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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I have a simple question; Who in the United States banned house-to-house preaching for JW? Who told JW not to go from house to house? 
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    Witness reacted to Kick_Faceinator in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    You’re pretty uneducated, the “Jehovahs Witness brotherhood” believe every sign Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 is literal. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Do JWs feel they have not been deceived when they believe the exact line of reasoning as the majority who apply the Bible’s signs as literal evidence of the coming Kingdom? Of course they don’t believe they have been deceived.   Yet, all Christian religions have their “king of the north/south”, as nations in the world which Satan has dominion over.  So do JWs.  What then, sets JWs apart from the masses in Christendom?
    Nothing.  Almost all believers see most of the signs in Matt 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13, as LITERAL.   These are Satan’s signs, in his world  – fake, a deterrent, a counterfeit from the real war at hand. They are not the signs of the coming Kingdom of God.
    JWs in Ukraine are not all anointed – a small number compared to the general population of JWs. The organization houses most anointed ones that have remained inside, among all the anointed “saints” who were “taken captive” (Col 2:8) and attacked by "empty philosophy".  It is they, who come against the two Beasts of Revelation – two – a Gog/false prophet and a Magog/Beast/organization - compiled king of the north that crushes, tramples, removes the power of God's priesthood,  and “kills” any who stand up to it. (Dan 11:31,32; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15-18; 20:7-9)
     So, how is it possible that the signs are fulfilled by one country at war with another, while JWs are doing their best along with many other Ukrainians to successfully get out of there? Is God only helping JWs get out?  How are the other people escaping?  Who is helping them?  What foolish thinking; especially when a typhoon comes along and kills JWs in their kingdom hall, known to be “God’s house”.   
     “Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.” Matt 13:10-11
    It is not a secret or a mystery that the world has suffered for eons down to this day from famines, wars, earthquakes, etc.
    “For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”  Matt 13:12,13
    Parables are the key that unlock the secrets of the kingdom.
    Matt 13:34 – “All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, he said nothing to them without a parable.”
    JW leaders tend to dismiss parables, as just “stories”.  They invalidate the words of Jesus by saying they are simply “warnings” if the parable doesn’t follow their manmade doctrine.  They change scriptures to read their way, to hide the connection to truth.
    Matt 13:8 NIV – “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.”
    Birth pains, not “pains of distress” (NWT) that covertly focuses the eye on the world instead of on the “woman” which represents the New Covenant (Gal 4:26) giving “birth” in Rev 12:1,2 -
    "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth."
    Because of this, God’s anointed have been deceived, taken captive by empty philosophy. They're not applying these signs to themselves, but to the world as they are taught by false prophets.   The signs of war, famine, earthquakes, etc. during the last days, are parables; their meaning is deeper than what the physical eye witnesses in the world of politics.
    Matt 24:3-5– “As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.”
    This is said right before the rest of the signs are given.  Who is telling God’s people that the signs are literal?  Those who have led them astray.  Again, the anointed under the New Covenant “woman” (Gal 4:26)  experience the signs in a spiritual way.  They are presently under the authority of false prophets and a false priesthood. (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:11,12,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4) This signifies the war at hand, with its outcome leading to the coming of the Kingdom of God, when the last faithful anointed who perceives the signs, is sealed into the Temple of God.  Satan, and the nations with Russia at the fore, can fight indefinitely, but it will not bring about the Kingdom. (Zech 4:7-10; Rev 12:5,17)
    As all of you feast your eyes on what you can apply physically to the fulfillment of God’s word, Jesus said,
     Now having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He replied, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed or with a visible display; 1 nor will people say, ‘Look! Here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For the kingdom of God is among you (in the midst of you).  Luke 17:20,21
    Sadly, these words of Jesus Christ most likely will not reach your spiritual ears, or the ears of God’s holy priesthood who have disregarded the signs that apply to them, who are under the New Covenant.  (1 Thess 5:3)
    Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:
    “‘“You will indeed hear but never understand,
        and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
    15 For this people's heart has grown dull,
        and with their ears they can barely hear,
        and their eyes they have closed,
    lest they should see with their eyes
        and hear with their ears
    and understand with their heart
        and turn, and I would heal them.’  Matt 13:14,15
    The Sign of the End
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Do JWs feel they have not been deceived when they believe the exact line of reasoning as the majority who apply the Bible’s signs as literal evidence of the coming Kingdom? Of course they don’t believe they have been deceived.   Yet, all Christian religions have their “king of the north/south”, as nations in the world which Satan has dominion over.  So do JWs.  What then, sets JWs apart from the masses in Christendom?
