward, it’s now a matter of making the trip to pick it up. Gerrit Losch: “To appreciate the extent of Jehovah’s and Jesus’ trust in the faithful slave reflect on what he has promised its members. He has promised them immortality and incorruption. Soon, JUST BEFORE ARMAGEDDON the remaining members of the slave will be taken to heaven.” “Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ COMPLETELY trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?” What sort of person who admits they have led JWs in error, would be so confident before God and Jesus by saying firstly, God “completely” trusts them? Secondly, that they WILL be going to heaven before hearing the verdict? Matt 25:19-21 The foundation stones of the Temple, who are the 12 apostles, will judge all anointed during their lifetime with the help of Christ. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” Matt 19:28 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. Rev 7:4 It’s very possible that the apostles judged the “older men” in Jerusalem if they were anointed. But you say, that Paul had to be submissive to their direction! Do you believe that the GB, who consistently makes subtle comparisons of itself to the apostles, will be excused for their self-righteousness? Are they “pure and blameless” to serve Christ and the Father? Is there “no lie” found in their mouths? Rev 14: 4,5 Do you believe Jesus will excuse their presumptuousness in declaring their position in heaven with him , before he finds them worthy? What about their “brothers and sister” in Christ? Since the GB uses an elder army to judge the anointed ones, will they not be responsible before God’s judging panel, for usurping the apostle’s authority given to them by Christ? Rev 20:4,11-15; Dan 7:9,22; Jude 1:14,15 The organization is a bottomless sink hole of sin and deception. I believe the GB were once anointed by God, but chose to forsake this gift for another. It is evident in their desire to build their earthly "kingdom" and rule over the Body of Christ. Luke 4:5-7; Rev 8:10,11; 13:11,12, 5-7 @Arauna "I have seen enough on here to understand that you have no sense of justice or mercy - only false accusations. Satan was an accuser day and night. To quote the same tons of scriptures over and over is not wisdom." To speak profusely, by condemning someone over and over without scripture to back up their words, is not spiritually wise. . http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/resurrectionjudgmentlife-and-death.html Maybe they don't want to reopen an old wound. “It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone.” Rose Kennedy

I understand, and I can see why you haven't returned to read comments. The exjw group there, may just eat you alive.

What is interesting about your comment, is that the reddit site where you posted your book is not the "exjw" site, but for "Jehovah's Witnesses". On there, you will find both JWs, and exJWs. Just like here, where you visit frequently, and post regularly. Just saying.

Well, a few have. Not me. Yep, it probably contains the same crowd that visits facebook.

For a book, to advertise discretely on reddit, I suppose. That's okay. I quickly scanned it over, with mixed reviews.

I had to revisit this, since I don't think you realize your own contradictions. 1) The GB is compared to the apostles (2 The GB are leaders of the organization 3) Paul, an apostle had to "humble" himself to the leadership of the "Way" or "organization. 4) This implies that the GB are higher in "rank" than the apostles! BLASPHEMY! Can you see this? 4) The apostles are the foundation of the Temple of God in Jesus Christ. 5) The GB are the "foundation" of the organization called the WB&TS Are there two foundations/"organizations" that God approves of? One is spiritual and written in the Bible, The other is earthly, and is not. Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. Eph 2:20-22 Only one "mountain"/"organization" will be chosen by God. The one that is built on Christ as its "chief cornerstone". Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-genuine-mountain.html

Phil 3:19 - They are ruled by their bellies, their glory comes by shame, and their minds are fixed on the things of this world. They are doomed.

According to God's Word, they have adulterated the teachings of Christ and the apostles. To apply "sacred" to a building is idolatry, let alone to a corporation by calling it "spirit-directed". No doubt JWs would admit that Catholics are idolaters: "Whether you've been in a church many times or are new to its sights, sounds, smells and bells, knowing the rich meaning and history behind our sacred spaces and symbols can help us appreciate and deepen our faith. Churches reflect the communities who built them and the times and circumstances in which they are used. No two churches are alike, but each sacred space is used to celebrate the same Mass with our fellow Catholics. https://www.catholicextension.org/camp-catholic/sacred-spaces-symbols Somehow the point is missed when it comes to the organization. Since Christ, can you tell me of any incident in the scriptures that describes a building OR earthly organization as "sacred" and approved by God? Acts 7:24,25,29-31 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.” Does the GB need to repent for creating idols? Do the Catholics?

