Dmitar

Mathew  5 :22
But I say to you but that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council and whoever says ‘you fool’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Your abuse and the fact that Satan is laughing his head off about you fighting with and causing dissension  amongst Jehovahs people..I have no alternative but to step away from you via blocking such behavior.
 

I agree, we can all ask for Jehovah's holy spirit and receive it. I do not know what she means by "guidance". 
I know that the prophets in Israel received more Holy spirit than others so they could finish a specific task Jehovah wanted them to complete. This fits in with the meaning in Jehovah's name.  "He causes to become" makes people become what Jehovah needs them to be so they can complete a task he has for them.   Or Jehovah worked in them until the task was completed.  Take for  example Cyrus......  Jehovah anointed him and it is clear from his life that he had some diplomatic  skills that were exceptional.  But after he, as a pagan Zoroastrian, had completed the task assigned him (unknown to himself)  - he went to war again and again to extend his realm and was killed by a WOMAN!  it is clear that he did not receive Jehovah's Spirit any longer.
Regarding the gifts of the Spirit - these went away after the Apostle John died.  The special gifts were given by the Apostles who "laid their hands" on those who had not yet received the Spirit.  They then could do the gifts mentioned in 1Cor 14.  But 1 Cor 13 clearly show that these gifts would eventually end and LOVE would replace all gifts in the congregation.
I studied this very well after I came in the Truth because I ran into an apostolic sect in South Africa who believe they are the true Apostles (inherited the apostleship from the original Apostles who passed this on to the next generation). And they do all these weird falling down when receiving the Spirit etc. they talk in tongues and other "gifts " as well.
The secret to understanding this very well is to look to the history in the bible on the "laying on of hands".   If I remember correctly it was only the Apostles who could do this or those who received a special Apostleship. ..... (to be sent out). 
We no longer do the laying on of the hands and when John died these special gifts died with them. 
Moses could do special signs.  Some prophets could do them as well as Jesus and Apostles.  Why?   These signs helped to establish the new congregation - that was the purpose.
Hebrews 2: "For it began to be spoken through our Lord and was verified for us by those who heard him, 4  while God joined in bearing witness with signs and wonders* and various powerful works and with the holy spirit distributed according to his will.

Also for the record because I know you won't bring it up after this. After John Butler was banned possibly around October of 2019, a few months later, John Butler II emerged around December, pleading with Admin, both in 1st person and in 3rd person, hence you wearing a mask (so to speak), in a few remarks.
It is also noted that it was not anyone else, but you, granted of not only the mannerisms, but what was said. Admin essentially shut that down too, with the thread involved, effectively wiped, likewise to your use of Ebonics, which I will find should the situation calls for it. Of what Admin did, difficult to track with Archives, but the name was found, even if anyone looks at the members of the club itself, the name is found, present day.
Next time, understand the order of your own house, for if something is said, it isn't without reason.
So the order it seems, concerning you, John Butler > John Butler II > 4Jah2me > Patiently Waiting For Truth (current)
https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/profile/18849-john-butler-2/
 
 
 
 3rd person talk concerning your tenure is quite the mask of which is worn.
That being said, I believe this matter, has concluded, Mr. Butler.
 
If there is an Allen Entity, I guess one can say there is Butler Entity as well, but such an Entity is aware of his tenured sentience.
 

@Witness By the way, granted I can't edited, pertaining to Galatians 1:1-11, this is true. No one can have visions at the level of a Prophet Inspired, therefore, anyone claiming, for example, an Angel showed them what Heaven looks like, or Hell; the claim of what God does to the wicked for an eternity to men, women and children, not only is the claim false, but that is indeed a legitimate Prophet who is false, especially one who claims to be a Prophet Inspired.

