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On your website: 3487 hits for “Jehovah’s organization” in the same paragraph 21 results for “spirit-directed organization” 312 results for “Jehovah’s earthly organization” 84 results for “loyalty to Jehovah’s organization 12 results for “mountainlike organization” I didn’t pursue “dedication to Jehovah’s organization”, “obey Jehovah’s organization”, or all the various combinations of the words. What are they adding up to? idolatry Can any of you tell me where God’s word condones loyalty, worship, dedication, obedience to ANYTHING, whether a philosophy or a physical entity, other than the Father and His word in His Son? The apostles set a foundation of a “building” being built on truth – Jesus Christ. Did they tell lies? Did they make false predictions? Or, did they warn against making false predictions? 2 Thess 2:1,2 Do God’s words given to Moses, not have any validity anymore? Deut. 18:20-22 Since we have proof that your organization has told lies, did God who spoke those words in Deut. 18 to Moses, build your organization, or did men? Why would God bless an organization that contradicts the words of truth, established within the foundation of His spiritual Temple? (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22) ANYONE, who puts down the Harlot’s wine, rejecting your leadership’s teachings, sobers up to the hypocrisy that flourishes in the Wt. (Rev 17:1,2; [Rev 1:5]; Rev 13:17;16:13; 1 Tim 4:1) Some who truly desire to know the Truth presented by Jesus Christ, reject your organization once they realize it is built on falsehoods. This is why people who have left, will not quit speaking against the Wt, until Jesus returns to destroy it with the breath of his mouth – to condemn it using the Word of God. (2 Thess 2: 9,10,8; Jer 23:29; Rev 12:7-9) And…this is why anointed who have been “killed” by the wicked slave, will not quit speaking their testimony of Christ. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:15; 11:1-4,7; 12:11) The only way they can hope to retrieve any of you and their loved ones, or the anointed under your rule @xero - as you are, or were, part of the man of lawlessness/elder body sitting in the Temple of God - is to sound the trumpet to get out of the “beloved organization”. (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 14:6-12; Rev 18:4-8) The anointed are trampled down in that corrupt haven – a “god of fortresses” or “forces”. Elders are to be viewed as a shelter, and sources of strength and protection in times of need, the definitions of “forces”. The organization is your stronghold and place of refuge against the world. If that is not an idol, tell me what is. Dan 11:38 “Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done.” Dan 11:36 You have already done this, by slandering the anointed “gods” (spirit sons of God) in comments made here on this forum. You, as a fake "priest" have exalted the organization over God’s Temple/Zion (Ezek 44:6-9) You do realize that most likely anointed could come through here to read. I hope by your comments, they see the connection of the man of lawlessness/elder body/organization ruling and blaspheming the sanctuary/Temple of God. 1 Cor 3:16, 17; Rev 13:5-7. Any rival against God and what He builds, does not last. (Rev 13:4; 8:8; Zech 4:7) Any idol worshiped by God’s people, never brought salvation to them. Their fall into idolatry only gained them affliction, famine, pestilence and destruction. (Rev 18:8; 19:20) Zech 7:3-6 - Then the word of the Lord Almighty came to me: 5 “Ask all the people of the land and the priests (1 Pet 2:5,9), ‘When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months for the past seventy years, was it really for me that you fasted? 6 And when you were eating and drinking, were you not just feasting for yourselves? Exod 20: 3-6 – You shall have no other gods before Me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. “ The organization mimics other organizations built “in the earth beneath”. It is served, and bowed down to, by dedication at baptism. (2 Cor 11:4,20; Rev 13:4,16) “For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.” Can any of you truly say you love God, while condoning the trampling down of the members of the body of His Son? Hypocrisy, which is shown by the exaltation of the elder body over the anointed ones of God's Temple/dwelling in spirit. Mark 13:14 He's not jealous for the “mountainlike organization” that men have built, but only for Mountain that He built on the anointed body of Christ. (John 2:19-21) The organization has no part in building Mount Zion, as its demonic purpose is to destroy it by seducing God’s anointed “living stones” to worship an idol. (Rev 12:1-4,15) Only by the spirit of God in His Son, will it reach completion outside of the organization. (Rev 16:12; Zech 4:7,13,14) 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “I am very jealous for Zion; I am burning with jealousy for her.” This is what the Lord says: “I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem. Then Jerusalem will be called the Faithful City, and the mountain of the Lord Almighty will be called the Holy Mountain.” Zech 8:2 Rev 21:10 People will make their choice, as you have, to either love the organization, or choose to love and give total devotion to God and Christ and his Truth. You can’t love both, and expect to please God. Matt 6:24; Joel 3:14 Look how you fall for propaganda! lol I once did fall for propaganda, that the organization belonged to God. As can be seen by xero's comment, forgetting about God's Word is easy to do, when putting the organization and men's doctrine on a pedestal. Who is the "idiot" (said by xero), the one who chooses to serve the Father and the Son in "spirit and truth", (John 4:23,24) or the one who serves an organization, the work of man's hands, and an idol of "men's devising"? Acts 17:24,25,29

