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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Twist this if it makes you happy BUT you were not talking about Scripture at that time. you were talking about me getting my understanding of things from the main stream media. My reply was that my thought and understanding were my own.
     I'm not suggesting that the True Anointed will 'raise the dead' or 'heal the sick'. BUT i am suggesting that the True Anointed will be inspired and will have visions and dream dreams, just as the scripture in Acts mentions. 
    Berean Study Bible Acts 2 : 17 & 18 
    ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. And even upon My servants, and upon My handmaidens, I will pour out of My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
    Oh You of little faith. how will you be saved. 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I didn't expect you to write this nonsense.
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I get the impression that you have a list of two groups, on one are the media sources that always presents the truth, and on the other list are the media sources that always presents lie.
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Well it seems that SM knows for sure that no Prophet will ever be Inspired ever again. It's finished. 
    I don't think so  
    We do not know 'exactly' where we are in the stream of time.  We do not know how many years are left. 
    SM is busy telling me that I don't use scripture to base my ideas on. SM seems to know more about me than God or Yeshua know. 
    So to SM and ALL others here. I believe that in the 'last days' Inspired Prophets or Inspired Anointed ones will guide true Christians to truth and give true direction and help. 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I respect opinion in your claim that you do not do opinions.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    The last prophet is spoken of in Matt 17:11, which Jesus spoke about after the visionary event on the holy mountain with his three disciples.  Moses and Elijah were seen in vision, with Jesus.  He then tells his disciples that "Elijah" would come and "restore everything".  This is clarified in Mal 3:1-4; 4:4-6; Rev 11:1-3.  That being "restored", is the Temple/dwelling in the hearts of the anointed "living stones".  1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17.
    They are found in the Watchtower under the "iron" fist of the elder body and a wicked slave.  (Matt 24:48-51)
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I don't know who "them" is, but every anointed priest is inspired by Holy Spirit at their anointing, which I have already mentioned. (Rom 5:5; 1 John 4:6; 1 John 2:27; John 15:4-8,16; Rom 2:29; Heb 8:10; Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10)   But if they refuse to act upon it through obedience to Jesus Christ, and his word...and instead listen to men and their lies, they eventually lose God's Spirit. (Matt 5:13; Luke 11:31; Matt 25:14-30)
    Since an anointed priest under Christ is inspired by Holy Spirit, so too would be any prophet sent by God.
    "There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ's gift."  Eph 4:4-7
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    There is no scripture that says  prophesy has ceased. This scripture you quoted, said by a prophet of God and member of the Body of Christ, is not saying anything about it.  In fact, I gave scriptures that proves there would be a prophet to come to God's chosen priests, in the last days.  (Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3)(1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  Only men are saying there are no "inspired" prophets, which shows they are bold enough to check the hand of God.  Every anointed priest is inspired, and among them are prophets.  (Rom 5:5; 2 Cor 1:21; 1 John 2:27)
    "Now there are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are different activities, but the same God works all of them in each person. 7 A manifestation of the Spirit is given to each person for the common good: 8 to one is given a message of wisdom through the Spirit, to another, a message of knowledge by the same Spirit, 9 to another, faith by the same Spirit, to another, gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 to another, the performing of miracles, to another, prophecy, to another, distinguishing between spirits, to another, different kinds of tongues, to another, interpretation of tongues. 11 One and the same Spirit is active in all these, distributing to each person as he wills."  
    "Now you are the body of Christ, and individual members of it.  And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, next miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, leading, various kinds of tongues."  1 Cor 12
    Sadly, you feel people could be inspired by demonic spirits, but not by the Holy Spirit from God. To say that prophecy is a gift eliminated from the Body of Christ, means that you believe a vital member of Jesus is not needed.
    "But as it is, God has arranged each one of the parts in the body just as He wanted." 
    Not by what men want.
    "19 And if they were all the same part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” Or again, the head can’t say to the feet, “I don’t need you!”  1 Cor 12
    Prophets from God are spiritual "seers".  Do you really believe that God would eliminate an "eye" of the Body of Christ?
    "And he himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ, 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God’s Son, growing into maturity with a stature measured by Christ’s fullness."  Eph 4
    There is not a category mentioned in God's word, where a prophet of God would not be inspired by Holy Spirit, since an anointing is the inspiration of Holy Spirit, coming upon an individual to begin with. 
    The definition by God is straightforward and simple, which also helps us identify the false prophets.
    18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 I will hold accountable whoever does not listen to my words that he speaks in my name. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a message in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that prophet must die.’ 21 You may say to yourself, ‘How can we recognize a message the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the Lord’s name, and the message does not come true or is not fulfilled, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.  Deut 18:18-22
    "Indeed, the Lord God does nothing
    without revealing His counsel
    to his servants the prophets."  Amos 3:7
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It seems that most people on here lack real faith in YHWH and through Yeshua. 
    I think Space Merchant is treading a very dangerous path for himself, but why would he ?
    Well why do the GB of the Watchtower tread that same path ? It's all to do with 'power' and control.
    Some people do not want to accept that Yeshua has been given all authority in Heaven and on Earth. 
    Yeshua could send angels to give messages to True Anointed ones if Yeshua so wishes. 
    Yeshua could send the Holy Spirit from God to True Anointed ones if Yeshua so wishes. 
    Miracles have not ceased, and will not cease. 
    Yes I AM, Patiently waiting for Truth. 
    But I'm NOT pretending that I know more that others. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    About prophesy, none of us should say with "absolute certainty", that prophesy has ceased.  If we do, we have exalted ourselves above the power and ability of the Father.  We are suggesting that we know His plan. 
    “Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.” 1 Cor 13:8-10
    Has “the perfect” arrived yet?
    Have people stopped speaking other “tongues”/languages?
    Has knowledge ceased? 
    “But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”  Dan 12:4
    If the languages still exist, as well as an increase in spiritual knowledge, then why would prophesy, which imparts the knowledge of God, cease?
    John the Baptist came ‘in the manner’ of Elijah, prophesying the need for God’s people to repent, to prepare a people for the coming of the Son of Man.  In the last days, another “Elijah” comes to God’s holy people.  This one also “prophesies” the need for them to repent. 
    Matt 17:10,11 -  And His disciples asked Him, saying, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming  first and will restore all things. “
    Messengers from God receive visions and dreams, to understand the message that they are to impart.  God’s words are put in their mouth.
    Num 12:6 - Then He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream.”
    Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
    Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
    6 And he will turn
    The hearts of the fathers to the children,
    And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
    Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” Mal 4
    “Behold, I send My messenger,
    And he will prepare the way before Me.
    And the Lord, whom you seek,
    Will suddenly come to His temple,
    Even the Messenger of the covenant,
    In whom you delight.
    Behold, He is coming,”
    Says the Lord of hosts. Mal 3:1-3
    Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”  Rev 11:1-3
    “prophesy” - to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict
    In this case of the “Gentiles” standing in the Temple of God, this is not the Roman army that invaded the literal city and temple in Jerusalem.  This is describing the "man of lawlessness" in the last days, another “Gentile” entity that now “sits” in the Temple dwelling of God – elders who “represent the royal priesthood”.  The message to JWs, to God’s holy priesthood, is to flee if any perceive this abomination. Matt 24:15,16
    Never in God’s word, does it condone the replacement of God’s priests. 
    So the Lord said to Aaron, “You and your sons and your father's house with you shall bear iniquity connected with the sanctuary, and you and your sons with you shall bear iniquity connected with your priesthood.
     And you and your sons with you shall guard your priesthood for all that concerns the altar and that is within the veil; and you shall serve. I give your priesthood as a gift,[a] and any outsider who comes near shall be put to death.”  Num 18:1,7
    So, God anoints particular people to be His priests, members of the Body of Christ, and “living stones” of the Temple.  Yet, the elders have boldly replaced them, which transgresses all that the scriptures tell us, about God’s appointed priesthood.  This is why a prophet brings God’s message to His people, in the last days. Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4
    Jesus words do not die.  We are judged by his words. (John 12:48)   If there were not to be any more prophets, why would he have said,
    "Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward."  Matt 10:41
    And why would the apostle Paul mentioned prophets as part of the foundation of the Temple/dwelling of God? Eph 2:20-22
     
