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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    You absolutely don't make sense.  I gave you the link from the JW website that shows what Watchtower has taught about the Body of Christ - that it is comprised of the anointed ones.  Today, in word, (maybe in print also) they teach differently than what they have written in their publications in the past.  They speak out of both sides of their mouth and you are choosing their most recent LIE.  Why would I chose to follow the GB's twisted path?  Why do YOU?  Their teachings are blaspheming the Holy Spirit.  They are no different than the Pharisees - a brood of vipers.  Matt 12:34  If you could only see how confused you are by following these men.  
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    You must be talking about the GB as the “faithful slave” sent by God.  Can you actually prove to me that God has given these men to us to follow?
    Did Jesus ever lie?  If he sent anyone in his name, and told them to “remain” in him because without him they could nothing, would they lie or would they speak the Word of God, which is truth - always?    He is the way, the truth, the life.  Would those he sends teach any sort of doctrine that failed or had to be totally discarded with a new one?  How many times has doctrine flipped from one belief to another, and many times a new belief is actually one from years past, in the step of doctrinal change?  John 15:4,5; John 14:6
    To say that the leaders of the WT are led by Holy Spirit calls Jesus a liar; subsequently, it calls the Almighty God, a liar.  The only one who can take a lie and soften its blow with the insulation of false promises, by calling it a “belief clarified”, is Satan, who “inspires” those who seek out his earthly gifts. 2 Cor 11:13,14
    Anyone can see these things if they choose to.  It depends on one's heart’s desire to find those who speak pure truth from Christ.  Within the organization are hundreds of anointed ones who are silenced.  That should ring a bell with all JWs, that something is amiss in the Watchtower.    If one of those anointed speaks up about teachings that conflict with WT doctrine, and is heard, I guarantee they will not survive inside its walls.  That is the sign of a wicked slave in power.  Matt 24:48-51
    Jesus spoke up for truth against the power and teaching of the Pharisees.  Shouldn't every one of us speak up for truth, regardless of who has placed authority over us?  
    "Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life (through disfellowshipping) for me and for the gospel will save it.36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? 37 Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 38 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”  Mark 8:34-38
    I am not ashamed to speak up for Christ and truth.  I, and so many others, have done so.  As scripture points out, your wicked slave cannot tolerate being called a liar.  Rev 13:11,14-17
    It is a ruse, set against the anointed under the "woman" New Covenant, during these last days.  I wish all of you could see this.  Rev 12:15; 2 Thess 2:9-12;1 Thess 5:3   
    Matt 13:36-43
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    On whether an anointed one is inspired, I just though I'd comment.  All anointed ones are inspired by God’s Spirit.  It is how they are “called” when anointed.  Eph 2:20; 4:4,7,8,11,12; 2;6; 4;8     They could not be the “dwelling” of His Spirit without such inspiration. 1 Cor 3:9,16  Whether they facilitate that gift by obeying the Spirit’s direction, is up to them.  Isa 64:8; Matt 25:1; 1 John 2:20,27; 1 Cor 10:12; Rev 2:5
    Anointed ones can lose God’s Spirit and acquire the spirit of Satan by falling out of their promise with God, and entering a pact made with the Liar.  From them, come “demonic expressions”; exhalations of spirit from Satan. Isa 28:15,7,8   So, anointed are either inspired by the Spirit of truth from God and Christ, or by the spirit of lies from Satan.  It isn’t obvious by the way they look or what they accomplish in this physical realm, but by what they teach.  Matt 7:20  For the GB to say they are not "inspired" by God's Spirit, is in actuality, in my opinion,  a true statement.
    Inspired by God’s Spirit:
    Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. (“congregations”)   You will be brought before governors (GB) and kings (elders) for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.  Matt 10:16-20 
    Inspired by Satan’s Spirit
    1 Tim 4:1,2 - Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron 
    2 Pet 2:1-3 - But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. 
    Rev 13:11 - Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.
