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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in SPIRIT-DIRECTED ORGANIZATION   
    "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge" (Rev 20:4)   "If you forgive anyone's sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." (John 20:23). In the context of the last scripture (John 20:22), Jesus showed how, some are authorized to forgive, or not forgive, sins. It reads; "When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit."   It was the breath of holy spirit, which made them qualified priests, to judge. *But who is it, that judges, today?* Is it God's priests, who have received holy spirit from Christ? No. A different identity has been empowered by "breath"/spirit... to do judging. But it is not by "holy" spirit/breath.   In speaking of what the false prophet does... Rev.13:15 reads; "He was granted to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause all who refused to worship the image of the beast, to be killed."   Can you see that the beast, is given authority to judge and execute, those who refuse to idolize the beast's image? Can you see that the "breath"/spirit, and its' authority to judge, come from the false prophet?   Isn't it interesting, that the governing body has declared from its own mouth, that the WT is "spirit-directed" and it's representative body of "elders", are authorized to judge and condemn to spiritual death, those who refuse to worship the image of the WT as of God?   Rev. 13:11, says of the false prophet, "he had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.". Rev.16:13 helps us to know where the false prophet got the spirit that is in its mouth, which authorizes the WT "elder" to condemn those refusing to idolize the organization they represent. It reads; "Then I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming from the dragon’s mouth, from the mouth of the false prophet, and from the mouth of the beast".   Satan's empowerment of this Cult, is repeated in many scriptures (2 Thess 2:3-12; Rev 9:1-3), as well as the effect it has on God's people (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:7,10; Col 2:8). It is amazing how many details of prophecy are being fulfilled, among them (and us), today.   "If any of you has a grievance against another, how dare he go to law before the unrighteous instead of before the saints! Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!" (1Cor.6:1-3) Pearl Doxsey   ****************************************** Just a sidepoint: I was speaking with a friend about Armageddon a while back, and she had recalled reading in an old dictionary, the term “new skin” attached to the meaning of Armageddon. Out of curiosity, I did a bit of research and came across someone’s description of the Bible’s use of frogs in Rev 16:13. (Rev 16:12-14)   But firstly, the demonic expressions coming from the mouth of the dragon, the Beast from the Sea and the false prophet/Beast from the Earth as “frogs”, indicates a gradual shift from what was truth, to a full-fledged lie. This can be related to the life cycle of a frog beginning as an egg, transforming into a tadpole and finishing off as a completely different looking creature. This change can be expressed in doctrinal adjustments called “new light”, throughout the organization’s history. I’m still running across subtle changes evident in the organization’s literature, that for most JWs go undetected, over their gradual development into a complete lie.   Yet, there are other characteristics of a frog to be considered.   They are cold-blooded. Trampling one’s “brother” into submission to a dual ruler-ship, and subsequently passing judgment as spiritually “dead”, is a cold-hearted act developed and practiced in stricter measures today. (John 13:34,35; Matt 24:12; Luke 21:12; Matt 24:48-51; John 16:2; Rev 13:15)    Frogs inhabit both the land and the sea, and are able to “breathe” or absorb oxygen in both elements. “The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Rev 13:1 “Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” Rev 13:11   And this interesting thought; frogs frequently shed their skin, providing a renewed look, while supporting their ability to breathe easily in water. Old skin is pulled off and eaten. “About once a week, frogs shed their skin. The process begins with the frog doing a lot of twisting, bending, and stretching to loosen the old skin. Then the frog pulls the skin over its head like a sweater and -- usually -- eats it.” Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.   The old skin provides the frog with some nourishment, and it is a process of recycling old components to produce new. The organization’s old debunked and modified teachings provided temporary “nourishment” through their life span. How so? Revelation speaks of the Beast from the earth requiring a 'buying and selling' of a restricted diet within its own monopoly of spiritual food. This is produced by the false prophet, that in the long run, only sustains the growth of the idol and those who spearhead its development - the false prophet/Harlot and the Beast she rides. (Rev 8:10,11;13:1,4,7,8,11,16,17; 17:15)    Just as a frog’s old skin disappears, the majority of the younger JWs today are not aware of the old teachings, but only the new progressive format and doctrine. They ‘buy’ into it, with their dedication, service and material goods that sustains the idol/Beast from the Sea. (Rev 13:17)    It takes a lot of “twisting, bending and stretching” for the leaders of the organization to produce new skin, aka “new light”, as the example of the “generation” teaching throughout the years, vividly reveals. 2 Pet 2:1-3     “Announce this to the descendants of Jacob
    and proclaim it in Judah:
    21 Hear this, you foolish and senseless people,
    who have eyes but do not see,
    who have ears but do not hear:
    22 Should you not fear me?” declares the Lord.
    “Should you not tremble in my presence?
