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Join me? Since when? And I really do not care of what they follow, my only concern is slander and stupidity, and utter shenanigans that demands a refutation, nothing more. That being said, it is humorous to see you speak of Unitarianism, if the last time you assumed all of us are the same, as in accepting of interfaith ideologies that was never part of the church of the Christ, a mistake Butler paid when he used that same source. Alluding to such will reap nothing for you and it is evident by my own responses I am against the interfaith practices, and my absolute hatred for the Kairos Movement. And I really do not care of what they follow, Upps, well by such feelings in your heart, you expressed in your own words .......... reveals a lot to me, and maybe to others who will read your text too.

WHY to leave if they, at age 6, were been "AWARE" how they get "the truth" ??? :)))

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart knew music notes before letters with 3 year of age, with 5 made simple composition and gave concerts. Well he was better candidate for baptism than many children today :))) A child, who is aware, ....Aware of WHAT? That his parents are deceived by religious leaders and teaching him uninspired, error doctrines and instructions that he and his parents MUST OBEY even if THEY ALL TOGETHER, AS PARENTS AND FAMILY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT DESPITE THAT MUST OBEY AND LISTEN??? !!! AWARE .... please who is silly? Me? :))) Or you who gave statement that CHILD is Aware ......of adult people wrongs and religious misconceptions ??!!

Not my reasoning, but okay for making yourself look silly. If you can show me some hermeneutics of John sprinkling water unto Jesus, perhaps you can convince me otherwise. That being said, one should question your reasoning when you make accusations against Jesus, his followers as well as prophets of God on occasion. Main issue of our conversation is - baptism of children, and NOT water. :)))

I guess how this Inspired Donkey, inspired by holy spirit, preached God's Words (you can call that gospel, message, warning or else) no matter was this Donkey preached that words to one person or to the people of nations :))) :)) animals today also praise the Lord :)) with or without "preaching and teaching", in forms and shapes that perhaps you would expect - :)) (talking about forms when individuals or organized groups spreading, what they call, god's words) Of course i don' t like how this god's creatures kill each other for food but i can't do nothing about it !

May i ask, How many 6 year old male and female has been there, according the Bible books you used here, to support this practice and your standpoint - baptizing children (minor, under age children, not to mention Jesus cca 30 years of old as TRUE EXAMPLE to follow, verified by written words in holy book :))) According to nowadays standard we can talk about age 18 (in Europe) as lawful age to make independent, competent DECISIONS.

I truly believe that kids are great. And how they are sincere little people. In comparison to "mature", "spiritual" people, like You or me, or @James Thomas Rook Jr., @Anna and @JW Insider you had mentioned. We all here, can be or not have to be "spiritual" by your' or someone else Measurement Tool , but more important question is: Are we always Sincere ... like children??!!

Perhaps 1914 have same significance as 1975. According to calculations made by JW Scholars those two dates means something to them. Maybe to JW Scholars of past time those dates was very important to them and JW members of those period. It would be interesting to know what JW Scholars of present time thinking about 1914 and 1975 dates? Are those dates have real value for events they represent - 1914 as end of one period and beginning of another, Kingdom rules and similar. 1975 as 6000 years of humankind on Earth ??!! Or JW Scholars "rowing" to some new unknown island, where they will find new dates and new meanings for old dates.

JW people are receiving ample spiritual instruction ... (err instructions as "new light" statement tell them :)) Thus, "the FDS" does not endorse any literature, meetings, or Web sites that are not produced or organized under its oversights. (GB have plenty ideas how to deceive own people, so members not need other sources of deceit :))

Difference between infant and 6 year old is enormous. When 6 year old decide to join some Religious Structure to be life time member that must be blessing for that child and his parents. To be Unitarian, in your case, or to be Seven Day Adventist or to be JW from such young age is good, firm platform that such individual will stay, in most, Member for Life Time in Particular Organized Religion, and that such Individual will not Changed his Religion when get older. Because such Individual already knows, from age 6, that Only his Religion is Only True One. And how SDA and JW are not True Religions. :)) If that is the case with Your Bible Unitarian Religion, would you like, have wish, that people here on this Forum, and other people, join You to be Unitarians? :)) Or, Unitarianism allows people to be separated in various Religions that hold similar teachings and as such are close to /part of Restoration Movement Family? If some JW want to be Biblical Unitarian, what he have to do? What teaching of JW he would need to left, to change? Does he have to be baptized again in your Church?

Balaam's Donkey did, and Stones can preach too, according to Bible. Well, you put very big importance on how much water have to be used for baptism of some individual. According to your reasoning sprinkling with water is big problem but to be minor candidate is just by Bible principles :))) You have great mind, but in some details you failed, again. :))

... well, your religion, also as WT Society, not follow Jesus' example about baptism of mature individuals (men and women). Your religion support baptism of under age kids, and, as to my knowledge, that is in opposition to Bible examples on this issue, in fact it is in opposition made by Jesus' example. It seems how your religion is deviate in this (and perhaps in some other subjects) as many others too. So, your religion is similar to Roman Catholic church and JW's in this theological "truth" :)) even without my mental gymnastic contribution on issue :))

maybe you will like this :)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ANkHGn3-NE

Destiny for this Overlapping Generation theory is same as to, for example, 1975 issue. After some period of time WT magazine and JWTV will explain, how some brothers (brotherhood worldwide), in their great zeal, misunderstand what has been published and were read between lines of text (and add own Drawings to Official Picture Drawings) :)))

which group you belong to Yes, thanks, again :)) But You did not tell me, again :)) which Restoration Group You belong to? Under what banner You are?

