Witness

The Mark of the Beast of Rev 13:18 is the application of a physical, emotional and spiritual identification of serving and submitting oneself to the Wild Beast; to its mission, teachings by a false prophet that it directs (Beast from the Earth, Rev 13:11,12) and allowance of its controlling power over an individual. This servitude begins with baptism in the organization; it continues through submission to its philosophies and expectations of only “buying and selling” spiritual “food” that it offers – no matter the quality. Matt 12:34,35; Rev 13:16,17 This mark contradicts the identifying mark we should be bearing: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 5 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.” Deut 4:5-8 Hopefully, you see the difference. We can’t profess to symbolically tie God’s commandments on our hands and foreheads, and also follow the commands and doctrines of men that have been proven to be wrong. This is idolatry. The “two witnesses” of Rev 11:3, reject the “mark of the Beast” and are “killed” for doing so. Rev 11:7 They come off “victorious”. These are the symbolic “two” (meaning truth) anointed witnesses who stand with Christ. (Zech 4) We cannot be considered victorious about anything, unless we conquer it. In your physical view that the UN/nations is the Beast, you would have to accept that a literal death would occur to the literal two anointed ones who had at one point accepted the “mark” of the Beast (which some believe is also literal), and then be physically killed later, for rejecting it. This is nonsense. “I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. 19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. 20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. 21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” Rev 3:15-22 Jesus doesn’t offer us material riches, but the riches of Truth and Life. Those who are wretched and poor, are buying their spiritual food from a false prophet and the organization it directs - the two Beasts of Revelation. JWs are content to rely on the Beasts to feed them, instead of Christ. Although they believe they serve only God, and bear His mark, they bear the “mark” of those whom they wholeheartedly support, the earthly endeavors of men and their doctrine. Matt 6:24; 2 Tim 4:3,4 To prove that the Beast of Revelation 13:1,2 is the Watchtower and houses JWs, Revelation 15 reveals the victorious ones, who were sensible enough to accept Christ’s discipline and his “gold”, and remove the “mark of the Beast”: I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God’s wrath is completed. 2 And I saw what looked like a sea of glass glowing with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and its image and over the number of its name. They held harps given them by God 3 and sang the song of God’s servant Moses and of the Lamb: “Great and marvelous are your deeds, Lord God Almighty. Just and true are your ways, King of the nations. 4 Who will not fear you, Lord, and bring glory to your name? For you alone are holy. All nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed.” Rev 15:1-4 All who remove the “mark of the Beast” and turn to Christ, fully accepting his discipline and his truth, bearing only God’s commandments on their forehead and on their hands, profess the True God and the Lamb, as our salvation. They reject idolatry: Kingdom Ministry 11/1990 p. 1 Directing Bible Students to Jehovah’s Organization "Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established." http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-letter-i-received-hi-sister-pearl-i.html

Well, you had better get ready for every JW to be taken captive by the United Nations/Beast. Rev 13:10 They will be “captured” by the “empty philosophy” of the UN and its religious conglomerate. Col 2:8 In your world, that coalition of nations will target and “blaspheme” the Temple/anointed priests, (Rev 13:5) somehow singling them out of 8 million people, to “make war” with them. Dan 8:24,11; Rev 13:6 The "saints" will be conquered. Rev 13:7 Yet, before that happens, all JWs will “worship” the United Nations, willingly bearing its mark. Rev 13:16,17 They will say, “Who is like the United Nations, who can fight a war with it?” Rev 13:4 As you now see, there is a developing cry of “peace and security” by the dual Beasts. It endeavors to proclaim "peace and security" for all who receive its mark. 1 Thess 5:3 Since you see things literally, some JWs under its captivity will then stand up to this UN Beast, and will be physically killed for speaking out against the dual rulership of a false prophet and Beast organization over them. Rev 13:1,2,11,12 Yes, if they reject the identifying mark of the UN Beast, they are killed. Yet, many JWs will choose to remain with the UN Beast. Rev 14:9-10; 16:2 Can you see THIS coming? This is the only way it can play out in your literal world. Can you also tell me how the UN will become “spirit-directed”? Rev 13:15 No other organization touts to be spirit-directed (“spirit breathed”), but the Watchtower. Rev 13:15 Satan is making his obvious display of prophetic fulfillment in the world, but in the hand he holds behind his back, is the threat that God’s people are already under. JWs believe they reside in "peace and security". Your leaders have even written a book about it.

Well, I'll tell you what , when the GB is deposed by the combined effort of "Gentile" elders and anointed "ten horns/kings" (Rev 17:12), then you will know that a prophet is among you. Ezek 33:33; Rev 11:1-3 That usually is the way it is perceived by the majority, when God sends a prophet to His people. None of them are gilded in bangles, creating a showy display of their means of life, or wielding great power through a great army that they install to keep their listeners enthralled, and in check. Rev 9:1-6; 13:11-17 God chooses the humble and despised, to do His will. "But God chose what the world considers nonsense to put wise people to shame. God chose what the world considers weak to put what is strong to shame. 28 God chose what the world considers ordinary and what it despises—what it considers to be nothing—in order to destroy what it considers to be something. 29 As a result, no one can brag in God’s presence." 1 Cor 1:27-29

We can fail in our interpretation of “prediction”. The “added bonus” is Satan’s display of deceit. If we believe Satan cannot deceive on such a large level, we are ignorant to his deceptions. 1 Pet 5:8; Eph 6:11,12; 2 Cor 11:13-15 If Jesus’ kingdom is “no part of this world” why would we look to Satan’s kingdoms for the signs of God’s Kingdom to arrive? “ Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” 22 Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. Luke 17:20-24 “does not come with observation” - αρατήρησις, in such a manner that it can be watched with the eyes, i. e. in a visible manner So, those who have a great following, encourage their adherents to look for observable signs in the earthly world, as evidence of the Kingdom to come. The leaders are saying, “See here! See there! Look here! Look there! We are warned not to go after them, not to fall for their dates that have failed, or must be twisted to fit a new prophetic understanding of them. I listened to some of Garret Losh’s speech to the Gilead graduates, where he listed a large number of failed prophetic dates for Armageddon, announced by people over the ages – one failed date per person. He then touched on the failed time table of the organization’s leaders, of which many, he didn’t reveal. Your leaders have been consistent in failing at observing the physical signs, to prove the coming of the Kingdom of God. Losh’s ploy of stating the long listing of failed prophesies before touching on WT’s failed predictions, was to minimize the mistakes by WT; as if to say, “see, we have committed less blunders than what you have just heard”. Jesus said it would come in the symbolic form of lightening flashing “under heaven”. If the signs are not “observable” this isn’t speaking of literal lightning to be literally seen. We know that lightning, rain, hail, snow in the Bible can have a symbolic tie with words, knowledge, blessings, judgment, condemnation. God and Christ use faithful servants to speak these words “at the proper time”. (Job 37:3,11,12; 38:34,35; Rev 4:5; 5:6; This sign of lighting, flashes of light meaning the revealing of spiritual understanding, is not sourced in anointed who still set their eyes on observable signs in the world. The world’s signs are steeped in Satan’s darkness, the sign of the coming of Christ, is the opening of Revelation scrolls and knowledge of what they mean. “Those who have insight will shine like the bright expanse of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.” "Many will be purified, cleansed, and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.” Dan 12:8,9; Rev 10:7; Amos 3:7;Rev 5:1,2,5,7,9,10; 1:1-3; 2:7,17,28; 1 Pet 1:19 Men who continually focus on the world’s actions, failing consistently in their effort to relate it to Christ’ arrival, should prove to us that light – understanding –is not sourced in Satan’s world. It only shows the darkness and foolishness that resides in their hearts. Rom 1:18-22 “ But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, evil men who push away the truth from them. 19 For the truth about God is known to them instinctively; God has put this knowledge in their hearts. 20 Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all God made, and have known of his existence and great eternal power. So they will have no excuse when they stand before God at Judgment Day. 21 Yes, they knew about him all right, but they wouldn’t admit it or worship him or even thank him for all his daily care. And after a while they began to think up silly ideas of what God was like and what he wanted them to do. The result was that their foolish minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming themselves to be wise without God, they became utter fools instead.” Rom 1:18-22 LB

Yes, which ties in with the point I was trying to make.