    I made the sand a boundary for the sea,
    an everlasting barrier it cannot cross.
    The waves may roll, but they cannot prevail;
    they may roar, but they cannot cross it.
    23 But these people have stubborn and rebellious hearts;
    they have turned aside and gone away.
    24 They do not say to themselves,
    ‘Let us fear the Lord our God,
    who gives autumn and spring rains in season,
    who assures us of the regular weeks of harvest.’
    25 Your wrongdoings have kept these away;
    your sins have deprived you of good. 26 “Among my people are the wicked
    who lie in wait like men who snare birds
    and like those who set traps to catch people.
    27 Like cages full of birds,
    their houses are full of deceit;
    they have become rich and powerful
    28 and have grown fat and sleek.
    Their evil deeds have no limit;
    they do not seek justice.
    They do not promote the case of the fatherless;
    they do not defend the just cause of the poor.
    29 Should I not punish them for this?”
    declares the Lord.
    “Should I not avenge myself
    on such a nation as this? 30 “A horrible and shocking thing
    has happened in the land:
    31 The prophets prophesy lies,
    the priests rule by their own authority,
    and my people love it this way.
    But what will you do in the end? Jer 5:20-31   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. "The Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place" "By this ( love among yourselves ), all will know that you are truly my disciples" “Two Beasts”   “Head wound -vs- Beast wound”  “Generation”  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ARE JWS A "PRIVILEGED" PEOPLE?   
    It seems the circumstances that prompts disfellowshipped JWs to return to the organization are usually after suffering severe hardships from one’s life choices, or the longing to return to family and friends. It could also be the loss of status and recognition no longer received on the outside. Often, it is a combination of all these reasons.   As I listened to a short clip of a circuit overseer’s account relating his choice and experience upon leaving the organization when young, it was apparent that he left for selfish reasons; and, he returned for selfish reasons. There was no awakening to the organization’s falsehoods and hypocrisy, no seeking truth through Jesus Christ, but purely his motivation was to experience the world of drugs and immorality, which brought him to the brink of collapse. This was not the difficult road to finding truth that many experience when leaving the WT, but an alternative fork in Satan’s deceptive world, leading to hardship. (Matt 5:10,11; 7:14)    Before doing this, he had been a regular pioneer, a title that comes with status, and was supported fully by his family through his development process of becoming a baptized JW. He stated his return came with discipline through guidance of ‘loving’ elders. He mentioned that this discipline ‘molded and trained’ him…to accomplish what? As he said; ultimately, he received “privileges and service” that he would never have imagined.   I thought of the frequent use of the word, ‘privilege’ found in the magazines. Just quickly searching for it on the JW website, brought up 3,891 hits. I tend to bristle at the organization’s use of this word, since it relays a sense of superiority, from the elite leadership, down to its members. (Matt 20:26,27; 23:12; Phil 2:3,4)  The apostles and anointed throughout time, suffered affliction repeatedly, while under service to God and their Master. (Acts 7:57-70; 1 Cor 4:11-13; 2 Cor 11:23-29; 1 Pet 4:12; Heb 10:32; 2 Tim 3:12)   The peace and love they experienced was amidst those conditions, which is completely contrary to this man’s experience. Likewise, those who leave this Beast/organization and its “false prophet” to serve the Father whole-souled, suffer persecution from their own spiritual and fleshly family members. Jesus predicted that any who obey his teachings and follow him, would expect such treatment from their own people. (Luke 10:25-28; Matt 5:10,11;10:38; John 15:18; Luke 21:12; John 16:2; Heb 13:13; 2 Tim 3:12; Rev 13:15) 
    The type of privileges and service the overseer and thousands like him enjoy, is not related to serving God; but related to serving men and their disciplinary rules necessary to run an earthly organization – a religious idol. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:1,2,4,11,12,16,17)    The English word, “privilege” can be defined as “a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.” Contrast that with the Bible’s use of the word, “charis” (Rom 12:6) which many translations do define as “privilege”; yet, its primary application is “graciousness…especially the divine influence upon the heart and its reflection in the life; including gratitude”. Basically, it is the gift of divine favor, grace and its benefit. Through the anointed Body of Christ, these gifts of the Spirit benefit all believers in Christ. (1 Cor 12:4-7; 1 Cor 4:1; 2 Cor 5:20; Eph 4:29)    Who bestowed the “privilege” of bearing the title of elder and circuit overseer on this man? God? Although it is said that Holy Spirit plays a hand in deciding who becomes an elder, they are appointed through a system of recommendations by a body of elders and circuit overseers. On the other hand, an anointing by God, which is an appointment of service under Christ, involves no other person but the individual receiving the outpouring of Holy Spirit. (John 15:16; Rom 5:5; 8:16,28; 1 John 2:27; Gal 1:11,12) While this appointment by the Father is both subtly attacked and ignored in the organization, man’s choice of who are to shepherd, is heightened and honored. (Jer 23:1,2)    The circuit overseer calls elders “trained spiritual doctors”. (Jer 8:11) This type of verbiage is just what JWs willingly respond to. I’ve heard many members fully defend the elder body, while giving little notice to the anointed in their congregations, whose spiritual “molding” and training is to be received directly from God and their Head, Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 4:7; Eph 2:10; Phil 2:13; Heb 13:20,21)    Yet, the majority of God’s called ones, also defend the power and privilege of those who rule over them. The “divine influence on the heart” of an anointed one is the receiving of God’s laws as His priest. No JW can see this with their spiritual perception, let alone with their literal eyes; thus, these laws lay unheeded in the anointed heart. An anointed one is not sought after to teach the people. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 8:10) JWs see the training of elders through regulations and protocol outlined by the organization, which takes precedence over the laws of God fulfilled in Christ. (Matt 5:17-20; Mark 7:7,8; Col 2:20,21; Eph 4:14; Gal 1:11,12) This is exactly what Satan desires them to see. (2 Thes 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:1-4)    "When Jesus describes which of his slaves are rewarded in the life to come, he portrays them...
    NOT as men who have already honored themselves or one another....
    but as men that wait for Jesus himself to judge and honor them...when he returns.
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      Now I must tell you, that although Jesus taught us to lower ourselves and not to accept glorifying titles.....
    "Jehovah's Witnesses" ARE GUILTY OF THIS.
    They may not use the title "Reverend", but they do use the titles of "elder", "overseer", Pioneer", etc.
    all of which bestow undeserved honor. To learn FROM THE BIBLE who deserves to be called an "older man" and "overseer", is to realize that those who carry these titles, do so without scriptural backing. They may believe that they fulfill the scriptural qualifications ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) for these titles, but they believe so in their ignorance. They do not dig deep enough into the Bible, to see who these "overseers" really are ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ).  The word "pioneer" or "governing body" is not in the Bible ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ), nor their designations, nor their positions ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ). Pearl Doxsey, "Accepting Titles"   The man in the video said he “poured his heart out to Jehovah” in prayer, wanting to return to him. In truth, his return was to the same spiritually corrupt religious system he had left; this time to rise in rank as an integral element in the “trampling” of God’s Temple priesthood, resulting in truth of God’s Word in Christ, being cast “to the ground”. (Dan 8:10-12;Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3-5; 13:5-7; 11:1,2)  This is also due to God’s priests, bending their backs to those who bear titles approved by men. (Ezek 44:6-9; Mal 2:8,9; Jer 3:12; Hos 14:1,2;Isa 51:1,7; Jer 1:19; 23; 1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10)      Jer 8:4-13 - “Say to them, ‘This is what the Lord says: “‘When people fall down, do they not get up?
    When someone turns away, do they not return?
    5 Why then have these people turned away?
    Why does Jerusalem always turn away?
    They cling to deceit;
    they refuse to return.
    6 I have listened attentively,
    but they do not say what is right.
    None of them repent of their wickedness,
    saying, “What have I done?”
    Each pursues their own course
    like a horse charging into battle.
    7 Even the stork in the sky
    knows her appointed seasons,
    and the dove, the swift and the thrush
    observe the time of their migration.
    But my people do not know
    the requirements of the Lord. 8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
    for we have the law of the Lord,”
    when actually the lying pen of the scribes
    has handled it falsely?
    9 The wise will be put to shame;
    they will be dismayed and trapped.
    Since they have rejected the word of the Lord,
    what kind of wisdom do they have?
    10 Therefore I will give their wives to other men
    and their fields to new owners.