    Rev 16:13,14 - And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth (Rev 1:5; 5:10) and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
    The conflict between both:
    Eph 6:10-13 Finally, become strong in the Lord and in the might of his strength.  Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the stratagems of the devil,  because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.  Because of this, take up the full armor of God, in order that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand.
    Satan attacks us "in the evil day" of Armageddon (Rev 20:7-9)  through inspiring those who buy into his lying offers of authority and power, which is enacted over the "kings of the earth", (those under the New Covenant Gal 4:22-24,26) and all those with them.  Luke 4:7; Rev 13:5-7; Rev 12:15
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    Attitude? Finally understanding?  Gossip?  Unchristian Conduct?
    It is unfortunate, but you are a very confused man. 
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    Really?  Have I ever said that?  I am not of Jewish natural descent.  Is the anointed “royal priesthood” made up of physical Jews? 
    1 Pet 2:5,9,10  - you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
    But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
    2 Cor 5:17 - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
    Gal 3:29 - And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, heirs according to the promise.
    2 Cor 11:2 - I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy.  I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.  
    The anointed priesthood under Christ are spiritual “Israel”.  Rev 5:9,10; 7:4
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    We can be physically alive, but spiritually dead, or spiritually alive.   We "conquer" death by turning to Christ and his light.  If we refuse the light, we remain "dead" and face the "second death".  James 1:12;  John 8:12; 1:4; 12:46; 1 John 5:11 (2 Cor 4:3,4; Eph 4:18)   (Rev 20:15)
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Ten men out of ... the nations ... will take firm hold of the robe of a Jewish man   
    How did the enmity begin between Satan’s seed and God’s?  With a lie.  Every anointed one has had to face this enmity – truth against lies – since Christ.  It is at its peak right now, with WT leaders keeping the anointed under containment with false promises, their threats and their slanderous statements about them; oppressing their God-given role as a priest by replacing them with “foreigners”/”Gentiles”.   Eze 44:6-9; 1 Cor 3:16,17;  Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 ONLY A REMNANT WILL SURVIVE WHAT IS HAPPENING THIS MOMENT IN THE WATCHTOWER. 
    Only…if they “come out”.  Rev 18:4-8
    One doesn’t have to be in a designated “heaven” to fight this war, since being “heavenly” is part of the new creation.   Anointed ones can be sealed while on earth and “reign as kings”.  Rev 5:9,10
    Instead, you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God (the heavenly Jerusalem), to myriads of angels, a festive gathering,23 to the assembly of the firstborn whose names have been written[j] in heaven, to a Judge, who is God of all, to the spirits of righteous people made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which says better things than the blood of Abel.  Heb 12:22-24
    He also raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might display the immeasurable riches of his grace through his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.  Eph 2:6,7
    The Beast of the Sea is the organization  Rev 13:1
    The Beast with “two horns who speaks like a lamb” is the GB/false prophets.  Rev 13:11
    They are Gog and Magog.  Rev 20:7-9
    With the emergence of the organization, the symbolic “thousand years” is finished.  Satan has been “let loose” to deceive. 
    DECEIVE who? 
    The anointed ones, and those with them. Rev 20:7-9; 13:7
    “If anyone tells you then, ‘See, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Over here!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.   Matt 24:23,24
     Armagedon is fought in the valley of decision – where do we establish our spiritual decisions, but in our heart? Joel 3:14   The battle of truth against lies has been raging since Genesis.  It will finish when the Father of the lie is destroyed along with those who teach his lies.  Rev 19:20; 20:10  The anointed fight this battle with WORDS – truth from Jesus Christ; and on the opposing side, those who speak lies originating with Satan. Eph 6:12; Rev 12:7,8   If the GB had Holy Spirit, they would not need to enter into lawsuits to protect their self-interests, or buy stock in social media to quash those who speak against them (which they are doing at this moment, which they are doing to Pearl Doxsey and myself) They wouldn’t have lawyers at all.  Christ would guide them…if they were on the side of truth.  Instead, they rely on this system and its various avenues to fight against truth spoken by the anointed on the other side of the WT wall of lies.  Ezek 13:10-14  And who has power and authority over this world?  John 12:31