Goodness me,,,you certainly do your reasearch…

Due to the history that transpired after Apostle John, you can't attest to the Mainstream notion to assume such abilities still take place today.
You need be careful, for if the abilities that the Chosen and John had; people having this today, we would have never had the events of 325AD.
I had reasons to bring up Constantine.
That being said, what I quoted originally of which you ignored, refutes the claim, for Prophesying cannot be confused with what a Prophet Inspired is capable of vs a Prophet Not Inspired.
Also read carefully next time, for this was presented to you before:
 
It is not wise to confuse things as the Mainstreamers do.
As a side note, I talked about this when someone brought up those who claim to have visions of Hell.
The added irony to this, @Kosonen, who is also said to be chosen, would say something to a similar effect as I have.

The thing is, this is true, there is no one after John that is an Prophet Inspired, who outlived everyone, even those at Pentecost, who is a Prophet Inspired. This is extremely obvious due to the fact you have many denominations regarding the Abrahamic Faith, the existence of 2 factions of Christendom, etc. Likewise with the numerous Bible Translations, even revised. This is why I said to @Srecko Sostar and @Witness before, even now, for should a Prophet Inspired did exist, be it one or a few, we would not be in the position we are in now, essentially. Not to mention, the students of Apostle John and their ordeal cannot go unnoticed.
God has already made this clear, as did our Christian brothers and sisters before us.
I do not see why you take such disdain for a Prophet Not Inspired, which is what you are, myself, and others. For we have things we can do although our Inspired counterparts have done better.
I do not pretend. Hermeneutics is vital. As is research and study.
You are now focus on the chosen, even concerning them, the abilities of which was mentioned, died with the Last Apostle. None of them today, Solider of God, and or others, or the ones of whom the Jehovah's Witnesses say is chosen, all of them are not Prophets Inspired.
Although our past counterparts had such abilities, those today, 2nd century and onward, do not.
Granted, I mention this all the time and now you seem to notice this.
I am well aware, but clearly no one after John had such abilities. You can't even prove it, should you try.
But if you want to be my guess, and if I am in the wrong here, what is stopping you from naming a Prophet Inspired today?
We both know about the Chosen, but the Bible is clear on things pertaining to Apostle John. And what transpired afterwards prior to Constantine having his hand in Christianity.
As pointed out, if Prophets Inspired existed after John's death, his students would not be in a difficult position, Christianity would still be like that of the Apostolic Early Church with no shift or change from Roman Emperors of the rise of Catholicism. No Holy Wars would exist in which blood is spilled on soil, for God's people will be unified against threat, and there would not be any other faction of Christendom, let alone denominations. The only thing we'd be dealing with possibly is those who have a believe in False Gods/Goddesses only like that of God's people in Ancient Israel, or something to a similar effect.
Because John's students and those after them do not have such abilities. No one can transfigure, no one can attest to having visions and or revelations from God concerning the things to come. All we have is what is written and we do out best to adhere to it. Likewise with the events, 2nd century, to the 4th concerning the Council of Nicaea and onward, Bible Translations, etc.
It's pretty obvious.
Not really because if that were the case, you'd realize the position of the students of the Apostle, who knew God's Word on the same level of Apostle John.
You never apply discernment, so how can you tell?
Not really. But that is quite the accusation.
The Watchtower is aware that they are not Prophets Inspired. If they did have absolute power, then they would have been in KAIROS as the majority of Christendom.
You aren't if you didn't realize Apostle John had students.
Actually you have in the past. A specific Bible Strong's can be coined.
That being said, it is pretty odd as to how both you and @Witness or not only downplaying the students of John who was at his level concerning God's Word, but the history of the 2nd century to the 4th century. For what reason? A mystery.
Surely, former Jehovah's Witnesses would do better than that, but as I said in the past, even recently, Mainstream ideas tend to get the best of you.

