TrueTomHarley

I hear that he foreclosed on his mother in the dead of winter and the poor woman would have froze to death for sure, but the wolves ate her first.
I am. That’s how I know.

I hear that he foreclosed on his mother in the dead of winter and the poor woman would have froze to death for sure, but the wolves ate her first.
I am. That’s how I know.

The guy doesn’t even know how to go apostate properly. You can’t sing “The Kids are Alright” as you’re doing it. He could have at least dug pits of bitumen for elders to fall in when they came calling.
Where is that article about there being Jehovah’s world and Satan’s world, from which arose the cute saying that you can’t sit on the fence because Satan owns the fence. Does that not precede the GB so presumably he has no issue with it? So, what? Does he think that—yes, Satan my be misleading the entire inhabited world, but not at the university—they are far too smart for him there.
After the wheel is invented, nobody says it was invented wrong unless they are prepared to invent another one. It may be that all the “improvements” I have in mind, were they ever adopted, would blow everything to Kingdom come. You get your head around the way things are, unless you see a parallel bunch doing everything just so, minus the things he gripes about. Since there is none, it is only modest to conclude maybe that is part of the package—maybe the package is the only way it can be. Maybe if his “reforms” were adopted of a kinder gentler package, the wolves would thank him—“All the better to eat the sheep, my dear,” perhaps they would say.
 
 

If you say, as Rolf does, that the GB has lost their way, are you not implying that you know the way? Otherwise, how do you know that they have lost it? Maybe it just turned out a little more convoluted than you had anticipated.
It seems a very bold claim to make. Everyone has a wish list. I do. On some of the items, I think they are knocking it out of the park. On some other items, I say “I wish they wouldn’t keep doing....”
But never in 1000 years would I frame it as, “the GB has lost its way.” I would confine myself to saying “I didn’t get mine.”
Hopefully for Rolf, he will one day read an article about how “certain well-meaning, but indiscreet, brothers who have....” and nothing further.

Rolf should have come here to sow his oats. Why didn’t he? I can think of at least one that he would have gotten on with just fine—there are others, too, I am sure—and indeed, even I would not append laughing emojis to his each and every post like a rat in a Skinner cage.
Instead, he wrote a book. What is wrong with the fellow? He is now hero to people he cannot abide, since his problem is with the divine/human interface and nothing else whereas they, by and large, want to scrap it all. I mean, who is his target audience? The enthusiasm of ex-JWs at his “new scrolls’ is surely tempered by his staying “true to course” in his own eyes. “Maybe his expulsion will cause him to ‘wake up,‘” someone says hopefully. I don’t think so. He seems to have counted the costs beforehand. He is content to revert to the fellowship of “scientists” and the (they must be relatively few) “elders” who will still chum with him. Maybe the latter are here. The next newbie that I assume is Allen but doesn’t really sound like Allen I will give due scrutiny to.
Does he write his book because he is trying to trigger “reform?” From who? From the airy world of academia that the GB pays no attention to other than to observe that the more prestigious the university the greater the contamination? The guy’s got a screw loose. Jettisoning the brotherhood for the sake of getting in good with the scientists and renegade elders? I could get hit by a bus tomorrow and my brothers would find out about it to lend support in a matter of hours. Billy the Kid, nice as he is, would not learn of it until he read my obituary.

I don’t know why this is so hard. Nobody gets everything they want. The U.S. political system of calling the leader of the other party a jerk works so well that he wants to bring it into the congregation.

People think the Lennon/McCarney song Revolution advocates revolution. Does it?
You say you want a revolution, Well, you know, We all want to change the world...
But when you talk about destruction, Don't you know that you can count me out, Don't you know it's gonna be , All right....
You say you got a real solution, Well, you know, We'd all love to see the plan...
You say you'll change the constitution, Well, you know, We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution, Well, you know, You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Ray, You ain't going to make it with anyone anyway, Don't you know it's gonna be , All right, all right, all right
Got a real solution? Show the plan. But if someone brings his plan to the altar and it is not acted on, what then? Does one become of those who pushes ahead? Or does one free his mind instead and not make a grab for the wheel of the bus? As to getting myself a free copy...
I did. I emailed him. Unfortunately, every malcontent in the world probably did, too—some to laud him and some to express dismay that their own pet peeve has been ignored. He may not want to hear from any of them—since he says that the core doctrines are all true, words that most of them will choke on—most of them want “destruction.” Therefore, I despair of breaking through the pack and securing a free copy.
I may write a lot, have a way with words, and craft them uniquely, but it would be a stretch to call myself a scholar, so I do not do so. “One scholar to another—I’ll drink to that,” said George Patton. Maybe some other scholar can get me in good with him. Or maybe I’ll have to pay up, which doesn’t seem right. Or maybe I’ll just wait to referee the brouhaha that results as others devour it. 
What will be the upshot? Much has changed since the time of Chairman Ray, which was a bit early for me and I’ve never read his book—I barely have to since so many have told me what’s in it. As mentioned before, what is the tone of this book? Is it a call for “revolution” or does he say to those opposers who want destruction, “count me out.”? Arauna says everything has to be judged in its own historical context, and much has changed in forty years.
He wouldn’t appear on that smug webhost’s site because he was an apostate—surely that’s a good sign—just as I would not appear on Lloyd’s podcast, though he all but begged me to and was nice as pie until he realized I had no intention of doing so, after which he was horrible. Note how this fellow Norwegian self-described apostate oozes contempt that CO’s usually start as “window cleaners”—the same way that Celsus ridiculed the first and second century Christians for being “shoemakers, laborers, and the most clownish of men,” completely forgetting how God is partial toward those people and doesn’t look down upon them at all.
I think there is a scene in Superman in which a battle of titans looms and one of the regular citizen-mortals says, “This is going to be good!” (JTR would know—what a time for him to leave!) That’s what they’re saying at Reddit, now. 