    Nothing.  Almost all believers see most of the signs in Matt 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13, as LITERAL.   These are Satan’s signs, in his world  – fake, a deterrent, a counterfeit from the real war at hand. They are not the signs of the coming Kingdom of God.
    JWs in Ukraine are not all anointed – a small number compared to the general population of JWs. The organization houses most anointed ones that have remained inside, among all the anointed “saints” who were “taken captive” (Col 2:8) and attacked by "empty philosophy".  It is they, who come against the two Beasts of Revelation – two – a Gog/false prophet and a Magog/Beast/organization - compiled king of the north that crushes, tramples, removes the power of God's priesthood,  and “kills” any who stand up to it. (Dan 11:31,32; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15-18; 20:7-9)
     So, how is it possible that the signs are fulfilled by one country at war with another, while JWs are doing their best along with many other Ukrainians to successfully get out of there? Is God only helping JWs get out?  How are the other people escaping?  Who is helping them?  What foolish thinking; especially when a typhoon comes along and kills JWs in their kingdom hall, known to be “God’s house”.   
     “Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.” Matt 13:10-11
    It is not a secret or a mystery that the world has suffered for eons down to this day from famines, wars, earthquakes, etc.
    “For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”  Matt 13:12,13
    Parables are the key that unlock the secrets of the kingdom.
    Matt 13:34 – “All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, he said nothing to them without a parable.”
    JW leaders tend to dismiss parables, as just “stories”.  They invalidate the words of Jesus by saying they are simply “warnings” if the parable doesn’t follow their manmade doctrine.  They change scriptures to read their way, to hide the connection to truth.
    Matt 13:8 NIV – “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.”
    Birth pains, not “pains of distress” (NWT) that covertly focuses the eye on the world instead of on the “woman” which represents the New Covenant (Gal 4:26) giving “birth” in Rev 12:1,2 -
    "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth."
    Because of this, God’s anointed have been deceived, taken captive by empty philosophy. They're not applying these signs to themselves, but to the world as they are taught by false prophets.   The signs of war, famine, earthquakes, etc. during the last days, are parables; their meaning is deeper than what the physical eye witnesses in the world of politics.
    Matt 24:3-5– “As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.”
    This is said right before the rest of the signs are given.  Who is telling God’s people that the signs are literal?  Those who have led them astray.  Again, the anointed under the New Covenant “woman” (Gal 4:26)  experience the signs in a spiritual way.  They are presently under the authority of false prophets and a false priesthood. (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:11,12,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4) This signifies the war at hand, with its outcome leading to the coming of the Kingdom of God, when the last faithful anointed who perceives the signs, is sealed into the Temple of God.  Satan, and the nations with Russia at the fore, can fight indefinitely, but it will not bring about the Kingdom. (Zech 4:7-10; Rev 12:5,17)
    As all of you feast your eyes on what you can apply physically to the fulfillment of God’s word, Jesus said,
     Now having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He replied, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed or with a visible display; 1 nor will people say, ‘Look! Here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For the kingdom of God is among you (in the midst of you).  Luke 17:20,21
    Sadly, these words of Jesus Christ most likely will not reach your spiritual ears, or the ears of God’s holy priesthood who have disregarded the signs that apply to them, who are under the New Covenant.  (1 Thess 5:3)
    Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:
    “‘“You will indeed hear but never understand,
        and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
    15 For this people's heart has grown dull,
        and with their ears they can barely hear,
        and their eyes they have closed,
    lest they should see with their eyes
        and hear with their ears
    and understand with their heart
        and turn, and I would heal them.’  Matt 13:14,15
    The Sign of the End
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Out of curiosity, if you have enemies who hate you, why do some pretend to be among your fold to cause trouble for unsuspecting passerbys?   
    Do you know that thousands of JWs were Catholics at one time?  My brother and myself grew up as Catholics and became JWs.  Interestingly, we were not "shunned" by our Catholic family for making the decision. 
