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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Giannis Diamantis in Is homosexuality a reason to get a brother permission to have a scriptural divorce and remarry?   
    *** w72 12/15 p. 768 Questions From Readers ***  (continuation from above)
    Taking Jesus’ words for what they mean, therefore, when a mate is guilty of such serious sexual immorality the innocent mate may Scripturally divorce such a one, if he or she so desires. One who obtains a divorce on such Scriptural grounds is also Scripturally free to remarry, not thereby being subject to a charge of adultery.
    This clearly marks a correction in the view expressed on previous occasions in the columns of this magazine, but faithful adherence to what the Scriptures actually say requires it. There is much more that can be considered on the matter and for that reason it will be discussed more completely in a coming issue of this magazine.
     
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Sarah gibson in Unbelieving spouses   
    *** it-1 p. 1131 Holiness ***
    Holiness blessed by Jehovah. Holiness on a person’s part carries with it merit from God in the individual’s family relationship. Thus, if a married person is a Christian, holy to God, this one’s mate and the children of the union, if not themselves dedicated servants of God, benefit from the merit of the one who is holy. For this reason the apostle recommends: “If any brother has an unbelieving wife, and yet she is agreeable to dwelling with him, let him not leave her; and a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and yet he is agreeable to dwelling with her, let her not leave her husband. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would really be unclean, but now they are holy.” (1Co 7:12-14) The clean, believing mate is therefore not unclean by relations with the unbelieving mate, and the family as a unit is not viewed by God as unclean. Furthermore, the association of the believer with the family provides any unbelievers therein the finest of opportunities to become believers, to make over their personalities, and to present their bodies “a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God.” (Ro 12:1; Col 3:9, 10) In the clean, holy atmosphere that the believer serving God can promote, the family is blessed
     
    *** it-1 p. 342 Blessing ***
    Being a Blessing to Others. A person can be a blessing to his fellowman by following a course of obedience to God. The association of such ones whom Jehovah blesses brings blessings to others. Laban was blessed because Jacob kept his flocks. (Ge 30:27, 30) Potiphar’s household and field prospered because of Joseph’s oversight. (Ge 39:5) The presence of ten righteous citizens could have caused God to spare Sodom. (Ge 18:32) The dedicated servant of God can bring God’s favorable consideration to an unbelieving mate and their young children. (1Co 7:14)
     
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Anna in REINSTATEMENT No3   
    Unwarranted acts often produce consequences that can't be fixed satisfactorily in this system. However, both sides can be humble and come to an agreement. Love conquer all things.
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Anna in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    Enjoyed all the comments.  I also think Jay would get the point and the spirit behind the comments. (Love the reference to Matt 23:23,24) However, the Word of God is alive an these scriptures can reinforce some of the points.
    True Christians are never on holiday from their service to God. They serve him full time in thought, word and deed
    (1 Cor 10:31-33) 31 Therefore, whether you are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God’s glory. 32 Keep from becoming causes for stumbling to Jews as well as Greeks and to the congregation of God, 33 just as I am trying to please all people in all things, not seeking my own advantage, but that of the many, so that they may be saved.
    True Christians serve God with their power of reason - they use their minds and conscience
    (Romans 12:1) Therefore, I appeal to you by the compassions of God, brothers, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.
    True Christians are interested in doing good work and helping others at all times (whether they can report the activity or not)
    (Colossians 3:22) You slaves, be obedient in everything to those who are your human masters, not only when they are watching, just to please men, but with sincerity of heart, with fear of Jehovah.
    Do what you have resolved in your own heart for God and your neighbour. Enjoy your service and be happy. God will not forget your good work and the love you showed for his name (written down or not written).
    Agape
     
     
     
