Evacuated

Paul's words from 1Thess. 5:4 are the most significant in this thread for me.

First definition for "grace" given by Merriam-Webster is:
unmerited divine assistance given humans for their regeneration or sanctification
so it would appear not.

First definition for "grace" given by Merriam-Webster is:
unmerited divine assistance given humans for their regeneration or sanctification
so it would appear not.

This  a logical view, but unfortunately is taken from a human standpoint with all the limitations that imposes so, really, what would be accomplished?.
It is easy to look at past teachings now. For example, I think today only a small minority would look at the pyramidology persuasion and view it as anything other than "nonsensical gibberish",  a conclusion which Jehovah's Witnesses came to themselves. However, there are also those who look at our teachings on the human soul, hellfire, Trinity, evolution, and such like and view them similarly.
I personally don't feel qualified to review Jehovah or Jesus's judgement processes. I don't think I am party to all the facts of the matter and even if I was, to weigh and test those facts against a criteria that I am also not party to is, frankly, way above my pay grade.
There is also the business of what it is that Jehovah evaluates. The statements at 2 Chr. 16:9 "For the eyes of Jehovah are roving about through all the earth to show his strength in behalf of those whose heart is complete toward him", and Pro. 21:2 "All of a man’s ways seem right to him, But Jehovah examines the hearts" take the business of judgement into a completely different arena, way out of human experience or capability.
Paul got it right about Jehovah's judgements at Ro 11:33 "O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and beyond tracing out his ways are!" and I am quite happy to accept them on that basis.

Oh! You didn't read Psalm 119 yet. That will help you resolve your problem.

That's probably the first. I was thinking about a discussion in a 1949 Watchtower I had just read, but when I check the Publications Index I see there were also several from the 1930's, including Vindication and the booklet the same year, "The Final War" (1932).
Your analogy to buildings appears to work from the perspective of the doctrine. People saw the building (system) collapse in some way in 1914. Some were closer to understanding the underlying reasons and some would (or could) find out later if they would so choose.

Well, he was faithful wasn't he? He will be back. The date of the talk is the crucial clue anyway!!

Absolutely. The first picture has the same little girl there behind him. The cart titles are the same. However, the date 1944 is accurate whereas 1930 is questionable. 

*** w02 6/15 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers *** Questions From Readers ... Any future prospect for the dead is in the hands of Jehovah, and no one is in a position to say whether the deceased will be resurrected or not.

According to Gods word the Bible, through one man, Adam, sin entered into the world and death through sin,
and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned Romans 5:12. Romans 6:23 also says For the wages
sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. Jesus died for all mankind, opening
up a chance of everlasting life here on earth, by means of a resurrection. I believe that Jehovah reads our hearts, he nows 
the pain people feel to end there life, it is a sin to take your own life, but Jehovah is the judge of all circumstances.

Is this the same boy?
Can we get some clarity on this? Maybe more information on the brother in the picture who you tell us was a missionary and died in Sep 2014.
The talk advertised "The Kingdom of God is Nigh" was given at the Assembly in1944, much later than 1930. 
As you can see in the attached photo here,  this seems  to be the same little brother with a book released that same year 1944, "The Kingdom is at Hand".
Any further detail would be much appreciated. 
Thanks

Is this the same boy?
Can we get some clarity on this? Maybe more information on the brother in the picture who you tell us was a missionary and died in Sep 2014.
The talk advertised "The Kingdom of God is Nigh" was given at the Assembly in1944, much later than 1930. 
As you can see in the attached photo here,  this seems  to be the same little brother with a book released that same year 1944, "The Kingdom is at Hand".
Any further detail would be much appreciated. 
Thanks

Those who no longer want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses are free to leave, any time. They will not, and never have been shunned. Jehovah's Witnesses who practice sin, and are not repentant, or those who deliberately and maliciously disrupt the peace of the congregation will be disfellowshipped and as such will be shunned by the members of the congregation. Disfellowshipping does not have to be a permanent status.Those who show a repentant attitude and "works" of repentance will be welcomed back. The fact that this lady had been disfellowshipped for 20 years, from what I understand, means she never sought reistatement during those 20 years (!) I ask myself why?? "especially that she truly believed in God and that the organization (JW) is his tool".

What news?