Light within this thread? In the organization? There is no light in hypocrisy. The man is getting slandered for working at his age, and not setting a better “example” for young ones, by devoting his physical time to the “preaching work”. No one knows what riches he has contributed, which according to the Wt article I sited, is just as, or more precious to “Jehovah” than preaching. I am not sucking out any “light”, but shining a light on Wt’s hypocrisy. Job 15:34; Matt 23:25 Your leaders spend money to build, build, build while holding out their hand to all of you, in order to keep building. They have changed their plea for money many times over… “there is more money going out than going in” It was a need made known during a talk of Stephen Lett’s, that thousands of kingdom halls needed to be built, and money was in short supply. That all changed. Kingdom halls were being sold off, and the idea of Ramapo took over. Once again, is more money going out, than going in? Is there a plea for donations? Certainly, and the same man asking for donations, also said, “Jehovah’s organization” will never solicit for funds. I am sure you know what “solicit” means. Stephen Lett - “In view of the large scope of this project we encourage you to make it a matter of prayer and please, support it according to your circumstances”. Was he soliciting for money? Which person is more important to the organization, those that are rich and give ample amounts of money to fuel the leaders’ constant earthly lusts, or those who write simple “preaching” letters to addresses, while sitting at their kitchen table? Anthony Morris - “Now, the fact is we never beg for money, but that’s not to say we can’t talk about money in Jehovah’s organization, the earthly part”. “Money has to be discussed in the last day, this system, meets a response in all things.” It looks like Lett and Morris need to compare notes on the meaning of begging and soliciting. This, written by your organization: “God does not approve of mixing religion with business. The Bible shows that in the past, he was very displeased with priests who claimed to represent him while instructing “for a price.” (Micah 3:11) God condemned the greedy commercial practices that had turned his place of worship into “a cave of robbers.”—Jeremiah 7:11”Is Religion Just Another Big Business? The Watchtower Corporation is laden with stock holdings and investments. The money they receive, have, spend, and invest, is of primary interest to its governors (Matt.6:21). That activity is called "business". The NMB version of the Bible states; "No man who wars, entangles himself with worldly business, because he wants to please him who has chosen him to be a soldier." (2Tim.2:4). So, instead of scrutinizing one man among all of you, you should be weighing in on the activity of "business" that your governing leaders are immersed in.

So the man makes a lot of money, which he most likely donates buckets full to the organization. Since the Wt. defines “make friends with unrighteous riches” very literally, this man is probably a better “friend” to the organization and the GB, than are most JWs. “Make friends for yourselves by means of the unrighteous riches, so that when such fail, they [Jehovah and Jesus] may receive you into the everlasting dwelling places.” Yes, such riches will ultimately fail, so do not lose the opportunity to use them to “make friends” in heaven. Whatever we do to advance the interests of Jehovah’s Kingdom makes us spiritually rich. w 17/7 p. 11 Wow. He may not be setting the type of example in the “preaching work” as some believe, but according to your leaders, if he is using his riches to support “kingdom interests”, he may be more spiritually rich than the most dedicated pioneer. Wasteful Steward

Apparently you haven't met JWs who are barely scraping by because they don't have pensions - house cleaners, window washers, doing handyman work, childcare; which also goes for a good amount of people within the population. I knew of a woman who never had a career, only that of special pioneering when younger. After that, she became a house cleaner and not with a company, which means no chance of receiving a pension. She was much older than I, and I wondered and even fretted over how she would survive in her old age, since any family was gone. I have seen teachers barely survive on pensions that only covered necessities and bills to remain in a house. I doubt these people have pensions...

Yes it can. For the good or the bad. In other words you may be saying, JWs are standing quietly as pillars of the organization; which claims it IS truth. No, the witness being given is that the organization and its false prophets are the way to salvation – and not Jesus Christ, nor the Temple of “living stones” built on his body. (John 2:19-21; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22) The cart holds the philosophy of men’s doctrine, which leads to spiritual captivity, and the receiving of a “mark” of dedication to an idol. Col 2:8; Rev 13:10; 13:1,2,4,8,16,17 “Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.” I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” Gal 2 Something I recently realized, is that the dichotomy to the Book of the Law that God assigned Moses to set next to the ark of the covenant, is the “Shepherd the Flock of God” book…the Book of the Law of the Watchtower. Does righteousness come through the ‘Shepherding’ book? (Deut 31:26)

We all have our opinions, don't we. The person who wrote down her thoughts was using introspection to help her comprehend the God, "He causes to become" God is Spirit, and Spirit is breathed onto and into, whatever God chooses. Ps 139:7;John 4:24; John 20:22 “Am I a God who is near,” declares the Lord, “And not a God far off? “Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?” declares the Lord. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the Lord. Jer 23:23,24

