Jump to content
The World News Media

Space Merchant

Member
  • Posts

    3,129
  • Joined

  • Days Won

    26

Everything posted by Space Merchant

  1. @TrueTomHarley True. Also the accompany of another guardian. As long as there is heighten supervision of the child if the parent, one or none, is not present. This is so there is more cover, an indirect practices by a multitude of institutions, even the schools whereas there is usually more than one teacher in the classroom when there is a few students.
  2. So can you name one Hospital, Youth Club, Pre-School and or any educational institution by Jehovah's Witnesses that is for children and only children? After all, you said you have to be a JW to know, this should be elementary to you. This is indeed a factor because the articles brought this up regarding the Redress Scheme. The article reads: The Jehovah's Witnesses said the religion does not have the institutional settings that the voluntary redress scheme is designed to cover and it will not join. (Note, this was also cited in the article linked by Witness) "The Jehovah's Witnesses have not sponsored any programs or activities that separate children from their parents at any time," it said in a statement to AAP. The statement said the Jehovah's Witnesses did not operate boarding or Sunday schools, did not have youth groups, choirs or sponsor any programs for children, nor run youth centres. "Jehovah's Witnesses simply do not have the institutional settings that result in children being taken into their care, custody, supervision, control or authority." Less than 10 redress scheme applicants have referred to the Jehovah's Witnesses, it said. "Jehovah's Witnesses have responded and will continue to respond directly to individual claims for redress in a caring, fair, and principled manner, taking into consideration the unique circumstances of each claim.
  3. From what I have seen throughout the years, the former Jehovah's Witnesses the ones who endlessly go after the faith, even making money on the speaking badly about the faith, NONE OF THEM, have done anything to combat child abuse, therefore, they apply the same mindset as both Srecko and 4Jah2me, and the other guy on this thread. To Witness' credit, she actually posted a solution in the past, but never has her or anyone else acted upon pushing out this information. The Jehovah's Witnesses, they do fit the category, granted this is common among mankind, as addressed before, knowing but unaware of how to commit to action, that is why some of them learned what to do and what needs to be done, as is the same with anyone fighting child abuse as a whole. Equivocation brought up a good point, granted his experience, and I had mentioned a couple of others in the past, for within every single community, there are those among them that knows what the problem is and has taken action and or passing information along to help fight against a problem. Yes, cleaning does is not something 100%, you can keep doing what needs to be done to minimize and prevent forms of abuse. The sad reality is, you can save 4-5 children and or play a role in preventing them and or anyone they know from being abused and or targeted by an abuser, however, elsewhere, that same number of children are not so lucky. Tragic as it may sound, but the more we help out, this goes for all communities, even for you Jehovah's Witnesses, the higher chance we can reduce child abuse. That being said, this bystander like mentality is something of the common man, of which we can see it play out with all things, even when it comes to various sins, and events happening as we speak and or soon to happen, hence, The End Times. Exactly, but apparently people are too blinded by their own misfortune and disdainment. Granted we are talking about child abuse, the majority of them are unaware, as is with all who are not equipped to deal with child abuse, do not know the mind of an abuser. To some degree they are mental to the point of knowing how to exploit others in order to gain something and or get access to something. I pointed out in the past, abusers tend to target children in various ways through exploitation and several other things that shows how dark and demented such people are. That being said, it is quite sad that a key element in fighting child abuse is often ignored, even if ARC promotes the same thing, such people will not apply it, however, there are the few that would come to their sense and take action, go about the situation of child abuse the correct way. As a sidenote, back in 2017, there was actually a former JW who brought this up. He was not attacking JWs, just the problem itself and stated nearly the same thing I would say, or that of child abuse prevention services, however, the other former JWs who express apostasy, sent him death threats and attacked him, even fat shaming him, as you can see, they even somehow got his videos terminated off of YouTube. This person was the same one who stopped the disgruntled ones in the park by getting officials involved, and around that same time apostate former JWs continued to blame the JWs for the event at the park, when it was actually this one former JW that did this. As you can see even among them there is division. As for Srecko's comments, some of them have been addressed before, I don't see how and why he continues to bring them up, thinking that people would forget old discussion. Granted the Redress is being talked about, I found these two articles, which is somewhat relative to the current situation: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-15/redress-scheme-doesnt-help-all-abuse-victims-campaigner-says/9874576 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/survivors-warn-claimants-could-be-worse-off-under-redress-scheme/9822658