4 hrs ago @Nicole said:
"Radical hate preacher Anjem Choudary has renounced his Muslim faith after being forced to share a cell with a particularly persistent Jehovah’s Witness."
 
Pah! Complete garbage!

For me at least it matters not how far references go back either in Watchtower (WT) or any publications cited in these postings. I quoted from an 1823 publication in a recent post myself because I felt it relevant to a point I was making.
I suppose I have an advantage over some in that I am able to check the context of any of the old WT quotes because I have a pretty extensive archive of publications, although of course anyone can build or access a pretty comprehensive electronic library these days if they wish.
I suppose what is more important than the vintage of the quoted references is the point they are being used to substantiate and I suspect that this would be more the cause of irritation for some rather than the age of the quotes themselves.
I think the point  referenced in the WT of 2/15/1981 which is quoted above is relevant: "at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe."
Corrected views? I see it as a continuation of the process described at Acts 18:26 regarding Apollos "Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him" and similar to what Paul said at 1Cor 9-13 "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially,"
So for me, apart from satisfying my curiosity in the development of understanding amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and it's historical context, little more is gained from these "hoary, old chestnuts" of WT quotes apart from proof of the italicised statement above. They are often used to support veiled or overt inferences to some sort of conspiracy theory scenario enacted by "old men in Brooklyn" (not so old these days). These arguments abound on the internet and their appearance on a public forum such as this is unsurprising. But even this designation will need a refinement soon to "old men in Warwick" won't it? These innuendos I do find offensive, but then I can choose to ignore them quite easily.
Let freedom of expression prevail, but if you do claim to represent the Master Teacher, let his style of expression dominate also:
"And they all began to give favorable witness about him and to be amazed at the gracious words coming out of his mouth"    Luke 4:22

For me at least it matters not how far references go back either in Watchtower (WT) or any publications cited in these postings. I quoted from an 1823 publication in a recent post myself because I felt it relevant to a point I was making.
I suppose I have an advantage over some in that I am able to check the context of any of the old WT quotes because I have a pretty extensive archive of publications, although of course anyone can build or access a pretty comprehensive electronic library these days if they wish.
I suppose what is more important than the vintage of the quoted references is the point they are being used to substantiate and I suspect that this would be more the cause of irritation for some rather than the age of the quotes themselves.
I think the point  referenced in the WT of 2/15/1981 which is quoted above is relevant: "at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe."
Corrected views? I see it as a continuation of the process described at Acts 18:26 regarding Apollos "Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him" and similar to what Paul said at 1Cor 9-13 "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially,"
So for me, apart from satisfying my curiosity in the development of understanding amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and it's historical context, little more is gained from these "hoary, old chestnuts" of WT quotes apart from proof of the italicised statement above. They are often used to support veiled or overt inferences to some sort of conspiracy theory scenario enacted by "old men in Brooklyn" (not so old these days). These arguments abound on the internet and their appearance on a public forum such as this is unsurprising. But even this designation will need a refinement soon to "old men in Warwick" won't it? These innuendos I do find offensive, but then I can choose to ignore them quite easily.
Let freedom of expression prevail, but if you do claim to represent the Master Teacher, let his style of expression dominate also:
"And they all began to give favorable witness about him and to be amazed at the gracious words coming out of his mouth"    Luke 4:22

As I said, local conditions will determine an appropriate response to your request if you make it.
I do not think it appropriate myself to comment in a public forum about how specifically Jehovah's Witnesses meet the challenge  of fulfilling Jesus command to make disciples where there are current restrictions on that work.
Rest assured, if you wish to study the Bible, nothing can stop Jehovah from ensuring you get access to the truth. Pray to him and let him know what you desire. He will see to it that you get the spiritual food you need.
2 Chr. 28:9: "Jehovah searches through all hearts, and he discerns every inclination of the thoughts. If you seach for him, he will let himself be found by you"

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As I said, local conditions will determine an appropriate response to your request if you make it.
I do not think it appropriate myself to comment in a public forum about how specifically Jehovah's Witnesses meet the challenge  of fulfilling Jesus command to make disciples where there are current restrictions on that work.
Rest assured, if you wish to study the Bible, nothing can stop Jehovah from ensuring you get access to the truth. Pray to him and let him know what you desire. He will see to it that you get the spiritual food you need.
2 Chr. 28:9: "Jehovah searches through all hearts, and he discerns every inclination of the thoughts. If you seach for him, he will let himself be found by you"

