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Public preaching program shows elements when JW people take stand for "Kingdom" and against "World". JW's are against this World because of their deeds. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19 Does JW want the world to be saved, to change its deeds/actions? Yes, because For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 Neutral = impartial = uninterested Well, does this mean that JW's are uninterested for this world? Mainly yes. Public preaching is of only interest for JW's regard world and secular community. And about human rights on their religious activity.

I SUGGEST, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TO STAY FOCUSED ON "1975 DEBACLE" OR ANY OTHER "ARMAGEDDON DEBACLE" IN WTJWORG. With this comment i will end my participation about "gay issue" :)) I’m Attracted to the Same Sex—Does That Mean I’m Gay? Not at all! Fact: In many cases, same-sex attraction is nothing more than a passing phase. But what if your attraction to the same sex seems to be more than a passing phase? Is it cruel of God to tell someone who is attracted to the same sex to avoid homosexuality? If you answered yes to that last question, you should know that such reasoning is based on the flawed notion that humans must act on their sexual impulses. The Bible dignifies humans by assuring them that they can choose not to act on their improper sexual urges.—Colossians 3:5. The Bible’s stand is not unreasonable. It simply directs those with homosexual urges to do the same thing that is required of those with an opposite-sex attraction—to “flee from fornication.” (1 Corinthians 6:18) The fact is, millions of heterosexuals who wish to conform to the Bible’s standards employ self-control despite any temptations they might face. Those with homosexual inclinations can do the same if they truly want to please God.—Deuteronomy 30:19. -https://www.jw.org/ase/bible-teachings/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/ If someone says: “Homosexuals can’t change their orientation; they’re born that way.” You might reply: “The Bible doesn’t comment on the biology of homosexuals, although it acknowledges that some traits are deeply ingrained. (2 Corinthians 10:4, 5) Even if some are oriented toward the same sex, the Bible tells Christians to shun homosexual acts.” ✔ Suggestion: Rather than get ensnared in a debate about the cause of homosexual desires, emphasize that the Bible prohibits homosexual conduct. -https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201012/explain-bibles-view-of-homosexuality/ Same source of spiritual knowledge and guidance with advice for JW members - You might reply: “The Bible doesn’t comment on the biology of homosexuals, explains this issue in different way: nor men kept for unnatural purposes (1 Cor 9)– Awake 1997 Dec 8 pp.14-15 Christian cannot excuse immoral behavior by saying he was ‘born that way.’ But can anyone deny that their sexual appetite is perverted? – Awake 1995 Feb 8 p.16 Here Paul specifically condemned both male and female homosexuality. He condemned homosexual practices as unnatural and “obscene. - Awake 1995 Feb 22 p.14 And again, as in the case of homosexuality, the Bible views it as a crime worthy of the death penalty – Awake 1982 Jun 22 p.10 We can be grateful that God does not change his standards just to satisfy the passing fancies or perverted desires of men.– Awake 1989 Jul 8 p.27 It seems how WTJWorg try to be closer for public and potential new members in a way that omits significant elements of one’s own attitudes, which are based on the Bible. In same time they send public message -"The Bible doesn’t comment on the biology of homosexuals ... but we know what Bible thinks about this sort of people." In their magazines WTJWorg gave Bible proof how homosexuality is unnatural and by that Bible does comment on the biology, so how/why GB gives advice to JW members to say: The Bible doesn’t comment on the biology of homosexuals ?