    https://pearl-winepress.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    About prophesy, none of us should say with "absolute certainty", that prophesy has ceased.  If we do, we have exalted ourselves above the power and ability of the Father.  We are suggesting that we know His plan. 
    “Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.” 1 Cor 13:8-10
    Has “the perfect” arrived yet?
    Have people stopped speaking other “tongues”/languages?
    Has knowledge ceased? 
    “But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”  Dan 12:4
    If the languages still exist, as well as an increase in spiritual knowledge, then why would prophesy, which imparts the knowledge of God, cease?
    John the Baptist came ‘in the manner’ of Elijah, prophesying the need for God’s people to repent, to prepare a people for the coming of the Son of Man.  In the last days, another “Elijah” comes to God’s holy people.  This one also “prophesies” the need for them to repent. 
    Matt 17:10,11 -  And His disciples asked Him, saying, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming  first and will restore all things. “
    Messengers from God receive visions and dreams, to understand the message that they are to impart.  God’s words are put in their mouth.
    Num 12:6 - Then He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream.”
    Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
    Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
    6 And he will turn
    The hearts of the fathers to the children,
    And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
    Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” Mal 4
    “Behold, I send My messenger,
    And he will prepare the way before Me.
    And the Lord, whom you seek,
    Will suddenly come to His temple,
    Even the Messenger of the covenant,
    In whom you delight.
    Behold, He is coming,”
    Says the Lord of hosts. Mal 3:1-3
    Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”  Rev 11:1-3
    “prophesy” - to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict
    In this case of the “Gentiles” standing in the Temple of God, this is not the Roman army that invaded the literal city and temple in Jerusalem.  This is describing the "man of lawlessness" in the last days, another “Gentile” entity that now “sits” in the Temple dwelling of God – elders who “represent the royal priesthood”.  The message to JWs, to God’s holy priesthood, is to flee if any perceive this abomination. Matt 24:15,16
    Never in God’s word, does it condone the replacement of God’s priests. 
    So the Lord said to Aaron, “You and your sons and your father's house with you shall bear iniquity connected with the sanctuary, and you and your sons with you shall bear iniquity connected with your priesthood.
     And you and your sons with you shall guard your priesthood for all that concerns the altar and that is within the veil; and you shall serve. I give your priesthood as a gift,[a] and any outsider who comes near shall be put to death.”  Num 18:1,7
    So, God anoints particular people to be His priests, members of the Body of Christ, and “living stones” of the Temple.  Yet, the elders have boldly replaced them, which transgresses all that the scriptures tell us, about God’s appointed priesthood.  This is why a prophet brings God’s message to His people, in the last days. Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4
    Jesus words do not die.  We are judged by his words. (John 12:48)   If there were not to be any more prophets, why would he have said,
    "Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward."  Matt 10:41
    And why would the apostle Paul mentioned prophets as part of the foundation of the Temple/dwelling of God? Eph 2:20-22
     