It seems that most people on here lack real faith in YHWH and through Yeshua. 
I think Space Merchant is treading a very dangerous path for himself, but why would he ?
Well why do the GB of the Watchtower tread that same path ? It's all to do with 'power' and control.
Some people do not want to accept that Yeshua has been given all authority in Heaven and on Earth. 
Yeshua could send angels to give messages to True Anointed ones if Yeshua so wishes. 
Yeshua could send the Holy Spirit from God to True Anointed ones if Yeshua so wishes. 
Miracles have not ceased, and will not cease. 
Yes I AM, Patiently waiting for Truth. 
But I'm NOT pretending that I know more that others. 

Wrong, "real" JWs respect the 8 men as fellow servants. You are the one making them out to be something they are not. The respect as inscribed in scripture is for the weight and responsibility they have before God.
Wrong, that's you take not the truth. Baptism is made before God.
The choice has always been for the individual to serve God properly. You are an example of that choice.
If a person has no Christian conscience such as former witnesses, how can you explain by your choice why you weren't taken over by the GB and Elders? Wouldn't you, in effect, be in control of an institution like a zombie?
I believe there has been ample evidence to show how the Watchtower has dealt with child abuse through the decades. Aside from the notifications to the Elders, there are plenty of Watchtower articles condemning such behavior.
That you have a different agenda to make false claims, then that's on you, and former and present Jehovah's Witnesses here.

Besides, unless I am very mistaken (which is possible—there’s only so much you can discern online) you have broken that pattern by softening somewhat. Otherwise, I agree with you that no one has budged one iota.
That makes you the least calcified of all here!
you ‘ol pork chop

Not to worry. You’re good here—I mean, relatively.

Because drivel, and trivia are the same thing, and both are ENTERTAINING. Your assumption is based on two false premises.
In all the years this entire motley  crew have assembled here, I venture NOT ONE has changed his mind about anything said here.
….. and TTH, I did not say it was a complete waste of time.  Not completely, anyway.
I do enjoy drivel and trivia and arcane information. You never know when someone will ask who Krypto was, or Mr. Ed’s real name, or what town in New York is associated by with small yellow boxes, or 42.
Simply, it’s FUN to know!
 

Ha! Yeah, like another one who regularly complains of “no spirituality here” and yet shows up as reliably as the rising sun.
Shakespeare it ain’t but if it is a complete waste of time what does that say about the person who constantly attends to it?

Then why stay? If you just read our drivel to make yourself feel superior, I can give you a few websites you can visit which will stimulate your superior intellect. 

About prophesy, none of us should say with "absolute certainty", that prophesy has ceased.  If we do, we have exalted ourselves above the power and ability of the Father.  We are suggesting that we know His plan. 
“Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.” 1 Cor 13:8-10
Has “the perfect” arrived yet?
Have people stopped speaking other “tongues”/languages?
Has knowledge ceased? 
“But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”  Dan 12:4
If the languages still exist, as well as an increase in spiritual knowledge, then why would prophesy, which imparts the knowledge of God, cease?
John the Baptist came ‘in the manner’ of Elijah, prophesying the need for God’s people to repent, to prepare a people for the coming of the Son of Man.  In the last days, another “Elijah” comes to God’s holy people.  This one also “prophesies” the need for them to repent. 
Matt 17:10,11 -  And His disciples asked Him, saying, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming  first and will restore all things. “
Messengers from God receive visions and dreams, to understand the message that they are to impart.  God’s words are put in their mouth.
Num 12:6 - Then He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream.”
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” Mal 4
“Behold, I send My messenger,
And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek,
Will suddenly come to His temple,
Even the Messenger of the covenant,
In whom you delight.
Behold, He is coming,”
Says the Lord of hosts. Mal 3:1-3
Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”  Rev 11:1-3
“prophesy” - to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict
In this case of the “Gentiles” standing in the Temple of God, this is not the Roman army that invaded the literal city and temple in Jerusalem.  This is describing the "man of lawlessness" in the last days, another “Gentile” entity that now “sits” in the Temple dwelling of God – elders who “represent the royal priesthood”.  The message to JWs, to God’s holy priesthood, is to flee if any perceive this abomination. Matt 24:15,16
Never in God’s word, does it condone the replacement of God’s priests. 
So the Lord said to Aaron, “You and your sons and your father's house with you shall bear iniquity connected with the sanctuary, and you and your sons with you shall bear iniquity connected with your priesthood.
 And you and your sons with you shall guard your priesthood for all that concerns the altar and that is within the veil; and you shall serve. I give your priesthood as a gift,[a] and any outsider who comes near shall be put to death.”  Num 18:1,7
So, God anoints particular people to be His priests, members of the Body of Christ, and “living stones” of the Temple.  Yet, the elders have boldly replaced them, which transgresses all that the scriptures tell us, about God’s appointed priesthood.  This is why a prophet brings God’s message to His people, in the last days. Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4
Jesus words do not die.  We are judged by his words. (John 12:48)   If there were not to be any more prophets, why would he have said,
"Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward."  Matt 10:41
And why would the apostle Paul mentioned prophets as part of the foundation of the Temple/dwelling of God? Eph 2:20-22
 