    From the least to the greatest,
    all are greedy for gain;
    prophets and priests alike,
    all practice deceit.
    11 They dress the wound of my people
    as though it were not serious.
    “Peace, peace,” they say,
    when there is no peace.
    12 Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct?
    No, they have no shame at all;
    they do not even know how to blush.
    So they will fall among the fallen;
    they will be brought down when they are punished,
    says the Lord. 13 “‘I will take away their harvest,
    declares the Lord.
    There will be no grapes on the vine.
    There will be no figs on the tree,
    and their leaves will wither.
    What I have given them
    will be taken from them.’”   At  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Where is the "True Religion" -- Christ's Body -- God's Temple?  “Superiority? No..., not for any one of us” - Are Elders Spirit-Appointed? - The Anointing Teaches Truth--How? / The "Refining Pot" / Who should partake, and when? / "Tribulation" Foolish Virgins - Holy Spirit at work / The "Token"     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from 4Jah2me in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    We living all under hierarchy system. We don't know nothing else, from our born. And we all have "problems", or we facing with issue of "equality" through all life, more or less. In all life fields. Including JWorg "spirituality" that can't escape from same problems.
    General picture in JW World is how people who are in some "special" service inside Organization, are in such service because they are "deeply spiritual". That means, "spirituality" is proved by manifestations in material matters. Some working and living in Betel, some spending many hours in preaching, some are elders etc. Ordinary JW feels as some blessing or privilege to be in society with such people. Why we personally feels to be "privileged" if we are invited to help in Betel, to have lunch with them? Or to have them as guests in our home, to have conversation with some of such persons? If we are "equal", how people in such religious group can avoid to consider "friendship" with this specific individuals as "privilege"? Or in any other social group, on our work place etc?
    As @James Thomas Rook Jr. well said we are not "equal", because we all are different and have different characteristic and are different in our "spirituality". Because of age, because of experience, because of our wishes etc.
    Are we all "equal" before God? I want believe we are. But religious system, even "the best" one in WTJWorg :))), proves members are not equal before men, and by that also not before god who has "representatives" in JWorg priesthood class. Don't forget how "priesthood class" aka elders (many in special services of all kind too) are (have to be) the most "spiritual" individuals, not only in the Organization, but also in whole World. We all know that is not real to expect.   
    This is very good thought. We have to be powerful and unique individuals who contributing to welfare for yourself and   all other people in place we are living, and by that to whole World. Thanks @4Jah2me  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Kosonen in My letter today to the WT about God's love   
    @TrueTomHarley If they love God and want to grow in their love to God then all those scriptures I copied from the NWT would be like music to their ears.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    The thought just occurred to me that in our culture, since about the year 1818, there are literary examples of "One Body" made up of many parts, as outlined by Swiss Dr. Victor Frankenstein..
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Matthew 24 v 4 through 8.
     In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  5  for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  6  You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. 7  “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  and there will be food shortages Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  and earthquakes in one place after another. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  8  All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
    Luke 21 v 9 through 11.
     Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.” Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. 10  Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  and kingdom against kingdom. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  11  There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs.
    I think @JW Insider  said that the so called signs were actually just the opposite. They are things not to get excited about, because it gives false hope. 
    And as I've said before Jesus warned against those looking for 'signs'. Looking for physical signs is showing a physical viewpoint not a spiritual viewpoint. 
    Surely there are many things to happen between now and the Judgement. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    I will have to admit, Russian women COULD knock you out!


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    Srecko Sostar reacted to 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    @Arauna  Unfortunately you write emotionally not spiritually, so it is difficult to have a conversation with you.
    Proof of this is such things as :-
    Quote "maybe you are the only person God can use heh?  It seems you think this way...
    How can I answer such things ? If you have read many things that i have written you would know differently.
    Quote " Pride is a blinding sin.  When one judges for God that the spiritual Israelites  he is using are not good enough for you."
    Firstly, it does not seem as if GOD is using anyone right now.  Anthony Morris' comment concerning the Virus is not exactly loving is it ? The Virus is not from God, so why would that GB member be so happy about it ?
    And the CSA issue is of course not so important right now, but it is still there, and still to be answered for.
    And the misuse of scripture, overlapping generations etc...  
    I only judge the GB and the CCJW for my own purpose, so that i can tell if it is the right way to try to serve God. In my eyes it is not the right way to serve God, because it can easily be seen as unclean and sometimes dishonest.  And not least that the GB admit to not having God's guidance. 