    https://pearl-winepress.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    About prophesy, none of us should say with "absolute certainty", that prophesy has ceased.  If we do, we have exalted ourselves above the power and ability of the Father.  We are suggesting that we know His plan. 
    “Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.” 1 Cor 13:8-10
    Has “the perfect” arrived yet?
    Have people stopped speaking other “tongues”/languages?
    Has knowledge ceased? 
    “But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”  Dan 12:4
    If the languages still exist, as well as an increase in spiritual knowledge, then why would prophesy, which imparts the knowledge of God, cease?
    John the Baptist came ‘in the manner’ of Elijah, prophesying the need for God’s people to repent, to prepare a people for the coming of the Son of Man.  In the last days, another “Elijah” comes to God’s holy people.  This one also “prophesies” the need for them to repent. 
    Matt 17:10,11 -  And His disciples asked Him, saying, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming  first and will restore all things. “
    Messengers from God receive visions and dreams, to understand the message that they are to impart.  God’s words are put in their mouth.
    Num 12:6 - Then He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream.”
    Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
    Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
    6 And he will turn
    The hearts of the fathers to the children,
    And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
    Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” Mal 4
    “Behold, I send My messenger,
    And he will prepare the way before Me.
    And the Lord, whom you seek,
    Will suddenly come to His temple,
    Even the Messenger of the covenant,
    In whom you delight.
    Behold, He is coming,”
    Says the Lord of hosts. Mal 3:1-3
    Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”  Rev 11:1-3
    “prophesy” - to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict
    In this case of the “Gentiles” standing in the Temple of God, this is not the Roman army that invaded the literal city and temple in Jerusalem.  This is describing the "man of lawlessness" in the last days, another “Gentile” entity that now “sits” in the Temple dwelling of God – elders who “represent the royal priesthood”.  The message to JWs, to God’s holy priesthood, is to flee if any perceive this abomination. Matt 24:15,16
    Never in God’s word, does it condone the replacement of God’s priests. 
    So the Lord said to Aaron, “You and your sons and your father's house with you shall bear iniquity connected with the sanctuary, and you and your sons with you shall bear iniquity connected with your priesthood.
     And you and your sons with you shall guard your priesthood for all that concerns the altar and that is within the veil; and you shall serve. I give your priesthood as a gift,[a] and any outsider who comes near shall be put to death.”  Num 18:1,7
    So, God anoints particular people to be His priests, members of the Body of Christ, and “living stones” of the Temple.  Yet, the elders have boldly replaced them, which transgresses all that the scriptures tell us, about God’s appointed priesthood.  This is why a prophet brings God’s message to His people, in the last days. Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4
    Jesus words do not die.  We are judged by his words. (John 12:48)   If there were not to be any more prophets, why would he have said,
    "Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward."  Matt 10:41
    And why would the apostle Paul mentioned prophets as part of the foundation of the Temple/dwelling of God? Eph 2:20-22
     