    Rev 11:1-7; Jer 23:29
    The only entity that for years has spoken of itself as a haven of “peace and security” is the organization, where…the anointed are found!  Where the anointed are told they have no more Holy Spirit than anyone else.  Where the anointed are told NOT TO MEET TOGETHER. Where they must obey men WHO ARE NOT ANOINTED THEMSELVES AND WHO ARE GIVEN THE POWER TO JUDGE THEM AS SPIRITUALLY "DEAD".  John 16:2  Can’t you see the captivity that the Watchtower has successfully created through the use of “empty philosophy”?  Isn't this the same as DECEIT?  Col 2:8  
    It is a trap – a LIE – and yet, it calls itself “the truth”.   2 Thess 2:9-12
    “About the times and the seasons: Brothers and sisters, you do not need anything to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 When they say, “Peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
     But you, brothers and sisters, are not in the dark, for this day to surprise you like a thief. 5 For you are all children of light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or the darkness.” 1 Thess 5:1-5
    Can you be a child of light where rotten discarded fruit generated in the dark recesses of the hearts and minds of men who love authority and power, exists ?  
    A good person produces good out of the good stored up in his heart. An evil person produces evil out of the evil stored up in his heart, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.  Luke 6:45
    Why do JWs tolerate lies?  What are they afraid of?  They are afraid of losing all that they know and possess.  Yes, the dragon has created the perfect emotional and spiritual TRAP.  
    Everything, that the WT teaches about the end times – Great Tribulation, Armageddon and how the war is fought, is all a lie; actually, a flood of lies.  Rev 12:15-17
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Isn't this an idol?   
    As Jesus said to his people that chose to follow HIM:
    “Blessed [morally courageous and spiritually alive with life-joy in God’s goodness] are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil things against you because of [your association with] Me. Be glad and exceedingly joyful, for your reward in heaven is great [absolutely inexhaustible]; for in this same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."  Matt 5:11,12 (AMP)
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Isn't this an idol?   
    Please analyze the word "truth".  Especially truth from God and Christ.  
    Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters. 17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.   James 1:16,17
    Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.  Mark 11:24
    Do you believe the GB are asking for a good and perfect gift of truth from the Father?  "What does the record show?", as they have said.  
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Disfellowshipping use to be 6 months- now it’s 1 year   
    Not enthusiasm, but sarcasm, of which I do need to keep in check.  
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Disfellowshipping use to be 6 months- now it’s 1 year   
    The bus and the first two vans were the preferred vehicle for "door to door". Especially for the long days when the table could be flipped up for lunch to be served.  The last Westfalia was rejected by our last congregation.  They preferred their leather seats and slick-looking expensive cars.  If a truck was taken in "service", gossip began, making its owner feeling inadequate in "Jehovah's service".    
    Are you a regular reader now?
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Disfellowshipping use to be 6 months- now it’s 1 year   
    So, you don’t have to define a repentant heart, you are able to “just know” a repentant heart when you see one.  I suppose it would be a lot easier to detect, if this heart returned to “Jehovah’s organization”, where God has supposedly lived for the last 100 years.  Acts 7:48-51; 17:24,25,29-31
    Yet, if I say, I am saved through the grace of Jesus Christ, and not through an organization and its “faithful slave”; and I am told by the elders I still must repent for rejecting “Jehovah’s organization”, who is it that is telling a lie?  Acts 4:12; 15:11; Luke 9:35; John 5:43; Luke 21:8; Matt 24:24; Rev 13:11,15
    Who really needs to repent?  Rev 3:17-20
     