You mean, like cart witnessing; where you stand still, read the cell phone, and do not respond in depth to any asking serious thought-provoking questions from anybody, but direct them to the endless depth of misunderstanding at jw org? You gotta agree, that's a pretty easy hobby. 🙂 "Let your faithful love come to me, Lord, your salvation, as you promised. 42 Then I can answer the one who taunts me, for I trust in your word. 43 Never take the word of truth from my mouth, for I hope in your judgments. 44 I will always obey your instruction, forever and ever. 45 I will walk freely in an open place because I study your precepts. 46 I will speak of your decrees before kings and not be ashamed. - (you know, those "kings" who live at 1 Kings Drive in Tuxedo, New York?) 47 I delight in your commands, which I love. 48 I will lift up my hands to your commands, which I love, and will meditate on your statutes. Remember your word to your servant; you have given me hope through it. 50 This is my comfort in my affliction: Your promise has given me life. 51 The arrogant constantly ridicule me, but I do not turn away from your instruction. 52 Lord, I remember your judgments from long ago and find comfort. 53 Fury seizes me because of the wicked who reject your instruction. 54 Your statutes are the theme of my song during my earthly life. Lord, I remember your name in the night, and I obey your instruction. 56 This is my practice: I obey your precepts." Ps 119

I'm sharing a quote from someone I have not been acquainted with. She may or may not have been a JW. There was a moment when Moses had the nerve to ask God what his name is. God was gracious enough to answer, and the name he gave is recorded in the original Hebrew as YHWH. Over time we’ve arbitrarily added an “a” and an “e” in there to get YaHWeH, presumably because we have a preference for vowels. But scholars and Rabi’s have noted that the letters YHWH represent breathing sounds, or aspirated consonants. When pronounced without intervening vowels, it actually sounds like breathing. YH (inhale): WH (exhale). So a baby’s first cry, his first breath, speaks the name of God. A deep sigh calls His name – or a groan or gasp that is too heavy for mere words. Even an atheist would speak His name, unaware that their very breath is giving constant acknowledgment to God. Likewise, a person leaves this earth with their last breath, when God’s name is no longer filing their lungs. So when I can’t utter anything else, is my cry calling out His name? Being alive means I speak His name constantly. So, is it heard the loudest when I’m the quietest? In sadness, we breathe heavy sighs. In joy, our lungs feel almost like they will burst. In fear we hold our breath and have to be told to breathe slowly to help us calm down. When we’re about to do something hard, we take a deep breath to find our courage. When I think about it, breathing is giving him praise. Even in the hardest moments! This is so beautiful and fills me with emotion every time I grasp the thought. God chose to give himself a name that we can’t help but speak every moment we’re alive. All of us, always, everywhere. Waking, sleeping, breathing, with the name of God on our lips. written by - Sandra Thurman Caporale "So a baby’s first cry, his first breath, speaks the name of God." But then, we have the wisdom from the lips of your highly admired Governing Body member, Stephen Lett, who stated at the recent convention, that babies are born as enemies of God. He said, “You hear people say of a little baby, ‘look at that little angel’, but more accurate would be to say, ‘look at that little enemy of God’”. God was incensed at the sacrificing of children in the fire by worshippers of Baal. To His people, He said, “Say, ‘Hear the word of the Lord, kings of Judah and residents of Jerusalem. This is what the Lord of Armies, the God of Israel, says: I am going to bring such a disaster on this place that everyone who hears about it will shudder 4 “because they have abandoned me and made this a foreign place. They have burned incense in it to other gods that they, their ancestors, and the kings of Judah have never known. They have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5 They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, something I have never commanded or mentioned; I never entertained the thought.” Jer 19 God’s word is “like fire”, (Jer 23:29) Satan’s word, the lying doctrine of men, is also like fire. It can consume and crush the word of God in our hearts and minds. (Luke 8:11-14; Rev 13:11,13; Matt 24:24,25) Think, JWs; you, who believe that every living being outside of your “foreign place” is an enemy of God…tell me, who is the primary enemy of God? It is Satan, who treats all people, all life, as his enemies, since he wants to destroy...just as you do; and just as easily as Stephen Lett made the declaration that all babies are enemies of God. If this man was truly an ambassador of Christ, never would such a statement come out of his mouth. We have the account of Jesus interacting with men, women and children. After reading his words, did any of you come away with the thought that Jesus viewed babies as his enemies? Matt 19:14 - Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” On this forum are JWs who love to target exjws as ready for their burning hell; and supposedly you don’t even believe in a burning hell. They represent millions of JWs with the same belief. You live in an organization that destroys families through disfellowshipping, destroys any possible love through that very act, that neglects the plea of a victim of abuse, yet supports the abuser; and you and your leaders revel in the promise of an Armageddon of bloodshed. Aside from the fact that you believe lies spoken by your leadership, are not really lies! What’s next? Baby baptism to save those little enemies from destruction in Armageddon? Babies, born of your own people? Babies, that must be indoctrinated and “sacrificed” to a god, the organization, and a “foreign place” never to have appeared in the history of God’s people until now? “Je hovah”, a god of ruin and destruction. YHVH/YHWH – “He causes to become” If your leaders revered the God of life, and His Son who is life, they would never have resorted to the “custom” of the nations by adopting the name, “Jehovah” to represent the true, Almighty Father and Giver of live. Daniel chapter 11 speaks of the Beast that tramples God’s holy saints (Rev 13:5-7) – taking away their “daily sacrifice” and replacing them with sacrifices uttered from the mouths of false priests/ELDERS. Sacrifices of praise given to a god of fortresses; your Watchtower organization. (Dan 11:31;8:11; Matt 24:15,16) You are residing in the Wild Beast from the Sea – the “man of lawlessness” that “sits in the temple of God” where it doesn’t belong. (Rev 13:1,2,5-7,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; Mark 13:14) “Then the king will do as he pleases and will exalt and magnify himself above every god, and he will speak monstrous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been decreed must be accomplished.” Dan 11:36 (“gods” – the sons of God, the anointed priests. (s 82:6; John 10:34-36; Gal 3:26; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) “And in their place” (in the place of the Temple/dwelling of God’s spirit, made of “living stones") “he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches.” Dan 11:38 Your donations toward the organization in the form of money, gold, silver, real estate… anything and everything is accepted and expected from each of you, to support the god of fortresses. 29 “Is not my word like fire”—this is the Lord’s declaration—“and like a hammer that pulverizes rock? 30 Therefore, take note! I am against the prophets”—the Lord’s declaration—“who steal my words from each other. 31 I am against the prophets”—the Lord’s declaration—“who use their own tongues to make a declaration. 32 I am against those who prophesy false dreams”—the Lord’s declaration—“telling them and leading my people astray with their reckless lies. It was not I who sent or commanded them, and they are of no benefit at all to these people”—this is the Lord’s declaration.” Jer 23 Through your doctrines of men, you are abandoning the God of life, and have adopted the god of destruction. I’m telling all of you, get out of there, before it’s too late. Rev 18:4-8