    https://pearl-winepress.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    'real' JWs serve only those 8 men that call themselves the F&DS.  Their baptism is into the JW Org, they don't even use the words that Yeshua told them to use. They don't pick and chose because they have to do exactly as the GB tells them to do. They have no Christian conscience because it has been 'taken over' by the GB and the Elders. This can be proven by how JWs promote the lies of the GB and the Org.  Not to mention how they hide Pedophiles in the congregations. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Berean Study Bible Acts 2 : 17
    ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
    Or do you think this only referred to the 1st Century disciples / apostles ? 
    Do you lack such faith ? 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It was 10 I think. But two points here. 
    I have never wanted to lead an organisation, and I've never pretended that I'm inspired of God's Holy Spirit.
    BUT your Leaders pretend to know. However as can be seen by many Watchtower articles, it's all HYPE. 
    There is as much propaganda from the Watchtower / JW Org as there is from main stream media  
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Their use of the “king of the north” suits their purpose to fulfill their interpretation of scripture.
    GB member Kenneth Cook – It shouldn’t surprise us that this powerful government has been persecuting our peaceful law-abiding brothers and sisters.  Why not?  Because that government is fulfilling Bible prophesy.  Please find Dan. 11.  In verse 40 it refers to what the Bible calls the king of the north.  Of that king, Dan 11:41 says,
    “He will also enter the land of the Decoration and many lands will be made to stumble.” 
    He continues,
    “Today, Russia and its allies are fulfilling the role of the king of the north. As discussed in the May 2020 Watchtower, Russia and its allies are not the first political power to act as the king of the north, but they may well be the last."
    His helper, Hermanus Van Selm explains that the names, king of the north and king of the south, are determined by the literal location from early Jerusalem.  But, “Over time these thrones have been occupied by various political powers”
    In their video they explains how they labeled nations as king of the north over the years. Whatever suits their purpose at the time to attempt Bible fulfillment, they have labeled as the “king of the north”.
    https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthlyPrograms/pub-jwb-080_1_VIDEO
     