  4. @4Jah2me But not too long ago you spoke of cleaning out the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses regarding child abuse, which is as impossible as someone trying to end racism around the world. All someone has to do is read through all your posts, as is with slander assertions you even added into the mix, as is, with lackless solutions. That being said, as pointed out, this is indeed the reality, even after The Redress, which needs some work in of itself because there were some call outs of physically abused children, child abuse can only be dealt with by God and his Christ. No imperfect person can clean out entirely sexual brazen conduct in all institutions, even the faith community of Jehovah's Witnesses, child abuse will still be a regular sin that plagues all communities. The only thing you can do is to fight child abuse by teaching the people, children and adults, so they can be the very ones to stand up to child abuse, and we do so by using God's Word, the very reason I told you use that wisdom to teach people. From the day this thread was started, I continue to pass such wisdom, and you could have done the same, but clearly you fit the bystander syndrome narrative choosing to do nothing, but at least you know it, but your ability to take some form of action is not there. Age is of no factor because I can tell you right now, even the elderly in the US, as is in the UK, take the same stand as I do, there is not much of an excuse. I do not see why the notion of teaching such things irks you, let alone thinking that such a thing is world based when it is by means of the Bible that enables us to pass wisdom when it comes to discernment and being cautious of danger. The second problem with the Redress is now people are that the alternative is the courts, granted the Redress itself still needs adjustments. They may be making some changes after this is all over.
  5. Granted you have reading comprehension, it was from the article, which you liked but did not read, not to mention you not knowing the former Jehovah's Witnesses in question whom you could not address by name. Now if you read the article you'd know that, as I literally posted the article here: Also, you are said before you did not care about News Corp, why the sudden change? That being said, thank you for proving my point again, I applaud the willful foolishness and your willfulness to ignore and not read into things, let alone the article, granted YOU mentioned News Corp as well... As for your other assertions: Did WT magazines gave enough proper "train" to JW elders and JW members in 1980's ? If yes why JWORG have such massive problem inside Organization 30-40 years later? Are they actually fighting it the wrong way as all other ?! Articles about CSA in WT publications came from what source? From inside WTJWorg wisdom "guided by HS", or by "worldly" source or from mixed sources? As stated before, there are some who actually put forth the effort to apply the the information, as is with those who do not, granted, the bystander syndrome effect and the mentality of the individual and or persons not believing such an event would happened to them, thus should child abuse take place, they are caught off guard. I would not say fighting it wrong per say, just not equipped to handle such situations, mainly during a time where abuse be it sexual and physical and or verbal was higher and not something that people in common around that time were well prepared for. People only began to learn to deal with child abuse as the years went on by, with all avenues open to us now, it opens door to training and learning all things about child abuse and the mentality of an abuser, how they operate, so we can spot the signs early before an abuse takes place, and should an abuse take place, how to deal with the aftermath. I told you this before, but you laughed at helping children, and I am 100% sure since that day, you, like 4Jah2me, fit the category of those who are aware of child abuse within institutions, but have not taking any sort of action whatsoever to become a safeguard to children. Dare I ask you want you've done so far since 2018 when you were addressed the solutions, I know you have done nothing. Train yourself? WTJWorg trained themselves in this subject? But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. - Heb 5:14 Granted there are legitimate Jehovah's Witnesses out there, who knows about child abuse and actually do what they can to prevent it - yes. As pointed out, there are some who are aware, no different from the general public. I am an example, I know about child abuse, and I do take action, and by means of my action, as with others with the same mindset, we enable a minimized risk to further abuse towards children, and these actions play a huge role within the community itself, and can expand to help other communities. Therefore, it comes down to application in the subject matter - child abuse. Even with this advanced self training collective attitude G. Jackson publicly asked ARC The Hon Justice Peter McClellan, "tell us please how you want us to deal with CSA and we will." He, GB member asked "worldly person" for advice and direction and instruction to be incorporated in Australian legislative. But on other hand WTJWorg instructed all "self trained elders" to call Legal Department in Branch Office first and skip Secular Government legislative. :)) That is why if you continued on into the conclusion of ARC, it was stated for Jehovah's Witnesses to better clarify things, the very reason that ARC even provided the same material Evo did on this thread, perhaps there is more. ARC also encourages teaching children as is with means of helping them. I recall I stated this regarding ARC, you laughed at it well, but of course, laughing, to you, seems to help children more than taking action, Srecko, therefore, you give no benefit to child abuse at all, surprisingly you are not an enabler. That being said, church action was discuss, you made a fool of yourself in that subject mater a while back, not wise to repeat the same thing, granted with what we know in regards to the situation.