    It is no different to you or anyone judging the Catholic Church or any other religion as to if that religion is serving God properly. And lets be honest the CCJW has constantly judged other religions and condemned them. 
    Arauna, you still seem to be putting your faith in those 8 men. So be it, if it suits your needs. But don't be so angry with others that are looking to God through Christ for a true answer. 
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    It is my considered opinion that NO ONE is equal to anyone else, any more than those who are good with whatever it is they DO, are equal to those who are NOT good at whatever it is that they do.
    It is skills applied, whatever talent you have or do not have naturally, that makes us equal (sometimes).
    I struggled for many years to become a skilled photographer in High School, and was one of several  High School Yearbook Photographer for three years, and turned out some pretty crappy work, sometimes, and wasted a LOT of film and photo paper and chemicals.  
    But I knew at my very best, I could not compete with Tom Thurston, the previous Yearbook Photographer, as he had talent, far superior equipment, money and background.
    We were NOT equal ...... ever.
    He was always better than me, in EVERY way.
    ... as a photographer, and  in many other ways as well.
    .... but then again .... I heard he was killed in Vietnam.
    ... I have the edge.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Arauna in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    If she is deeply spiritual she would always be submissive and not care about status or ranking.  When a brother takes his role too seriously and puts her in her place (i saw a self-absorbed brother chastise a sister unnecessarily recently) she would shrug it off and go on asif nothing happened.  He will grow in maturity eventually.  I supported her and told her I liked what she said.  Hopefully, he will stop killing Jehovah's spirit ....because that is what he did with his action.... 
    I have disagreed with brothers...... but I guess it is how one does it.  I pace myself because my advancement is visible to all...... but I do not want it to lead to too much attention..... that would be morally wrong. I want only more love and understanding for all. I have a very strong and friendly personality but it can sometimes be misunderstood.     I understand what you are saying..... but wisdom has taught  me to step back - not forward. ...... .. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Arauna in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    ... is the color of slippers matched to the color of tie ? :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    A man of style, grace, and polish will always match his slippers to his tie.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Point 1. God does not need telling HE already knows. My prayers to God ask HIM to bring forth a clean people for HIM to use. 
    God used the Nation of Israel for a couple of reasons. The main reason was to being forth Jesus Christ. 
    But as I've said before, and of course I'm ignored for it, people were BORN INTO the Nation of Israel so they did NOT CHOSE to be Iraelites. Hence it was not voluntary.  Do you not understand that ?
    And therefore do you not understand the big difference ?  JW's volunteer TO BE JWs. It is a personal choice, a choice which Israelites did not have. 
    There is no comparison between the Nation of Israel  and the CCJW in that way. 
    But one thing, the Nation of Israel got punished for disobeying God. They got punished for offering their children in the fire. They got punished for worshipping false gods. 
    So if you really think the CCJW is God's chosen organisation, and if you really think it compares to the Nation of Israel, then I suggest to you that you get ready for the CCJW to be punished by God. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Perhaps the problem lies in our concept of what is the "proper" worship of god.
    For example, "true" worship of God, within a religious system, would mean that there is nothing that makes that worship questionable. Doctrine, the way the doctrine as whole or particular doctrine is applied, the state of the spiritual heart of the believer toward himself, toward god and toward other people and the relationship of the believer to the world around him as whole.
    But we can also lay out the theory and the possibility that the "true" worship of God is relative and perhaps does not exist, because people who participate in the worship process have the problem of establishing what is true and what is not, and not just about God and Bible, but about themselves.
    Also, perhaps people forget possibility how god's opposer have no problem with religion where 50, 68 or 95% of doctrine is "true" but rest is not. Or how members of some religion are most peaceful people in the world but one or few of their's doctrines are "false true". 
    If members of some religion have idea how they have "the truth", but in the same time that "truth", as concept, is under various process of transformations under and because influence of "light", and how content of "pure" truth and doctrine depend on our progress of understanding, than people create specific way of worshiping god.
    In all that we need answer on: how far true god is ready to go in accepting human worship that is, and we clearly see that, contaminated with human's and devil's influence?  
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    When thinking of the necessity of "new light"; which WT history shows was never "light" at all, (i.e. this generation teaching), I remembered Jesus' words at  Matt 5:37
    37 But let your statement be ‘Yes, yes; no, no,’ and anything beyond these is from the evil one.
    Seriously, God and Christ both, don't have anything to do with any supposed "light" that the Wt. may attempt to shine.  
