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    • Oh NO , you found us! We are exposed!   Guess what, you can come and throw your nasty bait... I have decided you are not going to get a worthy answer from me. You know it all .......I am stupid....I have been duped! Oh woe is me!!!  Somehow I can happily  live with that! 
    • One quote I found.  " If the meaning of baptism could be boiled down to one word, that word would be identification. Baptism speaks primarily of a personal, public identification with Jesus Christ. " Matthew 28 v 19 NWT "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,o baptizing themp in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, " J W baptism. Baptisms are usually held at assemblies and conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses. At the conclusion of the baptism talk, the speaker will ask the baptism candidates to stand and answer the following two questions in a loud voice: 1. Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ? 2. Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So where are the words in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, " ? And where in the Bible does it say that a person gets baptised into an 'Organisation' ? Should the JW Org use the words that Jesus instructed to be used ?  Now a puzzling question. What actually is a JW Org baptism ? Sound like a stupid question ? Um.  If a baptised JW leaves the Org or is disfellowshipped, they are then shunned. So are they still a Christian ?  Does their baptism still count for anything ?  In the first century it would have been anointed ones that did the baptising. A baptised one, would become a Christian serving God through Christ. There was no IBSA, and no JW Org. (Although some on here try to pretend that the 1st Century Christians were JWs) So who now has the right to baptise ?  Should it be Anointed one's that baptise ? Therefore should it be made clear who are the Anointed ones ? I suppose it would be difficult to know who they are, and to have so few Anointed baptise so many earth wide.  But, by what authority do the Elders baptise ? And is it a true baptism as it is 'into the Org' not as Jesus first directed ? Does anyone else have the right to baptise and would it be recognised as such by God and Christ ? Add to this that if a person is reinstated into JW Org and then, wow, everyone can talk to them again, their original baptism into JW Org is ok, and they don't need to do it again.  How does any of that match up with God's written word ?      
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