  6. Can you proof that it is not true when the history of Restorationism proves otherwise? I challenge you on this one and I wait. Also the Redress covers those who were sexual abused as children, it does not cover physical abuse for there was some talk about this back in 2018.
  7. An inspired prophet is one who is like Apostle John, after his death, no one had such inspiration of that level, expect for those before him. Everyone after Apostle John are non-inspired prophets. Anyone who claims to be inspired like that of Prophets of old, is someone who is not just crazy, but having a spirit of wickedness on them, especially from what we know from this author and the fact her affiliation is very very strong with Kairos, which is a huge red flag. What claim are you talking about? Are you attempting to defend a Kairos follower? You do realize demons exist, right? Demons can have influences on people and have people do things, believe it or not, manifestations of things deem ominous. That being said, it is not possible for anyone who be inspired like that of Apostle John, anyone who says otherwise has wickedness upon them, especially if they attest to a claim of speaking with and having something or someone tell them something, hence, Galatians 1:1-11 comes to mind, Galatians 1:8 comes to mind. Because Apostle John was an inspired prophet, like those before him. No one of this level after him. You do not need training to understand evil spirits and demons being upon this world and harbor influence on people. And no such terminology was ever used regarding CSA. Oh, so you are now in favor of demons? That is quite the spectacle, Srecko. If you want to defend Ms. Royal, I accept your challenge because a lot of what she says everyone is calling her out on it, even former JWs. That being said, her prayer should be an OBVIOUS FACTOR, I do not see how you overlook that, after all, I am sure you know what the Sermon on the Mount is whereas our Lord taught us to pray, did you seemingly go aloof here? As I recall, I believe this was pointed out to you in a lesson regarding Biblical Facts (surprise).
  8. @TrueTomHarley As I pointed out in the other thread, a factor to the Redress is the fact the JWs do not have educational institutions and or youth clubs and a list of other things, granted, most who signed up for the Redress and or have not signed yet, have one and or more of these things. There's bound to be alternatives anyway for victims and those that have done the sin will meet consequence. That being said, the articles from Australia are sporadic, and not easy to come by due to the whole paywall issue, something for a techy like me find annoying. As for the whole 2 witness ruling, I believe it was clarified a while back, for even a piece of evidence can count as a witness within the theology of JWs. EDIT: I found it, however, back then it was brief, I had researched what the ruling was after I had posted it, and made note of what it actually is and what it is often used for vs. the misconception. I have also found out even the Justice System use a similar two witness ruling in come cases, something of which I will post soon if there is a thread about it: That being said, the information from what I pointed out from the MSM claim vs what is true is below:
  9. Anyways, another factor to this whole situation is the fact Jehovah's Witnesses do not own and or build hospitals, have clubs for children, let alone preschools, any form of educational and or religious based institution for children and a list of other things, they do not have sporting events youth clubs, etc. I cited an article before, but did not add this part in yet, so paraphrasing from what I had read thus far.