Robert Luccioni "morning worship" or morning manipulation and damage control, quote: "Wicked men and impostors would also inflame statements that people did not understand ...." GB blamed in past and blame today own members because they "inflame" WT statements in publications. Do readers of this WT magazines need to, at all, to "inflame" what was already "inflamed"?? about 1941 and 1975?? Never was there a more moving Sight in these "last days". Many, including strong men, wept at the demonstration. Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided Instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon. What a gift I and to so many! The manner of releasing the new book Children was an outnght surprise to all, but the almighty hand of the All-wise One, Jehovah, was in it, and the maneuver was most blessed indeed. Thereafter Children, the author's edition, was disposed of to adult conventioneers, on a contribution. Watchtower 1941 September 15 Page 288 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- “Does God’s rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man’s existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfillment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the “time of the end”.”Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20 “The immediate future is certain to be filled with climactic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these “last days” will undergo fulfillment.” Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.272 “The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the “last days” have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God.” Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.13 “If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the “last days” in 1914, Jesus foretold: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.”-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!” Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

copy/paste from @4Jah2me topic: Social Services Minister Anne Ruston said institutions facing an application for redress were expected to join the scheme. Jehovah's Witnesses, Kenja Communications and the Lakes Entrance Pony Club are some of the groups holding out. "We've been extremely disappointed in the behaviour of the Jehovah's Witnesses," the minister told ABC radio on Friday. "We have spent a lot of time trying to explain to them what we think is their moral obligation to participate in this scheme but they have to date declined to do so." Survivors can't be given redress unless the institution they were abused by has joined the scheme. WTJWorg is "morally neutral" :)) as in same-sex marriage issue ?? It seems how "redress" is also about "political issue" and not "moral issue" ??!! ... or, it is only about "money issue"? :))

Before I call you a downright "liar" please share this new insight. Maybe its just another thing you don't understand or are confused about. But, show which publications suggest it and show which congregation has gays that have not transformed and rejected that lifestyle (repented) to Serve God as instructed by Christ. If you can't, I will not sully myself with your ingenious comment from this point. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/teenagers/ask/is-homosexuality-wrong/ In this article that is published for all to see, we can make agree on what i was commenting. Few quotes for evidence: In reality, God’s standards apply to all people, whether they have homosexual desires or heterosexual desires. Does that mean the Bible promotes hatred of gays? No. In fact, the Bible doesn’t promote hatred of anyone—gay or straight. Rather, it tells us to “pursue peace with all people,” regardless of their lifestyle. (Hebrews 12:14) So it’s wrong to engage in bullying, hate crimes, or any other type of mistreatment of homosexuals. Does that mean that Christians should oppose laws that allow same-sex marriage? The Bible shows that God’s standard for marriage calls for the union of one man and one woman. (Matthew 19:4-6) However, discussions of human laws on same-sex marriage relate to a political issue, not a moral one. The Bible tells Christians to remain politically neutral. (John 18:36) Therefore, they neither advocate nor oppose governmental laws involving same-sex marriage or homosexual conduct. But what if someone who wants to follow God’s standard still has homosexual urges? As with any urge, a person can choose not to nurture or act on those urges. How? The Bible says: “Keep walking by spirit and you will carry out no fleshly desire at all.”—Galatians 5:16. Notice that the verse doesn’t say that the person will have no fleshly desire. Instead, armed with a good spiritual routine of Bible study and prayer, he or she will have the strength to resist those desires. It is interesting to read how author of article said this: However, discussions of human laws on same-sex marriage relate to a political issue, not a moral one. Really? WTJWorg are not to ready to make "discussion of human laws", but see themselves so fit to tell, to preach to all people in the World, how all "secular governments" that exists today are from devil and will be destroyed because they are evil. But GB see themselves as "neutral" with all JW members who are also "neutral" as GB is, about "sex issue". :)) If WTJWorg and JW's are "neutral" to comment "human law about same-sex marriage because that is not MORAL ISSUE, as they say, than it is proper to ask: Who or what is the “moral vertical” in WTJWorg? Isn’t GB as “representatives” and “advocates,” an “ambassadors” of God’s interests here on Earth? Is it not God's interest to promote the values of "higher" moral? Is “same-sex marriage” only "law issue"? In your opinion please, Is it "sex" a moral issue or law issue? Is it "marriage" a moral issue or law issue? Being gay, Is it a matter of morality or law, or is it outside, beyond discussion in that way? Being gay, Is it just a matter of your own choice or is it determined by other circumstances and conditions ? WTJWorg The book "Young people ask" says this: So it’s wrong to engage in bullying, hate crimes, or any other type of mistreatment of homosexuals. ... Therefore, they neither advocate nor oppose governmental laws involving same-sex marriage or homosexual conduct. How GB can advocate the "moral question of same-sex marriage" before the secular governments"? Perhaps collective writing and sending Letters to governments and secular authorities would be answer :))) Part two: In previous article we have seen a rather tolerant explanation. but WTJWorg published many more about "issue". So we can find different sort of talk from same "source/mouth": abhorrent, sexually degrading, unnatural, sordid – WT 2012 Mar 15 p.31 an unnatural sexual perversion – Awake 1997 Dec 8 pp.14-15 sick and perverted – Awake 1995 Feb 8 p.16 gruesome, violent, and downright sadistic.” Awake 1995 Feb 22 p.14 disgraceful sexual appetites, obscene – True Peace p.15 worthy of the death penalty – Awake 1982 Jun 22 p.10 perverted desires – Awake 1989 Jul 8 p.27 detestable to Jehovah, vile, repulsive – WT 1979 Mar 15 pp.10,11 Determining Whether a Judicial Committee Should Be Formed. - 11. Evidence (testified to by at least two witnesses) that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or in the same house with a known homosexual) under improper circumstances.—If questions are raised regarding Scriptural freedom to remarry, see 12:12. An entrenched practice of viewing, perhaps over a considerable period of time, abhorrent forms of pornography that is sexually degrading. Such pornography may include homosexuality (sex between those of the same gender),... It is equally wrong for a man or woman to watch two women engaged in homosexual activity as it is for a man or woman to watch two men engaged in homosexual activity.—See 12:14-15. - Shepherd Book WTJWorg is "neutral"?? :))