    Going back to Dan 11:41, he says Daniel foretold that this king would enter the land of the decoration, meaning that he would interfere in a significant way with the activities of God’s people – of JWs.
    The “land of the decoration” is also referred to in other Bible translations as the “land of Beauty”, “glorious”, “promised”, “pleasant land”; all referring to Israel.  Why didn’t he specify that this refers to a people, not to “activities”? 
    He really couldn’t point this out, as it would contradict with their teaching that the anointed “Israel” are the locust scorpions of Revelation 9, bringing their stinging message to the world. Locusts devour land.  So the contradiction exists in their two doctrines.  Since he says the king of the north halts the “activities” of JWs, should it be said that Russia is the locust army of Revelation 9? We've got one entity apparently interfering with JW activity, as well as devouring a literal land - the Ukraine.  Then, we have the anointed appearing as locusts, also "devouring" the world with their scorpion-like stinging message. The anointed must not be very successful at "stinging" since their activities have been halted in one part of the world.  
    Do they know what they are talking about?  I believe they purposefully confuse JWs to hide both identities as fulfilled within their own organization.  There is an activity and a people that have been “devoured” – the royal priesthood found inside the organization, who must bow down to its leadership and their army, “man of lawlessness”, that “sits” in the Temple of God  – over the “living stones” – God’s “special possession”.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  The elders have "entered" God's "land" and dwelling of His Spirit.  (1 Cor 3:9; Ezek 44:6-9)
    "Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! "   wt 02/8/1 p. 13,14
    Every JWs, especially the anointed priests, needs to pay attention to Jesus' words:  
    “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."  Matt 24:15,16
    Locusts desolate - devour - land. The king of the north, the locust scorpions, are the elders who will not tolerate any challenge to their rule.  (Rev 13:1,2,5-7,15)
    “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,
    So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, (John 15:16)
    Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,”  (John 15:5)
    Says the Lord of hosts;
    12 “And all nations will call you blessed,
    For you will be a delightful land,”
    Says the Lord of hosts."  Mal 3:11,12
     
     
     
     
     
  17. Upvote
    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    What has been meaningless for decades is calling Russia the King of the North and the United States the King of the South. First of all, Russia is east of America, and America is west of Russia. So much for literal and symbolic geography. 
    Or do you think that God sees it from heaven, so that the sides of the world are arranged differently for Him?
  18. Like
    Witness reacted to Matthew9969 in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Help for Ukraine: 20+ charities on the frontlines - National Christian Foundation (ncfgiving.com)
    Myself and my church give to some of these charities, and as you notice they don't limit their aide.
    So I've shown you mine, now show me yours.....except it has to be from a 3rd party non-watchtower reporting service. As of now the only elephant in the room is your inability to back up your claim.
  19. Like
    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Prove to me that I actually said that.
    I’m not part of an institution, an earthly organization, or a corporation.  You are too use to the ways of the Watchtower.  I follow the scriptures, not “bylaws” created by men. 
    A once JW, I don’t know who, wrote this years ago about your institution and its policies:
     
