ELDER "PRIESTS"?

[Witness]

 

"Following the model of first-century Christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no clergy-laity division. All baptized Witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work. Witnesses are organized into congregations of about 100 believers. Spiritually mature men in each congregation serve as “older men,” or elders."

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/no-paid-clergy/

Is it true that JWs do not have a "clergy-laity" division? 

Contributed:

If you are a JW and are waiting for the great tribulation to start, and a nation to invade your “spiritual paradise”, it is not going to happen as you've been told. As much as you want to believe it, Gods land, or “land of decoration” as the New World Translation calls it, is not your activity of JW meetings and field ministry as the Watchtower would want you to believe. You see, Gods land are the anointed (1 Corinthians 3:9; 1 Corinthians 3:16). The nation that invades God’s land (Daniel 11:41) is the same nation that invades God’s temple (Joel 1:6; Revelation 9:7-10; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). Has Russia invaded the Temple of anointed or tried to replace the anointed as priests? No. Russia doesn’t even care. But, there is a nation of men who do care and want the power of the anointed. In fact, they have already invaded God’s land and are standing in the temple, trampling it at this very moment (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Luke 21:24). This nation that makes up the king of the north is better known to you as your body of elders.

The governing body opened the doors for the elders to invade God’s land, like locusts (Joel 2:2-4; Revelation 9:9), installing them in the temple (Daniel 8:24; 12:11; 11:31) and replacing God’s chosen anointed priests.

This army of elders are imposter priests, wolves dressed in priest-like clothing. Remember, nobody but anointed are to be priests. After all, the anointed are the royal priesthood ordained by God Himself (1 Peter 2:5;9; Ephesians 2:20-22; Revelation 5:10). Anyone who isn’t anointed and trespasses into the temple while trying to be your spiritual shepherd and hold judicial matters over you, are, according to the Bible, worthy of death (Numbers 18:7; 3:10; Matthew 24:15; 2 Chronicles 26:16; 2 Chronicles 23:6). The body of elders have done just this, defiling Gods temple:

“If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” 1 Corinthians 3:17

The great tribulation is already well underway. You’re probably thinking that’s impossible because you’re living  the “best life ever”; but remember, you were taught by a false prophet/governing body and their man of lawlessness/elder body what “their” description of the great tribulation was going to be like, where they are the victors. You need to get rid of almost everything you have ever been taught by the governing body and get a new wineskin (Matthew 9:17), otherwise new teachings from the marriage feast will not work with the old. Nobody can eat from the Lord’s table and the table of demons (1 Corinthians 10:21). The disgusting thing is already discerned standing in the holy place, which are the elder body standing in the temple. So, when you see the elders acting like priests, trampling Jerusalem, disregarding truth and disfellowshipping the anointed temple (Dan 8:24; Luke 21:20; 19:43; 21:24), Jesus said to flee (Mark 13:14).

 

 The Greatest Tribulation - What and Why

 

[Moise Racette]

It appears the poster has a structural and biblical misunderstanding on the concept of the words. Perhaps, it can be corrected by this example.

https://www.gotquestions.org/clergy-and-laity.html

 

[Witness]

 

 

On 11/12/2022 at 1:41 PM, Witness said:

This army of elders are imposter priests, wolves dressed in priest-like clothing. Remember, nobody but anointed are to be priests. After all, the anointed are the royal priesthood ordained by God Himself (1 Peter 2:5;9; Ephesians 2:20-22; Revelation 5:10). Anyone who isn’t anointed and trespasses into the temple while trying to be your spiritual shepherd and hold judicial matters over you, are, according to the Bible, worthy of death (Numbers 18:7; 3:10; Matthew 24:15; 2 Chronicles 26:16; 2 Chronicles 23:6).

"As you come to him, a living stone—rejected by people but chosen and honored by God— ⁵ you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 1 Pet 2:4,5

“For the lips of a priest should guard knowledge, and people should desire instruction from his mouth, because he is the messenger of the Lord of Armies.” Mal 2:7

The unanointed elder body, who act as representatives of God’s priests, has placed itself in a role with the help of rogue priests/GB (Dan 8:24; Rev 13:11,12)...
...a role that is blessed by the GB only, NOT blessed by God, as we see clarification through His word. To say that this body of men have full authority over the anointed priesthood, is blasphemy, and predicted to occur in the last days.

 ^“From one of them a little horn emerged and grew extensively toward the south and the east and toward the beautiful land. ¹⁰ It grew as high as the heavenly army, made some of the army and some of the stars (Gen 15:5; Dan 12:3; Phil 2:15; Rev 1:16,20) fall to the earth (Rev 12:1,4) and trampled them. (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) ¹¹ It acted arrogantly even against the Prince of the heavenly army (Jesus Christ); it revoked his regular sacrifice and overthrew the place of his sanctuary.(1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 13:6) ¹² In the rebellion, the army was given up, together with the regular sacrifice. The horn threw truth to the ground and was successful in what it did.” Dan 8:9-12

“The army was given up”.  WHO has control over the anointed priests today - the “heavenly army” that should listen to Jesus Christ, and not to men? (John 15:16,7,8)   Who, have given up their role as God’s priests?  Who, have allowed themselves to be “trampled” down by an arrogant body of men? (Matt 5:13-16)

How is truth thrown to the ground in the organization?  Each anointed has been given Holy Spirit in their hearts at the anointing.  If they worked together as one body under Jesus Christ, TRUTH from him would be prominent because they would “remain in him”. (1 John 2:27; Matt 7:15-20)  But of course, that is forbidden under the GB rule!  The priesthood cannot meet as one body.  It is written in the elder book that no group can study the scriptures independently from the "unified" study arrangement created by GB/spiritual harlots. (Rev 8:10,11; 17:1,2) That would be a threat against these false prophets!  (Matt 24:24,25) THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT SUCH A LYING CLAIM.  ON THE CONTRARY, IT TEACHES JUST THE OPPOSITE.  1 Corinthians chapter 12

CAN’T YOU SEE THE REBELLION AGAINST JESUS CHRIST AND HIS ANOINTED ONES THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAST DAYS?  (Rev 12:7,8; 16:13-16 (Rev 1:5,6)

“Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregation of Jehovah’s people around the world.”