  10. As for the claim of it being destroyed, it is an odd speculative claim because over the years, there has been information concerning abusers among the Jehovah’s Witnesses bring brought up later on. Granted the faith in question is known for practicing disciplinary church action when it comes to Internal Investigations at the hands of those of religious office. So, people claiming it being destroyed is a bit farfetched. And so you are in the right to believe as such, as evidence throughout the history of child abuse among the faith community is an obvious one. As far as I know, Jesus is of God’s Kingdom, the American Courts are not clean either, I say this for good reason. Regardless, the Courts in the United States run on a broken Justice System, and when it comes to child abuse, they cannot eliminate child abuse in ANY institution, this includes, Jehovah’s Witnesses. Which puts me in the correct because I stated you can stop some cases of child abuse, as well as prevent it, you cannot stop it 100%, granted this world is an imperfect one, with one ruler that is God’s Adversary. That being said, you are leading upon an impossible task, an unrealistic one at that, this is why the only other option to minimize child abuse more, to which you laughed at and disagreed with, is teaching them. For it is no wonder child abuse and neglect prevention personnel are often not happy at times, or those who support them, due to the fact, no one is listening as much and or taking action, so if we are to fit you into this example, you fit the notion as someone who is of this category of the people I often put in an example, hence these are one of the common ways man operate, as I told Evo, this is indeed true, concerning the majority, the JWs, the everyday folk, you even. And your point with The Nation of Israel? The Romans? It got the job done… Of course, you would say that. There was a reason as to WHY that prophetical event took place. As I recall, context for Scripture does not commit your favor, but this event. You speak of little faith, but you willful ignore even the Bible instruction to teach children, even when it is presented to you, not to mention, the confusion you expressed in the other threads when it came to wording as well as deem everyone, be it you know them or not as guilty. Moreover, in my response to you, I alluded to 4 verses without you know and as we can all see – the reaction. You yourself have a long way to go. That being said, as I told you again and again, child abuse is indeed a problem, and the reality is, you cannot stop it 100%, you thinking mankind can clear out sins as if they had power equal to that of the Most High is quite absurd, granted each and everyone one of us, faith or not, know as to HOW sin entered into the world, and the various sins that plagues men, women, and children throughout nations, throughout countries, states, from this home to the next, and all these ill actions, among them, brazen immoral conduct is one of them, and child abuse is among this category. Those among mankind who are morally upright, will do all that they can to minimize some problems, but they know also, I myself included, we cannot destroy a problem – that, my friend, is the realism of the situation, and I can say the same thing about violence, racism, greed, corruption, etc. Be realistic to the situation at hand.
  11. @Equivocation As you can see, as pointed out in the past, everyone has these types of behavior, and a minor form of bystander syndrome, in this regard, child abuse. 4Jah2me speaks of child abuse, but he fits the category of those who really do not take much action, but speaks about it, that is among what I cited, even you JWs express this among the fold. The irony is he thinks I am blinding you because of the behavior of such he is expressing, which is something common with ALL men and women regardless of the situation, one does not need that much discernment to even see this, especially when he has a platform to take action, but disagrees with helping, this is why I posed the question and challenge a while ago. That being said, it is very obvious as to what being part of the world is (his interpretation vs. The Bible and it's Principles), I don't think you or anyone else have to explain this to someone who clearly can read the Bible and figure this out for themselves - granted if finds all of you guilty anyways. Other than that, as stated many times, all children, even JW children matter, and any man or woman of sin will get found out - Numbers 32:23. Also he speaks for all JWs in the UK, but he does not know that there are some JWs in the UK that do not even fit his description, so he is pondering on his own experience. 4Jah2me will be quite amazed if he ran into one that I know, one that I had challenged, Kathgar.
  12. It's actually 2, didn't realize I typed 3. This claims is in regards to the Catholic Church granted them and the Catholic Church's number of adherents are vastly different.