What Restorationist Christian Group among of all this on Wikipedia, you find is the best for You? If You would be asked to choose one as Your Religion, which one will be?

Does this mean how such JW person will/ have to preach what GB told him to preach contrary to his Understanding?? Because if so, his trumpet not giving clear sound to people around. In other words, such sound is clear only in the ears of GB but not clear in the ear of particular JW and "unbeliever". Also, in that circumstances, JW person who is not convinced in such doctrine, spreading "false truth" that is against his own conscience. Or, in some particular examples we have JW members who NOT Preaching (all sort of preaching, inside and outside congregation) that questionable doctrines and instructions. So much about Unity and Harmony of WT Society if members are not happy with some doctrines. :)) When it's not merely a personal opinion or idea but a clear unambiguous Bible teaching. Own views, personal opinions, private ideas, other people's opinions, unambiguous Bible teaching ..... In contrary to JW Private views are ..... Collective GB views, opinions, ideas that they marked as Bible teachings :)))

You mentioned many times in many various topics that JW are Restorationist. Is this religion? Or some sort of conglomeration of few religions? Do they all teaching "The Truth"? Do they have same or similar "truths"? Are they in some sort of competition among themselves? Do they existing in some sort of mutual understanding and respect? Do they have some "interfaith" dialog? i am curious :))

@James Thomas Rook Jr. perhaps Billy is double/triple agent :)))

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one. - John And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. - 1 John ... but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.......These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to life again: - Revelation In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {2} He was in the beginning with God. {3} All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. {4} In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. - John

As a group, we willingly submit ourselves to the direction given by the Governing Body and cooperate with the appointed elders in the congregations. In such ways, we demonstrate our acceptance of God’s way of ruling.- https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010047#h=22 This much about Cut of Own Thinking :))) Or you belong to rebellious individuals who never allow elders to tell you how and what to do ... in the name of God and Worldwide Unity ?? :)) ....... and this quote is not from 1900th but from 2010 :))

Sorry to interrupt this way of reasoning you display, because by such logic we can ask, why to talking about Bible and all that stories from old age, .... that were written much, much longer ago than it is 1900th ?? Speaking about past WT publications contents, shows people of today (JW and non JW) how shall look like the future for WT Society, and what people can expect from this Organization about teachings and internal rules.

Rank and file, ordinary people, Am Haarets reading Bible and Clergy say: We shall explain you what you reading and how you should to understand. I am reading WT article and you say: Let GB and me explain how you should to understand. :)))) Ohhhh man! :)))

I don't care for your problems with @JW Insider About Source, mark the text and with right mouse click Search Google for ....and you will find source. :)) https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402016046 “We Want to Go With You” The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom (Simplified)—2016 January

Because clearly they are not inspired prophets, they are spirit led prophets who never claim inspiration. Now you spin your breaks for you were leaning towards them being inspired... Do you by this answer suggesting, how in the same time here on Earth, beside not inspired prophets, existing also inspired prophets?? And please stop with this WTJWORG Mantra, how people are NOT INSPIRED but in the same time they are LED BY SPIRIT :))) This sort of logic is out of Mind. Teach me to do Your will, For You are my God; Let Your good Spirit lead me on level ground. - Psalm For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. - Romans But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. - Galatians How does WTJWORG stand is when faced with this meanings of LED? How looks LEVEL GROUND of WT Society? Or are they below ground level, and rowing to surface with constant error mandate instructions that members have to obey? What sort of sons they are if they making claims/spread doubt, under spirit led guidance; Do the other sheep need to know the names of all anointed ones still on earth today? No. Why not? Because it is not possible for anyone to know for sure that these ones will get their reward... Anointed Christians cannot be sure that they will receive their reward until Jehovah makes it clear to them that he has judged them as faithful... So anointed ones do not think that they are better than others. They know that Jehovah does not necessarily give anointed ones more holy spirit than he gives his other servants. And they do not feel that they can understand Bible truths more deeply than anyone else...They also know that when Jehovah anointed them, he did not let everyone else know about it. So an anointed person is not surprised if some do not believe right away that he has been anointed...Unlike Jehovah, the brothers who count the number of people eating the bread and drinking the wine at the Memorial do not know who truly is anointed. So the number includes those who think that they are anointed but are not. For example, some who used to eat the bread and drink the wine later stopped. Others may have mental or emotional problems and believe that they will rule with Christ in heaven. Clearly, we do not know exactly how many anointed ones are left on earth. - JWorg library source - They know that Jehovah does not necessarily give anointed ones more holy spirit than he gives his other servants... This Act of/when JHVH Giving His HS, to me means, giving inspiration. It is ACTION that God making to someone, This God's decision to Give NOT depends on some person who wish or want HS, who working in Betel or study Bible 12 hours a day or spend 90 hours in preaching with Tablet and magazines or who just sitting and waiting. Because even Donkey can be inspired and talk God's words. If God can make donkey to preach by act of HS Inspiration why is problem to accept possibility of Inspiration on human who are made on JHVH Image? Well, we have here (in WT Society) constant playing with terminology and lexis. We have people who showing their belongings to anointed class, who are, supposedly, appointed by God to be in Leading Position or Governing position as Body, but who denied even small possibility that God is powerful enough to put His Spirit on them and to be Source and Cause. In same time this people tell others to obey and listen to them as to God and Jesus because Organization (Corporation) is, imagine!!, led by this same Spirit, which they denied that have power over them. So we have here Donkey (WTJWORG Corporation) on whom God can put His Spirit, but can not put His Spirit on Balaam (Governing Body) :)))