This is what JW people need to hear. 100 up votes for this!

I don't care about WTJWorg. But it is interesting to see, analyze and show what they are speaking and doing. Perhaps that will help other people to see the truth behind "the truth". WTJWorg and GB already accepted "gay rights" inside some specific WT rules. As to my knowledge, JW can be gay/lesbian and part of congregation but he/she is not "allowed to practice his/her propensity". If that is true, some percentage of JW's are homosexuals.

The Lord’s supper is the term used to describe an arrangement that Jesus instituted on the night of his betrayal. In brief, it consists of a Scriptural discussion, the giving of thanks and the partaking of bread and wine. Some refer to it as the Eucharist, because of Jesus’ “giving thanks” on that occasion. It is also referred to as the Communion and the Mass. Doubtless, the most fitting of all names for it is “the Lord’s evening meal.”—1 Cor. 11:20. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1959205

- strong core - 2 tim 3 14,15 .... from whom he learned teaching - wicked man and impostors would twist Jesus words - generation teachings - constantly repackage Jesus teachings - spiritual foundational muscles - dogmatic statements we made in past - - etc. etc RL speaking about wicked man and impostors that would twist Jesus words. What was Jesus' words about, for example, "generation"?? Only what we can read in Gospels. Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Mat 24:34 And He stopped at that point! Who did constantly repackage Jesus words about "generation"? WT and GB! Period! We are witnesses of at least 3 crucial changes on "generation" interpretations. Please, JW's "strong core" depending very much on Teachers from which they primary heard "the word", is one of element RL speaking about. WT Teachers from Russell to nowadays ...they have changed. Various Teachers and JW got/have various spiritual food. So, this famous "spiritual core" he want to highlight, was different for various generations of JW's. Various generation of JW's are/were not UNITED in one and same Teaching in this time period from 19th century until today. Are they UNITED with Teachings from 1st Century?? And look the miracle. Different, even opposite "spiritual core" that is needed for "spiritual foundational muscles" is based on one, single and same, never changed Jesus' words about "generation". Or about any other Jesus' teachings. But in WTJWorg World everything is possible. To be extracted different and various "divine" teachings from ONE and SAME Bible verse about word "generation" in Mat 24:34. Who are "wicked man and impostors" inside WTJWorg that (would) twists Jesus words and constantly repackage Jesus teachings? Ex-JW aka apostates? :))) or GB+Helpers+Elders? ?? desanitize = To remove the cleanliness from something; to dirty. To make unsanitary. WTJWorg past and present is mixture of clean and unclean things. Is that what RL is trying to explain?? ... one day we may hit the time whether personally or as organization when all the other peripherals are gone, all the extras (conventions, TV, videos, music WT articlec etc). What will they have left, to JW's, when traditional and peripherals spiritual elements gone? They will be left with "old questionable spiritual food" ... as in all the years, decades before.