Faith is based on a promise to come. From our faith in the evident demonstration God’s Word supplies us, we develop within ourselves, faith in the promise; not by what we see happening in the world, which is Satan’s counterfeit “evidence”. If we intently observe the literal “ruining of the earth” as a sign that the Kingdom is to arrive, we have put our hope in Satan’s ability not only to ruin the earth but bring forth the Kingdom. When I read your comment, it appeared to me that you were explaining people’s selective blindness to the destruction already happening in the world…that YOU see. Because those certain people do not use that as evidence of the Kingdom arriving, you seem to apply their faith is not genuine. Your message was contradictory; while explaining literal destruction as the basis of one’s faith in the coming Kingdom, in your next comment, you then try to explain the unseen powers that have negatively affected the earth, as evidence to put one’s faith in. Yes, Satan is making an all-out effort to literally ruin the earth, but Revelation speaks of Satan’s ability to ruin the “earth” through the outpouring of deception, of lies. His Beast from the Sea doesn’t emerge from the literal sea. Rev 13:1 The “sea” represents wickedness (Isa 57:20; Jude 1:13,12) The Beast “makes war” with the “earth” – God’s people/saints/”mankind” under the “woman” covenant by using blasphemy – demonic expressions. Gal 4:26; Rev 13:5-7; 16:13,14 “So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.” Rev 12:15,16 (For any interested…Pearl Doxsey – “Earth Swallows Satan’s River”) None of the above is literally happening on the literal earth. Its significance is spiritual and occurring in the organization, where God’s anointed “inhabited earth”/owned “land” (John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:21,22; 2 Cor 6:16) is swallowing Satan’s deceitful, poisoned waters, through the teachings of a fallen anointed “star”. Rev 8: 10,11; Amos 6:1,12; Heb 12:14-17 (Matt 5:13; 2 Pet 3:7; 1 Pet 4:17 This composite leadership has JWs believing in Satan’s earthly manifestations as evidence of the Kingdom’s arrival, which is a lie. For everyone under the Harlot’s rule, it would be wise to heed Rev 18:4-8 “They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.” Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.” Luke 17:27,30 Satan’s flood, spoken by those who deliver it, brings with it, destruction. God enacts the judgment against its deliverers, because of its evil intent, to kill off the "remaining ones of the woman's seed". Dan 7:7,8,21,23,25; Rev 12:17,15; Dan 11:10 And the twenty-four elders who are seated on their thrones before God fell down on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying, “We give thanks to you, Lord God All-Powerful, the one who is and the one who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 And the nations were angry, and your wrath has come, and the time for the dead to be judged, and to give their reward to your slaves the prophets and to the saints and to the ones who fear your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.” Rev 11:16-18 http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/06/symbolic-earth.html

That’s not what Hebrews is saying: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. 3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10 for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Heb 11:8-10 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Heb 11:13 About the Christ: “Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy” 1 Pet 1:8 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." John 20:29 About the signs of the coming Kingdom: "Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say,‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” Luke 17:20-21 "For we walk by faith, not by sight." 2 Cor 5:7

“Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor’s services without pay And does not give him his wages, 14 Who says, ‘I will build myself a roomy house With spacious upper rooms, And cut out its windows, paneling it with cedar and painting it bright red.’ 15 “Do you become a king because you are competing in cedar? (“to vie with a rival”) Did not your father eat and drink And do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. 16 “He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; Then it was well. Is not that what it means to know Me?” Declares the Lord. 17 “But your eyes and your heart Are intent only upon your own dishonest gain, And on shedding innocent blood And on practicing oppression and extortion.” Jer 22:13-17 Theses scriptures are about King Josiah’s evil son, rebellious Jehoiakim. He was a young man of 25 years when appointed by an Egyptian Pharaoh as a subservient ruler over Judah. Pharaoh received the harsh, unjust taxation in silver and gold that Jehoiakim regulated on upon God’s people. (2 Kings 23:34-37) Yet, this didn’t stop Jehoiakim from building his luxurious palace with slave labor. In steps Nebuchadnezzar, who became the dominating ruling power over Judah, pushing Egypt out of the picture. For three years Jehoiakim paid tribute to him before rebelling against his rule. (2 Kings 24:1) Because of the intense aura of wickedness among His people, God allowed rebel nations to come against Judah, take them captive and enslave them. They were oppressed not only by their King, but by foreign nations as well. The account of this man’s wicked actions against God is shocking when we consider he was the son of the very faithful King, Josiah. But Josiah’s righteous acts of integrity were unparalleled among most of the kings who lived and breathed deep-seated apostasy. Jehoiakim ignored Jeremiah’s warning that for breaking God’s decrees, and by moving the nation into idolatry, the yoke of Babylon would come upon Judah. He persecuted and killed Urijah, a prophet from God bearing His warning, wanting also to kill Jeremiah. (Jer 26:7-13, 20-23) God always warns His people of disaster to come, as a result of acts of rebellious sin. 2 “Thus says the Lord: ‘Stand in the court of the Lord’s house, and speak to all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the Lord’s house, all the words that I command you to speak to them. Do not diminish a word. 3 Perhaps everyone will listen and turn from his evil way, that I may relent concerning the calamity which I purpose to bring on them because of the evil of their doings.’ 4 And you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord: “If you will not listen to Me, to walk in My law which I have set before you, 5 to heed the words of My servants the prophets whom I sent to you, both rising up early and sending them (but you have not heeded), 6 then I will make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth.” ’ ” Jer 26:2-6 From what I’ve read, the Rabbinical Literature have literal horror stories about him. I don’t know if they are all true, but this “godless, “arrogant” tyrant was known for his murders, his incestuous relationships; and of all things, his surgical effort to “hide the fact that he was a Jew”. Jer 22 3-5 You can read of this on Wikipedia. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+22%3A+3-5+&version=NKJV God’s words to Jeremiah were written on a scroll and presented to Jehoiakim by Jeremiah’s scribe, Beruch. He declared about this scroll’s intent, 3 It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the adversities which I purpose to bring upon them, that everyone may turn from his evil way, that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.” Jer 36:3 What was Jehoiakim’s reaction to the warning from God? “Now the king was sitting in the winter house in the ninth month, with a fire burning on the hearth before him. 23 And it happened, when Jehudi (one of the King’s servants) had read three or four columns, that the king cut it with the scribe’s knife and cast it into the fire that was on the hearth, until all the scroll was consumed in the fire that was on the hearth. 24 Yet they were not afraid, nor did they tear their garments, the king nor any of his servants who heard all these words.” Jer 36:22-24 For his defiance, Jeremiah was directed by God to present a more stringent message to Jehoiakim, which he also burned in the fire. (Jer 36:30-32) This rebellious personality, his lusts and use of slave labor of his own people to build his luxury palace, while enforcing tribute to be paid first to Egypt and then Nebuchadnezzar; are spiritually and surreptitiously reflected today, in the organization’s governing leaders. They have as well, “hid” their spiritual “Jewish” heritage; this time by forming an alliance with “Gentiles”. For their love of an idolatrous organization, God’s anointed priesthood have pandered to a dual power over them; of unfaithful “Israel” and an abomination of “Gentile” elder rulership. ( Jer 7:30; Ezek 8:6,9; Dan 11:31,32,36; Matt 24:15,16; Mal 2:8,9; 1 Pet 2:8; Rev 2:20) God has sent a primary prophet today to His people under covenant, with a progressively stronger message warning of the destruction of spiritual “Jerusalem”. (Luke 13:6-9; Matt 7:15-20; Matt 23:37-39; Jer 29:19; Matt 10:41; 25:40; Jer.25:29; Eze.7:2,5,6,8,16,26,14; Joel 3:14; Eze.21:6,7,14,12; Rev 11:3) “There is another evil I have seen under the sun. Kings and rulers make a grave mistake 6 when they give great authority to foolish people and low positions to people of proven worth. 7 I have even seen servants riding horseback like princes—and princes walking like servants!” Eccl 10:5-7 Although it is true that many letters from anointed ones exposing the organization’s sins were tossed and “burned in the fire” over the years by the its leadership, a prophet of God, an “Elijah” has been persistent in her message proclaiming the “abomination standing in the holy place”, and the need for restoration of true worship. As prophesied, the “two witnesses” of Rev 11:3 were “killed” for speaking on behalf of God, Christ and Truth. (Matt 17:11; John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7; 13:11,12,15 ) Pearl Doxsey speaks of this “abomination” that overcome God’s “saints” in the last days: The Image in Daniel is the antithesis of the Body of Christ, with Christ as head of that body (Col 1:18; 1 Cor 12:20; Rom 12:5). Satan is head of Daniel's Image (Dan 2:37,38; Luke 4:5,6). Satan is symbolized prophetically by both Nebuchadnezzar and Pharaoh of Egypt. The powers within Daniel's image, are specific powers that Satan has used to dominate those in Covenant with God. God allowed this during times when His people were rebelling against Him in defiant disobedience. The feet of the image shows that the reign over the anointed in the time of the end, is dual. Not only is the metallic element still there (as it was in the previous powers- All "Gentiles"-not God's people) (Gentiles-Iron); for the first time, the statue contains "clay" of the earth..."the offspring of MANKIND". (Dan 2:41-43) This clay represents those who belong to the "Potter" (Isa 29:16; 45:9; Jer 18:6; Rom 9:21), and they should be molded by Him alone. But instead, they mold themselves to the Iron (Gentiles) by conforming themselves to the iron, allowing the iron to mold them, rather than God. Unknowingly, these "clay" actually conform to Satan's will, becoming a part of Satan's dominion over God's people (Rev 9:1; 17:12). In a short time, that clay hardens to this form (as baked clay), and is no longer useful to its original owner. It is now suited only for destruction as an extension of Satan's "body". This has come to pass, in that the anointed today are dominated within the Organization, not only by spiritual "Gentiles" alone; but by their own brothers who have joined in with the Gentiles to dominate their brothers in Christ....the wicked steward with "confirmed drunkards" from outside the master's household (Matt 24:45-51). When Christ, through the final capstone, "smashes" the feet of the image of Daniel (Dan 2:34,45; Heb 11:10; Ezek 3:8,9; Isa 50:7; 45:17; 49:8; 54:4; Micah 1:2); it is not smashing all of Satan's world, but only the Image Satan has used to dominate God's people, which is NOT Satan's entire world-wide dominion. It is well known that the Image of Daniel does not contain all the political identities which have ever existed in Satan's world; But only ones which have dominated God's chosen people. (From “Iron and Clay”, Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness) There is a similar, yet spiritual outcome between Jehoiakim and the “false prophet”/Harlot ruling over God’s people. Upon Jehoiakim’s revolt against Nebuchadnezzar, Jerusalem came under siege by Babylon and Jehoiakim eventually died, possibly during the siege. Jer 22:19 - He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, Dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem. Jer 36:30 - Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah: “He shall have no one to sit on the throne of David, and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night. For today’s ruling “kings”, a revolution is about to occur. “The ten horns you saw, and the (“Gentile”) beast, will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, devour her flesh, and burn her up with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to carry out his plan by having one purpose and to give their kingdom to the beast until the words of God are fulfilled.” Rev 17:16,17 Simply, this means a raking over the coals and a disfellowshipping of the Harlot by the “Babylonian” Beast. (Rev 13:1,2; 11,12) The governing leaders will receive a designated spiritual “killing”. Rev 13:15 The organization that is presently directed by the Harlot; to rule over, enslave, and trample God’s anointed, will for reasons that are becoming progressively clearer, throw out the Harlot, beyond the “gates” of the “apostate city”. To know more about the “ten horns” that collaborate with the Wild Beast, see… “Eighth King/Punishment of the Great Harlot”, Pearl Doxsey

Jesus said that we would know the anointed who are listening to Christ, by the "fruits"/teachings they produce. Matt 7:20; Mal 3:18 The signs of the end clarifies that there would be false messiah's, false prophets to mislead the "elect". Matt 24:24 Revelation speaks of this composite false prophet that directs a "Beast" organization. Rev 13:1,2 Those who stand up to the false prophet are "killed". Their words reveal the identity of the "man of lawless"/Beast during the last days, that treads down the Temple/anointed. 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1-3,7; 13:11,15 These under the "woman" covenant, become a "carcass" (Rev 11: 7-10; 12:6) that any who yearn to know truth, will be directed to, by Holy Spirit. Those who search out truth, are the "eagles" (Luke 12:37) that are fed the "marriage feast" in the last days - the opening of Revelation's scrolls. All leaving the "city" are invited. Matt 22:1-14 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” 22 Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. 25 But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. 26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. 31 “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. 36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.” 37 And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?” So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.” There is no need for an earthly organization, since Jesus' Body of living stones , IS God's "organization". 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 12; Eph 2:20-22; 4:7-13 All the spiritual signs that we have, point to the "tribulation" that you presently are experiencing now; discerning truth from lies, spoken by the anointed ones. Verse 33: We "lose" the life we know when leaving the WT and its lies; if we turn to Christ, we preserve our eternal life to come. "Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. 52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” Luke 12:51-53 Pearl Doxsey - "YHVH's Genuine Mountain"

Now Tom, I thought you were a facebook fan, having your own page. Should I ask why you hang out there? God calls PEOPLE his own, not an earthly organization of any kind. John 4:21; Acts 7:48-50; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22