     
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Joe Smith in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    You see Jay - the focus is all skewed. here you are obsessing about the TIME and you have not told us about the VISIT itself. Who did you visit? How are they? What Experiences did they have to share with you ? What Gift did you impart to them by way of the interchange? What needs do they have? etc etc etc
    Instead the man-made Pharasaical style rules cloud the whole matter for you - its the TIME the TIME all about the TIME
    I do volunteer work in poverty-stricken communities in my city - the last thing on my mind is the TIME I spend there -
    And btw NO ! According to the man-made Pharasaical Style Rulz you cant count the TIME - it should be part of your Sacred Service - If they are baptised you cant count the TIME -
    So dump the visits to the faithful oldies if you are concerned about getting your TIME in !
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from The Librarian in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    Enjoyed all the comments.  I also think Jay would get the point and the spirit behind the comments. (Love the reference to Matt 23:23,24) However, the Word of God is alive an these scriptures can reinforce some of the points.
    True Christians are never on holiday from their service to God. They serve him full time in thought, word and deed
    (1 Cor 10:31-33) 31 Therefore, whether you are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God’s glory. 32 Keep from becoming causes for stumbling to Jews as well as Greeks and to the congregation of God, 33 just as I am trying to please all people in all things, not seeking my own advantage, but that of the many, so that they may be saved.
    True Christians serve God with their power of reason - they use their minds and conscience
    (Romans 12:1) Therefore, I appeal to you by the compassions of God, brothers, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.
    True Christians are interested in doing good work and helping others at all times (whether they can report the activity or not)
    (Colossians 3:22) You slaves, be obedient in everything to those who are your human masters, not only when they are watching, just to please men, but with sincerity of heart, with fear of Jehovah.
    Do what you have resolved in your own heart for God and your neighbour. Enjoy your service and be happy. God will not forget your good work and the love you showed for his name (written down or not written).
    Agape
     
     
     
     
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Beverly Brake in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    Enjoyed all the comments.  I also think Jay would get the point and the spirit behind the comments. (Love the reference to Matt 23:23,24) However, the Word of God is alive an these scriptures can reinforce some of the points.
    True Christians are never on holiday from their service to God. They serve him full time in thought, word and deed
    (1 Cor 10:31-33) 31 Therefore, whether you are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God’s glory. 32 Keep from becoming causes for stumbling to Jews as well as Greeks and to the congregation of God, 33 just as I am trying to please all people in all things, not seeking my own advantage, but that of the many, so that they may be saved.
    True Christians serve God with their power of reason - they use their minds and conscience
    (Romans 12:1) Therefore, I appeal to you by the compassions of God, brothers, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.
    True Christians are interested in doing good work and helping others at all times (whether they can report the activity or not)
    (Colossians 3:22) You slaves, be obedient in everything to those who are your human masters, not only when they are watching, just to please men, but with sincerity of heart, with fear of Jehovah.
    Do what you have resolved in your own heart for God and your neighbour. Enjoy your service and be happy. God will not forget your good work and the love you showed for his name (written down or not written).
    Agape
     
     
     
     
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Ann O'Maly in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    Lol. Absolutely! And the beans JWs have to count are getting smaller and smaller - every tract, every JW video shown, every pdf sent. I think of Matt. 23:23, 24.
    Enjoy your hot, sunny, late summer afternoon. Hmpf. I'm not jealous. Honest.
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    Melinda Mills reacted to runtifus in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    To me it's not about counting the time but encouraging our brothers and sisters. If all you are concerned about is counting time...do it elsewhere. If they are baptized I would think it would not be appropriate. Should be putting our hearts into that visit and be genuinely concerned about their spiritual health.
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Joe Smith in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    Ann O'Maly Thanks for the rap on the knuckles - I should have used the 3rd person as my post was a bit of a rant - And it pays not to type any responses when you are ticked off or angry - Point taken - My reference to time-counting being an obsession within the JW ORG still stands though -
    Stay well !
    Oh....good morning from my world [at time of posting] It should reach 30 deg C today -
    http://www.kapstadt.de/panorama/milnerton-tafelberg-nach-westen.html =  Panoramic view check it out

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    Melinda Mills reacted to Ann O'Maly in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    You may have missed where Jay Witness said he didn't agree with his friends counting time for this. So it's an open question he's asking rather than an 'obsession.'
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Queen Esther in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    PS.  You're  both  right  in  some  things...  thats  my  opinion !
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Γιαννης Διαμαντιδης in Can I count my time while visiting elderly JW's at rest homes?   
    I cannot agree more with Joe Smith.
    When The Almighty spoke through Jeremiah about the future covenant, He said: "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts". If you want to keep a record of whom you visit and for how many hours is up to you. Now if you want to share this record with some earthly organization this is up to you too. But one thing is clear: Do not be good to others just because someone told you you must fill up some hours of visits. You must do it because the Law of the Almighty is in your heart not written in some paper.
    If you ask my personal opinion ...  that is you can write this hours and every hour that glorifies JAH and His king our Lord Jesus.

