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James Thomas Rook Jr.

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  1. Bruceq:

    Are you saying that if I am greviously injured, or any of my Brothers are greviously injured by some petty tyranny ( as opposed to grand tyranny .. like being taken outside to a pit and being shot in the back of the head...), by those charged with shepherding the congregation, that I am supposed to sit back and smile while or after a figurative corkscrew is or has been inserted in  my butt and rotated, or sit by and watch it being done without vehement protest?

    .... I look forward to your answer.

  2. bruceq:

    No... there is no similarity ... Moses was not only inspired by God .. through an Angel he spoke directly with God, and God performed MANY bonafide miracles through him.

    Neither I or the Governing Body is inspired by God or are infallable ... in BOTH cases its only a guess ... we are both blind.

    However, every once and awhile ... even blind squirrels find an acorn ... and when they cross the road ... or cross roads at other squirrels' urging ... they get killed or maimed.

  3. Eoin:

    sigh ... let me rephrase that and add a short comment ...

    5 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    If WE are wrong we have to pay the price.

    If THEY are wrong ... we STILL have to pay the price.

     

    5 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    They pay NO PRICE WHATSOEVER FOR BEING WRONG ... EVER.

    If they are wrong ... WE still have to pay the price.

    If the Collective Governing Body makes a mistake, and Brothers die or their lives are destroyed unnecessarily ... who fires the Governing Body?

    They were FORCED by the Australian Royal Commission ( by being put under Oath ...) to admit for the first time that they were neither inspired by God, nor infallible.

    They never even APOLOGIZE for being wrong.

     

  4. 16 minutes ago, Eoin Joyce said:

    We discussed this issue in our Pioneer school.

    The unanimous conclusion was that the Bible indicates clearly that there is more happiness in giving,  but says nothing about there being no happiness in receiving.

    You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT Eoin .... In fact, if somehow Ah received, say, 100 Million Dollars, I would be positively ORGASMIC!

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  5. ...

    Years ago, I was visiting the Falling Creek Congregation, on Route 1, in Richmond, VA, and being 6'-6" tall, I am usually the tallest person in the room.  After the meeting, someone tapped me on the shoulder from behind and I turned around to look into a Brother's SHIRT POCKET.

    It so disoriented me I can't remember anything else about him, except when we shook hands, mine looked like a child's by comparison.

    I had been "minimalized".

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  6. .. and THAT is why we have a conscience ...... because the Governing Body, by their own recent admission forced by GB member Geoffery Jackson in the ARC hearings ... are neither inspired of God, or infallible.

    If WE are wrong we have to pay the price.

    If THEY are wrong ... we STILL have to pay the price.

    They pay NO PRICE WHATSOEVER FOR BEING WRONG ... EVER.

    Who knew?

  7. Everybody taking the "Vow of Poverty", after reading it, realizes that they are being treated equally ... but some are more equal than others.  Our meeting is on Saturday, and yesterday an elderly black Sister mentioned when the subject came up during the Watchtower Study, that the vow did not include if a person had "Old Money", and then she explained what that was .... and I thought that  from photos seen of the Governing Body, ALSO apparently does not include $21,000 Rolex Wrist Watches.

     

  8. Melinda:

    As Sean Connery said in the James Bond  movie "Thunderball",

    ..... " Was there ever a man more misunderstood?"

    Please re-read what I actually said ...

    I could explain it to you, but that would take the fun and amazement out of self discovery.

    Also please note that I did NOT contradict what God has stated through Isaiah, or assume God or Isaiah was guessing! .... merely given you the key to discover it for yourself ... if you are willing to do the hard work of thinking, IN CONTEXT, what Isaiah was actually saying.

    The KEY is verses 4 and 5. It STARTS the style of "simile" that continues.

    YOU do the heavy lifting.

    Here is a "wheelbarrow" you can use to get started ...

    http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-similes.html

    Remember: CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING!

    ... That is why I quoted FIFTEEN verses ... and not just two verses.

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  9. ISAIAH 11:1-15: (See my previous comments IN THIS THREAD , AND the highlighted portion in context, below ... AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IS REASONABLE AND SANE!
     