  13. The thing is, there is speculation of it even existing, whereas other say otherwise, therefore, this database notion is muddled. As for the publication cited by @Equivocation some JWs actually do apply it, however, as pointed out, some do not know what they are doing whereas some JWs are plain oblivious to child abuse. I would not say excuses, more like caught off guard, mainly when they do not know anything pertaining to child abuse. If we can go back to ARC, they have provided solutions to not just the institutions, but the general public, likewise to the JWs, the people of Australia fit that same mentality, as is with everyone else, therefore, they harbor that bystander syndrome like mentality, which is no different from oblivious and or ill-equipped JWs vs. everyone else who is equipped to fight child abuse. Well Australia, like other EU countries is far worse when it comes to child abuse, a bit out of control be it in an institution or not. You lot are up there compared to other non-EU countries. So it is no surprise that pedophiles can access areas where there is children, for the majority are not that well equipped to handle child abuse as a whole. The whole Blood Doctrine concept is to abstain from blood, and it is carried over from the Mosaic Law into the New Law, so it is understandable as to why they have this view. Likewise, JWs are not the only people who hold this view, other Christians as well, and to some extent, Jews and those who are following Islam. Moreover, you even have cultures that apply abstaining from blood for a great number of reasons, some, who are not religious, hold this view for reasons of superstition. Perhaps learn more about the law itself, there is a reason behind that. Again, they would need to be trained on the matter. A solution that even CSA services even point out, and some information provided by ARC. Even you yourself can train yourself on child abuse and help out those who are actually fighting it the wrong way and not be as a person who is sitting on the sidelines just calling CSA without taking action - therefore, I agree with ARC, services, etc that provide the same example, even the Bible when it comes to passing wisdom and teaching children and others. That being said, as for News Corp, 3 points made by them have been proven false.... As stated, the focus now is only The Redress and ARC, for the accusations are looking more false day by day, meanwhile, you have the Australia police who are said to be blamed here, when some of them who are equipped to fight CSA, took action, not all of them of course, so the former JW cannot simply blame them in this regard because there are some in the law who are capable.
  14. That is where you are blind, he pointed out those articles for people to learn about what child abuse is, and even stated some people actually apply this stuff, to which I even said the following: Not All JWs are aware of child abuse, some of them know how to dael with the situation, others know about it, but cannot handle the situation and you have some adherents who know nothing of child abuse, in addition to that, they do not even know ARC. And no on here is claiming innocence expect you. I am comparing the two because child abuse is far greater in those areas, this is all in statistics, of course. These areas far far worse, and the reason I bring up the UK because in regards to the situation we have with JWs in Australia, it is connected. No one is knocking that child abuse is taking place in the US, however, it is smaller in comparison to areas like the UK and other parts of the EU. This is all facts some of which still stand true today. As for the database, we do not know, some are saying they have one, some are saying they do not, others have said they have destroyed it. We should not be playing multiple choice with something serious. In the United States, believe it or not, when it comes to Child Abuse, women, sadly, tends to get off the hook easily, and the consequences they endure are not as great as that of men. The reason for this is because of a brazen belief pushed around in society and media, some in law have let women go because of their looks, or status regardless of the institution. Men are far worse of course. When it comes to child abusers, it is often men who take this action, and primarily, according to the FBI, the abusers tend to be Caucasian/White Males, and majority of them are within the household of the person they abuse. Another one is C.O.C.A, otherwise known as Child on Child Abuse, which is a complex situation to deal with either before the abuse takes place, or afterwards because no one would suspect a child to be an abuser, be it boy or girl, but this kind of Child Abuse is far greater in the Social Media as well as Youth Clubs, compared to institutions. That being said, all areas are plagued with Child Abuse, however, as pointed out many times, the UK, and other EU countries, even Australia, is far worse, and pedophiles in general are in positions, or seek such positions in order to gain access to children. Also, such things have to be tackle the smart way, otherwise there will be bloodshed, for we already had vigilant justice, assassinations, and a list of other things take place, as is, with the victim and or her friends or family being killed in the process in some cases, as is, those encouraging pedophiles to strike