I would not say something like that, of course and for sure ...., and you are neither forecaster nor prophet able to know what i will say next :))

Such a flippant remark, It seems how our friend @TrueTomHarley speaking how it is "normal" to be deceived with "end-date call". I can agree with reality how always exists individuals or groups who are masters in deceiving and manipulation of other people. And we all can be their victims. JW members are not first and not last people who were/are/will be successfully deceived with "end-date call". But it is also true how WTJWorg leaders aka GB, supported and associated in collaboration with with Elders, very successfully from generation to generation of JW members, keep in force, maintain all those expectations about Armageddon. At the same time, they accuse unnamed individuals/members of being guilty of erroneous expectations and interpretations of the text in publications and public speeches. GB members with the help of the administrative apparatus (Helpers, Elders), place possible outcomes based on interpretations of the biblical text. GB are flippant (or not?) and members are flippant. Thanks to God some of us escaped from such condition.

I am completely agree with conclusion in Your first/second sentence. Up vote :)) However, I’m not sure what it means, generally, and/or what do You mean with; to have the right or wrong attitude when it comes to "wanting and expecting that something (promises from Bible or God or GB) to be fulfilled in our lifetime".

How were Jehovah's Witnesses taught in 1941 about Armageddon? And marriage/children? Does that remind you of 1975? Or of some periods of time in JW teachings before and after these years? Don’t be bored and find it difficult to review the statements written in the main magazine The Watchtower, the 1941 edition. And the newly published book of the same year by the President of the Society, Judge Rutherford. The book is called Children. The author dedicated this book, as well as many others, to the Creator. Today, after such a long time lag, we may ask, could all these doctrines and teachings have been accepted by the Creator to whom they were dedicated? And we may ask many more! So, do you ready? Put on your seat belt! WT magazines quotes about Armageddon in the year 1941 All the physical facts now indicate the battle of Armageddon is quite near, when the real fighting takes place and the enemy will be destroyed. January 1 Page 10 They see the evidence corroborating scriptures that Armageddon is very near, when God will avenge the wrongs of his people. January 1 Page 11 THAT THE RELIEF and blessings of the peoples of earth can come only by and through Jehovah's kingdom under Christ, which has now begun; January 15 Page 2 It therefore appears to be certain that Armageddon, that great battle of God Almighty, is near at hand. January 15 Page 19 When will Jehovah put an end to wickedness in the earth' The Scriptures answer that at the time 'when the wicked spring up like grass and the lawless flourish'. That is now, because never was there so much wickedness on earth; and that means that Armageddon is very near. (Ps. 92: 7,8 ) February 1 Page 44 This Testimony Period, covering the month of April, will be world-wide, and brings to a climax the three-month campaign With The Watchtower. Those looking for the early appearance of "the sign" for Armageddon to begin will not slack the hand in this final month of the campaign, but rather intensify their efforts, and unquestionably more Theocratic publishers will enter the field. March 15 Page 2 The prophetic song therefore foretold the "strange work" of Jehovah now in progress and which takes place just preceding the battle of Armageddon, and that battle is now quickly to follow. April 1 Page 99 Particularly since 1931 the worldly rulers have been served with notice of warning, and now the remnant of Jehovah's witnesses and their companions will do what they can for the people of good-Will that they may hear the message and take their stand. While darkness covers the world, Jehovah continues to turn his light upon his faithful ones, giving them a more wonderful vision of his Word than they ever expected to have while on the earth. This strongly suggests that the battle of Armageddon is near. April 1 Page 109 Jehovah's witnesses are now thoroughly hated by all such opposers, and they would find some apparently legal excuse to destroy Jehovah's Witnesses. There is still some witness work to be done amongst the people, and preparation is now being made for the final plague to be visited upon Satan's organization at Armageddon. April 15 Page 122 Jehovah told Moses that the death of the firstborn would take place at midnight, this to mean, in the modern-day fulfillment, at a time of the world's blackness or darkest period. The blackness of darkness is now upon the world, and must continue until Armageddon April 15 Page 123 The time is short