      What "woman in question", and who is it that is speaking for "her"?  What sort of conspiracy are you up to now?  
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Is the Current President of Ukraine Really a Jewish Nazi Collaborator?   
    This 'thread' and in fact this forum in dominated by Amercian thinking. 
    Revelation states that Yeshua made it possible for people of ALL nations to be Chosen. 
    The GB don't want that, and the GB have told those other Anointed not to meet together. 
    Surely as world events unfold then ALL of the Anointed Remnant should be in contact with each other.
    Rather than rely on 'worldly' news, surely the Anointed remnant shoud be guiding God's people. 
    But you people are more interested in two things. 1. Serving the GB and it's Org. 2. Being involved with this political world. 
    Indeed, By their works one will know them. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Is the Current President of Ukraine Really a Jewish Nazi Collaborator?   
    The GB are the ones that say only they are the Faithful and Discreet slave.
    And the GB say that YHWH and Yeshua trust the GB.  
    The GB also strictly advise all other Anointed ones NOT TO MEET TOGETHER. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    1, Secular crimes ? Well American law is different to UK law of course.  I would say in UK law the GB are guilty of Aiding and Abeting Pedophilia in the JW Org, and Aiding and Abeting the victimization of CSA victims. Withholding information from the Legal Authorities... et al. It might be possible to add things such as deliberately making 'rules' through the Watchtower and JW Org which deliberately caused the bullying of congregants to the point of causing distress, and causing immorality to be easy to commit within theJW org.  I would think there could be a lot of criminal offences that have been commited by the GB. 
    2. I didn't say Yeshua WAS NOT HUMAN. I said YHWH and Yeshua ARE not men because they ARE not human . 
    Can you understand past tense from present tense ? 
    3,  The GB hold power by pretending that only they, those 8 men, are the Faithful and Discreet slave.
    Then the GB push this at the congregation by pretending that YHWH and Yeshua 'trust them' so then demanding that all the congregants trust the GB. 
    Then the GB issue rules to the Elders to disfellowship anyone that questions the GB's rules or teachings, using the poor excuse of 'causing a division in the congregation'. Because the congregants are frightened of being d/fed the congregants are then fully under the power of the wicked GB. 
    BUT YOU KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY DIMMY. 
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Pudgy in Out of curiosity, if you have enemies who hate you, why do some pretend to be among your fold to cause trouble for unsuspecting passerbys?   
    Do you know that thousands of JWs were Catholics at one time?  My brother and myself grew up as Catholics and became JWs.  Interestingly, we were not "shunned" by our Catholic family for making the decision. 
      What "woman in question", and who is it that is speaking for "her"?  What sort of conspiracy are you up to now?  
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    Witness reacted to Kick_Faceinator in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Death spoken here is spiritual. It’s being thrown out of the synagogues/Kingdom Halls, shunned. We gotta remember, Revelation is symbolic and spoken in signs.
    It about the anointed and their JW’s friends that don’t fear being disfellowshipped while losing their lives in the organization for speaking the truth in their congregations. They loved the truth more than their status, more than keeping their friends or any love of their family in organization (Matthew 10:37; Luke 14:26; Philippians 3:7-9). 
    “They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.” John 16:2
    “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death [once you are put the death you will be shunned and hated], and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.” Matthew 24:9
    Taking a bullet to the head is the easy way out. If Putin were an enemy that would be great, but he’s just a distraction. Satan knows being called trash for the rest of your life till’ you’re physically dead for speaking the truth to an organization is much, much harsher on the back, he’s a master at this.
    “We appeal gently when evil things are said about us. Yet we are treated like the world’s garbage, like everybody’s trash—right up to the present moment.” 1 Corinthians 4:13
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in "Bathing" in Pure Worship - GB Samuel Herd   
    About ten years ago, my son bought a very old and humble little house that was built with lumber milled from the massive sugar pines of the area. The lumber was gleaned from an abandoned mining town located up the mountain pass, whose heyday lasted for a few short years in the 1860’s. Since the early 1930’s this house had many changes over the years, modestly growing in size as the original family grew. Still, the family’s five children shared one small bedroom.  The outhouse was exchanged for indoor plumbing amenities in the 1960’s. Ten years ago, the house received a few new walls, new flooring and new paint.  But today, instead of having it leveled to the ground, which many people would favor, it is again being restored on a greater level.  The internal flimsy walls are coming down, the low ceiling will be renewed and lofted. Repairs are planned that will stabilize the entire structure.  With new windows, new doors, and efficient heat, little will be left to remind one of the original house.  It is a restoration in progress, one that takes patience, endurance, and hard work for a young man to take on.   