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It is worth noting that there were plenty of false brothers in Paul’s day and they made considerable trouble for him.
“ in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers among false brothers,  (2 Corinthians 11:26)
Having said that, I don’t know that those in Matthew’s past were necessarily false. They were just pieces of work.

I’ve tried to be patient with you but your viciousness and vile talk against so many cannot go on any longer.
you do have a lot of knowledge which I upvote often..because it is truth ..but the way you talk to people and about people cancels all that out as worthless.
I personally don’t know any witness who would speak as you do and cast others into damnation  and death as you so quickly do.
I think you need to ban yourself now as you are putting your own life In spiritual jeopardy.
I certainly hope those that read here realize witnesses are not at all like you..and you would never be tolerated  in any cong for speaking as you do.
 

….. better to leave Comedy to the professionals

I am happy you have found comfort with another family…but Mathew please understand that there are others who have been badly hurt within their congregation…you described your terrible conditions inflicted on you…well I can honestly say my appalling experience within the cong was far worse than that…and it took me some time to come and see that it was done by individuals who abused their positions of power with in the cong,…I also have seen what I call false brothers and real brothers ….there are some I will call made up of fairy floss and no real substance to them….but there are many who are fighting to be as good as they can in a world full of wickedness …and are weary with the stake they carry…and I hope one day that your wounds may heal a little..perhaps the time is not now….but future…I genuinely wish you nothing but calmness and peace..and please don’t hate us all…we are not all the same…for myself I know full well I certainly am a broken Cracked vessel …and many of us are not worth anything really but stand before our God like Joshua did in rotten dirty clothes .
Take comfort in that Jehovah sees all…and he remembers your tears
 

Is this where you find yourself, daily? Well, you do need to keep the government happy! 😋

Are you speaking from experience? LOL!!! 😂

My guess is that he is trying to elevate himself by disparaging and slandering everyone else.

I cut you considerable slack when you spoke of weird things in your past. Especially did Thinking do so. And that was before you dropped this game changer: 
Hgp just addressed the plain facts of your statements, without knowledge or reference to your history. You have no reason to complain of your treatment here. Nobody has laughed at you on this thread.
Dimitar has beaten you up, probably, but he beats up everybody and no one can figure out where he is coming from.

You SERIOUSLY need a hobby, preferably one that does not require any human interaction.
 

So to sum up your guys position, jw's will only help jw's, got it. But will give free watchtower studies to a person fleeing a war torn country, got it.
JW's claim they do more to provide charity than anyone else, and refuse to back up that claim...got it.
And again jw's turn to personal attacks, deflection and changing the subject when pressed to provide proof of their claim.
My childhood consisted of broken bones, lots of blood loss, hospitalizations, etc, if jw's enjoy having a little laugh about extreme child abuse....you most definitely have a demonic spirit guiding your thoughts.
I'll leave you all with this then I'll shut up.
Crimes Committed by Jehovah's Witnesses (avoidjw.org)