Srecko Sostar

Does God have gender?

My bad grammar is my trademark. No one can surpass that. That is how I differ from all fake Srećko :))))

The question of "possessing (certain, particular) knowledge” was raised in Eden. God did not want the “knowledge of good and evil” to come into the possession of Adam and Eve. Whatever that could and should mean. "Being knowledgeable"* could lead to processes that end in failure. Individuals and societies have a great deal of knowledge accumulated over the centuries. And now the world is facing several types of serious disasters, which some say are related to the "use of advanced knowledge" and human character. Advanced knowledge of atoms led to the atomic bomb (today it is an outdated example). The other extreme would be in possessing a smaller range of knowledge and living “in harmony with nature”. Then there might not be catastrophes caused by the human factor, but only those catastrophes that are "normal" processes in nature itself. In the nature that is an integral part of the planet Earth, and which was created by God who actually initiated all these processes, believers would say. Do the “believers” of any denomination have the knowledge that God by His knowledge created a planet that has volcanoes, tsunamis, earthquakes, climate changes that go from great hot to ice ages and so on? And that people will die from something at some point (with or without knowledge of it)? "Part of the world"? We all are part of the same world, no matter of Biblical terminology and using of same terminology for theological and doctrinal reasons. People before us left us a world as it was when we were born, and today we are creating this world as it is and we will leave it shaped according to our “knowledge” for future generations. So each individual is a “part of this world,” not the different one we would like to have in our dreams. * Synonyms: well informedinformedlearnedwith great knowledgewell readwell educatededucatedwidely readeruditescholarlyculturedcultivatedenlightenedawareacquainted withfamiliar withwith a knowledge ofwith an understanding ofconversant withau courant withau fait withskilledexpertcompetentproficientup onup to date withabreast ofat home withno stranger toexperienced inpracticed inwell versed inseasonedinformal:clued up aboutgenned up aboutplugged intoswitched on to

At first I felt weird that someone called Srećko a noisy person. But he calls himself to be noisy, not me. Because he could use the name Noisy Tom, for example. That wouldn’t bother me, hahaha. So let him call himself whatever he wants. There is no insult to anyone. This explains what he mean about self and his position, role at this forum club. Some in America would say, the show must go on.

Perhaps HS working better in Capitalist environment, and maybe because of that fact there is not spy elders in JW congregations. :))) But HS obviously have big problem in Communistic territory because Party have more interest how to assimilate or put under control JW members. :)))

I am not sure what you spins now? I have another perception and understanding about this topic...from the start. Focus is on HS and his/her/it role in WTJWorg and elections and appointments of JW elders.

The first record of organized taxation comes from Egypt around 3000 B.C., and is mentioned in numerous historical sources including the Bible. ...(internet source). Christian ideology/doctrine supports the tax system of the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus and the apostles, as can be seen from biblical quotations. But, what this have with @ By Isabella's topic?

What is capitalism without communism, and vice versa? Both ideologies need their own enemy. And they found it in the other one. Some say that Jesus was the “first communist” because he aspired to general equality (“you are all brothers”) and the abolition of all ideologies that oppress the weaker. As i understand "christian ideology", presented by WTJWorg and JW elders, they think how both ideologies, communism and capitalism are enemies of God and True Christianity aka JW members. So, in their eyes they are equal. Again, both ideologies need own enemy to feed their "bellies" and to seduce people. Similar as with religions.

I would be interested in the interpretation of the JW member, you, what kind of "weapon" is this? Weapons in the form of persecution, imprisonment and killing? Weapons in the form of a state's legislation? Weapons in the form of doctrinal delusion? Or something else?

I do not see your comment as an attempt to prove anything, but as a claim/statement that was directed against @Patiently waiting for Truthway of thinking and feeling.

And what does that prove? JW members have been preaching the same things for decades, when they claim that satan and Adam and Eve are to blame for all the evil. But then they go further and say that we are to blame ourselves for the bad things that happen to us. What is it but constant repetition of the same thing? Yes, we are the ones who can bury the past or keep it alive. But it has been proven that the past repeats (in general) itself over and over again. Good and evil is the everyday of our lives as it is of all generations before us. Isabella can benefit from your comment, because it answers her question in a way that what she is talking about was just a current problem, and that there is no need to worry about it after so many decades.

@Equivocation Our friend SM introduced Capitalism and Communism into this topic :)) Don't ask me.

I like your view. But have to ask what is the mission of WTJWorg?