I put this here for those who have eyes that see. Ezek 38:19 - "In My zeal and in My blazing wrath I declare on that day there will certainly be a great earthquake in the land of Israel." "On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west forming a very large valley. Half of the mountain will move toward the north, and the other half toward the south." Zech 14:4,5 "And you will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, all the holy ones with Him!" Zech 14:5 "Crowds, great crowds are in the Valley of Decision, for the day of the Lord is near in the Valley of Decision!" Joel 3:14 “Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are on the sinful kingdom, And I will destroy it from the face of the earth; Nevertheless, I will not totally destroy the house of Jacob,” Declares the LORD. 9“For behold, I am commanding, And I will shake (earthquake) the house of Israel among all nations As grain is shaken in a sieve, But not a kernel will fall to the ground. 10“All the sinners of My people will die by the sword, Those who say, ‘The calamity will not overtake or confront us.’ Amos 9 "Israel" where the anointed are living in "peace and security". (Ezek 38:11,12; 1 Thess 5:3) What is the topic of your convention these days? "You will advance against My people Israel like a cloud covering the earth. In future days I will bring you against my land so that the nations may acknowledge me, when before their eyes I magnify myself through you, O Gog." Ezek 38:16 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of the virgins were foolish, and five were wise. " Matt 25:1,2 "Then his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “I will once more shake not only the earth but heaven too.” 27 Now this phrase “once more” indicates the removal of what is shaken, that is, of created things, so that what is unshaken may remain." Heb 12:26,27 This is the harvest of the sons of the Kingdom. Matt 3:12; 13:29,30 It is God's "Israel" that is the subject of Armageddon. God's people are worshipping a "spirit-directed" organization - the "image of the Beast", which requires dedication and loyalty. Rev 13:4,14-16 This Beast has trampled them - an elder body that comprises the organization has stifled their enemy - "Israel". (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2,5-7) If an anointed of "Israel" realizes that serving two masters will cause that person to "hate the one and love the other, and chooses instead to serve only one Master, the Father with His Son, this Beast spiritually "kills" them through disfellowshipping - for rejecting the "spirit-directed organization". Rev 13:15 Jesus sides only with those who realize there is no organization, no idol, 'who is like God'. Rev 12:7,8 Ezek 39:21-24 - "I will display my majesty among the nations. All the nations will witness the judgment I have executed and the power I have exhibited among them. 22 Then the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God, from that day forward. 23 The nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile due to their iniquity, for they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies; all of them died by the sword." "And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains." Matt 24:4-8 These signs have a symbolic meaning explaining the war between anointed "kings", of truth against lies in the valley of decision. What was said by the prophets, are trumpeted again in the last days. Rev 10:7 The Spiritual Sign of the End

Rev 13:4 - They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against it?” So the beast opened his mouth to blaspheme against God—to blaspheme both His name and his dwelling place, that is, those who dwell in heaven. (dwelling place - 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) 7 The beast was permitted to go to war against the saints and conquer them. W 02/8/1 - “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!” Revelation continued: He was given ruling authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation W 12/2/1 pp. 8,9 - “With God’s backing, millions from all nations, tribes, and tongues are gathering together to form a harmonious, loving brotherhood. 8 and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was killed. 9 If anyone has an ear, he had better listen! Rev 13:6-9

Yes, I know you both have made your choice to worship a god of ruin, disaster, and destruction, instead of a God who’s name means the complete opposite of the destruction that you want to assign to Him and His Son - “HE WILL CAUSE TO BECOME” Even though you can find this meaning on your website, your true desire is to see your god, “Jehovah”, perform the opposite of what His name means…TO DESTROY. It is proven by the information you have given me.