    Thirty-some years, and 4 VW vans later (one a 1974 bus), I now worship the Father in Spirit and truth.  John 4:23,24  I have repented for giving my worship and devotion to a form of idolatry that is getting more absurd by the day.  
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Disfellowshipping use to be 6 months- now it’s 1 year   
    How do you define a repentant heart?
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Disfellowshipping use to be 6 months- now it’s 1 year   
    Even though I was disfellowshipped for apostasy, I was told I could “return to Jehovah and his organization” if I had a repentant heart.  No mention of time limit after that was given; and no followup for years now, to see if indeed, I have a repentant heart defined by the WT. 
    *What methods do apostates use to achieve their aim? They often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods. Jesus knew that his followers would be victimized by those who would “tell all kinds of evil lies against” them. (Matthew 5:11, Today’s English Version)
    1 Tim 6:3-5 - If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4 they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 

    w13 11/15 p. 20 -  At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. 
     
    w 04/9/1 p. 15,16 - Deceptive reasonings. The apostle Paul states: “Do not be carried away with various and strange teachings.” (Hebrews 13:9) What sort of teachings? Since they can ‘carry us away,’ it is clear that Paul refers to teachings that undermine our spiritual balance. Who are voicing such strange teachings? Paul told a group of Christian elders: “From among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.” (Acts 20:30) 
     
    Who acts as the “faithful steward” appointing themselves “from among” God’s anointed household?  Luke 12:42-48
     *Such malicious opposers would tell what is not true with the intent to deceive others. The apostle Peter warned about apostates who would use “counterfeit words,” spread “deceptive teachings,” and ‘twist the Scriptures’ to their own ends. (2 Peter 2:3, 13; 3:16) Sadly, apostates succeed in “subverting the faith of some.”—2 Timothy 2:18.  04/2/15 16-17 
    The large majority of Watchtower’s followers will never leave deceptive teachings and their source, such as 1975, 1925, “this generation”; that Zion is a visible organization and not found in the hearts of “living stones” of the Temple of God. 1 Pt 2:5,9,10; Eph 2:20-22; that it is okay for God’s priesthood/Temple to be ruled by men not anointed.  2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:5-7,18
    JWs may question their leaders and their intent when “new light” emerges, but their hearts will be inclined to “wait on Jehovah” to correct teachings that have been revealed as untrue.  The captivating offer of a spiritual paradise and a “thousand years of peace” to come is very difficult to give up, leaving one facing the unknown, outside of the walls of presumed “peace and security”.  1 Thess 5:3; 1 Col 2:8; Rev 13:5-10
     
    w86 4/1 p. 31-  Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses.
     
    2 Pet 2:1-3 - But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
    Fabricated stories unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses, are various and strange teachings that use deceptive reasoning, and may not appear practical from a human standpoint , causing an undermining of our spiritual balance.  Each lie robs a JW from the sound reasoning of Christ’s teachings.  This is denying the Christ, which means to “contradict, i.e. disavow, reject, abnegate”, his teachings, through the introduction of destructive heresies by false teachers found among God’s anointed ones.  Rev 13:11,12
    And I am the apostate as well as my “brothers” and fellow believers in Christ - those who rely not on men and their falsehoods, but only on the teachings of Christ who is in the Father?
    Satan can twist an entire foundation of beliefs by applying what is true, to what is false.  It is called a “delusion”.
    2 Thess 2:9-12 -The coming of the lawless one is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders, 10 and with every wicked deception among those who are perishing. They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends (to “bid a thing to be carried to one”)  them a strong delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12 so that all will be condemned—those who did not believe the truth but delighted in unrighteousness.
     
    Matt 7:24-27 - “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain fell, the rivers rose, and the winds blew and pounded that house. Yet it didn’t collapse, because its foundation was on the rock. (John 2:19-21; Matt 16:18; 1Cor 10:3,4) 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and doesn’t act on them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 The rain fell, the rivers rose, the winds blew and pounded that house, and it collapsed. It collapsed with a great crash.”
     
    What do you think?  Should we give them 6 months or a year?  2 Pet 3:8,9
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Let's Get It On - identify a cult!   
    It seems to me that a small or large religion can be a cult, or cult-like.  Cults portray the same primary characteristics, which can be traced back to the Destroyer, Satan. Isa 33:1 Such traits have influenced political and religious rulers throughout history.  Cults and cult-like entities destroy lives using four systems of control explained here:
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Let's Get It On - identify a cult!   
    Will pictures do?
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Shiwiii in Attorneys filing lawsuits in King's County Supreme Court against eight members of the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.   
    @BillyTheKid46 quotes:
    "The Watchtower doesn’t directly claim clergy privilege, it’s automatically given by each State that has it in their legal binding. (I.e. laws)"
    "Then, perhaps the above will be clearer as to who is advocating the “clergy” identity. It’s not the Watchtower, but the legal system by definition."
     