    Continue to do good and be blessed !
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Sarah gibson in Greek Scriptures directed to the Other Sheep?   
    Thank you for your research very helpful for everybody that wants truth 
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Sarah gibson in Greek Scriptures directed to the Other Sheep?   
    (Genesis 22:15-1815 And Jehovah’s angel called to Abraham a second time from the heavens, 16 saying: “‘By myself I swear,’ declares Jehovah, ‘that because you have done this and you have not withheld your son, your only one, 17 I will surely bless you and I will surely multiply your offspring like the stars of the heavens and like the grains of sand on the seashore, and your offspring will take possession of the gate of his enemies. 18 And by means of your offspring all nations of the earth will obtain a blessing for themselves because you have listened to my voice.’”
     
    Seed or offspring to come through Abraham, through Isaac, through Jacob (Israel) through Judah, through Jesse, through Mary (Joseph) etc.
     
     
    (Genesis 49:10) The scepter will not depart from Judah, neither the commander’s staff from between his feet, until Shiʹloh comes, and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.
     
    Seed or offspring proved to be Jesus born to Mary.
     
    (Luke 1:30-33) . . . So the angel said to her: “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And look! you will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as King over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his Kingdom.”
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    Fulfilment of offspring’s entry into the world and blessings documented in Chistian Greek scriptures
    Gospel/good news written to all the nations not just the Anointed/Bride of Christ/Church/Elect/Chosen Ones
    (Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
     
    Invitation to everlasting life (anyone/everyone)
     (John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
     
    Jesus has other sheep which are not of the heavenly ‘little flock‘ fold.
    (John 10:16) “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.
     
    *** jy chap. 80 p. 186 pars. 8-9 The Fine Shepherd and the Sheepfolds ***
    Further explaining his role, Jesus says: “I have come that they may have life and have it in abundance. I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep.” (John 10:10, 11) Jesus had earlier comforted his disciples by saying: “Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.” (Luke 12:32) Indeed, those who make up the “little flock” are ones Jesus will lead into a new sheepfold, so that they may “have life and have it in abundance.” What a blessing to be part of that flock!
    Jesus does not end the matter there, though. He observes: “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (John 10:16) These “other sheep” are “not of this fold.” Hence, they must be of yet another fold, different from the “little flock” who will inherit the Kingdom. These two folds, or pens of sheep, have different destinies. Still, the sheep in both folds will benefit from Jesus’ role.
     Law of Moses a shadow, Jesus (Christian system) reality
    (Hebrews 10:1-10) 10 For since the Law has a shadow of the good things to come, but not the very substance of the things, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered year after year, make those who approach perfect. 2 Otherwise, would not the sacrifices have stopped being offered, because those rendering sacred service once cleansed would have no consciousness of sins anymore? 3 On the contrary, these sacrifices are a reminder of sins year after year, 4 for it is not possible for the blood of bulls and of goats to take sins away. 5 So when he comes into the world, he says: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me. 6 You did not approve of whole burnt offerings and sin offerings.’ 7 Then I said: ‘Look! I have come (in the scroll it is written about me) to do your will, O God.’” 8 After first saying: “You did not want nor did you approve of sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sin offerings”—sacrifices that are offered according to the Law— 9 then he says: “Look! I have come to do your will.” He does away with what is first in order to establish what is second. 10 By this “will” we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.
    John the Baptizer – had earthly hope
    (Matthew 11: 11) 11 Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.
    Things on earth to be reconciled
    (Ephesians 1:8-10) 8 This undeserved kindness he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and understanding 9 by making known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure that he himself purposed 10 for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, to gather all things together in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth. . . .
     