again. This is why child abuse must be fought the correct way. It is not terms of belief, it is in terms of application. What @Equivocation and I have pointed out is that some people apply these things and some do not, as is with some who are not even ware of child abuse. Do not get it twisted, perhaps read what was said. And I have given examples in the past regarding some JWs taking action, i.e. The Swahili Jehovah's Witnesses and his church, The Arabic JW in the UK, and we also have @Equivocation as an example, a teenager who is a JW, who has been applying this information. Again, there are a handful of JWs out there that are capable of fighting child abuse, and are equip to handle the situation, to say otherwise is hypocrisy when there is proof of this, some of which, even ExJWs also pointed out. That being said, teaching people about child abuse and how to fight it is indeed powerful. This is fact. Majority of child abuse mostly takes place within the household, primarily done by the Father of the house, rarely it is the Mother, however, the Mother in some cases can be an accomplice. Mothers who do child abuse do it differently, sometimes it is not directly abusing the child, but they, in this case, sell off their child to be abused, something of which is very common if the sexes were reversed. This does not have to be proven in court, all it takes is investigative work internally and or by law enforcement. Again, there are some within institutions who are not well equipped and or not equipped at all to handle child abuse. This is why, as I pointed out to even the JWs, it can be problematic if you do not train these people as well. There are examples of the a JW congregant, possibly an elder, in their church who has taken some form of against, again we can go back to ARC's case study on how the victim found out about child abuse by means of a publication from JWs. Perhaps, but according to some people, they say it has been destroyed, and or not existing at all. Moreover, such a thing needs to be tackled in a smart way, otherwise there will not just be abuse on people's hands, but blood, after all, this is the United States, whereas we have several examples. That being said, as pointed out, people are speculating and or coming with their own assumptions.
  15. That is the reality, however, there are some good souls that do more than take pictures, they help out in the aftermath, able and willing because they were equipped to take action.
  16. Yep, seen it a few times, for it took a single piece of philosophy to shatter one's faith. This is why some people who have faith fear educational institutions, which is sometimes known to spread such information. There is no question such a thing can be used as a dart or an arrow by someone who is deemed an Apostate, all they have to do is aim using this dart/arrow at whatever faith they want to target and or idea they do not like and look for the novices within that community to spread this information.
  17. My take on this is, only a handful of your faith community reads these things, know these things and apply them, the other handful may dabble a little bit on this information, but would not think it will happen to them, their family or their church congregation, and the other handful are oblivious to all things pertaining to CSA. An abuser, a pedophile, tends to exploit such people in a community who lack in information pertaining to CSA in order to access children, and by exploit, meaning, joining your community. The other side of the spectrum is the abuser is a family member, granted most abusers are among the household of the victim, and the demographics concerning things regarding race and sex is obvious, especially in a culture today where people prompt the idea of pedophilia to some degree, even in shows, movies, etc. That being said, more within your faith community should be doing this, then again, as pointed out, each church differs despite being in union of the same faith, liken to the example I had give about a strict pastor and a not so strict pastor, in your case, an elder. Moreover, even former members of your faith should be doing this, but from the looks of things, they do not, most of them. Some of them even, cater ideas to an onlooker who is seeking to commit harm. One of the reasons pedophiles favor religions (among other easy access areas) more is because they can easily exploit the kindness of congregants, and if lucky, they exploit their ability to forgive others, as well as hearing such ones speak of these religious institutions as some glorious paradise for the average pedophile. Child Abuse in general, Australia, is far worse, but does not pale in comparison to the UK, which is greater, in this case. For it is not just in institutions, but online, social media, online gaming, etc. Most parents and guardians suffer from the notorious bystander syndrome when it comes to pedophilia and CSA. The former JWs, the sex abuse survivors, think none of the AFP is doing their job, even shaming them, however, they have been taking action, for a couple of weeks ago they saved about 14 children; granted, it is not as if CSA is unknown to them either, likewise with the child abuse situation among Jehovah's Witnesses. As for the Redress Scheme, there are talks about forcing groups to sign now, some are now bringing up gov't involvement with said force.