So, are you trying to prove that "Jehovah" is a god of destruction? And that you are proud of it? You don’t realize it, but you did just proved that “Jehovah” is the god of disaster and ruin which I have been saying all along. THIS, is the authentic tetragrammaton: יהוה When looking up “Jehovah”, this meaning comes up: יְהֹוָה Yᵉhôvâh, yeh-ho-vaw'; from H1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jeho-vah, Jewish national name of God:—Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069. Look further. יהוה The authentic tetragrammaton יְהֹוָה – The fake, from the hybrid name, “Jehovah” Do you see the difference what that name has done to the tetragrammaton? From your comment: Strongs: H1942 (הַוָּה), H1943 (הֹוָה), H1962 (הַיָּה) These letters are not similar to what are in the authentic tetragrammaton, but they are similar to “Jehovah”. H1942 - a covering, i.e. (figuratively) pretext:—cloke. H1943 - הֹוָה hôvâh, ho-vaw'; another form for H1942; ruin:—mischief. H1962 - הַיָּה hayâh, hah-yaw'; another form for H1943; ruin:—calamity. Using the authentic tetragrammaton, Another tradition regards the name as coming from three different verb forms sharing the same root YWH, the words HYH haya (היה): “He was”; HWH howê (הוה):“He is”; and YHYH yihiyê (יהיה):“He will be”. This would therefore show that God is timeless and self-existent. Other interpretations include the name as meaning “I am the One Who Is.” This can be seen in the O. T. biblical account of the “burning bush” commanding Moses to tell the sons of Israel that “I AM (אהיה) has sent you,” (Exodus 3:13–14). Some suggest, “I AM the One I AM” [אהיה אשר אהיה]. This may also fit the interpretation as “He Causes to Become.” https://www.theopedia.com/yahweh Your god is suitable to Watchtower's practices of telling lies under the cloak of godliness; and your doctrine of an Armageddon that brings a bloody death and ruin to the world of mankind. But it isn't the true Almighty God that I choose to worship.

And what do you see in that scripture? That Jesus is contradicting himself by saying he both slaughters ("slay") and destroys? Who was behind the slaughtering of the Lamb of God? The Pharisees, an evil generation whose father is the liar. "He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. " John 8:44 Who sacrificed his life in order to bring people eternal life to those who believe in him? And now, you ALL are calling Jesus the murderer. JWs lead people into the organization with the truth that there is no literal, fiery, eternal burning in hell. Instead, they have created a replacement, a literal bloody slaughter on men, women and children in Armageddon by Jesus. They have glorified it, in pictures. Jesus showed his love for people while on the earth, by teaching them that love be practiced by all; not destruction. He wept over the coming destruction of Jerusalem. But all of you, have taken that love and twisted it, by putting Satan’s lust for destruction, onto Jesus. In your Armageddon of blood, what will Satan be doing while Jesus is slaughtering? Sitting back and watching Jesus do the dirty work? 1 Pet 5:8 - Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. (“devour” – drink down, swallow up, DESTROY) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.” Job 1:6,7 Within the parameters God set, Satan the accuser and murderer, was allowed to test Job. Job 1:9-12 Under that test, Job thought the persecution was committed by God. In your Armageddon, you believe that the bloodshed will be committed by Jesus, and NOT by Satan who seeks to devour/destroy. Jer 19:5 – “They have built places here for worship of the god Baal so that they could sacrifice their children as burnt offerings to him in the fire. Such sacrifices are something I never commanded them to make. They are something I never told them to do! Indeed, such a thing never even entered my mind.” Deut 12:31 - You must not worship the Lord your God the way they do! For everything that is abhorrent to him, everything he hates, they have done when worshiping their gods. They even burn up their sons and daughters before their gods! Jesus said his word will be the judge in the last days. “The one who rejects me and does not accept my words has a judge; the word I have spoken will judge him at the last day.” John 12:48 “Now Enoch, the seventh in descent beginning with Adam, even prophesied of them, saying, “Look! The Lord is coming with thousands and thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all, and to convict every person of all their thoroughly ungodly deeds that they have committed, and of all the harsh words that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Jude 1:14,15 To “execute judgment” means to “make” or “bring forth” judgment. He never said he will come to destroy. That is where Satan the Destroyer steps in when God removes His protection, just as in the case of Job. You realize, don’t you, that there is a protective spirit over the entire world? If it wasn’t there, Satan would have destroyed everyone, and the earth long ago. God’s protection has allowed the development of the holy administration in the “sons of men” to reach completion. (Rom 8:19-22; Zech 4:7; Dan 2:32-35; 7:9,10,21,22,26,27) Through Jesus’ servants, we learn that war is spiritual in the form of truth against lies; and Armageddon is a war of decision-making in the “valley of decision”. (Eph 6:10-17; Joel 3:11-14; Jude 1:14,15) Will you continue to believe that Jesus is the destroyer, or will you open your eyes and realize that Satan, the master of deceit and destruction, has all of you fooled?