I don't apply the term, "sacred" to anything I own, including my house. Do you?

How many times as a JW have you read this scripture below? When does its meaning truly sink in? When we leave the Watchtower behind, and our eyes finally perceive Watchtower's earthly lusts. "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever." 1 John 2:15-17

This is such a successful, and pervasive lie. If there was a leadership that needed attention other than those who’s words are in the Bible, you would think books would have been added concerning their “leadership” and “organization”, as a solid template for your own leadership. WT has taken one account and blown it out of proportion…to suit their earthly, insatiable desires. You may want to see the conversation Arauna and I had on the subject: https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/forums/topic/84867-c-t-russell-was-labeled-as-an-apostate-by-the-adventists-in-1877/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-134575 "Paul, an apostle (not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead)" Gal 1:1 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. Gal 1:6-10 The Way then and now, is NOT by means of an earthly organization. This is the Way to life: "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6 “A highway will be there, a road, and it will be called “The Holy Way”. The unclean shall not pass over it, but it will be for those who walk in the Way. Wicked fools shall not go there.” Isa 35:8 You are turning your head away from WT’s obvious sins, which is so foolish. Where do we find the source of WT’s sins? It is with your leaders who are not appointed by God. If they are uninspired, they assume a role of “faithful and discreet”. “Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you. Whoever does what God approves of, has God’s approval as Christ has God’s approval. 8 The person who lives a sinful life belongs to the devil, because the devil has been committing sin since the beginning. The reason that the Son of God appeared was to destroy what the devil does. 9 Those who have been born from God don’t live sinful lives. What God has said lives in them, and they can’t live sinful lives. They have been born from God. 10 This is the way God’s children are distinguished from the devil’s children. Everyone who doesn’t do what is right or love other believers, isn’t God’s child. 1 John 3:7-10 Bloodshed happens every day in your organization. The innocent are “condemned” for rejecting this lying organization. If one finds “the Way” in Christ, your leaders “kill” them. John 16:2; Rev 13:15 11 The message that you have heard from the beginning is to love each other. 12 Don’t be like Cain. He was a child of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did Cain murder his brother? Because the things Cain did were evil and the things his brother did had God’s approval. 13 Brothers and sisters, don’t be surprised if the world hates you. The world that hates those who find the right Way, is your world. Sir, you are on a path designed by “wicked fools” to lead you away from truth in Christ.

