Srecko Sostar

Why you call my name in vain? :))) Children want to be like adults. Adults want their children to be like themselves or something bigger and better. Children imitate adults and accept suggestions. I think these mentioned children of JW parents are doing what their parents suggested to them. Sometimes it can be nice, cute, funny, fun, delighting adults and the like. This child's letter, which is presented in the topic, has at least two elements. It begins with a good introduction, then turns in a direction that is religiously marked because the child mentions the Bible in a way that is characteristic of religiously oriented people, someone who is engaged in Bible study. In other words, the sentence sounds like it was written by an adult, not a child. This is followed by a completely strange wording that invites the recipient of the letter to go to JWORG. This is where the child's mind, children's openness and naivety completely cease, and the influence of propaganda begins. So, I don’t mind children writing letters to their neighbors at a time when their surroundings are affected by some trouble, if their parents want it. It is a kind of social engagement, though religiously colored. Everyone is looking for their own meaning and purpose of life, their own way out of the problem. Given that this is related to WTJWorg, then this kind of action through letters can only be seen as a way of acting of a religious organization and its members who stopped going from house to house and found a substitute way of preaching.

Thank you. Every man has his nights and days.

Verse is great, but WTJWorg context makes it less great.

Good explanation, for sure. But please, don't forget that we are dealing with a religious system in which rank and file need to "know" who teachers and representatives are. That is, to express ourselves in WTJWorg jargon, who is the "channel" through which "all truth and knowledge" comes. ". In this "channel" members should have confidence, trust (statements from GB+Helpers members on JWTV and in publications). Also this channel is “the only one authorized by God and Jesus”, as JW's believe, to give lessons, interpretations and direction. In this and such context we have to deal with your fine observation and explanation.

To seek "freedom" from courts for oneself and one's own interests also means to recognize such the same freedom for those with whom one ideologically disagrees. We know what the content of JW’s beliefs is about other ideologies. Different and opposite ideologies will have no "freedom" in the "New World", but will be "deleted". There are principles in everything. You made erroneous conclusion. Yes, the Organization can seek to evade obligations with the help of semantics. Also the Organization can semantically justify what it previously refused to do. It’s a successful way that you use too.

.. strong words. Opposers argue is garbage? People's motive are garbage? Suggests that people with such emotions are garbage? JWTV replica?

I agree with the explanation you gave, supported by life situations and the possible reasons why this is happening. So, I see this: People, members, seek guidance and help from those they think are “closer to God,” that they are “more spiritual,” that they “know more,” etc. We need to ask ourselves how this situation comes about. Is it because of the existence of a "hierarchy", the doctrine that there are "classes" within the assembly. FDS class and non-FDS class. The clergy class and the lay class. As much as WTJWorg declaratively denies the existence of such differences, it still exists in JW assemblies. Clergy "exist" to give support and answer to members of laity. That is how is in all religion, so why we would expect to be different in JW church? On the other hand, those who give "answers" to layman's questions have created a climate in which it is "normal" for laymen to ask, and "normal" the clergy know the answers to everything. And clergy wants to know the answers to everything even when they don't really have an answer, even if they don't need to know the answer, nor if do they need to give an answer for what doesn't concern them. Also, Bible don't speak about things that Watchtower's "our readers ask", study editions or BOE articles answering. Private opinions made by "spiritual men" have to stay private opinions ....not teachings and doctrines and instructions.

Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it? Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.

First Christians suffered and died for principles and died with thoughts how it is not justified what Caesar doing. WTJWorg are not willing to "suffer and die" for same reasons, because "cost of operating" depend on money not on God blessings.

WTJWorg still have their lawyers. Perhaps they will give suggestion to GB; "We can sue Australia for this" :)))

JW congregation does not have "Sunday School" and children are responsible(responsibility) of parents. But it seems how parents are not only one who "teaching own children", but MS and Elders are involved in this practice too, not only in Australia and not only in those states where this is obligated/legislated. Ok, than we see not only domestic/family program of teaching religious things to children, but Institutional Program/Settings with MS and Elders involved.