  18. @Thinking True. Mankind is imperfect after all. Perfection sheds no mistake whatsoever, but it's counterpart, imperfection, will commit to a mistake here and there, despite improving doing better in some instances, there is no way it can be immune to making no mistake. That being said, I am sure everyone here has made some mistake in their lives, be it minor, or major... Perhaps even embarrassing.
  19. @Anna One thing is for sure, Apostasy can be damaging, especially if there is a sprinkle of Unchristian Philosophies that are involved, which is indeed a faith killer for the one who is unaware and or ill-equipped to fight and or see it. Something of that nature would render who stripped of faith, and believing that God does not exist without even touching Atheistism.
  20. Well the people are not fed up with CHAZ/CHOP, and they want to sue the state. The US is in a bit of a predicament because you have people of power supporting the protesters, and they are purposely ignorant of the situation, even baiting Trump to take action. I am also hearing talk about something being sign, which will somewhat prompt some actions, people are bringing up segregation again between people who are white and people who are not white, which consist of Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. That being said, what, kind of amazes me, is that there are some people who support BLM and the far-left, who loved and support CHAZ and the Chazistanis, and now, they are crying about it. That in of itself, is hypocrisy, meanwhile, you have the virus spiking in 3 states, Texas, California, and Florida. Moreover, BLM has a lot more money than previous rises among the group.
  21. @Isabella That i quote the name for such an element of power. But it does fit.
  22. That is no different from the bystander syndrome expressed by a multitude of people, the "glad that didn't happen to me much", but at the same time, they let their guard down, only for something similar to take place upon them, their household, etc. directly and or indirectly. Certain cultures are like this, I can speak for even mine, some detail I rather not get into for reasons. That being said, some people do far worse. As for getting involved, you can, but there are some risks, as I recall bringing up a case in one country I think it was whereas vigilant justice was expressed by means of assassinations. Regarding CSA, some of this has taken place in the United States also, when the Catholic pedophiles were revealed, someone took it upon themselves to deliver a blood raged induced action, this goes hand in hand, with abusers who take their profession as key to access children, i.e. flying aircrafts, etc. Only some people will take that action, not all. Teaching children, as I had told you, and others is key, without that key, you leave the door open for potential abusers to come in, to exploit the people by pretending to befriend them, and this allows them to gain access to children. Not everyone has the luxury as you have, granted, among JWs, as stated, even they are not immune to child abuse, therefore, to lessen the abuse, you have to teach the people, talk to them about it. People are aware of this, but some disgruntled JWs think otherwise. Some former JWs take this approach in order to fight child abuse, which is indeed working, this can also be said for those outside of the faith community in question, as is, never had any affiliation, take this action as well, and it helps. The only issue here is dealing with the abuser, for they can make other attempts to exploit, thus being clever about it, these things you have to look out for when it comes to CSA. You not only have to teach CSA, but you have to understand the mentality of the abuser, likewise, to knowing the next move your enemy will make. Granted there are some cultures who do not trust specific backgrounds and or races, thus they tend to keep to themselves. However, there are those who take action. I am of a strict background too. I cannot speak for others either, granted some people are raised up with no consequence to action and or discipline of any kind, sometimes, such ones are the ones to commit to damage, mainly if they are the ones who suffered when they were younger are taught to commit ill intent. That being said, I am now aware because of ARC, and the situation with one sex abuse survivor mentioned in the case study of Jehovah's Witnesses. If it was not for that action, she would have found out if she was being abused much later on, and at the time, the damage would have been increased. People need to learn, for no institution is immune, plain and simple, moreover, the Bible can help with this too.