    The Watchtower Society is clearly an organizational IDOL. Anyone who has been a JW for even a short length of time should have no problem discerning this as we are continually commanded to:
    1. Reject ALL information pertaining to the bible and its interpretation if it does not come from the "spirit-anointed organization" exclusively
    2. Reject ALL persons that do not fully agree with and adhere to all the "spirit-anointed organization's" doctrines, policies and procedures.
    3. Reject/dismiss ALL our inner doubts/concerns and even our God-given conscience when these bring into question any of the teachings of the "spirit-anointed organization".
    Further, just as in the case of King Nebuchadnezzar and the three Hebrews, bowing down to this imposing, shiny image-- the "spirit-anointed organization"--is required by all who do not wish to be thrown into the Governing Body's fiery furnace by their attendants --the elders and others in the congregation! Those that refuse to bow down to, or worship (i.e., loyally obey) this image/idol/god are either marked, shunned or disfellowshipped and also told that they are rejecting Jah; spearing His slave; mentally diseased; awaiting death at Armageddon, etc. (I was marked and shunned [an old WT teaching that's still practiced by some] though never disfellowshipped.)
    Any who may be shaking their heads in disbelief can prove this to themselves by simply commenting at their meeting that the "faithful and discreet slave" as mentioned in Matthew and Luke has not been appointed by Jesus yet (this is an accurate statement scripturally [Luke 12:39-46], but not organizationally). It may take more than one attempt before the elders and others decide to act, but they will without fail nonetheless. (Try it –I dare you! Lol)

    Anyone with even a negligible amount of bible knowledge should be able to see that these man-made commandments and policies in themselves directly violate Jah's command to "have no other gods/images against my face...nor be induced to serve them" (Exodus 20:3-5). Contrary to the frequent admonition by the Gov. Body to resist "independent thinking", God's word also tells us to use the thinking ability He gave us to distinguish false prophets from true (Matthew 7:15; 24:23-25; 1 John 4:1) by appraising or scrutinizing them and their teachings (1 Corinthians 4:1; Acts 17:11; Romans 3:4); to not put our trust in earthling man (Psalm 146:3,4); and to obey Him (Jah) as ruler rather than men in ALL things and at ALL times, regardless of how insignificant it may seem (Acts 5:29; Luke 16:10). Most JW's can recite many of these verses in their sleep; yet they unwittingly disobey them by blindly and hypocritically clinging to the unscriptural teachings of their own religious leaders (the men of the Governing Body)while at the same time zealously exhorting others to do just the opposite (Romans 2:21-24; 12:9; Matt 15:8). This interesting dichotomy is clearly due to highly-effective cognitive programming by the GB, not God's word which tells us that Jah is NOT partial (Acts 10:34a).

    I will never forget one particular meeting where a well-respected elder of many years made the comment to all in the congregation that "whatever comes out of the mouth of the Governing Body should be considered as coming out of the mouth of Jehovah." That in a nut-shell truly sums it up, leaving no doubt as to the real identity of the so-called "spirit-anointed organization". These men are not inspired by God and even admit to this yet put themselves on equal footing with Him (2 Thessalonians 2:4), even going so far as to enforce exclusive devotion to their so called “spirit-anointed organization”.

    Why JW’s even possess bibles is beyond me; they are of no real use to them anymore than they are to the Mormons. As one individual stated recently, JW’s should change their official name to “Watchtowerites” as this would accurately describe who they really worship/serve.
  20. Upvote
    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Was he  ? I thought it was Matthew. 
  21. Like
    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    No mention of "apostates" here. 
    How you treat pagan or tax collector?
  22. Upvote
    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Prove to me that I actually said that.
    I’m not part of an institution, an earthly organization, or a corporation.  You are too use to the ways of the Watchtower.  I follow the scriptures, not “bylaws” created by men. 
    A once JW, I don’t know who, wrote this years ago about your institution and its policies:
     