“For the Lord will pass through to strike Egypt, and when he sees the blood on the top of the doorframe and the two side posts, then the Lord will pass over the door, and he will not permit the destroyer[e] to enter your houses to strike you.” Exod 12:23 [e] Here the form is the Hiphil participle with the definite article. Gesenius says this is now to be explained as “the destroyer” although some take it to mean “destruction” A. (Hiphil) i.to spoil, ruin, destroy ii.to pervert, corrupt (morally) iii. destroyer (participle) Would Jesus pervert or corrupt anything? Heb 11:28 – “By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of the blood, so that the one who destroyed the firstborn would not touch them.” Still thinking this is Jesus as the destroyer and corrupter, ruiner, perverter? 1 Cor 10:10 – “And don’t grumble as some of them did, and were killed by the destroyer”. “destroyer” - a ruiner, i.e. (specially), a venomous serpent:—destroyer. Who is the venomous serpent? Rev 12:9- “So that huge dragon—the ancient serpent, the one called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world—was thrown down to the earth, and his angels along with him.” The Destroyer is Satan. Jesus told us HE IS NOT THE DESTROYER in John 10:10. Why don’t JWs believe his words?

If Jesus is the destroyer, then he will be destroyed. Isa 33:1 You may as well remove the book of Job from your Bible which is a witness that Satan is the Destroyer.

And how did the demons answer him? Tell me what he said! You are putting more stock in the words of demons, than the words of Jesus, the Word of God! You also, Arauna! What lies in your hearts? Do you revel in destruction of every human on this earth by the very person who sacrificed his own life to SAVE lives? I really can’t believe you reject all scripture, all proof. Oh wait, I can believe it. The doctrine of your false prophets is far more important than the teachings of Jesus Christ. (Matt 15:9) My goodness, man. Your battle against scripture is insane. And your battle will get you nowhere with God and His beloved Son. There is a difference in the meaning of the word “destroy” used in Mark 1:24, compared to 1 Cor 15:26. The demons are using apollymi, which means: A. to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin B. render useless C. to kill D. to declare that one must be put to death E. metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell F. to perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed 1 Cor 15:26, where Jesus “destroys” death, uses the word katargeō , which means – I.to render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative A. to cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency B. to deprive of force, influence, power II.to cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish . to cease, to pass away, be done away A. to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one B. to terminate all intercourse with one There is a difference in the meanings between the two words. John 10:10 - Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” The thief destroys – it is the same Greek word ( apollymi) that stems from “Apollyon”, that the demons used in their question Jesus. That word is not used in 1 Cor 15:26. He is not the killer, “Apollyon” or “Abaddon”.

Rev 9:11 - And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon( "destruction"), but in Greek he has the name Apollyon ("destroyer"). The angel/destroyer of Destruction, who is the angel of the abyss, are found together, as a compatible pair. So too, are Sheol and Abaddon. Prov 27:20 - Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, and people's eyes are never satisfied. "PIT". The abyss is the bottomless PIT.

