Srecko Sostar

Everybody carries a lifetime of baggage with them. There are no exceptions.
PTSD.
 

Obfuscate, Obfuscate Obfuscate, divert, project and mislead and chatter on abouuuuuut …. NOTHING!
It’s a very simple question … with A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER!
NO. 
(… the answer shown below did not even address the question.)
INSTEAD… we get THIS “word salad” blather!
Even if Georgie believed the answer was “Yes”, a “Yes” with follow up facts to support the opinion would have been honest.
…. would have been.
 

Maybe that's true, maybe not. Do we have any evidence for this scenario?

And what if this forum is meant to gather information about how ex-JWs think, so that the folks at WTJWorg can prepare countermeasures? lol

Projection is not Proof, Georgie. 
It’s people like you who had Sir Thomas More executed for remaining silent when accused of treason.
His persecutor and prosecutor Cromwell, was executed 5 years later for treason.

 
 

"WHAT IS TRUTH?" - Charles Taze Russell

“This question is one which every sincere Christian should ask and seek to answer….
…..A truth presented by Satan himself is just as true as a truth stated by God.”
Only a Liberal agenda driven Moron could misunderstand THAT.
It means EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS !!

Heck … the only reason I posted that cartoon was to get a rise outta you, and see how many words you would use use to be offended and object to it ….. 
 
* boop!*

If I am interpreting correctly, you will engage in agreement with every Catholic, Protestant, Muslim and Hindu who has not renounced their faith, beliefs, but you will not engage in agreement on anything with a former JW. .... lol
Dualism is necessary, because without it we would not be able to see the opposite. If there are no lies, there is no truth. Without darkness there is no light. Etc. 
Everything would be a long straight line that proves nothing.

I was at a stoplight, when this scraggly non-Caucasian with some brochures and a can motioned for me to roll my window down 
He was asking for contributions to the BLFM, and I put two dollars in his can.
as he turned, a I asked “What is the BLFM?”.
He replied “Better Lunches For Me”.
 

Hiding and holding the truth out is often the hallmark of GB members and their lawyers. So I agree with you on how important this issue is.
Ok. Give some interpretations, please.

…

Satan as Lucifer was supposed to teach humanity about God, and other stuff, and from the time of his creation by Jesus as Michael sometime after the Big Bang, told the truth. 
That’s why he was there in the Garden of Eden.
This is how simple things become when TRUTH IS YOUR GOAL, and not your AGENDA … and you ask the right questions.

The right answers JUMP OUT AT YOU!

You asked a good question. As far as I know from the Bible, no angel ever sounded the alarm. Were angels not present during the conversation between Satan and Eve? If they didn't, then nobody knew what was going on. If one of them listened to it and did not react, then one must ask why?
Yes, since Satan initiated the process of deception, it stands to reason that all his words thereafter become suspect. However, this does not prove that he was not telling the truth before that unfortunate event. It also doesn't prove that he can't decide to start telling the truth. Because you yourself say that it's all a matter of choice.
 

THAT avoids a mountain of misleading and obfuscating crap designed to impugn my simple straightforward Pastor Russel  quote.
No.
One word. ONE WORD completely answers the one sentence question !!!
(… anyone can easily see how simple this all COULD have been, Georgie)

It can also be like this:
"When did Satan start lying?"
"Did the angel known by the name Satan ever speak the truth?"

"Does Satan always tell, speak the truth?"

Every intelligent creature created by God with free will is capable of telling truths and lies. What is unclear about that? Or what in that conclusion is contrary to the words of Jesus?
Perhaps, if you want a different answer, you should ask a more adequate, more accurate question.

Every intelligent creature created by God with free will is capable of telling truths and lies. What is unclear about that? Or what in that conclusion is contrary to the words of Jesus?
Perhaps, if you want a different answer, you should ask a more adequate, more accurate question.

Can Satan speak the truth? By George88
6 hours ago in Topics
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/can
can
1 of 5
verb (1)
kən,
 ˈkan  
 also  ˈken;
 
 dialectal  ˈkin
past could 
kəd,
 ˈku̇d  ; present singular & plural can
Synonyms of can
auxiliary verb
1
a: be physically or mentally able to
He can lift 200 pounds.
b: know how to
She can read.
c—used to indicate possibility
Do you think he can still be alive?
Those things can happen.
—sometimes used interchangeably with may
d: be inherently able or designed to
everything that money can buy
e: be enabled by law, agreement, or custom to
Congress can declare war.
f: be permitted by conscience or feeling to
can hardly blame her
g: be made possible or probable by circumstances to
He can hardly have meant that.
h: be logically or axiologically able to
2 + 2 can also be written 3 + 1.
2
: have permission to —used interchangeably with may
You can go now if you like.
 
transitive verb
1
archaic : to be able to do, make, or accomplish
2
obsolete : KNOW, UNDERSTAND
 
Answer: YES

I had to look that up……

BTK59 …. Your writing is one continuous stream of theological theory in vague, nebulous, fuzzy generalizations that use recursive loop logic, which ALWAYS fails … BECAUSE … you never supply any hard facts to back up your suppositions.
For a change, add some hard facts, real life examples, and SPECIFICS to your arguements.
A MATRIX OF WORDS IS NOT A FACT.
Disneyland is a multi- billion dollar real enterprise in California … but the basis for the “House Of Mouse”, is a carefully constructed fantasy.
…. like your non-specific wish list of nattering nebulosity.
… like perhaps the greatest Science Fiction book of all time, “The Stars My Destination”, by Alfred Bester. I feel very strongly about that, but human teleportation is not a real thing, and although I could spend several pages gushing about it, it would be ONLY my strongly held opinion about a fantasy.
….. like your carefully constructed word salad fantasy about what is really going on.

…BTK59:
Before you get into your “wish list” of how your imagination perceives things happen, take a short side trip through REALITY .. . the way things really are.

To "clarify" this topic for the readers. This "spiritual heritage of management" culminated in the formation of today's GB. How does GB work? It governs dogmas, instructions, supervises, governs how JWs should live. How do they come to decisions? By voting of all GB members. If 2/3 of the members outvote 1/3 of the members, then the decision is considered valid. What does this say about the activities of the HS (Jesus and God) under whose "leadership" all members of the GB are allegedly act? This tells us about several possible implications.
1. not all GB members are influenced by the "same HS" when making decisions
2. HS does not "lead" all GB members equally and simultaneously, in harmony, in unity,
3. the decisions made by the GB are not united by "one spirit", that means the HS is disunited or the GB is disunited,
4. none of the JWs have a guarantee that the decisions made by the GB are the "will of God", that is, that they are for the benefit of the believers. God's will consists in the fact that the "sheep" do not go astray, but if the decision was made only because of 2/3 who overrode, overrule 1/3, then it is not God's will but human,
5. the annulled decisions of the previous GB prove that they were "human decisions" without "guidance by HS",
6. the previous statement (No.5) proves that even the current decisions of GB do not have to be "from HS"

I am having trouble with the concept that humans sinning against God reflects badly on the reputation of God.
That assumes weakness and vulnerability..
Humans can never “get it right” anyway.
The Dinosaurs failed at spirituality, and the whole thing just didn’t work out.
Did their failure reflect badly on God?