The scriptures compare the signs of Christ's presence for inspection, to a woman giving birth (Isa 26:17; Matt 24:8; Rev 12:2). Jesus was a perfect teacher, and the illustrations he chose, apply to the lesson he was teaching. If he compares the end time signs to birth pangs, then we know this period of "labor", and all the signs associated with it, PRECEDES the "birth" of the Kingdom! You have likely been taught, that the birth of God's Kingdom, took place at the beginning of these signs of labor. I ask you to use your power of reason to realize that the "birth" of the Kingdom, takes place at the end of these labor pains (Rev 12:1,2,5). However, once the remnant of the 144,000 are sealed (child is born), Satan still persecutes that "woman" (Rev 12:13,17) and her seed. These developments and signs (labor pains), are not a striking snapshot moment; but they are an unfolding, gradual, intensifying process (Matt 24:8,6c). So too, the composite "sign" of Christ's end-time "presence" for inspection (of the final chosen ones), intensifies over time. This is due to Satan causing tribulation/"birth pangs", to these "seed" being inspected, in the hopes that he can break their loyalty to God, and thereby, Satan hopes to buy extended time for his World Rule (1 John 5:19). You have likely also been taught that these labor pains/sign of the end, are visible in the physical world around us. This too, is a lie. I am not saying that a physical fulfillment will not take place. Satan is seeing to it that it does. But it is important to realize that the signs Jesus meant, were spiritual (Matt 13:10-13,34,35; 1 Cor 2:10,12,14; Rom 8:5). Jesus also knew that Satan would fabricate those signs within his own worldly and religious dominion (2 Cor 11:14,15; 2 Tim 3:5); as a visible, physical distraction from the true spiritual fulfillment. But it is NOT Satan's world which is giving birth to the Kingdom of heaven (John 8:23, Job 14:4; John 18:36). It is the "woman"/New Covenant (Rev 12:2; Gal 4:26) who brings forth the kingdom heirs (Rev 12:5; 2:26,27). The true labor pains then, are experienced with her and with her "seed" (John 16:20-). The labor pains of the Kingdom being born, are not to be found within Satan's demonic political and commercial system (James 3:15; Eph 6:12). God's Kingdom is not from that source (John 18:36; Heb 11:16). Any labor pains we see within Satan's world, is a decoy ruse...to distract the anointed away from perceiving and identifying with, the truthful interpretation of the sign/labor pains. As we know, a woman's labor ends with a delivery. This birth marks the completion of Christ's sealed administration (Eph 1:10; Rev 12:5; 2:26,27). All it's members are then faithfully sealed (Rev 12:10,11; 7:4). Can you reason that this achievement is not being accomplished within the realm of politics and commercialism? Any "labor pains"/"end time signs" we see emulated within Satan's political and economic world, are unrelated to Jesus' prophetic sign/labor pains of the woman/Covenant's giving birth to the Kingdom's heirs. She and her seed are no part of the world...including it's finances and politics (John 18:36; 17:16). Although Jesus began his power to gather the anointed Congregation and "ride" for the advancement of Truth as soon as he returned to heaven; God's kingdom rule over the planet earth did not begin then, NOR HAS IT YET BEGUN. Christ's own rule must first remove his enemies, and their power to deceive and kill (John 10:10; Heb 2:14; Matt 26:64; 1 Cor 15:24,25). This power is extended through Zion (Ps 110:1,2; Rev 14:1; Rom 16:20; 2 Cor 10:3-5; 6:7; Eph 6:12-14; Rev 19:11,14,8; 17:14). These chosen priests and kings imitate their King in the cause of truth and life. Satan is clearly still in control of the world (1 John 5:19). Satan is still testing, persecuting, and sifting the Chosen (Luke 22:31; Rev 12:10). This control will not be forcefully taken from him, until there exists the legal basis to do so (Rev 20:1,2;12:10,11) according to Yhwh's perfect justice. This basis is established, the moment the last anointed one is sealed, and the full number of the administration is completed (1 Pet 2:5; Zech 4:9-14; Rev 11:3,4). When established, God's eternal dominion does not begin immediately (Rev 12:5,6,13,14)... as was the case with the establishing of Christ's universal authority upon his faithful death (Eph 1:20,21). There is a slight delay of a symbolic 3 1/2 days (Rev 11:9,11) before that authority is fully exercised, and includes the removal of Satan, his power and dominion, and all those in his power. Once this birth occurs, the Kingdom government has been made ready! (Rev 12:5; 2:26,27) All those taken into it have proven their integrity through righteous acts and deeds (2 Pet 3:11; Rev 19:8), and Satan can no longer find legal basis to accuse these ones of lacking qualification (Rev 12:10b; Job 2:4; Prov 27:11; Rev 12:11). He accuses these ones in an attempt to delay the transition of world dominance, from himself, to the Kingdom heirs (Rev 11:15). This strategy of Satan has been legally successful up until the number is completed. But once the last of the "woman's" seed finish their course, there is "no delay any longer" (Rev 10:6; Heb 10:37). Those who were faithful over "a little", will now receive a full reward. (Matt 28:18-20; 25:23; Luke 16:10; Rev 2:26-29; 3:12,21) Yet those proving faithful to death (Rev 12:11; 6:9) do not merit this inheritance based upon their own work only (Rom 2:7; 1 Cor 3:13; 1 Cor 15:58 John 6:27). For, it is an undeserved gift of kindness (Rom 6:23; 1 Pet 3:7b) through the ransom, that finally grants these entrance into the ruling heavens as sinless incorruptible spirits (1 Cor 15:53; Heb 12:23; 1:7; 2:16; Rev 5:9,10). When Jesus began his presence for inspection of the final invited ones, the "birth pangs" began (Isa 26:17; Mark 13:8). Those who are the last to prove faithful, will seal the full number of Kingdom heirs. The last of these Holy Ones are those distinguished as the "great crowd", who "come out of the Great Tribulation" (Rev 7:14; 19:1,8). These symbolic "two witnesses" are also the "capstone" of God's "Temple" of 144000 priests (Zech 4:7,9; 1 Pet 2:5; Eph 2:20,21; 1 Cor 16). They are the sealed ones who passed the greatest and final test of integrity, designed by Satan to mislead these final ones (Rev 12:17; Luke 22:3; Matt 24:21,13; Luke 21:36). That test is connected to the "signs" of "labor". Will you fall for Satan's counterfeit "sign", and miss out on the true spiritual warnings? This is Satan's supreme, last ditch effort; in order to delay the transition of world power, from him (Rev 12:17; Matt 24:21,22). He hopes to delay his loss of Rule, by preventing the Chosen from perceiving the true spiritual interpretation of prophecy. Jesus also expects us to identify this "presence", not by a date, but by the signs he gave us (Matt 24:3; Rev 3:3). When the purpose of this inspection is fulfulled, it is later followed by his "arrival". That is when he will make clear to all creation, his choice of Sons (Rom 8:19). Judgment will then have been passed on all the final anointed/invited ones, and their "work" (1 Cor 3:13-15). Those who have passed this final "Great Tribulation" (Satan's test of loyalty), have remained spiritually awake and aware of their inspection, despite the groaning of birth and Satan's obscuring of Truth. Those who have not passed, became dull and forgetful as to Christ's requirements. Those who have turned aside (and fallen asleep spiritually), will prefer power and approval in this religious system of things, rather than the glorious one to come. (Luke 16:2,8; 1 Cor 4:8; Rev 17:12; John 12:43. They will seek physical signs and be mislead by them (Matt 16:2-4; 12:38,39; Rev 13:13,14; 2 Thess 2:9-11). They will not perceive the only true sign (Ezek 24:27; Matt 12:40; Rev 11:3,7,9). Unlike their exemplar Christ and his sealed ones, they will speak of their own originality (John 7:16-18). They will prefer the glory and power of this present religious system, to the humiliations of the Christ (1 Cor 4:8; Mark 10:42,43; Luke 16:19-31; Rev 11:2,7-11; Rev 11:2,7-11; Mark 8:34-38). Or, they will join with the Harlots who do (1 Cor 6:15; 2 Cor 11:2-4; Rev 17:1,2). The light shining in the lamps of the unfaithful, has been "bought" from men who "sell" (Matt 25:10; Rev 13:17; Isa 55:2; 2 Cor 2:17; 1 Thess 2:4; 2 Pet 2:3; Rom 1:25) What does this mean for those seeking God's approval? Take heed and take heart, that these signs of Christ's presence and the evident fulfillment of this final test on the anointed (Labor pains), both indicate that Christ's arrival is so very close (Luke 21:28). All Christians need to remain awake (Luke 21:36). How? Keep close in mind the actual requirements of God and Christ (Mal 6:8; Matt 22:37-39; 25:45,46; James 1:27) ...not the misleading doctrines of men (Matt 15:9). Realize that Christ warnings about the "end" are about integrity and loyalty to God alone....Not about the politics or economics of Satan's world. What are these divine requirements? To the anointed, it means they must have their lamps in order...certain that what they are shining is from Christ alone (Matt 25:7,12). They must dodge the prevalent climate of idolatry, spiritual fornication, a false sense of security, and inactivity (Luke 21:36; Rev 2:4,5,14,15,20-22; 3:1-3,16,19; Rev 13:8,11; 17:1,2; 18:3,9; Ezek 13:10; 1 Thess 5:3). They must be doing their best to shine their light, to reach as many as possible (Luke 12:35,36; Matt 5:14-16; 1 Pet 2:12). They must also go out to meet their bridegroom, by walking the same path he did as he neared the end of his life (1 Pet 2:21; Romans 8:17; 1 Pet 2:21; Rom 8:17; 1 Pet 4:19; Heb 5:8). For those not so chosen...these ones must remember the Law of the Christ....Love. (Rom 13:10; Gal 6:2,5,14) Jesus' sober warning to these is given at Matt 25:45,46. This Law of Love would need to be practiced by all sheep, toward Christ's proven brothers (Matt 7:20). This necessity becomes increasingly difficult to discern, and hard to carry out in the last days; as these very brothers are the ones shamed and persecuted during this time of giving birth, by the wicked steward (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:1-12; John 16:2-4; Rev 11:7-10; Luke 16:2; 12:45,46). Yet any unjust treatment inflicted upon these faithful, will be brought into account by Christ himself (Matt 25:31,32,40; Mark 9:42). Specifically, the woman who is having labor, are those already sealed. These are in tribulation while trying to give spiritual birth to those yet unsealed. Those sealed BECOME the heavenly covenant/mother of heaven, who is birthing those still coming to birth spiritually, previous to their being sealed (Rov 2:26,27; 12:25; Eph 2:6; 1:3; Rev 1:20; 10:5) (Gal 4:19; 1 Thess 2:7; Eph 4:13; 3 John 1:4; 1 Cor 4:1). Throughout the spiritual maturation process/cleansing, refinement of a chosen one, they are under a promise (New Covenant/mother in heaven Gal.4:26,28). This compares to a child developing in the womb. (Ps 110:3; 1 Thess 5:5; Judges 5:2; Micah 5:7; Gal 4:19) Once sealed (and born), they continue that growth, to become full representatives of that Covenant (Christ's 'Bride'/"Christ fully formed in you") and channel it's benefits to others (2 Cor 5:20; 1 Cor 4:1; Isa 42:6; Acts 13:47; John 7:38; Rev 22:17; Matt 5:14). These sealed ones are no longer subject to death (Rev 20:4-6; John 5:24; 1 John 3:14). Reading this at Pearls site provides for scriptures that pop up. Pearl Doxsey, "Labor Pains", 4womaninthewilderness