    Upon leaving the organization, many of us begin an internal restoration work on our spiritual “house” of faith.  We tear down the decrepit whitewashed “walls” of false doctrines, letting the light of Christ’s truth shine in the window of our soul.  (Isa 42:7; Ps 97:11; Eph 5:14; Matt 7:7; James 1:5)
     Under God’s grace, we are then able to discern or “see” clearly; not only the dark spiritual state we left behind, but we acknowledge the work laid out in front of us, shoring up the foundation of our faith in the truth and wisdom of the Father and Jesus Christ. (Luke 9:62; 5:36-38; Matt 7:24-27)  Certainly, it takes patience and endurance to remain on the lighted path Christ has set before us. (John 1:9; 3:21; 8:12; Matt 10:38; 2 Cor 6:4; Heb 12:2) 
    The term, “restoration” was mentioned by Governing Body member Samuel Herd, regarding pure worship, during the annual meeting of the organization.  He said -
     “At what time are we living?  We’re blessed to be living in a special time period, and this began as far back as 1914.  It’s more than just the last days of this old system of things.  Well, why is that?  Notice what the Bible says – Acts 3:21, it’s also called the times of the restoration of all things.  Now let the word, “restoration” linger in your mind.  Why does that matter?  We’re living in a time of restoration of all things because pure worship has been restored! We’re bathing in it, and the worship of Jehovah will never be corrupted, ever again.”
    Is this true? Can it be said, that JWs are “bathing” in pure worship when their doctrines have been proven to be impure with the passing of time? (Acts 20:28-30; 2 Tim 4:3,4) These past “truths” have become the refuse of false teachers, which they would rather hide from the eyes of JWs. (Matt 7:15-20;15:7-9; Luke 6:45; 1 John 1:6)
    An earthly organization requires rules and regulations that its members must follow.  They must adhere to its mission statement, by serving its needs and goals. (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:19,20; Rev 13:10)  To succeed as an organization, the governing leaders have contrived a form of impure worship, by attaching their own decrees to God’s word, and exalting the organization/idol as leading one to salvation. (Ps 64:1-6; Hab 1:16,17; 2 Cor 11:4; Rev 13:11,12,14) 
    Moses expressed the covenant God made with Israel, when establishing them as His people.  In Deut. 29, he reminded them of their time in Egypt –
    “You saw their abhorrent images and idols made of wood, stone, silver, and gold, which were among them. 18 Be sure there is no man, woman, clan, or tribe among you today whose heart turns away from the Lord our God to go and worship the gods of those nations. Be sure there is no root among you bearing poisonous and bitter fruit.  19 When someone hears the words of this oath, he may consider himself exempt, thinking, ‘I will have peace even though I follow my own stubborn heart.’ This will lead to the destruction of the well-watered land as well as the dry land.”
    Heb 12:15 - “Make sure that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no root of bitterness springs up, causing trouble and defiling many.” 
    Jesus said we will recognize false teachers by the “fruit” they produce.  Revelation shows us that in the last days, God’s people, His “land” (Isa 66:1,2; John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9; Gal 4:6; 1 Cor 3:16; Rom 8:9; Luke 8:11,15)…
    …are drinking in poisoned waters sourced in a root of bitterness.  They are “eating” “fruit” that rots; known at one time as “present truth”. They are engaging in idolatrous practices – “eating food sacrificed to idols”.   (1 Cor 10:19-22; Rev 2:20; 16:14-16)
    Rev 8:10,11 – “The third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters. 11 The star is named Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many people died from the waters because they were made bitter.”