  23. @4Jah2me Knowing these things doesn't mean being part of the world, and it should be known to you what being Part of the World even means. The Bible teaches us to pass wisdom to children, within this wisdom, in turn they avoid dangers to themselves and or to those they care about. As for these connections in the UK, which is far grander than that of the US, the abusers have only one concern other than gaining access to children. Begin part of the world is admiring the beast, to give in to Babylon and all those connected to her, to accept and promote the ideologies that lack God's favor, to put oneself about the teachings and or cutting up the teachings, and a list of other things. Knowing CSA, and how to fight it and or prevent it has nothing to do with being part of the world because last I check Scripture, Babylon is the one to corrupt, not the helping type, as is, with the wild beast. You do not have to get involved with the craziness, all you have to do is pass on wisdom, nothing more. This same wisdom is accepted by all persons of all ages, man, woman and child. You said before you use the social platform, take that tool and pass forth wisdom, in doing so, you can be another combatant against CSA. This is a section within the forums that is about Jehovah's Witnesses, but unknown to you, this thread, from it start, has always been controversial posts whereas all things go. Therefore, it is no surprise that someone can bring up facts about something and or someone, this includes anything pertaining to Restorationism groups. In fact, Controversial Posts was the main section before it was turned into a JW club and still to this day, it is as it is. You can talk about JWs all you want, but these solutions apply to all institutions within the realm of religion as well, therefore, because this is a section that the sub-focus is JWs, it should not stop one from passing these solutions to even the community in this club. You also use FB, that same information can be passed on there, CSA prevention services even promote to spread this information, and on the other side of the spectrum, even the Bible expresses this knowledge. I don't care about Catholics, even if I did, the subject matter is CSA. All children are of concern after all, even the children among JW regardless of what the sub-thread consists of. CSA is something that is of a large scale. Just because this section is regarding JWs, it should not negate and or isolate non JW children. Teaching children is also a general thing, not an isolated issue. Which can be seen, that is all you talk about, but regardless CSA is a problematic issue that is generalized within each and every institution. Whatever positive information you can pass on to here, to any JW here, or that of your other social space, take that time to spread that knowledge. Not doing so, will only have the opposition increase in rank, gain more access to children and cause even more damage. I can tell you this, as pointed out, an abuser's goal is an obvious one, but there is one thing they like more than whatever victim they are targeting, that thing is, that their victim is not knowledgeable. If we can go back to ARC, the person in question was abused among a relative who was a JW, the victim was a JW herself, all it took was basic knowledge on what happen to her, which translated to her story of being a survivor of sex abuse. That being said, more and more people are already knowing of the situation in Australia regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, but at the same time, they are the same ones who have become skeptical due to the fact misinformation is now being spread, so much as so, even Atheists are pointing this out. I'd also like to add sometimes such conversations about CSA with children or adults who are not equipped, can often times not be easy, but you have to explain things in a manner for them to understand and apply it, pass on what you know to them so they can benefit, in turn, they can take action also to help.
  24. This is indirect, but there have been some people in Russia that has been combating this. Although some not even being religious, they stood up for Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia whereas outside of Russia, a lot of misinformation has been put out. In connection to this you have a lot of people who are against Mevedev and those who were targeted by the FindFace software, speaking up in regards to freedom itself. That was bound to happen granted the pressure of the situation kept on increasing ever since the day where the RoC connected with the Pope, as is, with the RoC making moves alongside the State Duma, some action, being against the people of Russia, especially prior to Putin's reelection, which as I recall, was a no contest win, where everyone was in the single digits and Putin himself was in the high doubles. That being said, been tracking Russia for, 2 years almost, for other things related such as the UN, and Russian allies as is with Israel tension. The powers that be are indeed in connection with Babylon the Great, however, only a few can see this, likewise, with the powerful super powers and which side they are on.
  25. @JW Insider Yes, unfortunately those who say otherwise do not see this. They will continue to state misinformation, and will do so to those who do not know such things, often times, they do so to belittle them until they meet the next person who corrects them, or the onlooker who knows the truth in all this.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Service Confirmation Terms of Use Privacy Policy Guidelines We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.