There is another Temple of “heavenly” Jerusalem today, that experiences these signs, but spiritually. The anointed are under the New Covenant “woman” – the covenant/promise of life in Christ. They also represent that promise. “woman” – These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. The entirety of the promise, of the “woman” who gives “birth” to God’s Kingdom, is through the faithfulness of those who survive the spiritual rendition of the signs of Matt 24, that come against them. Individually, they are “stones” of the Temple, now scattered throughout the organization. (“will a stone be left here upon a stone”) 1 Pet 2:5,9 They are told not to bond together – why? By following those orders, they put their trust in what men tell them. This diverts their needed faithfulness only to Christ. If today, they were united under Christ only, and not under a wicked slave and its counterfeit priests (Matt 24:48-51), the Kingdom would be here. The Temple capstone would be in place. Zech 4:5-9; Rom 8:19 I think we have to ask our self, who’s kingdom will vanish when God’s Kingdom is ushered in? Who doesn’t want to see any of us to have full devotion to God and Christ? To say that the anointed cannot bond has no basis in scripture. It is doctrine that serves one purpose, to keep the Kingdom from arriving, by suppressing the anointed from listening to Jesus, and enforcing them to choose men’s lies instead. I would suppose if the anointed were to make a concerted effort to gather as one today, they would all be disfellowshipped. Rev 13:15 The thing is, by doing so, they would be “conquering” Satan and his lies. Rev 13:1,11,14-18; 11:3,7; 15:2 If it could just be understood by JWs that Satan relies on deceit to mislead us into following what may appear as truth, but is in fact a lie. 2 Thess 2:9,10 Truth is flipped over, becoming something that looks like truth, but instead is a twisted version of it. “Demonic expressions” are the tool used by the Beast/organization and the false prophet who guides it. And they are used against Jesus’ “kings of the earth”. Rev 1:5; 16:13,14; 20:7-10 Many, choose to be deceived, (2 Thess 2: 9,10; Rev 19:19), while a remnant from among them, choose to listen to Christ. Rev 3:18; 21:24 "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born." Rev 12:1-5 The “sign” in verse three of the dragon with ruling “heads” and “horns”, is Satan’s Beast. “It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. “ Rev 13:1 To those part of the “woman”, the beast slanders the “heavenly” dwelling place of God – and that dwelling place is the anointed ones. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. Rev 13:5,6 Times in Revelation are not physical times, but symbolic with symbolic meaning. “You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." Matt 24:6 The Wild Beast “was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.” And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. Rev 13:7 So, this “war” is in the form of “demonic expressions” – demonic lies, coated to appear as truth. 2 Thess 2:9-12 You can see the effects of this type of war here, or on other forums. You can witness the war that even he GB fight against by their use of the term “apostates”, who are 'cooking up lies in Satan’s kitchen'. The war is made evident also, when elders have the authority to judge the anointed as spiritually “dead”. And, JWs are strictly told not to read anything by any other anointed or otherwise, but only what the “slave” produces. Not only are the anointed “conquered” with slanderous remarks such as they must not bond together, that they are not ruling priests but apparently elders are, the Beast has been given authority over all JWs; the Beast, which is comprised of the elder body. Rev 13:7,8 The article “Labor Pains” is well worth reading that I’m posting on this forum.