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Given the very long time and different religious ideologies, but also different interpretations within the same religious community, one could conclude that a "disgusting thing" exists at all times and in all places. Because of this, people who see and want to react, must constantly be ready to "flee to the mountains".
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    ...by the way... listen to everybody.
    TRUST NOBODY!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Given the very long time and different religious ideologies, but also different interpretations within the same religious community, one could conclude that a "disgusting thing" exists at all times and in all places. Because of this, people who see and want to react, must constantly be ready to "flee to the mountains".
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    You are wise, Grasshopper, but the only problem with that is I do not want to run anything.
    One day an ex-wife was watching me clean my firearms, covering the dining room table, and looking down, disapprovingly asked "What would you do if nobody ELSE had guns?"
    I turned and looked up at her and said "Rule wisely."
    ... but I was just kidding.
    ... too much work.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Everything is a matter of personal opinion ONLY ... unless it can be backed up by hard facts that can be independently verified.
    All else is "fluff"
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Meanwhile here in the UK, Boris the PM has just announced a sort of 'lock down' on all of us.  As of tonight we are basically grounded. Not a strong enough 'lock down' in my opinion but then modern day UK PMs are never strong enough to get a job done. 
    Meanwhile I notice that TTH is more concerned about money than human sufferings. And as for the CCJW still pumping out their 'talks' etc, so what ?  Lies are lies and deceit is still deceit whether by word of mouth live, or by relayed internet or other tech'.  Makes no difference if you are all still singing to the same tune, if the song does not serve God. 
    @JW Insider I think you totally avoided what i said to waffle on about other things. Why even bother to quote me if you don't actually want to answer what i asked ? 
    You did make it quite clear though that the CCJW is built on a crumbling foundation. In fact the CCJW is built on a foundation of lies and deceit. For you to say it does not matter now, well that is your opinion of course.  It only does not matter to new members that never knew the previous lies and misused scriptures. 
    I'll repeat @Srecko Sostar 
    It can be so for new and coming generations of JW members ( younger in age and who are not so long time in organization). Older members try/tried to cope with issue and found few methods how to deal with wrong faith doctrine. 
    More serious "problem" not gone, and will stay "forever". To give and show trust in GB leaders, because Jesus also trust GB. :)) 
    Thank you Srecko, very true words. 
    @JW Insider  Your list of 4 points proves very clearly that your GB are not the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave'. 
    You have proven by your own words how wicked they are. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    Preaching of JW are based on, primarily, this: as much worst condition in the world are, the end is nearer. This is win situation for WT. If "preaching" stopped than end is here. If preaching not stopped than this means you have to save more people. If "preaching" stopped but nothing happen than you can wait to hear "clarification". JW will never lose their spirituality and hope, because humankind will continue in this state for very long time, unfortunately.  
    It is good to remind on factual records of Israel history. With or/and without Moses, people of Israel lived and died not too much different than any other nation in history.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    It can be so for new and coming generations of JW members ( younger in age and who are not so long time in organization). Older members try/tried to cope with issue and found few methods how to deal with wrong faith doctrine. 
    More serious "problem" not gone, and will stay "forever". To give and show trust in GB leaders, because Jesus also trust GB. :)) 
    In some situation it is good to show trust in "authority". For example, here in Croatia and especially in Zagreb after strong earthquake citizens need to show trust and listen to secular authority and medical experts how to deal with two problems.
    PS
    As ironic way of look on technology, we can add: "thanks" to devil weapon/invention called web, internet, satan raised JW meetings and preaching on next level, scale - in virtual reality. You can stay at home and spread the word. Perhaps costs for organized preaching, as publisher, pioneer and missioner or for any other special service, will not require, for these reason, donation money in the future :))  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    ... perhaps they had economists and environmental non-governmental organizations  who worked against fossil fuels and advocated for green technology :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Coronavirus: Jehovah’s Witnesses Cancel Historical Evangelism In UK   
    I think If I had been in that great crowd of people with Moses, wandering around in the desert for 40 years .... and after passing the same landscape every 2-1/2 years, over and over and over ...and burying my grandparents, and then parents, and possibly some children in the desert sands,  I would have seriously considered taking my family and heading North.
    ....especially if I understood that once we reached the promised land, my sons would have to fight and probably die to seize it from the people already there.
    ....just sayin' .
    .... and then, in the quiet of the night, I wonder why all the lands around Israel have abundant oil .... except Israel.

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