Your statement is beautifully uttered, but it cannot confirm that your knowledge and belief, in the form you practice, is true or false. It is your personal experience, personal conclusion and personal opinion. As such, it can be tested and verified and accepted or rejected, not only by people (in general) but also by the God you believe in.

Can it be concluded from this statement that Christians are less bothered by Capitalism, and that they would rather be Christians in capitalist countries than in communist ones? That is, that the Capitalist ideology is closer to Christianity than the Communist ideology? :))

GB requests and expects, from the members, that unconditional trust and obedience be given to them and to JW elders. Despite the fact that TTH has stated that everything can be corrupted (tainted by human). It is theoretically beautiful and poetically enchanting. And only that, nothing else. So the question is, do you TTH and every other JW, allow an ordinary JW to have a critical appraisal of GB and elders and their ideas and decisions?

All appointments to various positions and services in the WTJWorg organization are made by people. Every appointment and every removal from the appointment is done by people. I hope this "clarification" will answer your questions about topic.

The symbolism used by the Bible with the animal world is interesting. The same species of animal has two opposite characteristics. Eg. Satan is referred to as the "roaring lion," but the positive characters in the biblical text are also compared to the "lion." The “serpent” is a symbol for Satan, but the “serpent” was the savior for all those Israelites who looked at the bronze serpent idol that Moses placed at God’s command.

The statement from the quoted WT article is very clear and specific. But still it is not strong enough to refute reality. And not just the reality of 1919 and the years after. This article from WT was written, as far as I can see, in 2019. Despite the fact that the entire past of WTJWorg is better seen from 2019, the author unfortunately maintains that Jesus purified WTJWorg in those 5 years, and that he left a pure organization for the future. That future encompasses the present. And what is the present? The present argues that most of WTJWorg’s doctrine and theology, as well as the practice that results from the theoretical teaching of members, has been affected, and still is, by tremendous changes in “knowledge and truth”. Several things can be concluded from this: - that Jesus was not visiting WTJWorg in 1914-1919 -that Jesus did a bad job or had bad disciples -that WTJWorg subsequently ignored the changes that Jesus made -that WTJWorg considered the changes of 1914-1919 obsolete and inaccurate and changed them on its own in the coming decades If “The testing and refinement of God’s people, foretold at Malachi 3: 1-4, was complete.” in the 1914-1919 period, then the mantra that WTJWorg has been trading for decades (the light is shining more and more clearly) is completely wrong. The light shone, supposedly 1914-1919, from Jesus himself. So what more improvements and clarifications should there be after Jesus ’personal conclusion ?? Lies and only more lies comes from WTJWorg.

Refinement periods .... finishing periods .... periods of training. Who and what needs those periods? As the title of the topic itself clearly indicates, alleged “improvements” are something that needs, an organization, that is established by people. Terms like “God’s Word is truth” are often associated with a literal book, and that is the Bible. But it goes on, so the idea is promoted that everything published by WTJWorg is also “God’s Word” or “the truth”. The “Word of God” is not something that can only be tied to a book, the Bible. First of all, the reason why one should be careful with the Bible itself is the large amount of translations of the Bible that are often a source of misunderstanding for today's man. Not to mention that some translations are often times contradictory to each other and promote a particular ideology of a religious community. It follows that "the truth" is not seen or recognized from the book we calls too as "the Word of God." So we have two parallel journeys in “refinement”. One embraces the Bible itself as the Word of God, and the other embraces the doctrines and theology of a particular church, in this case WTJWorg. The questions logically arises: Who claims that "the truth" must undergo "refinement" ??? Why is the "truth" not in itself pure, unquestionable, without a doubt ??? If “truth” needs improvements from people in the 20th and 21st centuries, specifically, from people in WTJWorg, has that kind of “truth” ever been true in the past? Is it today? WTJWorg connects the term “knowledge of the truth” with the Bible obtained by learning according to WTJWorg theology. Such "knowledge of the truth," they say, leads believers to "eternal life." We see that the WTJWorg “truth” needs to be reworked and modified and re-modeled. But not to make their “truth” become true, but to continue the illusion that this organization is the only one on Earth that knows how to come to a “new truth” and a “new light”. At the same time, the organization counts on the loyalty of the members, because only in that way can it continue with the "wandering in the desert", which is only possible if it continues to be financed with financial contributions from naive and deceived members.

Interesting data on the number of members. Scientology originated later, much later than WTJWorg. And it has the same number of members.., even though they don’t preach the JW way.