    The fallen anointed “great star”/”Beast from the Earth”, once under covenant with God, now walks in the stubbornness of his heart. (Ps 78:5-8,36,37; Jer 11:10; Dan 11:30-32; Rev 13:11,12)  
    “Wormwood” signified the composite leadership/”heads” of the organization today. (Rev 12:3; 17:9;13:1,11,12)  It is blatantly obvious by the history of the “fruit” they have produced. (John 15:16) They have deceived the “elect”, in the only earthly organization that houses the chosen priests of God. (1 Pet 2:5,9)
    As we can see by the warning in Deut. 29 above, this presence of Wormwood points to the defilement of worship, through idolatry.  (Jer 23:15; Amos 5:7; Matt 24:4,5,24,25; 2 Cor 11:3,4,13; Rev 13:11,12,4,15)
    The governing leader is correct; in that it is the time of restoration of pure worship, but it will never, ever occur in a corrupt human organization, that has allowed the spiritual house of God built with the anointed “living stones” (1 Pet 2:5), to be trampled down by “Gentiles”.  “Jerusalem’s”, “walls” have been breached – truth has been thrown to the ground.  (Jer 12:10; 51:51; Lam 1:17,18;2:7,8; Zeph 3:4; Dan 8:12,13;25; 9:17; Mark 13:14; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2;13:7)
    These spiritual harlots have used their army of counterfeit priests to promote, support and give worship to ”Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4) This is what God’s anointed and all JWs, are “bathing” in – flooding waters of idolatrous teachings and the doctrine of men, which has completely crushed the relationship that God’s holy priesthood are to maintain with the Father and the Son. (1 Cor 6:15,16,18-20; 2 Cor 6:14-18; Dan 9:26; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:15,16; 16:13,14)
    Because of this plight on God’s anointed, a remnant seeks to understand what “pure worship" requires. They desire to give acceptable offerings to Him, through sacrifices of praise as He has intended for His priesthood to carry out. (Jer.30:3; Isa.14:2; Hosea6:11; Zeph.3:20) ( Jer 3:22; 1 Pet 2:9; Heb 13:15; Rev 7:10,12)
    Depending on the translation, “restoration” is used in 2 Chron 24:13,27(NIV), mentioning the “repairing” of the temple and restoring its walls after the siege of Babylon. In God’s spiritual Temple today, each anointed is a “living stone” dwelling of His Spirit. (1 Cor 3:16,17)
    Isa 58:8 speaks of a promise of spiritual healing, of a “restoring to soundness” to God’s Israel, who were burdened down by sin resulting in the rejection of His laws.  This spiritual healing restores the relationship between the Father and His “sons”. ( Jer 8:22; 51:51; 30:17,18; Ps 119:18)
    In 2 Cor 13:11(NIV) it alludes to the individual, ‘mending what has been broken’, to reach perfection of faith through instruction and training in God’s word.  This leads to repentance, discipline and refinement.  (Zeph 3:4; Ezek 44:23; Mal 2:7) (1 John 2:3-5;3:7,8,23,24; 5:3; 2 John 1:6; Col 3:9; Heb 12:5,6,11; Rev 3:18)
    And Acts 3:21, the scripture the leader mentioned, which speaks of repentance through Jesus Christ, and the turning back to pure worship of God, leading to the “times of restoration of all things”.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+3%3A19-21&version=CSB
    The necessary restoration of pure worship is based on the sound teachings of Jesus Christ - Truth. (2 Tim 1:13; 4:3,5) Have the organization’s leaders repented for their numerous failed predictions and promises?  It would be evident by their “fruit”, showing that they have converted fully to Jesus Christ for guidance. They would reject the need for the organization and would gather with the anointed body under Jesus Christ, instead of preventing their bonding, as they express in their literature. (Lam 4:1,16,12,13; Dan 9:7; Luke 19:44; 21:24; Eph 4:4;1 Cor 12:27,25,26)  
    However, they continue to exalt the idol and rely on concocted delusions of their own minds. (Isa 65:2;Jer 3:23; 51:17,18; 23:26) 
    After the destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon, Nehemiah had heard from survivors, “The wall of Jerusalem is broken down, and its gates have been burned in the fire.” (Neh 1:3)  He mourned for days at this news, recognizing that the result of the grievous sins of his people, led to their capture. These walls were a protection from the enemy forces, yet without God’s Spirit as their ultimate protection, they were conquered. (Ezek 5:11)
     Nehemiah spoke of the promise God gave under Moses:
    9 “But if you return to me and keep my commandments and do them, even though all of your outcasts are at the furthest parts of heaven, I will gather them and bring them to the place which I have chosen to make my name dwell.”  Neh 1:9
    The following event related by Jesus Christ in Matt 17:11, has been deliberately ignored by the organization, by falsely saying this took place with John the Baptist.    