You still seem to have the idea that persons who are truly anointed will be inspired by Gods holy spirit and not let personal viewpoints get in the way. Look again at Acts 15: The truth in Christ is always true and can unite those who "remain" in him. Men's doctrine is based on supposition,on opinion, and unites those who choose to remain ignorant to truth. Matt 15:8,9; John 7:16,17; John 6:35; John 15:4; 1 Cor 10:17 "For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you." 1 Cor 11:18,19

It is a voluntary commitment which requires upholding the principles of the UN and its function. It is a choice to become part of the world that the WT teaches its members to stay out of. Of course, to uphold the principles of the Beast of WT, is sheer hypocrisy. There are two general categories of NGOs: (1) operational NGOs, whose primary purpose is the design and implementation of development-related projects, and (2) advocacy NGOs, whose primary purpose is to defend or promote a specific cause and who seek to influence the policies and practices of IGOs – Intergovernmental Organizations. (APA Office of International Affairs) “Only those who do not wish to see, can be deceived” D.H.

You have to remember, no one demanded that they become an NGO. It has nothing to do with "subjection to superior authorities." It has everything to do with integrity, which the GB/organization have none of. What were the other services that required them to become an NGO? Do you know? Do you know why they are NGO members in other countries? I don't. What need would an organization that believes it is directed by God, have in taking part in the nations of the world? How do you correlate THIS to Moses' day? Just think about it. From the book, "What the Watchtower Society Doesn't Want You to Know" The question was, “Has the criteria for getting a library pass to the United Nations changed?” Reply: “The procedure for a library pass is the following: the interested party needs to fill out an application form and supply a letter of recommendation in support of the research. If the needed material is not available in the UN depository library (the list of depository libraries is posted at: http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/deplib/countries/), the application is approved and sent to UN Security. UN Security checks the application and, if approved is granted, instructs the Pass office to issue a library pass for the applicant. The issuance of a library pass is independent of NGO status or any other status. There has been no change in the library policy.” Best Regards [Name] Senior Reference Librarian UN/SA Reference Desk United Nations Library, New York They didn't become an NGO simply to acquire a library card. The anointed do have a special “use”, to be a working priesthood, but contrary to scripture they are told to wait. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22 The elder body has been given special treatment, even special honor, as a priesthood to replace them. This is truly an abomination. 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1-3 We honor Christian elders when we show respect for their position and follow their direction. We also honor them by commending them for their hard work. WT 17/3/8 It is incredible, that respect is to be given to a position created by men, but not to a position created by God. Although it is a wonderful privilege to have the heavenly calling, anointed Christians do not expect any special honor from others. (Eph. 1:18, 19; read Philippians 2:2, 3.) Jehovah’s spirit bore witness to them personally. No announcement was made to the world. So they are not surprised if some people do not readily believe that they have truly been anointed by holy spirit. In fact, they realize that the Scriptures advise against quickly believing someone who claims to have a special appointment from God. (Rev. 2:2) WT 16/1 p. 22 Honor is given to the elders but not to God’s “special possession”. “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and will consider himself above any god, and he will speak horrendous things against the God of gods, yet he will succeed until the period of anger is finished, for what is determined will be done." Dan 11:36 Do elders have a special appointment from God? Your leaders tell you they do. They hand pick them. If the organization belonged to God, He would clearly make known who His priesthood is. Only they would be leading the flock. As it is, the anointed are there, invisible, and JWs should question why this is so. Rev 13:1,2,5-10 Most likely no one told the anointed priests up until the introduction of the organization, that they must WAIT…to offer sacrifices of praise as holy priests and to “teach” the sheep as priests were obligated to do. The faithful ones followed the direction of their Head, Jesus Christ. The apostles acted like priests and taught the incoming anointed how to also. Man’s “organization” changes the whole dynamics of scripture; bending God’s decrees to suit what men have built. 2 Chron 13:9; Ezek 44:6-9

Does this mean that the stipulation outlined here, doesn’t apply to the organization? A UN/DPI letter dated March 4, 2004, states, "The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies."[15] The letter explained that " by accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities. How, does the organization increase the understanding of, and support the UN Charter, and condemn them at the same time as the Wild Beast from the Sea who conquers God’s “saints”? Rev 13:16,17 That is lying in bed with the enemy, unless it really isn’t the enemy.

Because of this, the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, on account of the angels. What is that “symbol”? 11 Nevertheless, neither is woman anything apart from man, nor is man anything apart from woman in the Lord. 12 For just as the woman is from the man, thus also the man is through the woman. But all things are from God. 13 You judge for yourselves: is it fitting for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 And does not nature itself teach you that a man, if he wears long hair, it is a dishonor to him? 15 But a woman, if she wears long hair, it is her glory, because her hair is given for a covering. 16 But if anyone is disposed to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. 1 Cor 11:10-16 What custom? The custom of the Jews in 1 Cor 11:3-10 Yes, yes I know. Is that the reason the organization is an NGO a member in other countries?

I had to read this twice, since I kept seeing "identified with the UN". Which in their various ways, they certainly have. It was another stumbling block for me, to find out about their NGO membership in the '90's. Although this topic has been hashed and rehashed here, it's not something many who see the WT's hypocrisy, can easily drop. Wikipedia: In February 1992, Jehovah's Witnesses' New York corporation, the Watchtower Society, was granted association as a non-governmental organisation (NGO) of the United Nations Department of Public Information (UN/DPI). The Watchtower Society requested termination of the association in October 2001, and the DPI disassociated the NGO on 9 October[12] after the matter was reported in The Guardian.[13][14] A UN/DPI letter dated March 4, 2004, states, "The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies."[15] The letter explained that " by accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities."[15] The official site further notes that association with the UN/DPI "does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."[16] Jehovah's Witnesses have appealed to the United Nations Human Rights Committee about sanctions against their members' activities. Between April 2013 and early April 2016, Jehovah's Witnesses submitted 48 appeals to the United Nations Human Rights Committee, complaining that punishments for sharing faith violate the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.[17] I think it’s very possible, that the WT does not believe the UN is the Beast of Revelation 13:1,2. Why utilize the power of the "Beast" to save their organization, when God's power is almighty? “Woe to the rebellious children,” says the Lord,“Who take counsel, but not of Me,And who devise plans, but not of My Spirit,That they may add sin to sin;2 Who walk to go down to Egypt,And have not asked My advice,To strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh,And to trust in the shadow of Egypt! Isa 30:1,2 Rom 16:1,2 - I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church in Cenchrea, that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also. "servant", from the Greek word, διάκονος diákonos, dee-ak'-on-os; probably from an obsolete διάκω diákō (to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):—deacon, minister, servant.

Can you point that out in the Bible for me? So, all JWs are members of the anointed Body of Christ? Can the Body function if the members are separated from each other? "that there should be no division in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it." 1 Cor 12:25,26 Just because one of the GB members has a son that is anointed, doesn't mean the son shouldn't join with other "bodily" members.