    The Watchtower Society is clearly an organizational IDOL. Anyone who has been a JW for even a short length of time should have no problem discerning this as we are continually commanded to:
    1. Reject ALL information pertaining to the bible and its interpretation if it does not come from the "spirit-anointed organization" exclusively
    2. Reject ALL persons that do not fully agree with and adhere to all the "spirit-anointed organization's" doctrines, policies and procedures.
    3. Reject/dismiss ALL our inner doubts/concerns and even our God-given conscience when these bring into question any of the teachings of the "spirit-anointed organization".
    Further, just as in the case of King Nebuchadnezzar and the three Hebrews, bowing down to this imposing, shiny image-- the "spirit-anointed organization"--is required by all who do not wish to be thrown into the Governing Body's fiery furnace by their attendants --the elders and others in the congregation! Those that refuse to bow down to, or worship (i.e., loyally obey) this image/idol/god are either marked, shunned or disfellowshipped and also told that they are rejecting Jah; spearing His slave; mentally diseased; awaiting death at Armageddon, etc. (I was marked and shunned [an old WT teaching that's still practiced by some] though never disfellowshipped.)
    Any who may be shaking their heads in disbelief can prove this to themselves by simply commenting at their meeting that the "faithful and discreet slave" as mentioned in Matthew and Luke has not been appointed by Jesus yet (this is an accurate statement scripturally [Luke 12:39-46], but not organizationally). It may take more than one attempt before the elders and others decide to act, but they will without fail nonetheless. (Try it –I dare you! Lol)

    Anyone with even a negligible amount of bible knowledge should be able to see that these man-made commandments and policies in themselves directly violate Jah's command to "have no other gods/images against my face...nor be induced to serve them" (Exodus 20:3-5). Contrary to the frequent admonition by the Gov. Body to resist "independent thinking", God's word also tells us to use the thinking ability He gave us to distinguish false prophets from true (Matthew 7:15; 24:23-25; 1 John 4:1) by appraising or scrutinizing them and their teachings (1 Corinthians 4:1; Acts 17:11; Romans 3:4); to not put our trust in earthling man (Psalm 146:3,4); and to obey Him (Jah) as ruler rather than men in ALL things and at ALL times, regardless of how insignificant it may seem (Acts 5:29; Luke 16:10). Most JW's can recite many of these verses in their sleep; yet they unwittingly disobey them by blindly and hypocritically clinging to the unscriptural teachings of their own religious leaders (the men of the Governing Body)while at the same time zealously exhorting others to do just the opposite (Romans 2:21-24; 12:9; Matt 15:8). This interesting dichotomy is clearly due to highly-effective cognitive programming by the GB, not God's word which tells us that Jah is NOT partial (Acts 10:34a).

    I will never forget one particular meeting where a well-respected elder of many years made the comment to all in the congregation that "whatever comes out of the mouth of the Governing Body should be considered as coming out of the mouth of Jehovah." That in a nut-shell truly sums it up, leaving no doubt as to the real identity of the so-called "spirit-anointed organization". These men are not inspired by God and even admit to this yet put themselves on equal footing with Him (2 Thessalonians 2:4), even going so far as to enforce exclusive devotion to their so called “spirit-anointed organization”.

    Why JW’s even possess bibles is beyond me; they are of no real use to them anymore than they are to the Mormons. As one individual stated recently, JW’s should change their official name to “Watchtowerites” as this would accurately describe who they really worship/serve.
  23. Upvote
    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Do you think they have not received letters from many anointed, including those whom I associate with?  Most definitely. 
    Have they received an invitation to meet?  Yes
    Did these anointed receive a response?  No.
    Do you believe that GB would even allow them into their secure compound to talk with them in person?  No.
    They know who we are and they know what is written about them.  
    Have you read the parable of the wise and foolish virgins? Matt 25 The foolish virgins "buy" their oil for their lamps from  those who sell it.  The wise virgins join Christ.  Who "sells" regulated spiritual food in exchange for devotion to them, and to their organization?  Rev 13:11,12,15-17
    Rev 18:4-8 
    I do meet with anointed ones and those not anointed.   The eight have their ways that you could not imagine, of attempting to stop whatever is written about them.  
     