    Matt 17:10,11 - So the disciples asked him, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first? " 11 "Elijah is coming and will restore everything," he replied. 
    I am wondering how the organization justifies their “restoration” without the appearance of the prophet in the manner of “Elijah”. It is by the word of men that they announce “restoration”, and not by the word of God. (2 Pet 1:21) This work of a designated prophet sent by God before the return of Christ, is also outlined in Mal 3:1-4.
     
    The work of "Elijah" preaches a restoration of the bond between God's elect,
    and their Fathers (Matt.17:11; Luke1:16-17; Isa.61:3-4).
    Without the restoration of those bonds...
    demonic teachings, cloudy eyes, lying hands, darkness, wormwood waters, sin, and death,
    (1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:14-16; 2:20; 13:11,15; Amos 5:18,20)…
    …will take away all the "earth"/homeland of God.
    This is why Jesus causes these "two witnesses" to prophesy (Rev.11:3),
    for the sake of a late crop/remnant…
    (Rev.20:5; Amos7:1; Rev.7:9,13-14; Isa.1:9; 37:32; Ezra 9:8; Eze.14:22; Luke13:23-24; Matt.24:22; 19:25-26; Isa.37:32)

    …which still contains a blessing (Isa.65:8; Joel 2:14) (John15:4-5; Luke21:36; 12:37; Prov.1:23). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa.65%3A8%3B+Joel+2%3A14%3BJohn15%3A4-5%3B+Luke21%3A36%3B+12%3A37%3B+Prov.1%3A23&version=NIV
    Pearl Doxsey - “Two Witnesses/Lampstands”  https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/02/two-witnesses-lampstands.html
     
    A new coat of whitewash applied by the governing leaders, will not support apostate “Jerusalem’s” walls of lies any longer. We are now seeing the bare bones of false doctrine exposed, leaving them unable to defend their lies. (Prov 26:23-28; Deut 29:20,21; Jer 50:38; 51:6,7,12,13; Rev 18:3-10)
    Their “house” is crumbling. (Prov 18:11; Ezek 13:10,11,12,14,15)
    Those of “New Jerusalem” who, with patient endurance, strive to be faithful and submit to refinement by the Father, are rebuilding walls of truth through their message of reunion and restoration. (2 Cor 1:6;Heb 10:36; Rev 14:12; 1 Thess 2:4; 7:17)
    Isa 49:6 - "He says: "It is too small a thing for you to be My servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that My salvation may reach to the ends of the earth."   
    At https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ -
    Discerning the Body/Messenger of the Covenant
    Where are the Wild Beasts?
    Elijah Turns the Hearts
    "World"/"Earth"/"HOME"
    Second Resurrection
    First the "Wall"...Then the Entire Temple
     

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    Witness reacted to Pudgy in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    I hereby give you full Power of Attorney to post public information for any crime of any sort that I have been convicted of.
    You have accused me of being a  convict and on probation and on parole … NONE of which are true.
    You are a liar in each case, and a slanderer in each case …. AND SHOULD BE BANNED for that reason alone.
    Any of the above are public information which can be easily checked by anyone with a telephone.
    Feel free to post it here … to prove you are NOT a liar and a slanderer. 
    I think you are lying about it being against State Law to divulge public records. But that is only conjecture, just a guess.
    If so, you are more of a weasel than a real weasel.
    Have a checkable reference citation for ANY of the above.?
    Be a sport …. Do it.
    If you do not, you stand self-condemned.
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in How much are Watchtower Lawyers paid?   
    Here down  is original comment.
    Additional comment related to the original:
    In this particular situation (Charlie Hebdo shootings) in France, some people who are followers/members of Islam (two Muslims) done violent act in the name of Islam. 
    As you see from my original comment, i didn't say how Islam is violent. And i didn't make claim how Muslims are violent because Islam is violent religion.
    You made fine observation where we can see how people from various religious background acted violently (individually or organized).