    Indeed, the Watchtower has a “clergy”; albeit a counterfeit one, and they know it. 
    “Representative”:
    Adjective:  Typical; having the same properties or interest as a larger group.
                         Representing, showing a likeness 
     Noun:  One who may speak for another in a particular capacity, especially in negotiation.
    “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. 
    In what way are elders appointed by holy spirit?
    19 These older men meet the requirements that are set out in God’s Word, which is a product of God’s spirit. (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9) Hence, their appointment can be said to be by holy spirit. (Acts 20:28)    W 02/8/1 p. 13,14
     
    They flex this assumed role according to their advantage.  If it means disfellowshipping individuals, (including members of the “royal priesthood”) judging them as unsuitable to remain in their idolatrous “Zion”, the elder body must be recognized for their falsely given “priestly” authority.  After all, it can be said they were appointed by Holy Spirit, they say.  
    In the court system, they will either defend their clergy-penitent privilege to their advantage; or deny it exists, because they have created their loophole, being “representatives” of the authentic priestly “clergy”.  In all cases, it is total hypocrisy.
    2 Chron 13:9 - “You forced out the Lord’s priests who were Aaron’s descendants, and you forced out the Levites so that you could appoint your own priests, as the people in foreign countries do. Anyone who has a young bull and seven rams can be ordained as a priest of nonexistent gods.       
    W 02/8/1 p. 13,14  “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust.” 
     
    “They (Korah and his men) came together to confront Moses and Aaron and said to them, “You’ve gone far enough! Everyone in the whole community is holy, and the Lord is among them. Why do you set yourselves above the Lord’s assembly?”
    Moses also said to Korah, “Listen, you Levites! 9 Isn’t it enough for you that the God of Israel has separated you from the rest of the community of Israel? The Lord has brought you near himself to do the work for his tent and stand in front of the community to serve them. 10 He has brought you and all the other Levites near himself, but now you demand to be priests. 11 So you and all your followers have joined forces against the Lord! Who is Aaron that you should complain about him?”  Numbers, chapter 16
    “Don’t let anyone deceive you about this in any way. That day cannot come unless a revolt takes place first, and the man of sin, the man of destruction, is revealed. He opposes every so-called god or anything that is worshiped and places himself above them, sitting in God’s temple (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; Rev 11:1-3) and claiming to be God.” 2 Thess 2:3,4
     
    “Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place” 4womaninthewilderness, Pearl Doxsey
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in REVELATION'S LOCUSTS - WHO ARE THEY?   
    Someone commented on this when posted elsewhere:
    Yes...the faces of the locusts reveal much.
    Look closely at their faces and expression.  Do these creatures look like humble representatives, Ambassadors, of the mild tempered, lowly in heart, Lamb of God?  Do they look like they represent a noble king....or a Demonic Ruler?
    They do not look loving or approachable.
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Every noticed how they mention Apostate lies but never give references to any specific lie and how it is a lie or what not?   
    How do you not see that what you have said, can apply to your own leaders?  Or do you not believe a lie is a lie, no matter whose lips it comes from?
    "This Generation" teaching:
    Who the Generation Applies to
    The Watchtower has swung between whether generation has a positive connotation that applies to the Anointed, or has a negative connotation applying to worldly contemporaries. It has also varied on whether the period was over an unspecified time frame or was a fixed period. In brief, the changes have been as follows:
    1897 -� A group of contemporary people
    "�Other uses of this Greek word (genea) prove that it is not used with the significance of race, but in reference to people living contemporaneously.... In other words, the signs mentioned will occur within a generation - epoch in the close of the age.�" � Studies in the Scriptures Vol 4 pp.602,603
    1927 �- The anointed
    �"The irresistible conclusion therefore is that Jesus referred to the new creation [the anointed] when he said: �This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.� This then would be a strong indication that some members of the new creation will be on the earth at the time of Armageddon.�" Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.62
    1951 -� A fixed period of time from 1914 applied to worldly people
    "The actual meaning of these words is, beyond question, that which takes a �generation� in the ordinary sense, as at Mark 8:12 and Acts 13:36, or for those who are living at the given period. So it was on �this generation� that the accumulated judgments were to fall. (Matt. 23:36) This therefore means that from 1914 a generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled, and amidst a great time of trouble." Watchtower 1951 Jul 1 p.404
    1995 -� A group of contemporary worldly people
    "Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term �this generation,� which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their �blind guides� who together made up the Jewish nation. ... Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics."� Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.14,20
    2008 �- The anointed
    "As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of contemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur." This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." Watchtower 2008 Feb 15 p.24
    2010 �- A fixed period from 1914 applied to the anointed
    "He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10
    (JW Facts)
    And what about today????
    For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.  2 Cor 11:13-15
     