Thank you, @4Jah2me for bringing up Eccl 12:12! Within the last one hundred plus years, men who profess to represent Christ, have written many works of fiction about a “unique” idea called, “Jehovah’s earthly organization”. (Eccl 12:10-12; Matt 24:24) Before this apparently “thrilling” concept was ever born, the term “organization” was viewed as “wholly un-necessary”, for it would bind another’s conscience. The idea of “organization” was considered “out of harmony with the spirit of the divine plan”. That divine plan, or administration, includes the Holy Ones built on The Body of Christ, and is the dwelling place of God’s Spirit. (Eph 1:4,5,9-14,18-23; 2:20-22; 1 Cor 3:16; 1 Cor 12:11,12,14,18,27,28) Those brief days where God’s saints fully represented His spiritual house, have come and gone. It is interesting to reflect on the reputation of the man who spoke of God’s divine plan, and his relationship with the organization. He taught the truth outlined above, as well as obvious lies such as his teachings incorporating the pyramids. While today’s leaders reject it all, he is still praised as a loyal, faithful servant of God. However, all who are in agreement with these particular statements above, are viewed as not loyal or faithful to “Jehovah’s organization” but deserve spiritual “death” by disfellowshipping. (John 16:2; Rom 6:5; Heb 13:13; Rev 11:3,7; 13:11-15) This concept, that contradicts the divine plan, requires earthly treasures to be procured and utilized, in order to house people from all nations; physically bringing them under several roofs - meeting places that are all said to belong to God. These are people deceived into believing they are whole-souled in their devotion to God. (Jer 23:16; Rom 1:20-22,25; 2 Thess 2:9) In the early years, this brainchild continued to attract the “saints”, by using scripturally sound offerings of Christ’s truth, as bait for the hook. (Matt 5:6; 1 Pet 2:2)(Ps 141:9; Luke 17:23; Matt 24:24; 2 Tim 3:5; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Rev 13:11,12) They were invited, welcomed, and told to watch and take part in God’s plan, as He uses an organization founded in the world of commerce, religion and politics, to accomplish His will. (2 Cor 11:3,4, 13-15;1 Tim 4:1; 2 Tim 3:5-7; Phil 3:18,19) The saints, God’s priests of “Israel”, (1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 5:10) eventually become residents in name only, because their time to “rule” will not occur until the Kingdom arrives, or so the leaders of this ingenious idea tell them. They have been consumed by a tally of millions who have joined what is now, a necessary “evil”. Lam 1:3,5,6 There is nothing wrong with believers in Christ gathering with anointed ones. It is prophesied to occur in the “last days”.( Zech 8:23; Isa 2:1-3) And, it is happening on the other side of the WT fence, never to be organized by man’s will. (Zech 4:6) What is wrong with the organization, (and this is only one point) is its leaders’ dismissal and trampling of God’s priests, gradually, over time. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 12:1-4; 16:13,14;20:7-9; Ezek 38:11,16; Rev 9:3,4) It is part of the necessary evil, devised by Satan to declare accusations against them, in the sight of God. ( Job 1:9-11; Luke 22:31;6:22,23; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:4; Dan 11:36; 7:25) So as it is, JWs believe God uses earthly treasures under Satan’s control, to carry out His will, but does not use His chosen people to facilitate it – a priesthood under their High Priest, Jesus Christ.( Heb 2:17) In this scheme, even Christ appears to have chosen others to serve him – “Gentile” elders, who are said to “represent” God’s priesthood. (2 Chron 13:9; Ezek 8:5; 44:6-9) Undoubtedly, this is out of harmony with the spirit of the divine plan, but in full harmony with a delusion that all anointed and those with them in the organization, are found participating in. (2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 18:3) Earthly treasures build an earthly organization, which needs men with natural instincts, to appoint men with the same innate desires. (Luke 4:5,6; James 3:15) As the early leader also expressed, the natural man must visibly see power at work accomplished by an organized people, holding fast to a written purpose and plan. A group of spiritual individuals are led by the Spirit of God, and not by man. (1 Cor 2:14) This takes faith, not in the power of self, but in the power of Christ. (2 Cor 12:9,10) Those with earthly desires keep the organization up and running, appearing to administer teachings about God……or, is it to administer teachings about an organization? When it is viewed in this light, we must ask, why would God use His appointed priestly members of His heavenly Temple to fulfill their role as priests, in an organization advancing in the “kingdom” of Satan? (2 Cor 6:14-18) He certainly would not divert from the plan He presented to us, through His Son. What we visibly see by the organization’s existence, is all the result of Satan’s craftiness. ( Isa 28:14,15; John 8:44) This adulteration of one’s faith, has slyly slipped into the hearts of the anointed ones and their companions. (Isa 1:21; Jer 25:5-7,29) Men and their treasured fabrication has brought about the downfall of God’s saints, the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed”. (Dan 