    As for the violent act of conduct in WTJWorg, violence of this type is contained in the manipulative actions of religious leaders (guardians of doctrine) and executors of orders (primarily elders and from majority of members). A further psychological act of violence is in the methods of shunning, towards members, ex-members and even towards many who do not belong to the JW religion.
    We can always ask ourselves what is harder, to beat and kill someone? Or completely ignore and blackmail someone mentally and emotionally?
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in How much are Watchtower Lawyers paid?   
    Why are you asking me that. I cited a situation where members of Islam were violent, not JW. SM's mentality infected you? He have habit to construct other people comments.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in How much are Watchtower Lawyers paid?   
    I can understand WTJWorg's commitment to sending its lawyers to Russia and then suing Russia in international bodies because they are banned from operating and because the Russian authorities are imprisoning their members.
    But that WTJWorg is going to deal with satirical videos that mock JW doctrines? How did some members of Islam react when they saw satire at the expense of their religion in French newspapers? Instead of bloodshed, they were to look to JW lawyers and seek compensation in the form of money and imprisonment for individuals.
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in How much are Watchtower Lawyers paid?   
    I had all that info' come through on an email as I'm on the mailing list.  
    Jesus made it very clear that true Christians should turn the other cheek, give the inner/outer garmnet also, walk the extra mile................ 
    The GB are just greedy selfish non-Christian men that love power and attention.  And of course they are guilty of ruining people's lives and they don't want JW's or outsiders to know the truth about how they work. 
    Fancy being happy that you drive people to suicide. Split up families. Hide pedophiles in their organisation. Disfellowship victims of CSA just to get them out of the way. And then cry like babies when the truth is revealed about them. 
    The GB are wicked money grabbing selfish hypocrits. But their time of judgement will come.
    Remember Luke 17 : 1&2 
    Berean Study Bible
    Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
    No Dimmy, I am not one of the fake 'christians' that love everyone. I hate the things that YHWH hates. 
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    The video talks about the public part of the JW library and the part that is not publicly available. Is that clear to you? It is clear to me.
    The video also talks about “access” to publications (I add; any kind, not just magazines). And we commented on that as well.
    So the theme of the video, for me, is not cramped and limited only with WT magazines written 100 or more years ago.
    Does every JW have access to correspondence between HQ and assemblies, and the so-called BOE Letters? Does every JW have access to the so-called Shepherd book? And so on, and so forth.
    I know they doesn't. And you know that too. Then what are we talking about? We’re talking about “secret” parts of the library (archives are next level) , and also so called "confidential" documentation that is of JW public interest. (I don’t include CSA data here, or excluded JW persons and their “sins”, that’s another topic). I am talking about records and publications that include the actions of the corporation, technical and religious administration, doctrinal twists, etc. that affects every day life of members/followers.
    If the average JW members does not have access to, say, the Shepherd book, and if the vast majority of them do not know that the book exists, then the meaning of the terms "public" and "secret" has changed.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You speak enigmatically, or I don't understand enough English language. Do you personally believe in the "overlapping generation"?
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    The "questionable" video talks about that. Witness and I comment on this. And you with SM are harassing us with your comments. Why, when you say this now?
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    So why then do you (all JWs) accept the “overlapping generation” as a true doctrine? :))
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Imagine what, those JWs who were given the task to collect and put all this material in order, think about it. I would love to see and hear their reactions they had during the work. Or were they insensitive Borgs?
    Dmitar i SM, they have prejudices against anyone who comes from the JW milieu and is no longer a member of them. For two of them, ex-JW are liars. 
    It’s really interesting that the two of them can so easily accuse people who have been the “most honest” people in the world for decades because they belonged to the JW religion, and that they became hardened liars so soon after leaving JWorg. A truly stunning psychological analysis by these two “artists”.
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    The video is about concealment, the hiding of the history of teachings by your leaders, since its inception.  This could have been an easy access for JWs to peruse all publications, but it is guarded and only a select group can go there.  The fourth layer of your website gives access to all changes in doctrines over the years, for comparison reasons.  That too, is locked away from the average JW.  Instead, you receive what is called, “Beliefs Clarified”, most likely a shaved down version, not containing all changes.  Every one of these changes are lies, not clarifications of truth from Jesus Christ.  If one claims to teach truth, but hides what he has taught, has it ever been truth?  The massive database of publications that you cannot access because they are defunct, proves one thing - the production of "bad fruit".  Matt 7:15-20.  