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    I would hope that you would consider that the most humble man on the face of the earth at the time, repented of his sin, most likely by bowing low ‘toward the earth’ before the Lord. Num 12:1-3; Exod 34:8,9  I would also hope that you realize that the scriptures Melinda provide from Heb 11 showed that his faithfulness to God was a paramount example for others to follow, including us today.
    Why did Moses speak bitterly to the people?
    They aligned themselves with Baal of Peor
    and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods.
    29 They angered the Lord with their deeds,
    and a plague broke out against them.
    30 But Phinehas stood up and intervened,
    and the plague was stopped.
    31 It was credited to him as righteousness
    throughout all generations to come.
    32 They angered the Lord at the Waters of Meribah,
    and Moses suffered[b] (“and it was evil for Moses”) because of them;
    33 for they embittered his spirit,[c] (“they rebelled against his Spirit)”
    and he spoke rashly with his lips.”  Ps 106:28-32
     
     “Harden not your hearts as at Meribah and as at Massah in the day of temptation in the wilderness,
    9 When your fathers tried My patience and tested Me, proved Me, and saw My work [of judgment].
    10 Forty years long was I grieved and disgusted with that generation, and I said, It is a people that do err in their hearts, and they do not approve, acknowledge, or regard My ways.
    11 Wherefore I swore in My wrath that they would not enter My rest [the land of promise].”
    From that one “grave” error, as you call it, Moses did not harden his heart as the people he led had. He always upheld God’s ways, and God never rejected him, but rewarded him with eternal life.   Ps 99:6 Moses enter God’s rest in spite of God’s judgment that he would not enter the Promised Land.
    He rebelled once, and it is quite obvious he repented for his error; otherwise he would not have been seen on the “holy mountain” with Jesus and Elijah:
    Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; 2 and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. 3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.” Matt 17:1-4
    Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest. 2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house.
    5 “Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future. Heb 3:1,2,5 
    As God’s holy prophet, the blessings Moses received was far greater than entering the Promised Land – he entered the heavenly “city that is to come”.  Heb 13:14; Eph 2:19-21 (Rev 18:20)
     
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    *** Bible Citations ***
    23 By faith Moses was hid by his parents for three months after his birth, because they saw that the young child was beautiful and they did not fear the order of the king. 24 By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of Pharʹaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing to be mistreated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin, 26 because he considered the reproach of the Christ to be riches greater than the treasures of Egypt, for he looked intently toward the payment of the reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt, but not fearing the anger of the king, for he continued steadfast as seeing the One who is invisible. 28 By faith he observed the Passover and the splashing of the blood, so that the destroyer might not harm their firstborn. 29 By faith they passed through the Red Sea as on dry land, but when the Egyptians attempted it, they were swallowed up.
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in 1975 was in the past. Are we HONEST about it TODAY?   
    @BillyTheKid46I found this on internet:
    It seems how Structures in WT are well educated in talking about end of the world. :))
     

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    (No, I haven't taken time to download the nifty app., so just providing the link)
     
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