now till the universal war of Armageddon, and the privileges are great beyond the description of human words. May 15 Page 159 Now, before Armageddon, which is near, they have the opportunity of wholly devoting themselves to the Lord and entering upon the "highway", and, continuing faithful, may ''be hid in the day of the Lord's anger" at Armageddon and thus be of the "great multitude" of Armageddon survivors. June 15 Page 189 , and that all who have learned of Jehovah and his kingdom and have then forgotten God and turned away to the "beggarly elements" of the world, and also all who fail and refuse to hear and obey God and his King, shall go down at Armageddon, which is near. July 1 Page 202 The fact that in all the nations Jehovah's witnesses are now hated and persecuted is strong circumstantial evidence that the witness work is about completed and that Armageddon is very near. July 1 Page 202 The evildoers are headed for destruction. The lot of the evil or wicked is most undesirable and is shunned by all persons who desire righteousness. The end of the wicked is near. Their time is short. The day of Armageddon is near, and at that time all who remain on Satan's side shall suffer destruction. The lot of those who have fled to the THEOCRATIC ORGANIZATION is the blessed one. July 15 Page 218 The righteous Ruler is Christ Jesus, and his work first performed as King is to cause a witness to be given in the earth of and concerning the kingdom of righteousness, and then to completely oust the wicked from rule, and this he will do at Armageddon; and all the facts and the Scriptures show that that great event is near at hand. August 1 Page 229 At Armageddon, which is near, Christ Jesus, the great King now present, will destroy the wicked, clear them off the earth, and make the way for righteousness and righteous rule to ever thereafter follow. August 1 Page 235 ..because already his power had been exhibited in another manner at the Flood, which was prophetic of the battle of Armageddon now at hand. August 1 Page 239 "CHILDREN" Announced and released Sunday morning, August 10, at the Theocratic Assembly of Jehovah's witnesses m St. Louis, Mo., and at the conclusion of the climax speech on "Children of The King", the new book Children won instant acclaim from the thousands assembled. Written by Judge Rutherford, Children bids fair, as shown by Its mitial reception at St. Louis, to be his most popular book, and with good reason. It is written m narrative and conversational style, presenting interestingly and simply the latest Bible truths concerning the glorious hope early to be realized by the persons of good-will today living. Children is bound in sky-blue cloth, with an embossed, gold-stamped cover design that is unusual. The text within is adorned with frequent color illustrations, and is supplemented with an index of subjects. You will prize the author's edition as it contains the facsimile of a special letter in the author's own hand and addressed "To the Children of the King". You may obtain it on a contribution of 50c a copy, mailed prepaid to you. This edition is limited. September 1 Now the nations of the earth are in the throes of death, and soon Armageddon, the battle of that great day of God Almighty, will be fought, and in which Christ shall be completely victorious, pushing out and destroying every wicked thing. September 1 Page 263 Since Armageddon is near at hand it would seem wise for those who hope to be of the "great multitude", and therefore to fulfill the divine mandate, to wait upon the Lord and seek his direction and ask him to guide them and make selection of a companion. September 1 Page 264 A Christian can now, before Armageddon, refuse to sympathize with or support in any way the Devil's organization which shall be completely destroyed at Armageddon. September 1 Page 271 Cartons of Children that had been deposited in The Arena were now opened, and Judge Rutherford instructed the children how to come and each get a copy thereof, those in the rear half of The Arena marching in two columns out through a side exit, and those in the front half of The Arena marching up over the platform and out through a rear exit. As the march began, the orchestra (minus all its children instrumentalists) struck up and rendered songs, "Children of the Heavenly King," "The Sword of the Lord and of Gideon," and "Who Is on the Lord's Side'" while the vast audience sang. Never was there a more moving Sight in these "last days". Many, including strong men, wept at the demonstration. Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided Instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon. What a gift I and to so many! The manner of releasing the new book Children was an outnght surprise to all, but the almighty hand of the All-wise One, Jehovah, was in it, and the maneuver was most blessed indeed. Thereafter Children, the author's edition, was disposed of to adult conventioners, on a contribution. September 15 Page 288 The great battle of Armageddon is approaching ...... That will be done in the great time of trouble at Armageddon, which is impending. October 1 Page 302 The declaration of the day of his vengeance is one part of the commission he gives to his anointed witnesses; therefore these anointed ones, in order to be faithful, must perform that commission now before Armageddon.-Isa. 61: 1, 2. October 15 Page 318 All the physical facts now indicate the battle of Armageddon is quite near, when the real fighting takes place and the enemy will be destroyed. Soon Jehovah God through Christ Jesus will fight against the enemy as he did In time~ of old, and will completely cut to pieces the enemy, and deliver all those who remain faithful and true to Theocracy. October 15 Page 319 Regardless of the incoming of willter then, December marks another month-long season of special united activity known as "Great Multitude" Testimony Period. Those persons of good-will who shall form part of the "great multitude" of Armageddon survivors are now quickly coming forth are the wintertime of Armageddon sets in on the world, and they will, in increasing numbers, take part with the remnant members in this united Testimony. November 1 While no man yet knows the day nor the hour that Armageddon will begin, "the signs of the times" show that Armageddon is very near; therefore Jehovah bids his faithful servants now on the earth to 'redeem the time' and to 'slack not the hand' in his "strange work", the witness work....... In the meantime, and from now till Armageddon, the Lord's four angels hold back the four winds until the work of Jehovah's "sealed" servants is finished.- Rev. 7: 1-4. November 1 Page 325 The entire movement of Satan's crowd is carried on to the end that the Hierarchy and their allies may soon be able to say, "Peace and safety"; then will follow Armageddon. November 1 Page 327 All nations hate Jehovah's covenant people because that people declare the name and kingdom, The THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENT, of Almighty God. "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake."-Matt. 24: 9. OT The crucial test, which must persist until Armageddon, is proof that now is the last time. November 1 Page 330 Because of the importance to the covenant people of God, individually and collectively, and because of the great opportunity to glorify God, now that the hour is approaching for the great and final visitation of Jehovah God upon the nations of the earth at Armageddon, every one of his devoted people is urged to put forth the greatest possible zeal and earnestness in the representation of his Theocratic Government. November 1 Page 335 God's visitation upon the nations will reach a climax in the great time of trouble, Armageddon, now near. November 15 Page 351 Book CHILDREN, published in 1941 All the facts show that the woes beginning in 1914 have continued to increase upon the earth, and at the present time the distress and woes are greater than ever before known, and this indicates that Armageddon is very near.-Revelation 16: 13-16. Page 151 Since 1925 particularly Jehovah's witnesses have carried the kingdom message and placed it within the hearing of the people, which message tells of the day of vengeance of our God, and that it is very near. Page 208 Armageddon, the battle of that great day of God Almighty, is drawing near. Page 253 In the near future the wrath of Almighty God against all wickedness will be expressed at Armageddon in the most devastating tribulation the world will ever have known. Page 336 Armageddon is surely near, and during that time the Lord will clean off the earth everything that offends and is disagreeable. Page 366 Should men and women, both of whom are Jonadabs or "other sheep" of the Lord, now marry before Armageddon and bring forth children They may choose to do so, but the admonition or advice of the Scriptures appears to be against it. Being married before Armageddon and both continuing faithful and surviving Armageddon, their marital relationship shall continue and persist after Armageddon. They receive their right to life everlasting after Armageddon, and after receiving that right to life their children then born would be born in righteousness. Page 312 That would appear to indicate it would be proper that those who will form the"great multitude" should wait until after Armageddon to bring children into the world. Page 313 (similar advice was in the '80 too) It is only a few years from the time the "other sheep" are gathered to the Lord until Armageddon. That entire period is a time of much tribulation, concluding with the greatest tribulation the world will ever have known. Speaking of that very time, Jesus says: "Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!"-Matthew 24: 19, 21. Page 313 PS Apologize for some grammar errors cause of copy/paste from PDF.