    Sheep with earthly hope do good to Jesus’s brothers who have heavenly hope
    (Matthew 25:31-26:2) 31 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 In reply the King will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat; and I was thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.’ 44 Then they too will answer with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying: ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” 26 Now when Jesus had finished saying all these things, he said to his disciples: 2 “You know . . .
     
    Those with earthly calling to closely accompany those with heavenly calling
    (Zechariah 8:23) “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’”
    Earthly class will not be made perfect apart from heavenly class (will be made perfect through heavenly class)
    (Hebrews 11:39, 40) 39 And yet all of these, although they received a favorable witness because of their faith, did not obtain the fulfillment of the promise, 40 because God had foreseen something better for us, so that they might not be made perfect apart from us.
     
     Unnumbered Great Crowd to live on earth (those to live in heaven (Anointed) are numbered)
     (Revelation 7:9) After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.
     *** it-1 p. 218 Attitudes and Gestures ***
    Favor. Standing before a superior. Favor and recognition were represented by standing before an authority, since permission was required to enter into the presence of a king. (Pr 22:29; Lu 1:19; 21:36) At Revelation 7:9, 15 a great crowd is shown as standing before the throne, indicating that they have favored recognition before God.
     
    All people counseled/warned on the consequences of doing bad things.  The persons mentioned are not anointed/saints/holy ones. But they are warned.
    (Revelation 21:8) But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”
    (Revelation 22:15) 15 Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.’
     
    Invitation to everlasting life (anyone/everyone) ( Repetition for emphasis)
     
    (John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
     
    (Anointed ones (The bride) invite others)
    (Rev  22:17)  17 And the spirit and the bride keep on saying, “Come!” and let anyone hearing say, “Come!” and let anyone thirsting come; let anyone who wishes take life’s water free.
     
    *** w14 2/15 pp. 11-12 Rejoice Over the Marriage of the Lamb! ***
    “THEY WILL BE BROUGHT WITH REJOICING”
    14 Read Psalm 45:12, 14b, 15. The prophet Zechariah foretold that in the time of the end, people of the nations would gratefully associate themselves with the remnant of spiritual Israel. He wrote: “In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’” (Zech. 8:23) At Psalm 45:12, these symbolic “ten men” are spoken of as “the daughter of Tyre” and “the wealthiest of men.” They come to the anointed remnant with gifts, ‘seeking their favor’ and spiritual help. Since 1935, millions of people have allowed the remnant to ‘bring them to righteousness.’ (Dan. 12:3) These loyal companions of the anointed Christians have purified their lives, becoming spiritual virgins. These “virgin companions” of the bride have dedicated themselves to Jehovah and have proved themselves to be faithful subjects of the Bridegroom-King.
    15 The remnant of the bride class have been particularly grateful to these “virgin companions” for their zealous help in preaching “this good news of the Kingdom” throughout the inhabited earth. (Matt. 24:14) Not only do “the spirit and the bride keep on saying, ‘Come!’” but those hearing say, “Come!” (Rev. 22:17) Yes, the “other sheep” heard the members of the anointed bride class say “Come!” and have joined the bride in saying “Come!” to earth’s inhabitants.—John 10:16.
    16 The anointed remnant love their companions and are happy to know that the Bridegroom’s Father, Jehovah, has granted these other sheep on earth the privilege of joining in the jubilation over the heavenly marriage of the Lamb. It was foretold that these “virgin companions” would be “brought with rejoicing and joy.” Yes, the other sheep, who hope to live forever on earth, will share in the universal rejoicing when the marriage of the Lamb takes place in heaven. Appropriately, the book of Revelation represents the members of the “great crowd” as “standing before the throne and before the Lamb.” They render Jehovah sacred service in the earthly courtyard of his spiritual temple.—Rev. 7:9, 15.
    “YOUR SONS WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR FOREFATHERS”
    17 Read Psalm 45:16. “The virgin companions” of Christ’s heavenly bride will have further cause for rejoicing when they see the marriage become fruitful in the new world. The Bridegroom-King will turn his attention to the earth and will resurrect his earthly “forefathers,” who will become his earthly “sons.” (John 5:25-29; Heb. 11:35) From among these he will appoint “princes in all the earth.” 18 During his Millennial Reign, Christ will become a father to others also. In fact, all earth’s inhabitants who receive everlasting life will gain it because they exercise faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. (John 3:16) He thus becomes their “Eternal Father.”—Isa. 9:6, 7.
     