You know, you have totally disregarded what GOD'S WORD says about Abaddon. You are saying that Jesus has no "covering", and that Jesus is never satisfied, just as Sheol the place of death is never satisfied. Sheol's definitions - https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h7585/nkjv/wlc/0-1/ sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit the underworld Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead place of no return without praise of God wicked sent there for punishment righteous not abandoned to it of the place of exile (fig) of extreme degradation in sin By listening to the lies of men who say Jesus is Abaddon, the King of the abyss, you have compared Jesus Christ with wickedness, sin, death, and without praise of God. Who really fits that description? Satan? Yes. There is no sharing of light with darkness. He is not the King over darkness and death. What happens when a lamp is brought into a dark room? It destroys darkness. Jesus is the Word. The Word is TRUTH. TRUTH is LIGHT and imparts LIFE. Lies are DARKNESS. The abyss is a bottomless pit of darkness. It is slanderous to say that Jesus is the king, the ruler over darkness. He is not both the author of life and light, and the author of death and darkness, that results from absence of truth and light. The sword he wields in the battle of Armageddon, (Rev 1:16) is defined in God’s word: “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” Eph 6:17 The Word of God is even sharper than a literal sword: “For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Heb 4:12 Jesus will not be carrying a literal sword to slaughter humans in your Armageddon. He carries only the Word of God, which is truth and light. How clear it is by the lies of the Wt., that it is at war against Jesus Christ and the "remaining ones of her seed". Gen 3:15, Rev 12:15,17 It is against the Word of Truth, Light and Life - the Son of God - by claiming he is the Destroyer of life. John 10:10 The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 emerges from darkness, from the abyss, the place devoid of life and light in the Word of God. “When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.” Rev 11:7 In this scripture, the Beast is making war with the anointed who speak against the lying doctrines of a false prophet of Rev 13:11,12. (Rev 11:1-4; Zech 4:11,13-14) The Beast is also said to come out of the Sea, comprised of wickedness found in the hearts of men. (Isa 57:20) (Rev 13:1) The abyss is compared to the sea of wickedness and darkness. Who gives the Beast from the sea, its power? If Jesus was king over the abyss, it would be he, that would grant it power. “Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.” Rev 13:2 Satan is king over darkness, and that darkness is the abyss. He can give the power of darkness to anyone he wants. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” Luke 4:6 Jesus is described as the Light of the world, the very world that Satan had been given authority and rulership over. (John 12:31) “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it.” John 1:4-5 But you want to put Jesus in charge of spreading darkness by saying he rules over the abyss as king and Destroyer of life and light. The Beast from the sea of wickedness and darkness, is the man of lawlessness – Rev 13:18. 2 Thess 2:3,4 tells us that this composite “man” sits and rules over God’s saints/anointed, which is happening in the organization with the elder body. The anointed are the “living stones” of the spiritual temple of God. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) They are found “captive” in the Beast from the sea of wickedness – the organization. They are fed lies about themselves and about the necessary need to be under the rulership of "Gentiles" (Rev 11:1,2; Ezek 44:6-9) What will be the end of this Beast? “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.” 2 Thess 2:8 The breath of the mouth of Christ is the Spirit of Truth and Light. Light overcomes darkness. Carrying a lamp into a dark room consumes darkness. It snuffs it out. It is with the Word of God that Satan’s Beast will be destroyed by. It is the “man of lawlessness” (Rev 13:18) that Jesus will destroy, by the sword of the Spirit – the Word of Truth. Jer 23:29 - “Is not My word like a fire?” says the Lord, “And like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? John 12:48 – “He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.” The Beast from the sea, its false prophet and Satan are thrown into the lake of FIRE of condemnation. They will be not literally burning as Wt pictures portray. Rev 20:10 Death that is found in the abyss where Satan is King, is destroyed by the Word of God, which is truth and light. (1 Cor 15:26) The abyss is not a literal place, but the aura of darkness, of not perceiving, devoid of all life in Jesus Christ. “Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” Rev 20:14 “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.” Rev 21:1 No more wickedness or wicked people. “And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” Rev 21:4 Open your eyes and stop drinking the Harlot's wine. Rev 17:1,2,15

Job 26:6 - Sheol is naked before God,and Abaddon has no covering. Prov 15:11 - Sheol and Abaddon lie open before the Lord—how much more, human hearts. Prov 27:20 - Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied,and people’s eyes are never satisfied. Nope, Jesus is NOT the king of the abyss.

Of course your teaching believes that Jesus is the King of the Abyss, the Destroyer. It goes right along with a god called, “Jehovah”, a god of ruin, disaster. No, the King of the abyss, the bottomless pit, the realm of the dead (Rom 10:7) is Satan. He is king over the locust scorpion army that causes affliction on God’s anointed, who have not been sealed into the heavens. (Rev 9:1-6) The "angel" who symbolically "opens" the abyss is a fallen anointed one. (Rev 8:10,11) The idea to mislead the anointed with lies, has been given to this fallen "star" to develop with the power of Satan. (Matt 24:24,25) (Deut 1:10; 1 Cor 10:12; Jude 1:12,13) (Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12) Those anointed who haven't been sealed into the heavens, are also the symbolic “10 kings” who have not received a kingdom but give over their royal authority to the Beast from the Sea/organization. (Rev 17:12,13,15-17) They refuse to be "killed"/disfellowshipped for their testimony of Jesus. (John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7;13:15) This Beast also comes out of the abyss, which “makes war” with the saints. (Rev 13:5-7;11:7). The saints are conquered by the lies coming from the Beast and its false prophet directing it. Yes, the locust scorpions and the Beast of Rev 13:1,2 are the same identity. Both make war with the saints, the last anointed remnant. (Rev 5:9,10) And since they emerge from the abyss, you are saying Jesus is king over both the Beast and the locust scorpions. (Rev 9:11) According to Watchtower jargon, (not mine), Jesus is then king over the United Nations. Wow! The abyss is a place of not perceiving, of spiritual darkness and of destruction. Is Jesus darkness that he would rule over it? “In him was life, and that life was the light of men.” John 1:4 Jesus spoke to them again: “I am the light of the world. Anyone who follows me will never walk in the darkness but will have the light of life.” John 8:12 There we go! Jesus would never be king over darkness. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come so that they may have life and have it in abundance. John 10:10 There is no sharing of light with darkness. Again, he is not the king over darkness and death. (2 Cor 6:14-17)