7:7,8,21) God’s people and companions with them, have fallen for Satan’s trap, and are led into an idolatrous act of giving worship to an “image”. (Lev 19:4; 1 Cor 10:7; 1 John 5:21) The “daily sacrifices” to be performed before God by his priests, are nonexistent. A counterfeit priesthood offers “abominations”, unto the Wild Beast of blasphemy, that they serve. (Rev 13:1,2) All of the early truth about organization as un-neccessary, has dissolved over time; and the organization today, at its peak of corruption, shows evidence of its peak as a blasphemous lie against God’s anointed, spiritual “organization” under Christ. (Rev 16:13,14) As the record shows, there is a long list of failed teachings - falsehoods, rampant child abuse that is fought in the courts of the world, spiritual bloodshed through the judgment of “death”; involvement in the world of the nations, involvement in various world investments, the trampling down of God’s Temple in the anointed ones, the cold lack of love for the “poor” in heart, and a false sense of “peace and security” that veils its sins. ( Isa 56:10,11; 1 Thess 5:3) It is all a cunning decoy by Satan, to derail the saints from serving God and Jesus Christ – whole souled. (Matt 22:36-38) God’s “overseers”, shepherds, priests of the divine plan under Christ, are the anointed ones. It is quite clear that an army of a visible organization has confiscated these roles for themselves. The apostle Paul wept bitterly over the transgression of God’s spiritual “administration” to happen, after his time: “And now I know that none of you, among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom, will ever see my face again. 26 Therefore I declare to you this day that I am not responsible for the blood of any of you, 27 for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole purpose of God. 28 Keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock, of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son. (Rev 5:9,10) 29 I know that after I have gone, savage wolves will come in among you,not sparing the flock. 30 Some even from your own group will come distorting the truth in order to entice the disciples to follow them. 31 Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to warn everyone with tears.” Acts 20:25-31 “distorting the truth” - to oppose, plot against the saving purposes and plans of God. "Woe to the sinful nation, a people whose guilt is great, a brood of evildoers, children given to corruption! They have forsaken the Lord; they have spurned the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on him. Wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight; stop doing wrong. 17 Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow. See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers! 22 Your silver has become dross, your choice wine is diluted with water. 23 Your rulers are rebels, partners with thieves; they all love bribes and chase after gifts. They do not defend the cause of the fatherless; the widow’s case does not come before them. I will turn my hand against you; I will thoroughly purge away your dross and remove all your impurities. 26 I will restore your leaders as in days of old, your rulers as at the beginning. Afterward you will be called the City of Righteousness, the Faithful City.” 27 Zion will be delivered with justice, her penitent ones with righteousness. 28 But rebels and sinners will both be broken, and those who forsake the Lord will perish." Isaiah, chapter 1 There is a well-known saying, “all that glitters is not gold”. When I was a young child camping along mountain streams with my family, I was fascinated with the flecks of the mineral pyrite that swirled in the shallows by the banks. I waded those streams for hours, sweeping up waves of glitter with my feet. Although I had learned early on that pyrite is “fool’s gold” as my father told me, I was still delighted by its ability to catch the sun’s light and dance gracefully through the water. Jesus knew that in the last days his people would be captivated by the false light of Satan’s ministers, offering the “gold” of fools, found swirling in a river of lies. (2 Cor 11:13,14; Dan 11:10; Luke 17:21; Rev 12:15) He says, “Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed and repent.” Rev 3:17-18 Please consider Mal 3:1-4 When the last of the 144000 candidates are chosen (previous to being sealed), Satan creates an impossible spiritual climate (Great Tribulation). All these last ones, in ignorance, fall into sin (Matt 25:5; Isa 63:5; 59:16; Ezek 22:30; Jer 5:1; 8:6; Ezek 13:5; 14:14,20). If it were not for Christ standing up in our behalf (Dan 12:1; Psa 94:17; 13:3; Rev 13:7-9), we would have been finished (Matt 24:4,22). If you will notice in Mal 3:1,3...Jesus goes to his "temple" to cleanse them of this sin. Only those "written in the book" (Dan 12:1 d) will receive this "rescue". Who are they? Rev 13:8,14 and Rev 20:4,15; 14:9,10; 15:2; 19:20 help us to see what is involved. Those deemed worthy of rescue (Mal 3:16; Nahum 1:13; Ps 107:10,14; 86:13; Jer 30:8; 1 Pet 2:9,10; Rev 9:6,10,14), are those whose heart can repent of the idolatry of the Image of the Beast (Joe. 1:13; Rev 11:3; Mal 2:4; Isa 22:12; Jer 4:8; Ezek 7:18; 21:12; Joel 1:8,9; 2:14). Pearl Doxsey http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/11/what-makes-presence-of-jesus-with.html