    Study the Bible while there is time
    (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
    (Romans 15:4) For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.
     
    (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
     Can go on and on and on…….
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Ann O'Maly in REINSTATEMENT No3   
    But Giannis is asking why a person, who was disfellowshipped for having a kidney transplant, should repent of something that the Org. no longer believed was wrong. 
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    Melinda Mills reacted to John Houston in Greek Scriptures directed to the Other Sheep?   
    If just to the anointed, how would we know they are to rule over us? Aren't we being bombarded by those right now who want to rule over us? Aren't they going from state to state selling their promise of what they would do for certain groups and factions if they became president. So if the Greek scriptures were only for them, what of those who they were to rule over, when and how would we know, by coup?
     No, we have to be also informed of what is going on with those who are going to rule over us. It has not changed since Israel wanted a king over them. When Jehovah had his talks with Adam, Adam had some knowledge what was going on, he was not in the dark. 
    We would have rules and procedures and parameters and protocols to follow, so these kings and priests would have to let the other sheep, those they are to rule over what they are. Remember the scrolls that are to be opened during the 1000 yrs., we are to so educated on these things. We are getting our mind set on that path now, but then without satanic influence and imperfection, we will be able to conquer. 
    How did I do?
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Thinking in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
    I think the problem is due largely to ignorance of the function of governments and international organizations.  In another comment, I will highlight some of the benefits we enjoy worldwide because of the work of the United Nations.  Jehovah has allowed governments to keep order and to help us in our preaching work.  ((1 Tim 2:1,2; Romans 13:1). Nothing can be achieved without relative peace.  Only Jehovah's Kingdom will bring peace and we must not worship the peace beast as the only hope for mankind as has Christendom. We can still cooperate with governments to achieve certain goals.  There is no requirement to hate them.  It is Satan who is using them to harm and persecute us.  Satan has fostered all worldly governments but they are made up of people who we are supposed to love and set a good example to.  They are thousands of examples where Jehovah's Witnesses have been commended by the governments for good work and conduct.  The United Nations is made up of  individual governments.  That is why it is called the image of the wild beast. If we respect the government we individually live under, we must also respect the United Nations.
    Granted something unintentional was done to achieve greater access to information to maybe prove fulfillment of prophecy and obtain statistics of every sort. However, I think the complaint has been pushed out of proportion.
    I endorse the comment of Eoin Joyce and also recommend studying how Jehovah and his representatives who appreciated the role of government cooperated to get things done. We have just studied Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and we see how Esther and Mordecai along with Jehovah's intervention used good judgement to protect His people. Romans chapter 13 is essential reading also.  See below: (Taken from w95 10/1 "A World without War - When?")
    THE CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE UNITED NATIONS
      In Bible prophecy, human governments are often symbolized by wild beasts. (Daniel 7:6, 12, 23; 8:20-22) Hence, for many decades the Watchtower magazine has identified the wild beasts of Revelation chapters 13 and 17 with today’s worldly governments. This includes the United Nations, which is depicted in Revelation chapter 17 as a scarlet-colored beast with seven heads and ten horns.
      However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.”—Romans 13:1, 2.
                                                                                             