Apologize for reading this incorrectly. It is very similar to "worth nothing".

As i understand @Anna commented this is fake news. What do you think @Isabella ?

Thanks for fed back information

Ok. And what are your expectations about me and my comments? Perhaps other people have different view than you and will find it is acceptable to/for them. How you came to such perspective, that i imagine something about myself? You don't have to answer, it is just my incidental thought. More important is, how does your "analysis" of me contribute to the matter we are talking about?

WTJWorg The administration has changed its mind? On what grounds and motives? Some are mentioned in the article (money issue). Indeed, we can speak of the hypocrisy of those who are the “leaders” of this organization. Arguments by some to justify non-cooperation were that the CSA was not “institutional violence” but “domestic violence” (Holly Folk from Cesnur) or that WTJWorg had no “institutional setings” with which to participate in reddress.

Is there any particular reason for us to discuss more about other religions and organizations at the JW Open Club? Current and former members gathered here to exchange opinions, views, beliefs, experiences ....,

Not my striving, just observation and some sort of thinking about issue. Let me explain, please. Who was inspired in the 1st century? Christians? Which Christians? Every Christian? Only Writers of Letters and Books of Bible? Men, women, children? Missionaries? Elders? Etc. WTJWorg said how "gifts of miracles" aka "inspiration" stopped in 1st Century. But the expressions of the spirit in the first assembly were not the only in "miraculous works." What about teachings? JW members are said First Christians to have had wrong predictions and expectations, thus trying to justify the wrong doctrines for today’s GB and JW. Were the apostles "guided by the spirit" or inspired by the spirit? " How did they work "miracles"? Under "guidance or inspiration"? WTJWorg publications using verse: Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement,*+ but test the inspired statements* to see whether they originate with God,+ for many false prophets have gone out into the world. - 1 john 4 1 ... and teach members to using these in everyday life to not be deceived. How will JW recognize the inspired expression? How will JW test the inspired expression? How will JW refuse to believe in an inspired expression? .... if he himself is not inspired to be able to see the difference? How will an uninspired individual cope with an inspired expression? So it’s not about my insistence on the topic, it’s about how to recognize truth from lies. Is it easier / harder to recognize an uninspired lie or an inspired lie? :))

Can the use of these biblical passages, to unimportant individuals like me, be applied to GB because they adopted doctrines that later turned out to be wrong (false). This can be explained in two ways, which you would, I would say, “suggest through the first few minutes of the video”: 1) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the outside and 2) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the inside.

.. how they approached truth ... ... word of god as something outside of them .... .. they approach the truth of god as something inside them ... ... subjectivity leads to all kinds of mistakes ... ----------------------------- Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”[c] 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. - John 7 In which version is it possible to make more mistakes? When are you "guided, lead by the spirit" (GB claim they are guided) or when are you "inspired by the spirit" (GB claim they are not inspired)?

For example; When Moses wrote “under inspiration, things like - ”don’t murder", or when he wrote that "soldiers can have captive virgins and take them if they want but they have to kill all her family before", - I wonder if passing/adoption/writing such regulations requires only influence of "inspiration" or can it be done/achieved in another way, without inspiration.

Well, in case of (when people are in) "doubts" you think how that state is "self-inflicted". In your "case" you explained your position with "self-warranted" which is why you are allowed to do things you would not otherwise approve of (allowed) others. Do these standards you mention have a name by which they can be distinguished?

Obviously we have a different view of the meaning of the term "inspired", but also of the manifestation of the action of the spirit, if / when someone is "inspired". Simply put, "being inspired" does not only mean how someone walks on water or speaks a language they have never learned, walks through a wall and the like.

Yes, a wonderful thought indeed, BUT, even JWs on here don't seem to believe in miracles anymore. One of most indicative "miracles" is to be "inspired by God (HS)". GB deny every possibility that individual or group of people can be "inspired" by God today.

I don't know how JW member (not only you dear Cesar) can so repetitively, resolutely and drastically advocate a position that is contrary to the public proclamation of WTJWorg and even more important to the teachings of Jesus ?!