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For me at least it matters not how far references go back either in Watchtower (WT) or any publications cited in these postings. I quoted from an 1823 publication in a recent post myself because I felt it relevant to a point I was making.
I suppose I have an advantage over some in that I am able to check the context of any of the old WT quotes because I have a pretty extensive archive of publications, although of course anyone can build or access a pretty comprehensive electronic library these days if they wish.
I suppose what is more important than the vintage of the quoted references is the point they are being used to substantiate and I suspect that this would be more the cause of irritation for some rather than the age of the quotes themselves.
I think the point  referenced in the WT of 2/15/1981 which is quoted above is relevant: "at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe."
Corrected views? I see it as a continuation of the process described at Acts 18:26 regarding Apollos "Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him" and similar to what Paul said at 1Cor 9-13 "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially,"
So for me, apart from satisfying my curiosity in the development of understanding amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and it's historical context, little more is gained from these "hoary, old chestnuts" of WT quotes apart from proof of the italicised statement above. They are often used to support veiled or overt inferences to some sort of conspiracy theory scenario enacted by "old men in Brooklyn" (not so old these days). These arguments abound on the internet and their appearance on a public forum such as this is unsurprising. But even this designation will need a refinement soon to "old men in Warwick" won't it? These innuendos I do find offensive, but then I can choose to ignore them quite easily.
Let freedom of expression prevail, but if you do claim to represent the Master Teacher, let his style of expression dominate also:
"And they all began to give favorable witness about him and to be amazed at the gracious words coming out of his mouth"    Luke 4:22

For me at least it matters not how far references go back either in Watchtower (WT) or any publications cited in these postings. I quoted from an 1823 publication in a recent post myself because I felt it relevant to a point I was making.
I suppose I have an advantage over some in that I am able to check the context of any of the old WT quotes because I have a pretty extensive archive of publications, although of course anyone can build or access a pretty comprehensive electronic library these days if they wish.
I suppose what is more important than the vintage of the quoted references is the point they are being used to substantiate and I suspect that this would be more the cause of irritation for some rather than the age of the quotes themselves.
I think the point  referenced in the WT of 2/15/1981 which is quoted above is relevant: "at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe."
Corrected views? I see it as a continuation of the process described at Acts 18:26 regarding Apollos "Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him" and similar to what Paul said at 1Cor 9-13 "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially,"
So for me, apart from satisfying my curiosity in the development of understanding amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and it's historical context, little more is gained from these "hoary, old chestnuts" of WT quotes apart from proof of the italicised statement above. They are often used to support veiled or overt inferences to some sort of conspiracy theory scenario enacted by "old men in Brooklyn" (not so old these days). These arguments abound on the internet and their appearance on a public forum such as this is unsurprising. But even this designation will need a refinement soon to "old men in Warwick" won't it? These innuendos I do find offensive, but then I can choose to ignore them quite easily.
Let freedom of expression prevail, but if you do claim to represent the Master Teacher, let his style of expression dominate also:
"And they all began to give favorable witness about him and to be amazed at the gracious words coming out of his mouth"    Luke 4:22

I have found it easy to refute the trinity by using good scriptures and refute the immortality of the soul by using potent scriptures...and they are not all in the same chapter...they are all over the place.
I, of course just sow the seeds - in all cases it is Jehovah who gives the growth....   I also believe that in the congregation people may have problems to grow - an it is usually personal baggage or pride/ego which stands in the way.     
Each person has to make sure of the truth for themselves (and while I also do criticize some things I do not like)  I always remember where I learnt the things I understand so well today.   If it was not for the work of the slave... I would still be in the darkness of the religious maze in the world.   Each person must do due diligence. Fortunately, I do like history and I do like learning.
Therefore let us all show a thankful attitude to Jehovah for caring so much for each individual to send people to our doors, public places, etc to carry a life-giving message.  It is the slave who is providing the materials and easy information for us to share in many languages (even tribal languages).  They are the ones who constantly try to inspire us to do this work and devise methods to try to get all of us to be more active in the field......
 
 

I believe its song 120 Listen Obey and Be Blessed
 
Edit: The chorus