     
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    Melinda Mills got a reaction from Evacuated in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
    I think the problem is due largely to ignorance of the function of governments and international organizations.  In another comment, I will highlight some of the benefits we enjoy worldwide because of the work of the United Nations.  Jehovah has allowed governments to keep order and to help us in our preaching work.  ((1 Tim 2:1,2; Romans 13:1). Nothing can be achieved without relative peace.  Only Jehovah's Kingdom will bring peace and we must not worship the peace beast as the only hope for mankind as has Christendom. We can still cooperate with governments to achieve certain goals.  There is no requirement to hate them.  It is Satan who is using them to harm and persecute us.  Satan has fostered all worldly governments but they are made up of people who we are supposed to love and set a good example to.  They are thousands of examples where Jehovah's Witnesses have been commended by the governments for good work and conduct.  The United Nations is made up of  individual governments.  That is why it is called the image of the wild beast. If we respect the government we individually live under, we must also respect the United Nations.
    Granted something unintentional was done to achieve greater access to information to maybe prove fulfillment of prophecy and obtain statistics of every sort. However, I think the complaint has been pushed out of proportion.
    I endorse the comment of Eoin Joyce and also recommend studying how Jehovah and his representatives who appreciated the role of government cooperated to get things done. We have just studied Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and we see how Esther and Mordecai along with Jehovah's intervention used good judgement to protect His people. Romans chapter 13 is essential reading also.  See below: (Taken from w95 10/1 "A World without War - When?")
    THE CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE UNITED NATIONS
      In Bible prophecy, human governments are often symbolized by wild beasts. (Daniel 7:6, 12, 23; 8:20-22) Hence, for many decades the Watchtower magazine has identified the wild beasts of Revelation chapters 13 and 17 with today’s worldly governments. This includes the United Nations, which is depicted in Revelation chapter 17 as a scarlet-colored beast with seven heads and ten horns.
      However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.”—Romans 13:1, 2.
                                                                                             
     
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Evacuated in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
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    I have noted your references and the arguments made by the various critics you recommend. The observations are interesting and informative where factual. The conclusions and assertions made remain the perception of those critics however, and I do not find them in the least convincing. For me, they remain simply, allegations.
    I can see in the scriptural record similarities to the many ways in which God's servants in the past were assisted by secular authorities in the carrying out of Jehovah's purposes. Ezra and Nehemiah's relationship to the authorities in their day being classic examples. (I would submit both books in their entirety as references here).
    This record(for me) serves simply to demonstrate the inability of Satan to thwart Jehovah in that the very organisations representing his (Satan's) rulership are used, when required, to accomplish Jehovah's purposes. 
    The passage of scripture in Matthew 12:22-30 fits well for me in response to these allegations.
     
     
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    Melinda Mills reacted to The Librarian in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
    See here for my comments on this: http://www.jw-archive.org/post/130454441558/watchtower-and-the-united-nations-back-in-2004-and
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Colin Thorpe in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
    This question is from either an brother or someone who is still on milk and not solid food. Hopefully it is one who is still learning the truth and he/she should take Eoin Joyce answer and do some research.
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Evacuated in United Nations vs WATCHTOWER   
    This is a ridiculous allegation.
    There is no promoting of the UN in these articles any more than the apostle Paul promoted the Stoic poet Aratus in his speech on the Areopagus at Acts 17:28.
    These WT articles merely reference the attempts of the UN to promote beneficial strategies for the human family, and highlight  it's failure to accomplish what can only be achieved through the administration of Jehovah's kingdom, the only viable government for this earth.
    These assertions, and others like them, are filling up the measure of the activities of Haman (Esther 3:8). 
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    Melinda Mills reacted to Fmadriaga in Epilogue - Ruminations of a Cantankerous Old Barbarian   
    WELL!!!!
     
    I guess this is one of your post that I agree 100%  Congratulations brother, looks like we're on the same page now!  =)
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    Melinda Mills reacted to JW Insider in Epilogue - Ruminations of a Cantankerous Old Barbarian   
    I just found this, and I feel like I'm losing a friend. A friend I never met, that is, and a friend with whom I probably disagree with on more subjects than I can remember right now  Forums aren't the same as "real-life" congregations, and friends on forums aren't the same as friends in "real life" either. Still, it's a bit like when one of your favorite elders steps down or moves away.
    There is something liberating about being free to speak about whatever we find interesting. The freedom of speech that you, JTR, have enjoyed here was a true achievement. I'm sure it turned away a lot of friends here (I know the feeling) but it also made some points that will forever be remembered for good.
    Thanks for what you've done. I hope I'm still here when and if you decide to find your way back for some additional rounds. I doubt you've run out of ammunition.
     
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