The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. WT 17/2 p. 26,27 “I am the vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in me and I in him—this one bears much fruit, for apart from me you are not able to do anything. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and dries up, and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this: that you bear much fruit, and prove to be my disciples.” John 15:5-8 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear, and will produce great signs and wonders in order to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matt 24:24 “And by his planning he will make a success of deceit by his hand, and in his mind he will boast, and in their ease he will destroy many, and even against the prince of princes (Isa 9:6) he will rise up, and he will be broken, but not by human hands.” Dan 8:25 “Now we ask you, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to him, 2 that you not be easily shaken from your composure, nor be troubled either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter alleged to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has arrived. (1914) 3 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thess 2:1-4

From what I remember, your statement was, "Please provide some evidence that Christ was enthroned in the 1st century." I gave you many scriptures to prove that he was. If you’re asking for evidence that Christ is viewed as King in Revelation, let me first give more evidence of kingship even while one earth: Pilate therefore said to Him, “Are You a king then?” Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.” Luke 18:37 A king “conquers”: "Now is the judgment of this world. Now the ruler of this world will be cast out. "and about judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. "I have told you these things so that in me you may have peace. You will have suffering in this world. Be courageous! I have conquered the world." John 12:31; 16:11,33 Just as Jesus conquered Satan and his accusations against him, while on earth, every anointed one must also conquer him. John 14:30 "I will not talk with you much longer, because the ruler of the world is coming. He has no power over me.” “I have written to you, children, because you have come to know the Father. I have written to you, fathers, because you have come to know the one who is from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, God's word remains in you, and you have conquered the evil one.” 1 John 2:14 Conquering Satan is conquering death. That is only possible by turning to Christ in full obedience. We receive life through Christ’s atoning sacrifice, only if we obey his teachings. John 14:21 “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?” 56 For sin is the sting that results in death, and the law gives sin its power. 57 But thank God! He gives us victory over sin and death through our Lord Jesus Christ.” 1 Cor 15:55-57 This is during the “thousand year kingdom” that began in the first century: He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love” Col 1:13 Revelation: “John, to the seven churches in Asia: grace to you and peace from the one who is and the one who was and the one who is coming, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To the one who loves us and released us from our sins by his blood 6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—to him be the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen.” Rev 1:4-6 To be ruler over the “kings of the earth” – HIS faithful kings - He also must be a ruling King: And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and the one seated on it was called “Faithful” and “True,” and with justicehe judges and makes war. And out of his mouth came a sharp sword, so that with it he could strike the nations. And he will shepherd them with an iron rod, and he stomps the winepress of the wine of the furious wrath of God, the All-Powerful. 16 And he has a name written on his outer garment and on his thigh: “King of kings and Lord of lords.” Rev 19:11,15,16 “ And I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and of the living creatures and of the elders, and their number was ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands times thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice, “Worthy is the Lamb who was slaughtered to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” 13 And I heard every creature that is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and in the sea and everything in them saying, “To the one who is seated on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever.” 14 And the four living creatures were saying, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped. Rev 5:11-14 Christ's “thousand year” kingdom is to bring to nothing, Satan’s world. This culminates when death is destroyed in Armageddon. (1 Cor 15:24-26; Rev 20:10) For 2,000 years, he has been building the tried and cleansed “administration” of priests/kings/Bride who will serve God and Christ, reign and teach in Gods Kingdom. Eph 1:9-11 As I said, Satan was “abyssed” in the first century. The abyss is not a “place of inactivity” as the WT claims , but a point of altered perception, the state of “not perceiving”. Hades, Tartarus, hell, abyss all refer to a state of “not perceiving”. A place of darkness. (Jer 13:16; Rom 10:7; 2; 2 Pet 2:4;Jude 1:6; Col 1:13) Hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see/perceive/know") = not knowing/not understanding/not perceiving. When Satan is released from the abyss, his focus becomes clearly bent on destroying the “remaining ones of the woman’s seed.” Rev 12:4 He formulates “Gog and Magog”, the Beasts of Revelation. (2 Thess 2:3,4; 9-12; Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12; 20:7-10) Jesus, who conquered death, has a key to the abyss, (Rev 1:18) as does Satan, who is “King” of the abyss. Rev 9:11 To utilize it, Satan must have willing subjects who submit to his offers. Luke 4:7 This is how the two Beasts of Revelation develop, through the “key” given a “fallen star” – fallen anointed whom he manipulates to carry out his plan against the anointed of God. (Dan 12:3; Phil 2:15; Jude 1:11-13; Rev 9:1-3; 8:10,11; Heb 12:15; Rev 13:1,2) My label as an “apostate” by the organization, does not apply to “apostate” that scriptures refer to. I have not rejected God, Christ, or truth in the scriptures. I have rejected the organization and its falsehoods. Is 1975…TRUTH? How about the “generation” teaching, which one of those over the years, is truth? What about the teaching of a bloody slaughter during Armageddon committed by God and Christ, when you don't believe in hellfire. This is a hypocritical teaching. "Because they have forsaken me, and they have defaced this place, and they have made smoke offerings in it to other gods whom they have not known, they, nor their ancestors, nor the kings of Judah, and they have filled up this place with the blood of the innocent, 5 and they have built the high places of Baal, to burn their children in the fire, burnt offerings to Baal, which I commanded not, and I ordered not, and it did not come to my mind." Jer 19:4-5 "And they built the high places of Baal that are in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to present as offerings their sons and their daughters to Molech, which I had not commanded them, and it had not come to my mind to do this detestable thing in order to cause Judah to sin.” Jer 32:35 So...why do JWs look forward to WT's version of Armageddon? I know of a faithful anointed, who would never use the label of “faithful and discreet slave” to pull anyone in, because that one knows Christ decides who is faithful to him or not. Matt 25:21 This one relies on Christ and Holy Spirit to dispense truth, not on “helpers”, writers, committees, buildings, money, but solely on the Father and Christ. Zech 4:2-6,11-14; Rev 111-3 I believe I am, but I will never again dispense so-called “truth” in harmony with a wicked slave. Been there, done that. I don’t look for followers. I look to expose lies and reveal truth about the conditions of God’s people today, and about the Christ. The “good news” at the end of the days is the “restoration of Jacob”. Matt 17:3,11; Luke 1:16,17; Mal 4:6; Isa 49:6,8,9,12 All of us, should question what doctrines are taught in the organization. Our lives depend on obeying scripture. Should we ever conform to lies?