“Rather than CHALLENGE their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”   Wt 2002/8/1

Placing these men in the position of God’s priesthood (“kings of the earth”) is an act of blasphemy, and an act of war. (REV 16:13-16)

“And it was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. It was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.”  Rev 13:7

So, where did the elder body get their authority to act as God’s priesthood?  Who permitted them to conquer God’s “saints”/priests?  Well, the GB. (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:11,12) 

But who is behind the entire plan?

Rev 13: - “The beast (organization represented by the elder body) I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. The dragon gave the beast his power, his throne, and great authority.”

This organizational setup is demonic.  And all of you have been deceived.  

You have a throne, elders! (2 Thess 2:3,4) You have seized the throne of the royal priesthood!  By replacing the authority of God’s priest, who are His dwelling/Temple) your lives are in great danger. (1 Cor 3:16,17)  Please, read the scriptures that tell us WHO the “man of lawlessness” is, that tramples down the holy priesthood of God in the last days. (Dan 11:31; Rev 11:1-3) That is YOU, spiritual “Gentiles”, and your unauthorized position of ruling over the anointed.  (Mark 13:14)

^12 “The person who acts arrogantly, refusing to listen either to the priest who stands there serving the Lord your God or to the judge, must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.” Deut 17:12

God will act upon these words through His Son, Jesus Christ -  2 Thess 2:3,4,7-12; Rev 19:20; 20:10

THERE IS NO SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY GIVEN TO US BY GOD, TO REPLACE THE ROYAL PRIESTHOOD.

FLEE!  Rev 18:4-8

[Moise Racette]

Now the poster is desperate enough to submit lies. There is a clear understanding in scripture on how the failures of the literal Jew became the spiritual leader.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

More can be found in the book of ACTS and Titus. An "overseer" can be compared to an Elder.

Therefore, viewers should flee from imposters. Christians pretending to see the light, when there is only darkness.

[Witness]

3 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

More can be found in the book of ACTS and Titus. An "overseer" can be compared to an Elder.

The "overseers" in the days of the apostles and the anointed with them, were anointed priests. (Mal 2:7; Rom 15:16) The "elders" in the book of Revelation are also, faithful, sealed, anointed priests.  (Rev 5:9,10)

Rev 4:4,10; 5:8,14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; Acts 2:17

Wt elders are appointed by men, not by God as the anointed are. (Gal 1:1,11-12,15-17; 1 Cor 4:1; 1 Thess 2:4 )  Changing the laws of God by introducing a different "overseer", not anointed, not spiritually "circumcised", (Rom 2:29; Heb 8:10) than whom God had already set up through His Son, is the breaking of God's laws about the priesthood.  They are clear, concise, and apply today in a spiritual way, to God's "living stones" of His Temple dwelling. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22)

“Don’t think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.  For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or one stroke of a letter will pass away from the law until all things are accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  For I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never get into the kingdom of heaven."  Matt 5:17-20

So, since the GB has broken the laws of God by replacing God's anointed priests with "Gentile" elders, they have a lot to answer for.  

“Tell those rebellious people of Israel that I, the Sovereign Lord, will no longer tolerate the disgusting things that they have been doing. 7 They have profaned my Temple by letting uncircumcised foreigners, people who do not obey me, enter the Temple when the fat and the blood of the sacrifices are being offered to me. So my people have broken my covenant by all the disgusting things they have done. 8 They have not taken charge of the sacred rituals in my Temple, but instead have put foreigners in charge."

7 hours ago, Witness said:

“Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregation of Jehovah’s people around the world.”

“I, the Sovereign Lord, declare that no uncircumcised foreigner, no one who disobeys me, will enter my Temple, not even a foreigner who lives among the people of Israel.” Ezek 44

7 hours ago, Witness said:

“Rather than CHALLENGE their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”   Wt 2002/8/1

"You drove out the Lord's priests, the descendants of Aaron, and you drove out the Levites. In their place you appointed priests in the same way that other nations do. Anybody who comes along with a bull or seven sheep can get himself consecrated as a priest of those so-called gods of yours." 2 Chron 13:9

So what happened in the past when the foreigners entered or took the place of God's assigned priests? We have the account of Korah to fill us in.

If any JW reading this - anointed, elders, and all JWs; any who actually value the word of God, and you can discern that the anointed have been trampled down by the ruling authority of the elder body over them, then FLEE!  Matt 24:15,16; Rev 18:4-8

I'm very sorry Allen, but it is obvious that you love your organization, your idol, more than you love the word of God. (Rev 13:4,15,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4, 7-12)

"So you shall appoint Aaron and his sons that they may keep their priesthood, but the layman who comes near shall be put to death."  Num 3:10

 

 

 

[Moise Racette]

The poster is making less sense with each post. The poster should then understand the procedures of the synagogue Elders along with the high priest. Elders that were acknowledged by the apostles.

You are therefore confusing the 144,000 anointed priests with the regular role of a spiritual leader. Learn scripture as to teach those that are distorting scripture alongside the poster

• The phrase "God is not mocked" is found in Galatians 6:7, "Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap." Mocking God means disrespecting, dishonoring, denying or ignoring His existence.