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I'm sorry, but you don't get it. If Jesus ever pronounced the tetragrammaton out loud, he would never have said "Jehovah", or "Yahovah" or "Yehovah". Do you really think he would connect the Hebrew word, "hovah" (Strong's 1943) to identify the Father? Je/Ye/Ya - God of hovah - disaster/ruin All of you do, every time you say it out loud or utter it in your mind. It is easy to speak to the Father, pray to the Father, and address God as Father, as Jesus did. Obviously it isn't easy for JWs who believe that the literal word "Jehovah" is a talisman of some sort, like an amulet worn around the neck. "Jehovah" IS NOT the tetragrammaton. This is not how one gets to understand and know God. Jer 4:22; John 14:8-10

"Father, those whom you have given to me—I want that those also may be with me where I am, in order that they may see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. 25 Righteous Father, although the world does not know you, yet I have known you, and these men have come to know that you sent me. 26 And I made known to them your name, and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and I may be in them.” John 17:24-26

And we can guarantee that they didn't say "Jehovah". Jesus made God’s name know by his teachings, his truths. Concentrating on the LITERAL, PHYSICAL hybrid of the tetragrammaton, was not how Jesus made God’s name known. It appears to me that JWs are all obsessed with the literal name “Jehovah”, and not taking to heart the example of Jesus. Not one person will be judged as righteous by saying the name “Jehovah”. Not one. This is not how God forms or recognizes "a people for His name". “There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.” John 12:48 “And it happened that on the next day, their rulers and elders and scribes came together in Jerusalem, 6 and Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas and John and Alexander, and all those who were from the high priest’s family. 7 And they made them stand in their midst and began to ask, “By what power or by what name did you do this?” 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, 9 if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a sick man—by what means this man was healed— 10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man stands before you healthy! 11 This one is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, that has become the cornerstone 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven that is given among people by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:5-12 But what do the Wt. leaders say? Your “love” for Jesus must not be too much or too little…but just right, whatever that means. The emphasis is on making sure you say, and think ,and do everything around the name “Jehovah”. Strong’s #3050 - Yah: the name of the God of Israel Original Word: יָהּ Part of Speech: Proper Name Transliteration: Yah Phonetic Spelling: (yaw) Definition: the name of the God of Israel Word Origin contr. from Yhvh Definition the name of the God of Israel NASB Translation GOD (1), LORD (49). Now, add to this: Strong’s #1943 - hovah: a ruin, disaster Original Word: הָוה Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: hovah Phonetic Spelling: (ho-vaw') Definition: a ruin, disaster הֹוָה noun feminine ruin, disaster (compare below הַוָּה) Ezekiel 7:26 הֹוָה עַל הֹוָה תָבוֺא disaster shall come upon disaster, Isaiah 47:11 וְתִמֹּל עָלַיִךְ הֹוָה disaster shall fall upon thee ("" רָעָה, שֹׁאָה). The present nation of spiritual “Israel”/anointed and JWs with them have, as their god – a god of ruin and disaster. This is why I will not use the name “Jehovah” to approach the Father in prayer. This world is under Satan’s power. He can influence whomever he likes to accuse and twist and change the truth about the Father, as well as the Son. He can influence whomever he wishes to take the tetragrammaton and devise a hybrid name that under the surface, shows his cunning ability to mislead all of you with a great big lie. (2 Cor 11:13-15; 1 Tim 4:1) The remarkable thing is, JWs do believe in a god of disaster, of ruin. They believe that in Armageddon, God and Jesus will destroy, and bring to ruin all inhabitants on the earth. They illustrate their Armageddon in graphic, bloody, color for their children to examine and have nightmares over....for years. Pretty tricky of Satan, the Destroyer, to deflect Armageddon’s destruction onto the Father and the Son. Yet, should anyone be surprised, since we know he is the father of the lie? John 8:44; Prov 26:28; Isa 33:1; John 10:10 I'll bet many JWs here believe there could be a nuclear war, a third world war that destroys millions of mankind. Who's behind that destruction, God? Jesus? OR SATAN?

"Babylon was a gold cup in the LORD’s hand; she made the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore they have now gone mad " Jer 51:7 "And the woman you saw is the great city that has royal power over the kings of the earth.” Jesus' "kings of the earth" - Rev 1:5 "The kings of the earth (Rev 1:5) committed sexual immorality with her, and those who live on the earth became drunk on the wine of her sexual immorality.” Rev 17:2 You are spiritually "drunk" on the wicked slave/harlot's wine. I'm very sorry you can't see my point. Then I heard another voice from heaven: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins or receive any of her plagues. 5 For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes. 6 Pay her back the way she also paid, and double it according to her works. In the cup in which she mixed, mix a double portion for her. 7 As much as she glorified herself and indulged her sensual and excessive ways, give her that much torment and grief. For she says in her heart, “I sit as a queen; I am not a widow, and I will never see grief.” 8 For this reason her plagues will come in just one day— death and grief and famine. She will be burned up with fire, because the Lord God who judges her is mighty." Rev 18:4 As a review - who do the "kings of the earth" refer to? Are they the world's political leaders? Or, are theY Jesus' kings that Revelation is speaking about? The clue is here: REV 1:5, and here: REV 18:4