  24. Like
    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    This is an interesting view.
    When JWs go preaching to other people, we can say that these other people are members of religions that, according to WTJWorg, are called "Babylon the Great", and thus not only fell away from true worship and became apostates, but were doomed to destruction because of their affiliation to "Babylon," right?
    Yet, JWs discuss “spiritual truths” with them and argue to convince them of their “truth”. Interesting absurd in light of your question and claim?
  25. Thanks
    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Prove to me that I actually said that.
    I’m not part of an institution, an earthly organization, or a corporation.  You are too use to the ways of the Watchtower.  I follow the scriptures, not “bylaws” created by men. 
    A once JW, I don’t know who, wrote this years ago about your institution and its policies:
     
    The Watchtower Society is clearly an organizational IDOL. Anyone who has been a JW for even a short length of time should have no problem discerning this as we are continually commanded to:
    1. Reject ALL information pertaining to the bible and its interpretation if it does not come from the "spirit-anointed organization" exclusively
    2. Reject ALL persons that do not fully agree with and adhere to all the "spirit-anointed organization's" doctrines, policies and procedures.
    3. Reject/dismiss ALL our inner doubts/concerns and even our God-given conscience when these bring into question any of the teachings of the "spirit-anointed organization".
    Further, just as in the case of King Nebuchadnezzar and the three Hebrews, bowing down to this imposing, shiny image-- the "spirit-anointed organization"--is required by all who do not wish to be thrown into the Governing Body's fiery furnace by their attendants --the elders and others in the congregation! Those that refuse to bow down to, or worship (i.e., loyally obey) this image/idol/god are either marked, shunned or disfellowshipped and also told that they are rejecting Jah; spearing His slave; mentally diseased; awaiting death at Armageddon, etc. (I was marked and shunned [an old WT teaching that's still practiced by some] though never disfellowshipped.)
    Any who may be shaking their heads in disbelief can prove this to themselves by simply commenting at their meeting that the "faithful and discreet slave" as mentioned in Matthew and Luke has not been appointed by Jesus yet (this is an accurate statement scripturally [Luke 12:39-46], but not organizationally). It may take more than one attempt before the elders and others decide to act, but they will without fail nonetheless. (Try it –I dare you! Lol)

    Anyone with even a negligible amount of bible knowledge should be able to see that these man-made commandments and policies in themselves directly violate Jah's command to "have no other gods/images against my face...nor be induced to serve them" (Exodus 20:3-5). Contrary to the frequent admonition by the Gov. Body to resist "independent thinking", God's word also tells us to use the thinking ability He gave us to distinguish false prophets from true (Matthew 7:15; 24:23-25; 1 John 4:1) by appraising or scrutinizing them and their teachings (1 Corinthians 4:1; Acts 17:11; Romans 3:4); to not put our trust in earthling man (Psalm 146:3,4); and to obey Him (Jah) as ruler rather than men in ALL things and at ALL times, regardless of how insignificant it may seem (Acts 5:29; Luke 16:10). Most JW's can recite many of these verses in their sleep; yet they unwittingly disobey them by blindly and hypocritically clinging to the unscriptural teachings of their own religious leaders (the men of the Governing Body)while at the same time zealously exhorting others to do just the opposite (Romans 2:21-24; 12:9; Matt 15:8). This interesting dichotomy is clearly due to highly-effective cognitive programming by the GB, not God's word which tells us that Jah is NOT partial (Acts 10:34a).

    I will never forget one particular meeting where a well-respected elder of many years made the comment to all in the congregation that "whatever comes out of the mouth of the Governing Body should be considered as coming out of the mouth of Jehovah." That in a nut-shell truly sums it up, leaving no doubt as to the real identity of the so-called "spirit-anointed organization". These men are not inspired by God and even admit to this yet put themselves on equal footing with Him (2 Thessalonians 2:4), even going so far as to enforce exclusive devotion to their so called “spirit-anointed organization”.

    Why JW’s even possess bibles is beyond me; they are of no real use to them anymore than they are to the Mormons. As one individual stated recently, JW’s should change their official name to “Watchtowerites” as this would accurately describe who they really worship/serve.
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