    1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the LORD—
    3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;
    4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
    5 Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist.
    6 The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them.
    7 The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
    8 The infant will play near the cobra’s den, and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.
    9 They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.
    10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his resting place will be glorious.
    11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the Mediterranean.
    12 He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.
    13 Ephraim’s jealousy will vanish, and Judah’s enemies will be destroyed; Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah, nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.
    14 They will swoop down on the slopes of Philistia to the west; together they will plunder the people to the east. They will subdue Edom and Moab, and the Ammonites will be subject to them.
    15 The LORD will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that anyone can cross over in sandals.
     
    On 5/29/2017 at 8:53 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    Among God's people the lion will eat straw, as lambs being eaten scare children ... very messy ... but all animals in their natural environment will eat what they ALWAYS have eaten, and what they were DESIGNED to eat.

    All else is a cartoon fantasy that would embarrass Walt Disney.

    TO UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE IT WAS meant TO BE SIMPLE ... JUST READ IT IN CONTEXT .. AND USE PLAIN OLD COMMON SENSE.

    You don't haul timber in a Corvette Automobile, or Race a Concrete Truck at 125 miles per hour .... but in today's world, you have to put WARNING STICKERS on child car seats ....  "Do not fold up car seat with child inside".

    THINK people .... THINK!

    And while you are thinking ... read verses 4 and 5 about six times ...until you figure out that what I just stated may be a total load of drivel

    OF COURSE I am guessing!

    ...  SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE!

     

     

     

  10. I would have to know more about the subject being debated .. I may not be an impartial judge, or referee .... if you intend to challenge him on some subject .. it should be until there is only one man standing. 

    Among INTELLIGENT honest men of integrity, which I assume you both are, one will concede the debate points originally premised, and see the other is correct, WITHOUT THE NEED TO APPEAL TO AN OUTSIDE AUTHORITY FOR VALIDATION.

    I WILL, however,  put my "two cents" in and help in my usual manner ...

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  11. You have already conceded, True (Tom), by default, for leaving the battlefield, and by surrender, when you "overturned your King".

    Using YOUR logic, you have  self-forfeited the right to disagree with anybody about anything .... and only think approved happy thoughts.

    You cannot even reply to THIS!

    Stupidity would be to referee a fight already lost.

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  12. Tommy Tom Tom:

    I have spent several hours reading your blog "SheepandGoats", and I was impressed with the quality of your communication skills in that forum ... I especially liked your treatment of Mickey Spillane .... but when in a discussion of things where people's viewpoints strongly differ .. IT IS A DEBATE ... and that is how adults sift out bad ideas, and set them aside .. on the intellectual battlefield.

    IN CONTEXT of the discussions, you "took your ball, and went home ...", thereby AVOIDING THE ISSUES, which were left to stand.

    ... like turning over your King, half way through a chess game.

    Debate is sometimes a war of attrition ... until the last of the opponent's ideas are individually squashed.  That is basically how the "Scientific Method" works also ... and that effort is the ONLY way that real truth is separated from comfortable fiction.

    You cannot LEAVE THE BATTLEFIELD while the opponents' army of ideas are still standing erect and strong.

    I can see BOTH viewpoints .. but to "win the day" you have to finish the fight.

    The "Rubber Duck" theory states that you have to explain what you believe to the rubber duck until it becomes crystal clear what ideas we hold are real, and which are stupid.

    This forum is our "Rubber Duck".

    This is the issue that Shiwiii proposed, and that you avoided by conceding the battle:

    " I would have to disagree with you. The eunuch from Ethiopia was not a part of ANY organization and nor did he have any agency to guide him when he was speaking with Phillip. The lands that the early disciples went to and converted folks had no "agency" as told to us in the Bible. Also,  Paul and Barnabas did not appeal to an agency about those in Jerusalem over the idea of circumcision of the gentiles, but rather corrected the Pharisees (who converted) about bringing additional restrictions/ unfair yoke, upon the believers."

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  13. 16 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    It will be interesting to see, although I already see the current outcome, and forsee the ultimate outcome, if you decide to continue this exchange using Scripture, reason and logic.

    It is embarrassing to see someone cut off their OWN head, to have someone else hand it back to them ... on a platter.

    Nothing else need be said.

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