    "Therefore by their fruits you will know them." Matt 15:20  
    Know who?  False teachers, false prophets prophesied by Jesus Christ to deceive the chosen ones - anointed, in the last days.  
    “but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.”  1 Thess 5:21,22
    It is impossible for JWs to do that, to test what their leaders have produced and make the choice to abstain from "bad fruit".  This is restricted on their own approved website -  to examine the entire production of "fruit" taught by the organization over the years.  Not one JW here, is expressing an opinion on this, except Dmitar, which tells me, that JWs -
    …Are blind and “drunk” on their leaders' “wine”/teachings, and don’t care  (Isa 28:7-15; Jer 5:30,31; Rev 17:1-6)
    …Are too uncomfortable to consider why they can’t view their organization’s publications at the touch of a finger, on the approved website for them to use;  which is cognitive dissonance.
    …May have their opinion, may not even like it, but refuse to make waves.  Sure, they can go elsewhere to find old publications while at the same time their leaders warn them not to.  Are Wt leaders who do have access, better persons, stronger, smarter, more qualified somehow to study what the organization taught in the past?  It’s all about control of the masses. 
    SM, never a JW, never a member of the organization, went down his own road following his own agenda.  That's fine, but he pushed it on myself and Srecko; seemingly diverting guilt on us, instead of guilting the organization for their spiritual cult-like tactics, and their inability to teach truth in Jesus Christ.   
    But, what can one expect from a pushy guy, a "Preacher" of the “world”,  who seems to think he understands what it is to be a JW or an exJW.🙂
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    The video is about concealment, the hiding of the history of teachings by your leaders, since its inception.  This could have been an easy access for JWs to peruse all publications, but it is guarded and only a select group can go there.  The fourth layer of your website gives access to all changes in doctrines over the years, for comparison reasons.  That too, is locked away from the average JW.  Instead, you receive what is called, “Beliefs Clarified”, most likely a shaved down version, not containing all changes.  Every one of these changes are lies, not clarifications of truth from Jesus Christ.  If one claims to teach truth, but hides what he has taught, has it ever been truth?  The massive database of publications that you cannot access because they are defunct, proves one thing - the production of "bad fruit".  Matt 7:15-20.  
    "Therefore by their fruits you will know them." Matt 15:20  
    Know who?  False teachers, false prophets prophesied by Jesus Christ to deceive the chosen ones - anointed, in the last days.  
    “but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.”  1 Thess 5:21,22
    It is impossible for JWs to do that, to test what their leaders have produced and make the choice to abstain from "bad fruit".  This is restricted on their own approved website -  to examine the entire production of "fruit" taught by the organization over the years.  Not one JW here, is expressing an opinion on this, except Dmitar, which tells me, that JWs -
    …Are blind and “drunk” on their leaders' “wine”/teachings, and don’t care  (Isa 28:7-15; Jer 5:30,31; Rev 17:1-6)
    …Are too uncomfortable to consider why they can’t view their organization’s publications at the touch of a finger, on the approved website for them to use;  which is cognitive dissonance.
    …May have their opinion, may not even like it, but refuse to make waves.  Sure, they can go elsewhere to find old publications while at the same time their leaders warn them not to.  Are Wt leaders who do have access, better persons, stronger, smarter, more qualified somehow to study what the organization taught in the past?  It’s all about control of the masses. 
    SM, never a JW, never a member of the organization, went down his own road following his own agenda.  That's fine, but he pushed it on myself and Srecko; seemingly diverting guilt on us, instead of guilting the organization for their spiritual cult-like tactics, and their inability to teach truth in Jesus Christ.   
    But, what can one expect from a pushy guy, a "Preacher" of the “world”,  who seems to think he understands what it is to be a JW or an exJW.🙂
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You think too much. That is why you persistently claim that other people thought or said this or that, and they did not. What do you care if I vote for someone else's comments or they vote for mine? You see where that got you. To your own misconceptions and misconceptions about others. Maybe we are just collecting points on the forum :))))))
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You really have reading  problem about what things i sad i agree and/or about I not said agree or disagree. 
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