I did, with plenty of scripture. I’m surprised that not even Ps 110:2 clicked. Maybe you should go back and read them? But, here’s another one: “And also, corresponding to this, baptism now saves you, not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, with angels and authorities and powers having been subjected to him.” 1 Pet 3:21,22 What power did Jesus say he possessed when on the earth? “Jesus came near and said to them, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.” What did he tell his apostles? "Look, I have given you the authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy; nothing at all will harm you.” Luke 10:19 This gives evidence that Jesus began his kingdom rule even when on the earth, starting with this given authority that produced results, when sharing it with his apostles. Why did he take those actions? To set the groundwork for the Kingdom to come, which required a complete Temple of “living stones” built on his body, to be proven worthy to rule with him in God’s Kingdom. (John 2:20-22; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10) A ruler is not given authority and power over others who are in subjection to him, without utilizing that authority and power, which we see that Jesus did utilize his authority. And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, because the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, the one who accuses them before our God day and night. Who is being continually accused by Satan? Each individual anointed one, a "brother" of Christ, beginning with those in the first century, who is tested just as Jesus was through slander against them, and deceit to mislead them. (Luke 22:31; John 16:20,22,33; Eph 6:12) Read further – Rev 12:11 – “And they conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives until death.” Each anointed must “conquer” Satan by their testimony to truth. This is what the battle is about – conquering Satan’s lies with Christ’s truth. During the last days, the remaining remnant of anointed ones have the most difficult deception inspired by Satan, placed before them. 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:1,2,11,12,14-17; 12:17; 9:5,9; 6:9-11 To believe that there is a literal 1000 years after Armageddon and that Satan is let loose then to cause destruction and death, would be charging Jesus Christ as having “no hurry to cleanse the Earth of the haters of God”. As if during his time in heaven since his resurrection he was completely ineffective even through Armageddon, of putting enemies under his feet. “But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” 1 Cor 15:23-27a” Death is destroyed in the end - at the end of Armageddon. Death is not resurrected a thousand literal years after Armageddon. Since Jesus began ruling in the first century, his symbolic reign of a “thousand years” also began. We have obvious scriptures that tell us that a thousand years can be symbolic. (Ps 90:4; 2 Pet 3:8) And since the symbolic book of Revelation uses it (Rev 20:2,3,7), we should see that it can’t be a literal time period. As I believe I’ve pointed out here in the past, the scripture’s use of a “1,000” can mean a reached fullness, perfection. Researching the frequent use of a “1,000” in scriptures supports this. And the seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!” 18 So he said to them, “I saw Satan falling like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I have given you the authority to tread on snakes and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will ever harm you. 20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are inscribed in heaven.” Luke 10:17-20 This gives evidence that Satan was “abyssed” or restricted in using his full powers against the anointed until the last days, when he is “let loose”…to DECEIVE THE SAINTS. Your organization teaches you a confused rendition of the identities of Gog and Magog of Revelation 20:7,8. Simply, they are the two Beasts of Revelation. (Rev 13) Your leaders tell you Gog and Magog appear during Armageddon, and even after Armageddon. I don’t see anything in God’s Word that supports two Gogs and two Magogs, one pair to appear now and one later. This confusion is because of their teaching of a thousand years to come after Armageddon, and all is based on the falsehood of 1914, where Jesus is found to be languishing in heaven until 1914. Rev 20:9,10 states that the “saints”/anointed are surrounded by “Gog and Magog” at the end of the symbolic thousand years to be deceived by the devil, the beast and the false prophet. (Rev 16:13,14; Rev 13:1,2,11,12) If this was to occur when the saints are ruling with Christ on the other side of Armageddon, they can’t be surrounded if they have received a “kingdom”. They will have conquered Satan and his lies well before then. They will have been found victorious over the Beast/organization. Rev 15:2 So, where are the anointed today? What “surrounds” them? The walls of the organization and the false teachings of 1914, a “thousand years” to come, the need for an earthly organization, and many more lies that they must individually conquer, even if it means being “killed” for rejecting them, and giving testimony to Christ’s truth. Matt 16:25; Rev 13:15; 11:3,7 The signs are spiritual, not physical although Satan will lead you to believe they all take place in the realm of the physical earth and the world; and he can make it physically happen. Job 1:16-19 The “kings”/”nations” that are at war are Jesus’ “kings of the earth”; the faithful against the unfaithful. Rev 1:5; 5:9,10; 16:14; 17:1,2 “food shortages”, the result of an “evil steward” ruling of the House of God, cutting off all supply of spiritual provisions that the entire household of anointed priests should contribute to. Luke 16:1,2; Amos 8:11; 2 Chron 15:3; Rev 2:9. “earthquakes”, Heb 12:26; Isa 13:13; Luke 23:30; Isa 2:19,21; Hos 10:8 If you read through Matt 24, who are warned not to be deceived in the last days, and by whom? This is why the truth is hidden to many. As you wrote the Lord said to himself.................. Within the last say, 4-5 years, I and other anointed ones have learned that “Jehovah” is not appropriate to use when referring to God. A declaration of YHWH/YHVH to my lord, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.” 2 YHWH will send out your mighty scepter from Zion; rule in the midst of your enemies. Ps 110:1,2 Although, if you notice that Jesus never did refer to God as “Jehovah”; nor YHWH, but always, “Father”. The WT has taken bold liberty to insert “Jehovah” into its NWT of the Greek scriptures. But, look at Matt 22:41-46, read from Watchtower’s Kingdom Interlinear: “Having been lead together but of the Pharisees inquired upon them the Jesus saying What to you does it seem about the Christ? Who’s son is he? They are saying to him Of the David He is saying to them How therefore David in spirit is calling him Lord saying Said Lord to the lord of me Be sitting out of right-hand [parts] of me until likely I should put the enemies of you beneath the feet of you? If David is calling him Lord how Son of him is he?” Your NWT rejected their own Interlinear rendering and inserted “Jehovah”, and I believe you will not find an Interlinear using “Jehovah” in these scriptures. Again: Ps 110:2 - The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Do you see it? God is telling Christ when he sat down at His right hand, to RULE! "RULE" - רָדָה râdâh, raw-daw'; a primitive root; to tread down, i.e. subjugate; specifically, to crumble off:—(come to, make to) have dominion, prevail against, reign, (bear, make to) rule,(-r, over), take. "REIGN IN THE MIDST OF YOUR ENEMIES"! Pearl Doxsey, "The Sign of the End" 4womaninthewilderness

The “war” began in Genesis: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.” Gen 3:15 Jesus has been ruling since the first century. To say he hasn’t, reflects a greater perceived power to be attributed to Satan, than to Christ. And who would mislead us with the lie that Jesus’ power was inert until 1914, if not Satan and his ministers? 2 Cor 11:12-15 Who can manipulate the world’s actions to create a counterfeit fulfillment of scripture, misleading God’s people in this war of truth against lies? Satan is the master of deceit! 1 John 5:19; Matt 24:24; Luke 21:8; 2 Cor 11:3,4; Col 2:8; 2 Thess 2:3,9; Rev 16:13,14 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” Matt 28:18 “So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.” Mar 16:19 The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Ps 110:1,2 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 1 Cor 15:25 Fabrication. Zion includes the “144,000”. “The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!” Ps 110:2 “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels” Heb 12:22 “For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.” Phil 3:20,21 “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” Eph 6:10-17 “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ” 2 Cor 10:3-5 “by the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left” 2 Cor 6:7 “The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.” Rom 13:12 These early priests of God were standing with Christ in this war, during their physical life time and in Spirit once they died. Each faithful anointed in Christ since, has fought the same war during their fleshly time on the earth and once in heaven. “If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us.” 2 Tim 2:12

I am sorry if I confused you with my flippant response to Srecko. Of course, you are right. I had in mind WT's teachings on what the "unrighteous riches" entails.

Thanks for this, Shiwiii. I looked up Rev 7:14,15 myself in WT's Interlinear and then went to Strong's 3485 for the meaning of the word, "ναῷ": naós (from naiō, "to dwell") – properly, a sanctuary (divine dwelling-place); a temple (sacred abode), the place of divine manifestation. 3485 (naós) refers to the sanctuary (the Jewish Temple proper), i.e. with just its two inner compartments (rooms). It proves not only that the anointed are the "dwelling"/"divine habitation" of God's Spirit, (1 Cor 3:16,17), the "temple"/"divine habitation" of 2 Cor 6:16, and the mobile "tabernacle"/"sanctuary"/"tent, booth, dwelling" of God's Spirit, that is blasphemed by the Beast/organization in Rev 13:6,7. (STRONGS NT 4633: σκηνή)