The sin David committed didn’t affect all of Israel. He was remorseful and we have the record of his heartfelt repentance and mourning before God. The sin of spiritual adultery by Israel’s leaders, affected all of God’s people, since it was sourced in teachings and idolatry promoted by the leaders themselves. Because of that, God allowed suffering to come upon them. The Pharisees in Jesus’ day were adulterers. Jesus told his listeners to turn to truth, not to tolerate their behavior, or their teachings…not to share in their sins. Those that didn’t listen, lost their lives! Never does God expect us to sit back and absorb all the evil coming from those who speak it. That is hypocrisy. The “world” that Jesus preached to, was the Jewish system of things. In his prayer to God, he said of his disciples, “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. John 17:6 "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever." 1 John 2:15-17 How can we be found acceptable before God if we even remotely entertain the misconduct of leaders ruling over us, who are not in the least repentant for their sins? To be “no part of the world” in that day, meant rejecting Israel’s sins. In the world of the organization, it means the same thing, where spiritual "Israel", God's people, resides. Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “‘Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; 5 for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes. 6 Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. Pour her a double portion from her own cup. 7 Give her as much torment and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, ‘I sit enthroned as queen. I am not a widow; I will never mourn.’ 8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine.” Rev 18:4-8

I wouldn’t even consider it. The organization and its leaders have a tainted reputation, that goes way back. Follow it, and tell me if you cannot perceive its deception. It breaks each of God’s laws in Christ, but has an uncanny ability to hide this fact from those who are more loyal to the organization than they are to God and His decrees. Ps 119:18-24 I defend God, Arauna. I defend Christ. I don’t defend an illusion. And neither should you. Zech 10:2; Rev 18:4-8

It is a pyramid scheme, or so it seems! Because there is no transparency of where funds go, no one but those at the top of the pyramid, know how much money has been foolishly squandered in the “making of many books”. But, JWs put full trust in the secure hope that their donations/investments in the company are wisely used – a “gift” they give, but that never brings solid, "well fastened" returns. I appreciate the verses directly before what you quoted: Further, because the Preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge. Yes, he pondered, sought out, and set in order many proverbs. 10 The Preacher sought to find out acceptable words, and that which was written blamelessly, words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are like goads; and like nails well fastened are words from the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. Eccl 12:9-11

Not as a JW in the JW world. It is anyone's business? Does the WT have any right to tell someone what to do with their money, or even suggest it? Was a contract written up? Tell me, since you have done the research. If the people signed a contract with the WT, that is their choice to be taken as a fool.

For you, this is a “sign and wonder” that the organization is blessed by God. I presented another religion with a very competitive track record of charity works, that easily squelches your statement, and you’re taking offense. The GB had a home but decided they needed a better one. With JW donations and volunteer work, it was accomplished. No one, who labored in this effort either monetarily or physically ,was reimbursed one dime. The same people who helped finance the GB’s new home, pay monthly into their house insurance that is available when disaster may cause the loss of their home. This is on top of paying their mortgage, which guarantees they keep their home. The GB doesn't pay into house insurance and they are not responsible to pay a mortgage. Watchtower, in all pomp, rallies forth volunteers, and sweeps in to restore someone's home if lost during a disaster. Yet, also expects the insurance check when it is finished. Who's making out in both situations? Whose ahead in both scenarios? The Watchtower. This is robbery at its worst. You can’t see it, but you can smell it, and it stinks. Srecko called it when using 2 Cor 11:14 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you. James 5:1-6

For all of you dissecting this case, an opinion from a retired justice of the Montana Supreme Court "Religion does not give sexual predators a pass" https://helenair.com/opinion/columnists/religion-does-not-give-sexual-predators-a-pass/article_f22cf868-64b0-56c0-8028-6e690731adb3.html

Article in People Magazine: https://people.com/crime/jehovas-witnesses-alleged-sex-abuse-oxygen-documentary/?fbclid=IwAR3DWbOD6ihak4wOe7rtv0GIkNfppgH0MlGs56RtjpSE_kdXHcqB4xS6J-o