The quote is not mine, but I wish it were:
Future historians will be asked what quarter of 2020 did they specialize in.

Obviously, I meant historians in the new system, looking back on that wicked year of the old. They will be a hounded lot, because they will be trying to recall the things that God say will no longer come up for remembrance—a little like Nimrod’s boys building the tower so as to not be scattered the way God said they should.

Obviously, I meant historians in the new system, looking back on that wicked year of the old. They will be a hounded lot, because they will be trying to recall the things that God say will no longer come up for remembrance—a little like Nimrod’s boys building the tower so as to not be scattered the way God said they should.

The quote is not mine, but I wish it were:
Future historians will be asked what quarter of 2020 did they specialize in.

The quote is not mine, but I wish it were:
Future historians will be asked what quarter of 2020 did they specialize in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah—tell me about it.

I know the original lyric. And I also know something of women.
I once told JTR that I would love to hear from his kids. I begin to think that I would love to hear from yours as well.  

Research from the University of Maryland and Michigan State University confirm the results of a more limited study a couple years ago of the Philly Police Dept—that the race of the officer is not a factor in who gets shot. Yet the MSM would all but have us believe that the entire purpose of the police is to shoot back people. One can only wonder at their motive.
https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Research from the University of Maryland and Michigan State University confirm the results of a more limited study a couple years ago of the Philly Police Dept—that the race of the officer is not a factor in who gets shot. Yet the MSM would all but have us believe that the entire purpose of the police is to shoot back people. One can only wonder at their motive.
https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Research from the University of Maryland and Michigan State University confirm the results of a more limited study a couple years ago of the Philly Police Dept—that the race of the officer is not a factor in who gets shot. Yet the MSM would all but have us believe that the entire purpose of the police is to shoot back people. One can only wonder at their motive.
https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Nothing makes sense because demons are performing their signs and mesmerizing the different violent groups who perceive themselves only as victims. Some atheistically have ordained themselves to bring about a revolution in Bolshevik-style and are funded by the usual subversive front organizations. Other victims do not matter...….. the looted shops, burnt buildings, lost businesses etc. The personality traits exhibited remind us of 2 Tim 3: 1-5... they are fierce and without mercy themselves.
Police are being killed and hurt in the riots (I think 27 killed this year and hundreds hurt - and not much attention in the news).  Police also have families they have to provide for, which makes the present police resignations  and retirements so relevant...….. Yes, there is racial injustice but not all whites, and neither are all police, racist. Reasonableness has left the planet.
The iron and clay in governments are acrimonious...…… and whatever happens in the next election in USA - it will not be accepted by the losing side.  This is how far we have moved down the stream of time. Healing of this wound will not happen quickly - it will keep festering.  People have crossed the mark of peaceful protest. 
They are ready to murder each other - brother kill brother....
 

I didn’t even know that it was within the power of an appeals court to do this—to harshen the sentence. I thought the only role of an appeals court was to determine if the preceding trial had been error-free and fair. Is the real message here that once a Witness is convicted, they had better not think they have the same right to appeal as anyone els.?

I know the original lyric. And I also know something of women.
I once told JTR that I would love to hear from his kids. I begin to think that I would love to hear from yours as well.  

I had no doubt that YOU knew it. But there are some people here from the UK, like @4Jah2me (assuming of course that he is the reincarnation of @John Butler). And, I'm not so sure that they had any groups like the Beatles over in the UK. 😉

I know the original lyric. And I also know something of women.
I once told JTR that I would love to hear from his kids. I begin to think that I would love to hear from yours as well.  

It’s not to the point of hatred—nor even close.

I like the account in which Paul’s accuser gushes on and on about Felix—showering him with insincere praise. When it becomes Paul’s turn, he all but says “Well—you’ve certainly been around for awhile.” Felix was a rotter through and through, and everyone knew it.
“When the governor nodded to Paul to speak, he answered: “Knowing well that this nation has had you as judge for many years, I readily speak in my own defense.” Acts 10:24

He’s on your thread, JWI, not mine.
If it is not important to you, then why ask it?
Look, it is not a bad question.** No need to act as though so pious that a “worldly” thought would never cross your mind. Obviously it has, and it is not a sin to ask about what’s going on. If you don’t know what is going on, then you are ever inclined to say stupid things. Tom Irregardless may have been right, but his knee-jerk response was annoying nonetheless: 
“And to think that Tom Irregardless, when confronted with some news report he didn’t understand, which was almost anything, would dismiss it all with ‘it just goes to show we need the Kingdom!’ How long had he been saying that?”
**I won’t answer it, of course, because I am too pure for that sort of thing—I only think of God. But maybe “worldly” JWI will.