Anna

The formal ruling according to the court of appeals document dated Nov. 9, 2017 page. 39 (the link to the document posted by Witness above)
"On the record before us, we are satisfied that the superior court's order was not arbitrary, capricious, or whimsical. To the contrary, the superior court has shown great patience and flexibility in dealing with a recalcitrant litigant who refuses to follow valid orders and merely reiterates losing arguments. We therefore affirm".
Therefore the fine stands.

The formal ruling according to the court of appeals document dated Nov. 9, 2017 page. 39 (the link to the document posted by Witness above)
"On the record before us, we are satisfied that the superior court's order was not arbitrary, capricious, or whimsical. To the contrary, the superior court has shown great patience and flexibility in dealing with a recalcitrant litigant who refuses to follow valid orders and merely reiterates losing arguments. We therefore affirm".
Therefore the fine stands.

C'est pourquoi il est important d'établir la vérité ...

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C'est pourquoi il est important d'établir la vérité ...

We have a choice whether we listen t them or not don't we?
That is ok if we do not have a preconceived idea about which direction we want to go, but rather go the direction which we find is the most agreeable with the entire contents of the Bible, whether we like the direction or not.  What is the point of seeking truth if we are not willing to be objective?

I don't think the order ever went through because the WT appealed the decision. If I do enough digging around I may be able to find out what the final result was.
OK. Dug around a bit and found  out the appeal was heard 11th October 2017 and the appellate court has 90 days to issue its formal ruling. Watch this space

But only if they have not committed the unforgivable sin. And we don't know who has a who hasn't. That's why I mentioned that if someone returns, that in itself an indication that they have NOT committed the unforgivable sin.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say

Yes to the video. The brother was recovered from an apostate course. I am just saying that while the "unforgivable sin" is necessarily accompanied by apostasy, however it is defined, it does not follow that all apostates have committed the "unforgivable sin".
In other words, those who apostatize can repent and turn around and experience forgiveness from Jehovah. The record of the Kings demonstrates this. In fact, the return of Solomon (who, as far as the record indicates, died in apostasy) in the resurrection of the unrighteous is a prime example (1Ki.11:43; Acts 24:15), whilst Mannaseh provides a second witness (2Chr.33:13; 20). 
Wilfullness and unrepentance seem to be key characterisics of the "unforgiveable sin". Of course, the determination of those factors lies in the hands of the "Judge of all the earth" and those whom He has commissioned and empowered to judge.

I thought that scripture was self explanatory. Enlightened means spiritually aware, in this case becoming aware of the truth about God and his son and his purpose for the future, and doing something about it in gratitude for what he has done for us by providing the ransom.
So the apostle Paul's point was that by turning away from the truth about God and his son these people reject the the very purpose of why Jesus died, and start producing" thorns" and "thistles" (verse 8).

Thanks  again...    I  like  it  to  learn  some  things  from  my  more  mature  brothers and  sisters   We're  all  imperfect,  but  in  Bible - knowledge  I  see  here  big  differences.  An  interesting  experience  for  me !

I edited it just at the same time you wrote this

For heavens sake will somebody tell this kid that the Bible does not teach that God is a literal person sitting on literal clouds! That this is symbolically speaking. He needs a Bible study....any volunteers?

Great, just great! After I said he was putting on weight. Now Witness will declare me a false prophet!

Dear Srecko, if you read and understand half of what I wrote, you will understand that there is no need for me to answer a single word.
The scriptures are all and anyone who, if he wishes, can meditate on these scriptures.
The people of God are one and only one who brings the name of Jehovah and preaches "the good news of the Kingdom" throughout the earth.
I only know one.
Talking to who's angry or wanting to have the last word is not useful to me.
Everyone should make their own evaluations - John 17:17

Actually, anyone can receive holy spirit
Interestingly, it would seem even apostates can return to Jehovah.
Possible, but definitely not a rule. People get disfellowshipped mostly for not being repentant "enough" and these people are welcomed back into the congregation and by Jehovah when they change their attitude. The Bible says so.
Some people have stayed out for many many years, but have come back. I doubt they have sinned against the holy spirit. The fact that they come back is proof of that.

I don't think any of us can claim that, and it is rather presumptuous of you if you think you can!

Unfortunately this can be true and is kind of a  bummer, especially for the ones who think they have sinned against the spirit  but have not because it can dishearten them so much that they want to give up. This is what Satan wants. He doesn't have to worry about those who think they are ok but are not.
Thankfully it rarely happens because if they haven't sinned against the spirit then they are still able to receive it and this will help them to overcome any feelings of hopelessness and eventually they will see that they still have Jehovah's favour. Those who really have committed the unforgivable sin no longer can receive God's spirit and usually do not desire to have anything to do with God, nor to live forever. Often they become atheists. 
 
 

Here  is  another  COVER,  without  record   very  very  old,  yes !   Today  we  can  quickly  use  our  tablet,  how  nice.  Our  Brothers  in  the  past  had  a  very  hard  service   but  they  were  happy  too !

Just found a collection of old, neglected and about to be thrown out books! Now rescued and re-homed with an appreciative, caring owner!

Gnosis Pithos 9 hours ago  
 
Dear Gnosis is the common Greek noun for knowledge (??????, gnôsis, f.).[1] The term is used in various Hellenistic religions and philosophies.[2][3] It is best known from Gnosticism, where it signifies a knowledge or insight into man's real nature as Divine, leading to the deliverance of the Divine spark within man from the constraints of earthly existence.
What confusing you in this simple, clear and truthful Anna's quote??? !!! 

I don't think any of us can claim that, and it is rather presumptuous of you if you think you can!

We humans can only judge what we see or hear about. Jehovah judges the heart.