Left half of brain is for UN and right half of brain is against UN? :))

WT writers of Awake magazine using words that shows how UN is/was powerless in many worlds events, wars primarily, but how their work is commendable and how JW members render due respect to UN as any other government because they are here with God's permission and how some form of government is necessary to maintain order and law in society. The Awake magazine using Bible verses that are, that have wide application. Read this please: Clearly, the United Nations does not have the ability to bring world peace. Its members and supporters are all imperfect humans, notwithstanding their lofty goals. The Bible says that “to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.” (Jeremiah 10:23) Furthermore, God warns: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.”—Psalm 146:3. Two facts are supported with Bible verses which are "a double-edged sword". One edge is for UN and other edge is for GB. First, earthly man is unable to direct his steps, and second, do not put your trust in man. And what JW members can learn from this? If they listen better to what anyone is telling them on JWTV, then they will wonder why GB leaders are inviting their members to show them their trust and why GB thinks that they are able to manage/direct their own steps? Did the UN “accomplish these aims”? Did it get the nations to unite their strength and maintain peace and security? No, not so far, although the UN has sincerely tried to be a significantly better way than the League of Nations....Jehovah’s Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting. And the results will have a far-reaching impact on your life. We urge you to ask Jehovah’s Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter. The Bible clearly paints a picture showing that the United Nations will very shortly be given power and authority. The UN will then do some very astonishing things that may well amaze you. And you will be thrilled to learn that there is yet a better way near at hand that will surely bring eternal peace and security! - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101991643 For 50 years the United Nations organization has made notable efforts to bring about world peace and security. Arguably, it may have prevented a third world war, and the wholesale destruction of human life through the use of nuclear bombs has not been repeated. The United Nations has provided millions of children with food and medicine. It has contributed to improved health standards in many countries, providing, among other things, safer drinking water and immunization against dangerous diseases. Millions of refugees have received humanitarian assistance. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995720

And ... Elders making decisions is repent in same measure, corresponding to the gravity of sin. Do i need to search on what page of Shepherd book is this instruction or you already have knowledge about it?

Does this mean how you also do collect old WT publication from '80 for same reasons?

Fifth picture shows another confirmation how criteria for NGO have not been changed since 1991.

Fourth picture shows how you don't need to be NGO for Library Pass.

Third picture shows UN letter in 2004, with repeated explanation and showed that Main Representative of WT to the UN, Giro Aulicino requested termination of its association with DPI.

Second picture confirms what was criteria in the year 1991/92. Confirmation was made in a UN response letter in 2001.

First picture shows what was criteria in the year 1991/92. According to text: 1) NGO is to help the build public understanding and support for UN programs and goals 2) NGO must have national or international standing 3) NGO must have to support the Charter of UN 4) NGO must have broadly based membership 5) NGO must posses the resources for effective outreach

"Secular sources" i suppose, that means newspapers, various books, science books and magazines, TV, Radio, Internet ...., and own bible scholars contemplation. Which of "5 facts" i presented is most painful for you?

Yes, and that is better than swim. :))

Sanhedrin and Priests and all sects (Sadducees, Pharisees ...,) inside Jew system also "promoted scriptures and the truth". So what if WTJWorg doing "the same" deceiving and manipulation? :)) Should we praise them for that?